Sony calls Returnal a "MEGA HIT" in studios bio on their website!

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#1  Edited By ZeroTheHero
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Can we please stop talking like this game did badly in sales? Sony knows how good it did since its only on their platform. If they say it's a mega hit than its a megaton hit and thats just how things go. Returnal it's a mega hit. Xbox and nintendo need a mega hit too we haven't heard anything on sales from those guys what mega hit besides animal crossing does nintendo have? Thats a casual trash game this is for hardcore system warriors Returnal.

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/corporate/playstation-studios/

Let's all just stop pretending this game wasn't a smashing success and everyone just can't wait to play it.

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Well, they aren't gonna write "Shit tanked hard". I don't really know how it sold, but lmao at falling for corporate double-speak.

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#3  Edited By Casey-Wegner
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They called Playstation All Stars a global phenom on the the same site 😂 Cows are desperate for sales.

What else would Sony say about their own game that they financed and published.

They won't release numbers because we've seen them, the game tanked in all regions.

This is nothing more than advertising. Grain of salt.

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#4 Pedro
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@zerothehero: You didn't buy the game and no-one stated this game was bad.

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#5 SolidGame_basic
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One of the best games I've played. Definitely broke my top 25.

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#6 deactivated-628e6669daebe
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Stop the counting we won by a lot! - The game. 🤣

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#7 lundy86_4
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Imagine quoting Sony fawning all over their studios.

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#8  Edited By Mesome713
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O wow , that’s embarrassing. Sold good, no we will not tell you how good.

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#9 Nike_Air
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I don't believe it's a sales mega hit or a bomb like the haters make it out to be. It probably did fine so far based on all the factors involved -

  • Development budget
  • Advertising budget
  • Genre
  • Difficulty
  • Price
  • New IP
  • Older woman protagonist
  • Userbase size
  • Some bugs at launch

I'm definitely going to give it a go when I get a PS5.

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#10 PSP107
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@Nike_Air: "Older woman protagonist"

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#11  Edited By Casey-Wegner
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@lundy86_4 said:

Imagine quoting Sony fawning all over their studios.

This thread proves Cows have lost their confidence. Trying to brag about product shilling. 🤣

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#12 Pedro
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@casey-wegner said:

This thread proves Cows have lost their confidence. Trying to brag about product shilling. 🤣

Says the guy that has been shilling for Nintendo near full time. 😂

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Unbelievable. This guy bets his account on this game, loses and then comes back as an alt - and lies about not knowing who Protuss was - to try and defend it.

Pathetic really.

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#14  Edited By JasonOfA36
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Of course they would. It's PR talk. Just face the fact that you lost your bet, Protoss.

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#15 Juub1990
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Sony usually loves to brag about sales. The fact that they’re not releasing numbers tells you what you need to know.

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#16 hardwenzen
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This game has shook the 28 people visiting SW.

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#17 Pedro
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@hardwenzen said:

This game has shook the 28 people visiting SW.

And it haven't shook you enough to buy it. 😂

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#18  Edited By clone01
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@ghost_of_phobos said:

Stop the counting we won by a lot! - The game. 🤣

lol. Protoss got his panties in a wad, as usual.

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#19 hardwenzen
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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

This game has shook the 28 people visiting SW.

And it haven't shook you enough to buy it. 😂

I am currently trying to buy it and hope the Japanese version works on my ps5. I know its not region locked, but still.

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#20 deactivated-618bc23e9b1c9
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Why are you so obsessed with this game, Protoss? Do you even own a PS5?

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#21  Edited By madrocketeer
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Yeah, gonna need some numbers to go with that claim. Without that, it's just patting yourself on the back in your own backyard.

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#22 hardwenzen
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Why are you so obsessed with this game, Protoss? Do you even own a PS5?

He is obsessed with good games, while you're obsessed with CoD and asscreed.

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#23 Pedro
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@hardwenzen said:

I am currently trying to buy it and hope the Japanese version works on my ps5. I know its not region locked, but still.

You don't like to spend money on "good games"?

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#24  Edited By hardwenzen
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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

I am currently trying to buy it and hope the Japanese version works on my ps5. I know its not region locked, but still.

You don't like to spend money on "good indie games"?

At $70? They can kindly f off😎😎😎

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Another PS5 AAAE banger that was well worth the $70. Only poor gamers continue to pretend otherwise.

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#26 lundy86_4
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Another PS5 AAAE banger that was well worth the $70. Only poor gamers continue to pretend otherwise.

TBH, only idiot TC's attempt to use this as ownage.

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#27 dabear
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@zerothehero: bro, it sold like shit. It runs at 1080p and crashes a lot.

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#28 Pedro
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@hardwenzen said:

At $70? They can kindly f off😎😎😎

I guess that makes you "poor" 😂

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@zerothehero: have you bought it?

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@sealionact said:

Unbelievable. This guy bets his account on this game, loses and then comes back as an alt - and lies about not knowing who Protuss was - to try and defend it.

Pathetic really.

I agree with him, and there is nothing pathetic about it. You know what's pathetic? Using AA batteries inside new hardware released late last year, but that's for another thread.

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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

At $70? They can kindly f off😎😎😎

I guess that makes you "poor" 😂

I have standards for my own systems. A principle i go by. An indie game will never be worth $70 or $60 for that matter.

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@hardwenzen said:
@sealionact said:

Unbelievable. This guy bets his account on this game, loses and then comes back as an alt - and lies about not knowing who Protuss was - to try and defend it.

Pathetic really.

I agree with him, and there is nothing pathetic about it. You know what's pathetic? Using AA batteries inside new hardware released late last year, but that's for another thread.

Or building in a touchpad few developers have or will ever utilize.

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@eoten said:
@hardwenzen said:
@sealionact said:

Unbelievable. This guy bets his account on this game, loses and then comes back as an alt - and lies about not knowing who Protuss was - to try and defend it.

Pathetic really.

I agree with him, and there is nothing pathetic about it. You know what's pathetic? Using AA batteries inside new hardware released late last year, but that's for another thread.

Or building in a touchpad few developers have or will ever utilize.

pfft you're telling this to the wrong person. I bitched about it the whole of last gen, and nothing has changed. STILL, you're gaining two easily accessible buttons, and that's better than using AA batteries.

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#34 Pedro
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I have standards for my own systems. A principle i go by. An indie game will never be worth $70 or $60 for that matter.

Firstly, it is not an indie game. And I also understand why you didn't want to pay $70. The only reason I have the game is because I was getting it for a steal of a deal with Ratchet. "I can get you Returnal if you want for the same price." and I was like "Hell yeah."

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@eoten said:
@hardwenzen said:
@sealionact said:

Unbelievable. This guy bets his account on this game, loses and then comes back as an alt - and lies about not knowing who Protuss was - to try and defend it.

Pathetic really.

I agree with him, and there is nothing pathetic about it. You know what's pathetic? Using AA batteries inside new hardware released late last year, but that's for another thread.

Or building in a touchpad few developers have or will ever utilize.

Sony isn't at fault for developers being too creatively bankrupt to use the innovative features and tools they provide them.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Sony isn't at fault for developers being too creatively bankrupt to use the innovative features and tools they provide them.

A shitty touchpad... Okay.

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#37 Pedro
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Sony isn't at fault for developers being too creatively bankrupt to use the innovative features and tools they provide them.

Sony developers using the touchpad as a big button is Sony's fault and as you said, Sony is too creatively bankrupt to use the innovative features and tools.

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#38 hardwenzen
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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

I have standards for my own systems. A principle i go by. An indie game will never be worth $70 or $60 for that matter.

Firstly, it is not an indie game. And I also understand why you didn't want to pay $70. The only reason I have the game is because I was getting it for a steal of a deal with Ratchet. "I can get you Returnal if you want for the same price." and I was like "Hell yeah."

You keep denying it, but it is an indie game. It will always be an indie game. If this was a Sony exclusive AAA, it would have its characteristics, which i don't need to tell you what they are, and that's simply is not the case. The standard hosemarque price for their games is like what? $20? I bet you their plan was to go with $40, since this one does have more production value compared to their previous titles, but to say that it rivals AAA production from Sony? Come on. This was supposed to be a $39.99 game that Sony made em charge $70, almost a double, and that's why they were surprised by the price.

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#39 Pedro
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You keep denying it, but it is an indie game. It will always be an indie game. If this was a Sony exclusive AAA, it would have its characteristics, which i don't need to tell you what they are, and that's simply is not the case. The standard hosemarque price for their games is like what? $20? I bet you their plan was to go with $40, since this one does have more production value compared to their previous titles, but to say that it rivals AAA production from Sony? Come on. This was supposed to be a $39.99 game that Sony made em charge $70, almost a double, and that's why they were surprised by the price.

You are in denial because the game is and will continue to not be an indie game. Yes! It is not like Sony standard formulaic third person game but a game that is funded and published by Sony is not an indie game.

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#40 hardwenzen
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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

You keep denying it, but it is an indie game. It will always be an indie game. If this was a Sony exclusive AAA, it would have its characteristics, which i don't need to tell you what they are, and that's simply is not the case. The standard hosemarque price for their games is like what? $20? I bet you their plan was to go with $40, since this one does have more production value compared to their previous titles, but to say that it rivals AAA production from Sony? Come on. This was supposed to be a $39.99 game that Sony made em charge $70, almost a double, and that's why they were surprised by the price.

You are in denial because the game is and will continue to not be an indie game. Yes! It is not like Sony standard formulaic third person game but a game that is funded and published by Sony is not an indie game.

Stop being in denial. Enough is enough. Its Hosemarque, they only indie. Time to wake up, Pedro.

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The game probably didn't even sell enough to even make a profit. It underperformed and everyone knows it. It wasn't a "flop" in terms of scores but it definitely isn't a some mega hit system seller. Cows are performing mental gymnastics with the attempts to put this game on some phantom pedestal.

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  • Is it a megahit with those that have played it? Sure.
  • Is it a megahit with professional critics? Yes.
  • Has it been enough of a megahit to be profitable? Of course.

Context is everything. Returnal is a megahit.

@hardwenzen said:
@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

You keep denying it, but it is an indie game. It will always be an indie game. If this was a Sony exclusive AAA, it would have its characteristics, which i don't need to tell you what they are, and that's simply is not the case. The standard hosemarque price for their games is like what? $20? I bet you their plan was to go with $40, since this one does have more production value compared to their previous titles, but to say that it rivals AAA production from Sony? Come on. This was supposed to be a $39.99 game that Sony made em charge $70, almost a double, and that's why they were surprised by the price.

You are in denial because the game is and will continue to not be an indie game. Yes! It is not like Sony standard formulaic third person game but a game that is funded and published by Sony is not an indie game.

Stop being in denial. Enough is enough. Its Hosemarque, they only indie. Time to wake up, Pedro.

It's kind of both, really. From what I gather Housemarque has been an independent developer for a while and by all accounts Returnal was developed in that same spirit.

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#43  Edited By mrbojangles25
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@nnoyinghusband said:

The game probably didn't even sell enough to even make a profit. It underperformed and everyone knows it. It wasn't a "flop" in terms of scores but it definitely isn't a some mega hit system seller. Cows are performing mental gymnastics with the attempts to put this game on some phantom pedestal.

You don't think it was profitable? Budget couldn't have been that high.

Have to wonder how many copies they'd have sold if they charged 39.99 though.

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#44 hardwenzen
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@mrbojangles25 said:
  • Is it a megahit with those that have played it? Sure.
  • Is it a megahit with professional critics? Yes.
  • Has it been enough of a megahit to be profitable? Of course.

Context is everything. Returnal is a megahit.

@hardwenzen said:
@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

You keep denying it, but it is an indie game. It will always be an indie game. If this was a Sony exclusive AAA, it would have its characteristics, which i don't need to tell you what they are, and that's simply is not the case. The standard hosemarque price for their games is like what? $20? I bet you their plan was to go with $40, since this one does have more production value compared to their previous titles, but to say that it rivals AAA production from Sony? Come on. This was supposed to be a $39.99 game that Sony made em charge $70, almost a double, and that's why they were surprised by the price.

You are in denial because the game is and will continue to not be an indie game. Yes! It is not like Sony standard formulaic third person game but a game that is funded and published by Sony is not an indie game.

Stop being in denial. Enough is enough. Its Hosemarque, they only indie. Time to wake up, Pedro.

It's kind of both, really. From what I gather Housemarque has been an independent developer for a while and by all accounts Returnal was developed in that same spirit.

Sony helping them on the project is the only reason why they were even able to reach this production level, and the reason i'd be ready to bet money that they were planning to sell the game at double of what their average games were going for.

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#45 NNoyingHusband
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@mrbojangles25 said:
@nnoyinghusband said:

The game probably didn't even sell enough to even make a profit. It underperformed and everyone knows it. It wasn't a "flop" in terms of scores but it definitely isn't a some mega hit system seller. Cows are performing mental gymnastics with the attempts to put this game on some phantom pedestal.

You don't think it was profitable? Budget couldn't have been that high.

Have to wonder how many copies they'd have sold if they charged 39.99 though.

I think the cost was too high. Would have sold a lot more if it was appropriately priced. People couldn't justify $70 for a solid 7/10 Sony first party. Should have been no more than $50.

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#46 LuxuryHeart
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@Pedro said:
@casey-wegner said:

This thread proves Cows have lost their confidence. Trying to brag about product shilling. 🤣

Says the guy that has been shilling for Nintendo near full time. 😂

Almost like it's called System Wars where people engage in console wars on the side of their favorite platform. But continue to act like you're above it, while sinking down to our level. :)

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#47  Edited By Eoten
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@eoten said:
@hardwenzen said:
@sealionact said:

Unbelievable. This guy bets his account on this game, loses and then comes back as an alt - and lies about not knowing who Protuss was - to try and defend it.

Pathetic really.

I agree with him, and there is nothing pathetic about it. You know what's pathetic? Using AA batteries inside new hardware released late last year, but that's for another thread.

Or building in a touchpad few developers have or will ever utilize.

Sony isn't at fault for developers being too creatively bankrupt to use the innovative features and tools they provide them.

But most Sony games don't even utilize it, do they? They even said if not for compatibility with the few PS4 titles that did use it, the feature wouldn't even be on the PS5 controller.

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#48 Pedro
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@hardwenzen said:

Stop being in denial. Enough is enough. Its Hosemarque, they only indie. Time to wake up, Pedro.

Answer this simple question. Was Returnal funded and published by Sony?

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#49 Pedro
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@luxuryheart said:

Almost like it's called System Wars where people engage in console wars on the side of their favorite platform. But continue to act like you're above it, while sinking down to our level. :)

I am still getting to you I see. 🤭

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#50 hardwenzen
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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

Stop being in denial. Enough is enough. Its Hosemarque, they only indie. Time to wake up, Pedro.

Answer this simple question. Was Returnal funded and published by Sony?

To create a $40 game, yes. No Sony AAA games are $40, even last gen.

Think of this for a second. Housemarque knew that their game is exclusive to the PS5, right? Yes, they better, Sony helped them on the project, right? They also knew MONTHS (maybe even a year plus) prior to the Returnal release about Sony's price increase ON THEIR EXCLUSIVE AAA/big titles. If Retrunal was just that, then explain to me why was Housemarque surprised by Sony selling their game for $70? That's right, you can't, and you will never be able to because it makes no sense. You want it or not, this is an indie game, a souped-up Indie game if you will.