Sony clarifies: No USED GAMES on PS4 is up to the publishers... not us

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"] how could it play used games like he said if it had a one shot code, doesnt make sense.TintedEyes

If you buy the game used, you then have to purchase a key code to unlock the game (single player and multi player) similar to current online passes or PC CD-keys

which is why they are leaving it up to the descretion of the publisher.  you can still play used games, you just gotta pay the publisher

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

If you buy the game used, you then have to purchase a key code to unlock the game (single player and multi player) similar to current online passes or PC CD-keys

lostrib

which is why they are leaving it up to the descretion of the publisher.  you can still play used games, you just gotta pay the publisher

I said it before (when the whole EA pass started in 09), I have no issue with the blocking of used games. All consoles should block used games.Nengo_Flow

[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]I said it before (when the whole EA pass started in 09), I have no issue with the blocking of used games. All consoles should block used games.Mr_Cumberdale

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]that would be blocking they said they wouldnt do that

TintedEyes

which is why they are leaving it up to the descretion of the publisher.  you can still play used games, you just gotta pay the publisher

They said that it was up to the publisher if used games would require an activation code, does not stipulate multiplayer only

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

which is why they are leaving it up to the descretion of the publisher.  you can still play used games, you just gotta pay the publisher

lostrib

They said that it was up to the publisher if used games would require an activation code, does not stipulate multiplayer only

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]that would be blocking they said they wouldnt do that

TintedEyes

which is why they are leaving it up to the descretion of the publisher.  you can still play used games, you just gotta pay the publisher

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]but they didnt say the pub could block used games

TintedEyes

They said that it was up to the publisher if used games would require an activation code, does not stipulate multiplayer only

that's not the same thing as saying it wont happen.  Publishers do not like used games

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

which is why they are leaving it up to the descretion of the publisher.  you can still play used games, you just gotta pay the publisher

delta3074

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

They said that it was up to the publisher if used games would require an activation code, does not stipulate multiplayer only

lostrib

that's not the same thing as saying it wont happen.  Publishers do not like used games

well there goes consoles gamings biggest advantage.

osirisx3

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"]but they didnt say the pub could block used games

TintedEyes

Many already have online passes for multiplayer, heck i think even sony does it.  It's just another step.  They already lockdown DLC that is already on the disc, could easily expand that to the whole game

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]It's not up to SONY what publishers do with there games, are you missing the point? you think they can just tell publishers what to do?lostrib

Many already have online passes for multiplayer, heck i think even sony does it.  It's just another step.  They already lockdown DLC that is already on the disc, could easily expand that to the whole game

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"]but they didnt say the pub could block used games

TintedEyes

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]and what publishers are blocking used games with an activation code?

TintedEyes

Many already have online passes for multiplayer, heck i think even sony does it.  It's just another step.  They already lockdown DLC that is already on the disc, could easily expand that to the whole game

Yeah, that's not the same thing as saying they wont.  Companies are not benevolent, if they think they can get away with it, they will try. Like ubisoft and always online DRM

As long as games go on sale like they do on steam I won't have a problem with it. Ether way I'm buying a game a year after it comes out for half the price.DaBrainz

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]It's not up to SONY what publishers do with there games, are you missing the point? you think they can just tell publishers what to do?delta3074

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]That has always been the case, even on PS3, it's not going to happen but publishers could require an online activation for single player on PS3 if they wanted, taking the online pass to the next level essentially.Sali217

Technically they could... and then wait for the first sale doctrine lawsuits to flow from Gamestop, Bestbuy, Amazon, etc.

They won't be able to get away with that in Europe...that kind of practice is illegal there, & 3rd party publishers can be sued for trying to pull that.

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

Many already have online passes for multiplayer, heck i think even sony does it.  It's just another step.  They already lockdown DLC that is already on the disc, could easily expand that to the whole game

lostrib

Yeah, that's not the same thing as saying they wont.  Companies are not benevolent, if they think they can get away with it, they will try. Like ubisoft and always online DRM

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"]and what publishers are blocking used games with an activation code?

TintedEyes

you are dense.  companies are not your friend

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]and that's what i think they will keep, so they can make money of used games, no indication they will block it completely.

TintedEyes

Yeah, that's not the same thing as saying they wont.  Companies are not benevolent, if they think they can get away with it, they will try. Like ubisoft and always online DRM

the point was that they still tried.  The indication that publishers might try it, is that they actually use online passes in the first place!  Why stop at multiplayer? you dunce

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[QUOTE="delta3074"]Dude, why are you deluding yourself into thinking this will never happen, it will, do you think they have been moaning and crying about Preowned games 'just for lulz' , Brace yourself because it's coming, whether you, me or anybody else likes it or not, SONY has moved from 'it won't block used games' to ' we will leave it up to the publishers' thats NOT a good sign, something has changed and it looks like SONY is already laying the Blame on publishers for something that they already know is going to happen, hopefully i am wrong, i hope to god i am wrong but this looks Negative, Not positive to me.lostrib

you are dense.  companies are not your friend

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

Yeah, that's not the same thing as saying they wont.  Companies are not benevolent, if they think they can get away with it, they will try. Like ubisoft and always online DRM

lostrib

the point was that they still tried.  The indication that publishers might try it, is that they actually use online passes in the first place!  Why stop at multiplayer? you dunce

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]and what publishers are blocking used games with an activation code?

TintedEyes

Many already have online passes for multiplayer, heck i think even sony does it.  It's just another step.  They already lockdown DLC that is already on the disc, could easily expand that to the whole game

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]they might try it, but there is no indication they will. ubisoft gave up on always online anyway i think

TintedEyes

the point was that they still tried.  The indication that publishers might try it, is that they actually use online passes in the first place!  Why stop at multiplayer? you dunce

the indication is that they a)dislike used games and b) already use online passes to lockdown multiplayer.  

Sony still cares about you guys, see? That's all you need really. Neon_Noir

Sony still cares about you guys, see? That's all you need really. Neon_Noir

Sony loves and cares about us...It's the publishers who don't.

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

Many already have online passes for multiplayer, heck i think even sony does it.  It's just another step.  They already lockdown DLC that is already on the disc, could easily expand that to the whole game

delta3074

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

the point was that they still tried.  The indication that publishers might try it, is that they actually use online passes in the first place!  Why stop at multiplayer? you dunce

lostrib

the indication is that they a)dislike used games and b) already use online passes to lockdown multiplayer.  

[QUOTE="Neon_Noir"]Sony still cares about you guys, see? That's all you need really. Speedzilla

Sony loves and cares about us...It's the publishers who don't.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]deluding? i'm using what the companies and rumors are saying, no indication of pubs doing it is a fact, activation codes already implemented is a faact, sony saying they wont block it is a fact.

TintedEyes

you are dense.  companies are not your friend

[QUOTE="Speedzilla"]

[QUOTE="Neon_Noir"]Sony still cares about you guys, see? That's all you need really. Neon_Noir

Sony loves and cares about us...It's the publishers who don't.

[QUOTE="Speedzilla"]

[QUOTE="Neon_Noir"]Sony still cares about you guys, see? That's all you need really. Neon_Noir

Sony loves and cares about us...It's the publishers who don't.

M$ would stab me in the back the first chance they got.

Sony, on the other hand, treats me like I'm apart of their family...the Playstation family...one big happy family.

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

you are dense.  companies are not your friend

delta3074

Oh god SONY are such lying douchebags Neon_Noir

Sony didn't lie, little lemming. It's up to the publishers, not Sony.

LONG LIVE SONY!

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"]i know that, still facts though

TintedEyes

[QUOTE="Neon_Noir"]Oh god SONY are such lying douchebags Speedzilla

Sony didn't lie, little lemming. It's up to the publishers, not Sony.

LONG LIVE SONY!

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[QUOTE="delta3074"]it's not up to them, if publishers want to put one shot codes on there games they will and there is nothing SONY can do about it Except say they won't have the game on there console, they may as well shoot themselves in the head if they take that stance, this is what you fail to grasp, SONY can say the PS3 will not block used games till they are Blue in the Face, it don't mean dickie becasue it ain't there call to make, it's the game publishers shareholders. If publishers wnat to block pre-owned games they will and there is nothing SONY, Microsoft or anybody else can do about itdelta3074

[QUOTE="Speedzilla"]

[QUOTE="Neon_Noir"]Oh god SONY are such lying douchebags Neon_Noir

Sony didn't lie, little lemming. It's up to the publishers, not Sony.

LONG LIVE SONY!

but they wouldn't be blocking Pre-owned games, it would be the publisher, you can't Blame SONY for something that is out of there handsdelta3074

[QUOTE="Speedzilla"]

[QUOTE="Neon_Noir"]Oh god SONY are such lying douchebags Neon_Noir

Sony didn't lie, little lemming. It's up to the publishers, not Sony.

LONG LIVE SONY!

Yup, they're not blocking used games. Thank you Sony.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"]but there is no indication pubs are doing that

TintedEyes

[QUOTE="delta3074"]but they wouldn't be blocking Pre-owned games, it would be the publisher, you can't Blame SONY for something that is out of there handsNeon_Noir

[QUOTE="Neon_Noir"][QUOTE="delta3074"]but they wouldn't be blocking Pre-owned games, it would be the publisher, you can't Blame SONY for something that is out of there handsdelta3074

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[QUOTE="delta3074"]So you don't see publishers moaning about pre-owned games, the fact that it's costing them money and that they REALLY don't like them and would love to do something about them , as an indication that they would do this? Really? I think to most people it's a Pretty f***ing big indication that Publishers will, at some point, Block pre-owned gamesdelta3074

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"]some already make money from online passes, and some like ea like used games.

TintedEyes