Sony CAN NOT and WILL not EVER win another console WAR.MS will win everytime now

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#1 Fuzzy_Munch
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Bottom line is Sony can not win this race EVER against MS.

MS is going to release a new system every 5 years. And the public has accepted the FACT that MS has GREAT games. and SPECTACULAR online. And I've been saying it for a longtime now that MS has a user base locked in with Live and should have 10million subscribed customers locked in by the end of 360. And it will ony continue to grow. And the developers know that MS is a software company. So they know they will always get the best and better development tools.

And MS has endless CASH PERIOD.

MS will always be ahead of Sony releasing game systems now. And they will swoop up the public majority user base everytime from Sony.

Just use logic you can clearly see it going this way.

And the public has seemed to say no prob we accept a new system from MS every 5 years and we want the best online and graphics every 5 years.

And when no more MGS games and FF ending also or defiantly going multiplat. Sony really can not win this system race ever again.

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just :roll: nothing else
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#3 tango90101
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agreed.

most gamblers know you will NEVER win against a player with limitless funds...

same here.

when the smoke clears and there is only one console (eventually), MS looks to be the forerunner. Why? because at it's core, gaming is all about software...

sony is a hardware company...

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#4 Fuzzy_Munch
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agreed.

most gamblers know you will NEVER win against a player with limitless funds...

same here.

when the smoke clears and there is only one console (eventually), MS looks to be the forerunner. Why? because at it's core, gaming is all about software...

sony is a hardware company...

tango90101

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#5 ss_49
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Wayyyyy too early to be making bold claims like that, brother...

Although, I'll concede that Sony is definitely not going to destroy the competition like last gen. The system sellers are too few and far between for that this time around. Come 2009 it'll be a close race though...oh well, gamers win regardless :).

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#6 TimeToPartyHard
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They probably will beat sony, but that doesn't mean they'll win. In fact, they're not winning right now. But their online is definitely what cements their user base now. But, what happens when everyone has online as good as xbl? They're gonna need something else to go on, and a mostly shooter based console, once it's online is no longer excellent, may have a harder time holding a user base if it's competition offers a wider selection, with equivalent or better online service.
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#7 Zhengi
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Wow, Fuzzy_Munch is the ultimate MS fanboy.

Also, it doesn't matter if MS has limitless funds. They are still accountable to stock holders and if the company starts losing too much money in their console division than the stock holders can ask for them to pull the plug. So MS can't just keep throwing money at the situation like you want them to.

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Bottom line is Sony can not win this race EVER against MS.

MS is going to release a new system every 5 years. And the public has accepted the FACT that MS has GREAT games. and SPECTACULAR online. And I've been saying it for a longtime now that MS has a user base locked in with Live and should have 10million subscribed customers locked in by the end of 360. And it will ony continue to grow. And the developers know that MS is a software company. So they know they will always get the best and better development tools.

And MS has endless CASH PERIOD.

MS will always be ahead of Sony releasing game systems now. And they will swoop up the public majority user base everytime from Sony.

Just use logic you can clearly see it going this way.

And the public has seemed to say no prob we accept a new system from MS every 5 years and we want the best online and graphics every 5 years.

And when no more MGS games and FF ending also or defiantly going multiplat. Sony really can not win this system race ever again.

Fuzzy_Munch
people said that about nintendo now look what's happening
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#9 Paddy345
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Typical lemming fanboy, PS is the biggest franchise in the world still while MS is in it's shadow, now go away and cry
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Another great thread by Fuzzy_Munch.:)
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#11 LosDaddie
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eh....I expect the PS3 to eventually out-sell the x360.....sometime around Q4 2009.

However, this gen is where Sony's dominance in the industry ends.

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#12 cleotis_max
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Whoa, whats this?

"Microsoft has said that it hopes the shelf life for its Xbox 360 will be longer than five years - the lifespan traditionally associated with a home console. "

Source: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=30358

No soup for you.

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Bottom line is Sony can not win this race EVER against MS.

MS is going to release a new system every 5 years. And the public has accepted the FACT that MS has GREAT games. and SPECTACULAR online.

Fuzzy_Munch

Yeah, it only took them six years and two consoles to do it, and fact =/= opinion.

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#14 OhhSnap50893
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You're funny. MS isn't even winning this gen. :lol:
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They probably will beat sony, but that doesn't mean they'll win. In fact, they're not winning right now. But their online is definitely what cements their user base now. But, what happens when everyone has online as good as xbl? They're gonna need something else to go on, and a mostly shooter based console, once it's online is no longer excellent, may have a harder time holding a user base if it's competition offers a wider selection, with equivalent or better online service.TimeToPartyHard

Sony online will continue to improove.

But they will never be better then Live becuase Sony will never devote the $$$ and time to this why becuase MS is a computer giant and software giant they are the best.

Sony is a hardware company and really can not devote reasources to specialize in this.

Sony really should of charge for the online and made it better with PS3 because they would be locking in loyal payed customers that will be onboard for the next system.

I guarantee you just about all who are Live users will be first day buyers of Xbox 720. BAM user base right there owning Sony out of the gate once again.

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Typical lemming fanboy, PS is the biggest franchise in the world still while MS is in it's shadow, now go away and cryPaddy345

wow..even bigger than coca cola?

fanboys..:lol:

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#17 KungfuKitten
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Xbox series isn't exactly selling well... so i don't see how the public has accepted anything from M$ :|
They may have cash but they can't just buy anything.
What good did their software development do? Just wondering.

Anyway wouldn't it be bad for the industry if they do get on top and be immortal?

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#18 limonah
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And when no more MGS games and FF ending also or defiantly going multiplat. Sony really can not win this system race ever again.

Fuzzy_Munch

lol..........

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So this is the theme for today? :roll: At least you are done with your ME rants.
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#20 tango90101
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Wow, Fuzzy_Munch is the ultimate MS fanboy.

Also, it doesn't matter if MS has limitless funds. They are still accountable to stock holders and if the company starts losing too much money in their console division than the stock holders can ask for them to pull the plug. So MS can't just keep throwing money at the situation like you want them to.

Zhengi

actually most stock holders are smart enought to see the longterm strategy ms is taking....

...it's funny tho... sony is around 2 billion in losses with the ps3 and expecting more losses for next year, but somehow sony's stockholders don't have a problem...right? :roll:

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[QUOTE="Paddy345"]Typical lemming fanboy, PS is the biggest franchise in the world still while MS is in it's shadow, now go away and crytango90101

wow..even bigger than coca cola?

fanboys..:lol:

I meant game console, 360 isn't universal, it only sells great in NA

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You're funny. MS isn't even winning this gen. :lol:OhhSnap50893

The x360 is out-selling the PS3 though.:)

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[QUOTE="tango90101"]

agreed.

most gamblers know you will NEVER win against a player with limitless funds...

same here.

when the smoke clears and there is only one console (eventually), MS looks to be the forerunner. Why? because at it's core, gaming is all about software...

sony is a hardware company...

Fuzzy_Munch

Yes another wise person i see in SW glad to see we have a few atleast

Hahah!!! You are the same guy who said Redskins will beat the Patriots. Am I suppose to believe a word from you??!?!

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#24 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="Paddy345"]Typical lemming fanboy, PS is the biggest franchise in the world still while MS is in it's shadow, now go away and cryPaddy345

wow..even bigger than coca cola?

fanboys..:lol:

I meant game console, 360 isn't universal, it only sells great in NA

and Europe.

The x360 is out-selling the PS3 there.

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If Sony keeps trying to impose their formats onto people just so that they can make money for themselves in the long run, I will never accept a Playstation.
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#26 Paddy345
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Xbox enteredthe gaming console market as losers and will stay that way, typical lemmings, i can't believe you actually believe threads like this, your all kids then

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[QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="Paddy345"]Typical lemming fanboy, PS is the biggest franchise in the world still while MS is in it's shadow, now go away and cryPaddy345

wow..even bigger than coca cola?

fanboys..:lol:

I meant game console, 360 isn't universal, it only sells great in NA

oh, in that case you're still wrong.. nintendo would be the biggest gaming franchise...

they've been out longer in the console industry and have made the name Nintendo a familiar name in playing cards for about, what, a hundred years or so...

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[QUOTE="OhhSnap50893"]You're funny. MS isn't even winning this gen. :lol:LosDaddie

The x360 is out-selling the PS3 though.:)

And....Wii is outselling the 360.

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#29 tango90101
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Xbox enteredthe gaming console market as losers and will stay that way, typical lemmings, i can't believe you actually believe threads like this, your all kids then

Paddy345

second place last gen isn't a loser...

of course if you say it IS, then what does that say about the ps3 THIS gen..? ;)

face it; you got nothin....

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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="OhhSnap50893"]You're funny. MS isn't even winning this gen. :lol:Shadow2k6

The x360 is out-selling the PS3 though.:)

And....Wii is outsling the 360.

Yup, and MS' strategy is to end Sony's dominance. That's why P.Moore started the "Wii60" movement.

The plan is working great!:D

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#31 Paddy345
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[QUOTE="Paddy345"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="Paddy345"]Typical lemming fanboy, PS is the biggest franchise in the world still while MS is in it's shadow, now go away and cryLosDaddie

wow..even bigger than coca cola?

fanboys..:lol:

I meant game console, 360 isn't universal, it only sells great in NA

and Europe.

The x360 is out-selling the PS3 there.

In weekly sales ps3 outsells 360 and analysists expect it to outsell 360 in europe by march 08

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#32 Fuzzy_Munch
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[QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

agreed.

most gamblers know you will NEVER win against a player with limitless funds...

same here.

when the smoke clears and there is only one console (eventually), MS looks to be the forerunner. Why? because at it's core, gaming is all about software...

sony is a hardware company...

dkhw

Yes another wise person i see in SW glad to see we have a few atleast

Hahah!!! You are the same guy who said Redskins will beat the Patriots. Am I suppose to believe a word from you??!?!

Easy now disastrous things started happen the Skins. Before that game the injury's have been crazy. And now my man Sean Taylor has passed so tragic. He was are best player on D and most think he was the best safety in the NFL. And most could argue he was going to go down as an alltime great. I'm truly sad about his death. It's a tragedy. We will miss you Sean.

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[QUOTE="Paddy345"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="Paddy345"]Typical lemming fanboy, PS is the biggest franchise in the worldstill while MS is in it's shadow, now go away and cryLosDaddie

wow..even bigger than coca cola?

fanboys..:lol:

I meant game console, 360 isn't universal, it only sells great in NA

and Europe.

The x360 is out-selling the PS3 there.

Hmmm... You say there whereas I would say here...

Numbers?

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#34 Paddy345
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[QUOTE="Paddy345"]

Xbox enteredthe gaming console market as losers and will stay that way, typical lemmings, i can't believe you actually believe threads like this, your all kids then

tango90101

second place last gen isn't a loser...

of course if you say it IS, then what does that say about the ps3 THIS gen..? ;)

face it; you got nothin....

OH MY GOD!!! will you please use sense, last gen is over and this gen for most people hasen't even begun, ps3 has only been out half a year here, wait till this generation ends before you make judgements like that

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[QUOTE="dkhw"][QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

agreed.

most gamblers know you will NEVER win against a player with limitless funds...

same here.

when the smoke clears and there is only one console (eventually), MS looks to be the forerunner. Why? because at it's core, gaming is all about software...

sony is a hardware company...

Fuzzy_Munch

Yes another wise person i see in SW glad to see we have a few atleast

Hahah!!! You are the same guy who said Redskins will beat the Patriots. Am I suppose to believe a word from you??!?!

Easy now disastrous things started happen the Skins. Before that game the injury's have been crazy. And now my man Sean Taylor has passed so tragic. He was are best player on D and most think he was the best safety in the NFL. And most could argue he was going to go down as an alltime great. I'm truly sad about his death. It's a tragedy. We will miss you Sean.

i'm a colts fan, but my heart goes out to his family and fans... truly tragic and needless death..

imo, he could have been a hall of famer eventually...

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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Paddy345"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="Paddy345"]Typical lemming fanboy, PS is the biggest franchise in the world still while MS is in it's shadow, now go away and cryPaddy345

wow..even bigger than coca cola?

fanboys..:lol:

I meant game console, 360 isn't universal, it only sells great in NA

and Europe.

The x360 is out-selling the PS3 there.

In weekly sales ps3 outsells 360 and analysists expect it to outsell 360 in europe by march 08

Have any proof other than VGC?

And I'd love a link to this analysts predictions.

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#37 tango90101
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[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Paddy345"]

Xbox enteredthe gaming console market as losers and will stay that way, typical lemmings, i can't believe you actually believe threads like this, your all kids then

Paddy345

second place last gen isn't a loser...

of course if you say it IS, then what does that say about the ps3 THIS gen..? ;)

face it; you got nothin....

OH MY GOD!!! will you please use sense, last gen is over and this gen for most people hasen't even begun, ps3 has only been out half a year here, wait till this generation ends before you make judgements like that

got it! "just wait".. now...where have we heard that before? oh right... 2005, 2006, and 2007...:lol:

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Xbox enteredthe gaming console market as losers and will stay that way, typical lemmings, i can't believe you actually believe threads like this, your all kids then

Paddy345

Not sure what you mean with this comment. If you enter a race and you don't enter as #1 (especially tough if the race has already started), you can't win? That makes no sense and contains no logic. I am not predicting a winner here, just that your post is pointless.

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#39 Fuzzy_Munch
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[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Paddy345"]

Xbox enteredthe gaming console market as losers and will stay that way, typical lemmings, i can't believe you actually believe threads like this, your all kids then

Paddy345

second place last gen isn't a loser...

of course if you say it IS, then what does that say about the ps3 THIS gen..? ;)

face it; you got nothin....

OH MY GOD!!! will you please use sense, last gen is over and this gen for most people hasen't even begun, ps3 has only been out half a year here, wait till this generation ends before you make judgements like that

Half a year:roll:

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#40 _Fabrick_
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There's one thing i do agree on, and that is we will see a new Microsoft console by 2011. Whether that is a good or bad thing i don't know.
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I hope Barclays makes a console someday, they have really deep pockets :).

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2007/18/biz_07forbes2000_The-Global-2000_Assets.html

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[QUOTE="Shadow2k6"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="OhhSnap50893"]You're funny. MS isn't even winning this gen. :lol:LosDaddie

The x360 is out-selling the PS3 though.:)

And....Wii is outsling the 360.

Yup, and MS' strategy is to end Sony's dominance. That's why P.Moore started the "Wii60" movement.

The plan is working great!:D

Yup, they rely on two consoles to beat one.

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#43 tango90101
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Shadow2k6"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="OhhSnap50893"]You're funny. MS isn't even winning this gen. :lol:ball_of_air

The x360 is out-selling the PS3 though.:)

And....Wii is outsling the 360.

Yup, and MS' strategy is to end Sony's dominance. That's why P.Moore started the "Wii60" movement.

The plan is working great!:D

Yup, they rely on two consoles to beat one.

and it's working tremendously...:)

smart move...

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[QUOTE="dkhw"][QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

agreed.

most gamblers know you will NEVER win against a player with limitless funds...

same here.

when the smoke clears and there is only one console (eventually), MS looks to be the forerunner. Why? because at it's core, gaming is all about software...

sony is a hardware company...

Fuzzy_Munch

Yes another wise person i see in SW glad to see we have a few atleast

Hahah!!! You are the same guy who said Redskins will beat the Patriots. Am I suppose to believe a word from you??!?!

Easy now disastrous things started happen the Skins. Before that game the injury's have been crazy. And now my man Sean Taylor has passed so tragic. He was are best player on D and most think he was the best safety in the NFL. And most could argue he was going to go down as an alltime great. I'm truly sad about his death. It's a tragedy. We will miss you Sean.

Sorry about S. Taylor, but he was NOT an all time great. One of the best athletes in the NFL, no doubt! Do you know the year he made the pro bowl, he lead the league in missed tackles? Great athlete but took way too many gambles to be given the accolades you are given him. Having said that, it is a horrible tragedy and he will be missed. RIP S. Taylor.

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#45 Paddy345
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[QUOTE="Paddy345"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Paddy345"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="Paddy345"]Typical lemming fanboy, PS is the biggest franchise in the world still while MS is in it's shadow, now go away and cryLosDaddie

wow..even bigger than coca cola?

fanboys..:lol:

I meant game console, 360 isn't universal, it only sells great in NA

and Europe.

The x360 is out-selling the PS3 there.

In weekly sales ps3 outsells 360 and analysists expect it to outsell 360 in europe by march 08

Have any proof other than VGC?

And I'd love a link to this analysts predictions.

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/ps3_outsold_360_in_europe_all_year_news_378_tsa.aspx

I'll try and get the other link asap

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#46 Paddy345
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[QUOTE="Paddy345"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Paddy345"]

Xbox enteredthe gaming console market as losers and will stay that way, typical lemmings, i can't believe you actually believe threads like this, your all kids then

Fuzzy_Munch

second place last gen isn't a loser...

of course if you say it IS, then what does that say about the ps3 THIS gen..? ;)

face it; you got nothin....

OH MY GOD!!! will you please use sense, last gen is over and this gen for most people hasen't even begun, ps3 has only been out half a year here, wait till this generation ends before you make judgements like that

Half a year:roll:

Yea since march and been out worldwide since may

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Wow, Fuzzy_Munch is the ultimate MS fanboy.

Also, it doesn't matter if MS has limitless funds. They are still accountable to stock holders and if the company starts losing too much money in their console division than the stock holders can ask for them to pull the plug. So MS can't just keep throwing money at the situation like you want them to.

tango90101

actually most stock holders are smart enought to see the longterm strategy ms is taking....

...it's funny tho... sony is around 2 billion in losses with the ps3 and expecting more losses for next year, but somehow sony's stockholders don't have a problem...right? :roll:

MS is $6 billion in the hole right now with their Xbox division. Do you think the stock holders will be happy if MS spends another $6 billion?

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Yup, they rely on two consoles to beat one.

tango90101

and it's working tremendously...:)

smart move...

QFT!

Brilliant strategy indeed.

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http://www.thesixthaxis.com/ps3_outsold_360_in_europe_all_year_news_378_tsa.aspx

I'll try and get the other link asap

Paddy345

You use a PS3 Fanboy site?

:lol:

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#50 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]

Wow, Fuzzy_Munch is the ultimate MS fanboy.

Also, it doesn't matter if MS has limitless funds. They are still accountable to stock holders and if the company starts losing too much money in their console division than the stock holders can ask for them to pull the plug. So MS can't just keep throwing money at the situation like you want them to.

Zhengi

actually most stock holders are smart enought to see the longterm strategy ms is taking....

...it's funny tho... sony is around 2 billion in losses with the ps3 and expecting more losses for next year, but somehow sony's stockholders don't have a problem...right? :roll:

MS is $6 billion in the hole right now with their Xbox division. Do you think the stock holders will be happy if MS spends another $6 billion?

Yup, because MS (as a whole) is still raking in profits.