Sony calls Returnal a "MEGA HIT" in studios bio on their website!

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#51 Pedro
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@hardwenzen said:

To create a $40 game, yes. No Sony AAA games are $40, even last gen.

Think of this for a second. Housemarque knew that their game is exclusive to the PS5, right? Yes, they better, Sony helped them on the project, right? They also knew MONTHS (maybe even a year plus) prior to the Returnal release about Sony's price increase ON THEIR EXCLUSIVE AAA/big titles. If Retrunal was just that, then explain to me why was Housemarque surprised by Sony selling their game for $70? That's right, you can't, and you will never be able to because it makes no sense. You want it or not, this is an indie game, a souped-up Indie game if you will.

It is a Yes or No question.

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#52 hardwenzen
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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

To create a $40 game, yes. No Sony AAA games are $40, even last gen.

Think of this for a second. Housemarque knew that their game is exclusive to the PS5, right? Yes, they better, Sony helped them on the project, right? They also knew MONTHS (maybe even a year plus) prior to the Returnal release about Sony's price increase ON THEIR EXCLUSIVE AAA/big titles. If Retrunal was just that, then explain to me why was Housemarque surprised by Sony selling their game for $70? That's right, you can't, and you will never be able to because it makes no sense. You want it or not, this is an indie game, a souped-up Indie game if you will.

It is a Yes or No question.

Read above.

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#53 Pedro
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@hardwenzen said:

Read above.

A simple yes or no will do.

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#54 hardwenzen
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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

Read above.

A simple yes or no will do.

Read above and understand the situation.

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#55  Edited By Pedro
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@hardwenzen said:

Read above and understand the situation.

There is no understanding the situation. Was Returnal funded and published by Sony?

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#56  Edited By hardwenzen
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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

Read above and understand the situation.

There is not understanding the situation. Was Returnal funded and published by Sony?

The answer was given in the paragraph. No matter how hard you try to spin it, you're wrong to think that Returnal is anything else but a souped up indie game. One that has melted the brains of many.

Don't try to yes or no me lol. You know you're wrong, so all you're waiting is for me to answer with a yes so you could quote me with something like "So its not an indie game, then. I thought so." or some other bs. Won't work😭

If housemarque didn't tweet about them being surprised by the price of their own game, i might've agreed, but as is, its pretty darn clear, and you're still refusing to accept it😎

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#57 Pedro
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The answer was given in the paragraph. No matter how hard you try to spin it, you're wrong to think that Returnal is anything else but a souped up indie game. One that has melted the brains of many.

Don't try to yes or no me lol. You know you're wrong, so all you're waiting is for me to answer with a yes so you could quote me with something like "So they're not an indie game, then. I thought so." or some other bs. Won't work😭

If housemarque didn't tweet about them being surprised by the price of their own game, i might've agreed, but as is, its pretty darn clear, and you're still refusing too see it😎

Glad that you agree that Returnal was funded and published by Sony. A Yes would have sufficed. 😎

Also, Insomniac was also surprised by Ratchet and Clank pricing.

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#58 hardwenzen
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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

The answer was given in the paragraph. No matter how hard you try to spin it, you're wrong to think that Returnal is anything else but a souped up indie game. One that has melted the brains of many.

Don't try to yes or no me lol. You know you're wrong, so all you're waiting is for me to answer with a yes so you could quote me with something like "So they're not an indie game, then. I thought so." or some other bs. Won't work😭

If housemarque didn't tweet about them being surprised by the price of their own game, i might've agreed, but as is, its pretty darn clear, and you're still refusing too see it😎

Glad that you agree that Returnal was funded and published by Sony. A Yes would have sufficed. 😎

Also, Insomniac was also surprised by Ratchet and Clank pricing.

Since when is Insomniac an indie dev? And when was it stated by Insomniac that they were surprised by the price?

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#59  Edited By Pedro
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Since when is Insomniac an indie dev? And when was it stated by Insomniac that they were surprised by the price?

I was told by the same person that gave me the discount to the two games. They found out the price when everyone else found out. Insomniac was an indie developer that developed first party games for Sony.

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#60 hardwenzen
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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

Since when is Insomniac an indie dev? And when was it stated by Insomniac that they were surprised by the price?

I was told by the same person that gave me the discount to the two games. They found out the price when everyone else found out. Insomniac was an indie developer that developed first party games for Sony.

You didn't answer my question. Which tells me its just a bunch of BS you've made up to have some weight to your already baseless argument.😎

A developer might be surprised by the price hike before the system is even released, but not when their game is coming out. It makes no sense. Time to wake up, Pedro.

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#61 Pedro
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You didn't answer my question. Which tells me its just a bunch of BS you've made up to have some weight to your already baseless argument.😎

A developer might be surprised by the price hike before the system is even released, but not when their game is coming out. It makes no sense. Time to wake up, Pedro.

I literally answered your question. Unlike you, who have been avoiding a simple yes or no question. 😎

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#62 hardwenzen
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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

You didn't answer my question. Which tells me its just a bunch of BS you've made up to have some weight to your already baseless argument.😎

A developer might be surprised by the price hike before the system is even released, but not when their game is coming out. It makes no sense. Time to wake up, Pedro.

I literally answered your question. Unlike you, who have been avoiding a simple yes or no question. 😎

You didn't answer anything. Your "i heard x saying it, guys" is not proof of anything. Housemarque on the other hand, its public knowledge that they have tweeted about the price hike.

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#63 Pedro
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@hardwenzen said:

You didn't answer anything. Your "i heard x saying it, guys" is not proof of anything. Housemarque on the other hand, its public knowledge that they have tweeted about the price hike.

As stated before "I literally answered your question. Unlike you, who have been avoiding a simple yes or no question. 😎"

You will have to pick a different strategy bud.

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#64 hardwenzen
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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

You didn't answer anything. Your "i heard x saying it, guys" is not proof of anything. Housemarque on the other hand, its public knowledge that they have tweeted about the price hike.

As stated before "I literally answered your question. Unlike you, who have been avoiding a simple yes or no question. 😎"

You will have to pick a different strategy bud.

Again, saying that some guy in the woods told you that Insomniac were surprised by the price hike, is not proof of anything lol.

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#65 Pedro
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@hardwenzen said:

Again, saying that some guy in the woods told you that Insomniac were surprised by the price hike, is not proof of anything lol.

You asked a question it was answered. Now, are you ready to answer "Was Returnal funded and published by Sony?"

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#66 Jendeh
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This discourse on this game has been strange to me. Some seem to have expected it to be a HZD or Uncharted sales wise. We don't know what the figures are, but I seriously doubt it is close to those. But that doesn't mean it wasn't a "mega hit" for them.

It's a roguelike and a difficult one at that. They had to know it wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea and likely had realistic expectations. And I wouldn't be surprised if Returnal had met those expectations.

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#67 ___gamemaster__
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i love the game. its the best ps5 game to date. its hard for me to enjoy another tps game after my run with returnal. definitely my personal GOTY.

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#68 StrongDeadlift
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Just gonna leave this here. The same page called Destruction All Stars a "Global Phenomenon", so uh.........yeah. This is nothing more than posturing.

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#69 Eoten
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Yup, the same people who read this and believed what Sony said about Rectal probably also believed they were going to be playing games at 4K120.

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Yup, the same people who read this and believed what Sony said about Rectal probably also believed they were going to be playing games at 4K120.

They probably also got a second job because Ken K told 'em to back in the day.

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#71 simple-facts
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Sony have spoken,cows are mooing that returnal was a huge success.

Reality is reTURDnal

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#72 sealionact
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@hardwenzen: There’s nothing pathetic about promising to leave a forum, breaking your promise, lying about your identity?

And you are again bringing AA batteries in an Xbox controller into a debate about whether or not a Sony game sold enough copies to be called a “huge success”?

Deflection, meet goalposts.

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#73 sealionact
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@NathanDrakeSwag: Like a touchpad that no developer supported last gen? What was the point in repeating a feature that nobody asked for, and nobody supports?

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#74 hardwenzen
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@hardwenzen: There’s nothing pathetic about promising to leave a forum, breaking your promise, lying about your identity?

And you are again bringing AA batteries in an Xbox controller into a debate about whether or not a Sony game sold enough copies to be called a “huge success”?

Deflection, meet goalposts.

Sir, you need to calm down. We're stuck with those batteries until the next generation (minimum), and there is nothing you or i can do about it, so let it go.

Secondly, he has never lied. Never. You keep misunderstanding him, and that's not his fault. If your mind was clear, and not full of aa batteries, you would've never misunderstood him to begin with. Think about it.

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@NathanDrakeSwag: Like a touchpad that no developer supported last gen? What was the point in repeating a feature that nobody asked for, and nobody supports?

Kinda like how Microsoft released another console that nobody supports, right?

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#76 deactivated-628e6669daebe
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Sony is in so much trouble that they're calling a sales flop a huge hit and saying that the failure that was Destruction Allstars was a global phenomenon.

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#77 sealionact
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@NathanDrakeSwag: That’s what you’re going with? Days after figures showing that it did better than ps5 in the biggest market?

At least put some effort into your answers.

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#78  Edited By sealionact
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@hardwenzen: Firstly, I’m calmer than an ms shareholder at the moment.

Secondly, yes he lied. When he opened his alt account, many people recognised his “unique” style of posting and called him out. He tried a pathetic “Protuss? I’m not Protuss. Who is he?”. So yes he lied.

Thirdly, nobody is stuck with these batteries….you have choices. You can power it through the cord, with AAs, with rechargeables or with a power pack. The Dualsense is however stuck with the one option that means you will not be able to finish a game in one sitting, and inevitably that rechargeable battery will fail to hold its charge.

Herein endeth the lesson.

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#79 hardwenzen
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@hardwenzen: Firstly, I’m calmer than an ms shareholder at the moment.

Secondly, yes he lied. When he opened his alt account, many people recognised his “unique” style of posting and called him out. He tried a pathetic “Protuss? I’m not Protuss. Who is he?”. So yes he lied.

Secondly, nobody is stuck with these batteries….you have choices. You can power it through the cord, with AAs, with rechargeables or with a power pack. The Dualsense is however stuck with the one option that means you will not be able to finish a game in one sitting, and inevitably that rechargeable battery will fail to hold its charge.

Herein endeth the lesson.

Nice wall, but i stopped reading at your first sentence. Calmer than an MS shareholder? Really? Literally nothing is coming to the system other than that google plane game that's available on pc for a year and infinite, a game that looks like it was built for the original Xbone in mind (still no release date mind you). So yea, if i was a shareholder, i'd be sweating right now. Your analogy was bad, real bad.

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@sealionact: I don't use AAs on my Xbox controllers, it's just an option I don't use. But I do appreciate how easily you can switch your battery once it starts to lose efficiency. I don't know how is it with the PS5 but with my PS4 and PS4 Pro it was basically pointless to use the controllers unplugged.

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#81 sealionact
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@hardwenzen: You think an ms shareholder looks at how many games a console has, or ms’s share price?

If you think what I wrote was a wall, I suspect it’s more likely you didn’t have any comebacks.

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#82 TheEroica  Moderator
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The game is a mega hit in terms of a new ip that received wonderful critical praise and gives Sony and fans something to build off of.

It is not a mega hit in terms of how TC is using it... "Sony says its a mega hit so it mustve sold crazy and we're all just not allowed to see those numbers... BTW why doesn't anyone else have a mega hit?"

Is just laughable....

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#83 hardwenzen
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@hardwenzen: You think an ms shareholder looks at how many games a console has, or ms’s share price?

If you think what I wrote was a wall, I suspect it’s more likely you didn’t have any comebacks.

You were not worth my comeback, little sealion.

And yes, shareholders look at how many games a console has, games is what puts the system on people's radar😖When its as empty as it has been for almost a year, its not surprising the PS5 is destroying it as much as it does. Its really simple.

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#84  Edited By hardwenzen
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BTW!

Can we all agree that Returnal has been MORE than a Mega Hit on SW (most likely other gaming forums as well)? Its the most talked game we've had in here in soooo damn long. The only thing that may surpass it is Halo Infinite if it gets a 7/10, but obviously for different reasons🤭

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#86 sealionact
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@hardwenzen: Lol. You obviously have no clue about shares, headsets and what constitutes a lie bud.

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#87 sealionact
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@ghost_of_phobos: Given a choice between a controller that uses AA batteries with other power options easily available or one that has a rechargeable battery, I’d go for the former every time.

You basically have to remember to charge the Dualsense after every session, or you’ll start the next with a cable dangling from your console.

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#88 hardwenzen
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@hardwenzen: Lol. You obviously have no clue about shares, headsets and what constitutes a lie bud.

Now you're just in denial, and i understand. Ever since you were dead wrong about the $99 headset, your life has changed on SW.

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#89 sealionact
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@hardwenzen: Come back when you can handle to read more than 3 paragraphs and manage to actually stay on topic.

Having something vaguely interesting to say would be helpful too.

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#90 hardwenzen
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@hardwenzen: Come back when you can handle to read more than 3 paragraphs and manage to actually stay on topic.

Having something vaguely interesting to say would be helpful too.

In such denial as of late. I don't know if its Xbox's fault or something else, but i wish you were more reasonable. Calling someone a liar is not cool, especially since he hasn't done anything wrong.

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#91  Edited By sealionact
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@hardwenzen: if you learned to read a little longer, you would understand why I called him a liar…and it has nothing to do with this post or AA batteries.

He lied, and was called out by many here….not just me.

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#92 hardwenzen
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@hardwenzen: if you learned to read a little longer, you would understand why I called him a liar…and it has nothing to do with this post or AA batteries.

He lied, and was called out by many here….not just me.

Don't know why you're bullying Protoss. He owns an Xbox like he has told I_P many times in the past

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#93 sealionact
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@hardwenzen: Nobody is bullying him. He left…remember? Unless of course he was lying about that.

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#94 hardwenzen
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@hardwenzen: Nobody is bullying him. He left…remember? Unless of course he was lying about that.

He said that he will delete his account, not leave permanently. Remember?

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#95 Kadin_Kai
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In light of the PS5 deficiency it has probably done pretty well.

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#96 sealionact
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@hardwenzen: Yes. Then he lied when he said his new account wasn’t a Protuss alt, and that he’d never heard about him.

Remember that?

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#97 hardwenzen
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@hardwenzen: Yes. Then he lied when he said his new account wasn’t a Protuss alt, and that he’d never heard about him.

Remember that?

I never saw that.

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#98 sealionact
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@hardwenzen: Now we’re getting somewhere. That’s why I called him a liar, which is not bullying and has nothing to do with Returnal, or how many copies it sold.

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#99 pmanden
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Pretty hypocritical if you ask me. Just because Sony claims it's a megahit doesn't mean it's a megahit.

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#100 hardwenzen
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@hardwenzen: Now we’re getting somewhere. That’s why I called him a liar, which is not bullying and has nothing to do with Returnal, or how many copies it sold.

We're not getting anywhere. You said "he lied when he said his new account wasn’t a Protuss alt", while his gs name was Protoss, not Protuss. Its obvious to me that you're misunderstanding him.