Sony and Nintendo team up to bring you 1080p on the Wii (56K)

Sony and Nintendo team up to bring you 1080p on the Wii. Through the amazing upscaling power of the STR-DA5200ES and the beauty of the Bravia 1080p XBRs, you too can enjoy 1080p on the Nintendo Wii.

thats not ture 1080p its got the black lines around it. its exactly what the ps2/xbox look like on a HDTV

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Wii in 1080P

To the sheep,

I have a TV that can do that. But How do you upscale??nintenboy9128

Set your upscaler to whatever resolution you want to upscale to.

thats not ture 1080p its got the black lines around it. its exactly what the ps2/xbox look like on a HDTV

mattyomo99

It's not like that is new technology or anything. Upscalers that are capable of upscaling SD content to HD have been around way before the Wii. The problem is that to do a real good job at it, requires significant processing and that takes computing time, thus creating a lag, and thus making it not ideal for something that requires the preciseness of videogames. However, I'm sure these upscalers will keep on getting better and better, and by the end of this gen, there might some devices that do a great job of upscaling with non-noticeably lag time.Zerostatic0

With the Sony STR-DA5200ES, I don't notice any lag.

Doesnt that cost like a grand?

Oh well, I guess my Wii will have to look 10x worse on my 60 inch HDTV.

Doesnt that cost like a grand?

Oh well, I guess my Wii will have to look 10x worse on my 60 inch HDTV.

tman93

It's cheap.

[QUOTE="tman93"]

Doesnt that cost like a grand?

Oh well, I guess my Wii will have to look 10x worse on my 60 inch HDTV.

Blayrre_D

It's cheap.

[QUOTE="Blayrre_D"][QUOTE="tman93"]

Doesnt that cost like a grand?

Oh well, I guess my Wii will have to look 10x worse on my 60 inch HDTV.

tman93

It's cheap.

less than your 60'? ;)

$1499Blayrre_D

$1500 bucks to make a $250 console almost-somewhat-passably resemble its competitors on a superficial level? Ooh sign me up!

[QUOTE="Blayrre_D"]$1499D_Znuhtz

$1500 bucks to make a $250 console almost-somewhat-passably resemble its competitors on a superficial level? Ooh sign me up!

With this combination, there is no need to own an Xbox 360.

What you fail to understand is that the console (Wii) is not outputting a true 1920x1080 signal. The receiver is simply upscalling the image to 1920x1080. The image though, is not going to get any more detail since it is rendering at 640x480.

It's like making a 640x480 video 'full screen' on your computer. It is going to stretch the image to whatever resolution your computer is running, but it's not going to have the detail that watching a blu-ray movie in 1920x1080.

Plus, $1499 is a ripoff for something like this. Sony products are usually overpriced, but this is just silly. There are $300 DVD players that can upscale to 1080p.

So. Do Wii games actually look any good upscaled to 1080p HD?

So. Do Wii games actually look any good upscaled to 1080p HD?

freeload

Yes

What you fail to understand is that the console (Wii) is not outputting a true 1920x1080 signal. The receiver is simply upscalling the image to 1920x1080. The image though, is not going to get any more detail since it is rendering at 640x480.

It's like making a 640x480 video 'full screen' on your computer. It is going to stretch the image to whatever resolution your computer is running, but it's not going to have the detail that watching a blu-ray movie in 1920x1080.

Plus, $1499 is a ripoff for something like this. Sony products are usually overpriced, but this is just silly. There are $300 DVD players that can upscale to 1080p.

sts9kid

1) It says right on the site that it is upscaled.

2) There are no DVD players that can upscale an external source to 1080p.

[QUOTE="tman93"][QUOTE="Blayrre_D"][QUOTE="tman93"]

Doesnt that cost like a grand?

Oh well, I guess my Wii will have to look 10x worse on my 60 inch HDTV.

Ontain

It's cheap.

less than your 60'? ;)

He probably has an LCoS display. 60" isn't that expensive...

Just because it's blow up to fit a 1080p screen doesn't mean it's in high def. Rather than one pixel of a certain shade, you get 6 or something now to take it's place...

That's why DVD upscalers will never ever approach HD quality even though they look better than SD.

My TV can do that too, but it doesn't make any of the games look any better.

My TV can do that too, but it doesn't make any of the games look any better.

Shad0ki11

That would depend on the TV. Most TVs internal scalers are not as good as external ones.

Wait... I thought sheep didn't care about HD/Graphics.miss_kitt3n

You just don't get it, do you?

[QUOTE="miss_kitt3n"]Wait... I thought sheep didn't care about HD/Graphics.wapahala

You just don't get it, do you?

Wii has great graphics.

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

My TV can do that too, but it doesn't make any of the games look any better.

Blayrre_D

That would depend on the TV. Most TVs internal scalers are not as good as external ones.

It functions the same.

[QUOTE="Blayrre_D"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

My TV can do that too, but it doesn't make any of the games look any better.

Shad0ki11

That would depend on the TV. Most TVs internal scalers are not as good as external ones.

It functions the same.

Well, technically an American made car functions the same as a Japanese and European made cars.... just not as long.... or as well.... :D

Can upscalers really make something look that much better? :|

EDIT: Actually it doesn't even look that great...

It's not native 1080p, it's upscaled.The_Game21x

Didn't I already say that?

Anyone who think that will look half-decent has no idea whathe's talking about.

First of all, ALL HDTV televisions upscale incoming signals to their native resolutions (if the incoming resolutions differ from the TV's native res, that is,) secondly you're just allowing the receiver to upscale the image rather than the TV (and what does the receiver use, a Faroujda chip? A Reon?,) and thirdly it will STILL look terrible because the Wii is not outputting that resolution - thus the receiver (or whatever device is doing the upscaling) is just phonying the information in the picture, it's adding in information that does not exist in order to make it match the TV resolution (and THIS is why old consoles, and the Wii, do not look so hot on HDTV's.) The 360 and the PS3 output HD natively, the information is in the signal the console's output, that is why the games look so sharp and detailed.

Upscaling a 480i or 480p to a higher resolution won't, on any level, put the Wii on a visual par with its competitors.

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"][QUOTE="Blayrre_D"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

My TV can do that too, but it doesn't make any of the games look any better.

Blayrre_D

That would depend on the TV. Most TVs internal scalers are not as good as external ones.

It functions the same.

Well, technically an American made car functions the same as a Japanese and European made cars.... just not as long.... or as well.... :D

What does that have to do with anything?

[QUOTE="Blayrre_D"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"][QUOTE="Blayrre_D"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

My TV can do that too, but it doesn't make any of the games look any better.

Shad0ki11

That would depend on the TV. Most TVs internal scalers are not as good as external ones.

It functions the same.

Well, technically an American made car functions the same as a Japanese and European made cars.... just not as long.... or as well.... :D

What does that have to do with anything?

Nothing.

Upscaling the Wii's signal is just like upscaling a DVD's signal.

It does not make them HD native, it just adds information to their signals that is not there originally.

Anyone who think that will look half-decent has no idea whathe's talking about.

First of all, ALL HDTV televisions upscale incoming signals to their native resolutions (if the incoming resolutions differ from the TV's native res, that is,) secondly you're just allowing the receiver to upscale the image rather than the TV (and what does the receiver use, a Faroujda chip? A Reon?,) and thirdly it will STILL look terrible because the Wii is not outputting that resolution - thus the receiver (or whatever device is doing the upscaling) is just phonying the information in the picture, it's adding in information that does not exist in order to make it match the TV resolution (and THIS is why old consoles, and the Wii, do not look so hot on HDTV's.) The 360 and the PS3 output HD natively, the information is in the signal the console's output, that is why the games look so sharp and detailed.

Upscaling a 480i or 480p to a higher resolution won't, on any level, put the Wii on a visual par with its competitors.

Bill_McBlumpkin

[QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

Anyone who think that will look half-decent has no idea whathe's talking about.

First of all, ALL HDTV televisions upscale incoming signals to their native resolutions (if the incoming resolutions differ from the TV's native res, that is,) secondly you're just allowing the receiver to upscale the image rather than the TV (and what does the receiver use, a Faroujda chip? A Reon?,) and thirdly it will STILL look terrible because the Wii is not outputting that resolution - thus the receiver (or whatever device is doing the upscaling) is just phonying the information in the picture, it's adding in information that does not exist in order to make it match the TV resolution (and THIS is why old consoles, and the Wii, do not look so hot on HDTV's.) The 360 and the PS3 output HD natively, the information is in the signal the console's output, that is why the games look so sharp and detailed.

Upscaling a 480i or 480p to a higher resolution won't, on any level, put the Wii on a visual par with its competitors.

Blayrre_D

Ok?

yesBlayrre_D

no

[QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

Nothing.

Upscaling the Wii's signal is just like upscaling a DVD's signal.

It does not make them HD native, it just adds information to their signals that is not there originally.

Shad0ki11

So that means...?

It means that upscaling a Wii's signal will not, and cannot,put it on par with machines that output HD natively.

Think of it like the difference between DVD's and well mastered HDDVD's/BluRay discs when watched on an HDTV. You will never be able to get the DVD's picture to match its high def counterparts (even with upscaling with extremely expensive external chips, like the Reon for example) because the DVD simnply does not have the level of information in its signal than the HDDVD'/BDROMs do, in order for the DVD's players output signal to be increased to 720p/1080i/1080p a scaler chiphas to phony information into the picture (this is what upscaling is.)

And this is only resolution issues... another huge issue with the Wii is that even if it were able to output HD natively it still wouldn't even come close to its competitors (it lacks the hardware muscle.) This is why Gears of War looks leagues and leagues better than anything on the Wii even when it's played on a standard definition TV... there's far more to great graphics than simply high resolution.