Sony comes back on their word: Horizon can't be upgraded if you own the standard version on PS4

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#51 SOedipus
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Meh, it'd be dumb to get the PS4 version in the first place.

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#52 LetsHaveFun
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@R4gn4r0k said:

Oops

If you have the digital version of these games on PS4 you'll get a free upgrade to the PS5 version. If you have a disc version you'll get a free upgrade if you own the PS5 console with a disc drive.

-Sony in 2020

i don't get it. these are all prices for first time purchases.

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#53  Edited By sealionact
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@letshavefun said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

Oops

If you have the digital version of these games on PS4 you'll get a free upgrade to the PS5 version. If you have a disc version you'll get a free upgrade if you own the PS5 console with a disc drive.

-Sony in 2020

i don't get it. these are all prices for first time purchases.

That’s because they’re the only options. If you can’t find a ps5 and buy the PS4 version of the game, there’s no way to upgrade to the ps5 version later - apart from buying the game again.

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#54 sealionact
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@SOedipus said:

Meh, it'd be dumb to get the PS4 version in the first place.

Unless you have a PS4?

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#55  Edited By Antwan3K
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I pretty much thought "Smart Delivery" was just some fancy marketing/branding since I logically assumed Sony would essentially be doing the same thing with the PS5..

boy, was I wrong..

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#56 R4gn4r0k
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@SOedipus said:

Meh, it'd be dumb to get the PS4 version in the first place.

But more people own a PS4 at the moment than there are people who were able to get a PS5.

Meaning they'll end up with a PS4 version, even if they might upgrade down the line.

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#57 lundy86_4
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NGL, MS crushed Smart Delivery. Sony's efforts are poor on this front. Hopefully they get their messaging on point.

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#58 Pedro
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The "big ballers" has no comments. 😂

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#59 VFighter
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It says right in the first post the upgrade is free...what part of this circle jerk am I missing?

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#60 lundy86_4
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@vfighter said:

It says right in the first post the upgrade is free...what part of this circle jerk am I missing?

Do you mean the Digital Deluxe Edition?

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#61 Pedro
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@vfighter said:

It says right in the first post the upgrade is free...what part of this circle jerk am I missing?

That was referring to Sony's stance in 2020 but now it has changed.

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#62 VatususReturns
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Yeah, despicable how much these companies lie in order to rack up early sales...

I'll be fine with my PS4 for the years to come, thank you. Im in no hurry to get a PS5

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#63 sealionact
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@vfighter: That’s the problem. It’s not free. In fact you can’t upgrade full stop.

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#64 Pedro
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@sealionact said:

@vfighter: That’s the problem. It’s not free. In fact you can’t upgrade full stop.

He just had a knee jerk reaction of believing others are wrong when he is the one that is in error. 😉

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#65  Edited By lundy86_4
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@vatususreturns: I don't blame you. I'm back to playing PS4 games on the PS5 within a couple months of purchase. Just played GoW again (60fps was a definite positive) and just started the Uncharted Collection.

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#66 Gatygun
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Best played on PC and also for only 16 bucks.

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#67 deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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Folks on this board swore that PS would have to react to what Xbox has been doing as far as being “consumer friendly.” Well it looks like PS is moving in the exact opposite direction. They must have some data that shows this is the way to go.

One company is charging extra money for their games. The other is practically giving them away. Other than a couple teraflops and a little ssd speed, this is the only difference between the consoles. In fact, it’s the biggest difference.

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#69  Edited By my_user_name
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Sony has no reason to change their ways until people stop buying their shit ... which doesn't seem like it's going to happen anytime soon.

Props to MS for how they've handled it and also backwards compatibility. Not sure if it's paying off but it's appreciated.

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#70 JasonOfA36
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Well, shit. Good thing I'm not getting a PS5 as I'm patient enough with waiting for Sony games to come to PC.

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#71 hrt_rulz01
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Lol, I think there are fewer cows in this thread than in a vegan shop.

Can't wait to see their defense of this. Look like we had one attempt that failed already 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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#72 lundy86_4
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@my_user_name said:

Sony has no reason to change their ways until people stop buying their shit ... which doesn't seem like it's going to happen anytime soon.

Of course you need to change direction before people stop buying your product.

People won't stop buying, but Sony has a convoluted and constantly changing upgrade path... It's simply bad.

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#73 VFighter
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@Pedro: Ok thats a really bad and stupid move on Sony's part.

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#74 Antwan3K
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@goldenelementxl said:

Folks on this board swore that PS would have to react to what Xbox has been doing as far as being “consumer friendly.” Well it looks like PS is moving in the exact opposite direction. They must have some data that shows this is the way to go.

One company is charging extra money for their games. The other is practically giving them away. Other than a couple teraflops and a little ssd speed, this is the only difference between the consoles. In fact, it’s the biggest difference.

yep, because we all know being super arrogant in the gaming industry has always ended great..

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#75 Willy105
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I can’t say anything, cause Nintendo wants me to do the same thing, except the price is still $60 for a nextgen upgrade 10 years after the game came out.

I’ll just say everyone should do it the Microsoft way.

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#76 deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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@Antwan3K said:

yep, because we all know being super arrogant in the gaming industry has always ended great..

But we’re almost a year in, and PS is pushing even further in the opposite direction. Usually we’d see a pivot starting to happen. For example, Xbox pulled the Kinect out of the box and sold the Xbox One at $399 just 7 months after launch.

Maybe the hardware shortages are giving PS a false sense of security. I honestly think if the Xbox supply was better, the sales gap would be much closer.

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#77  Edited By cohmiracleman
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There is just no possible way to view this news in a positive light if you're looking at it from a consumer point of view. Sony is having all kinds of issues right now with their bleak game lineup for the foreseeable future.

This certainly does not help. Their best bet right now is that the majority of people that buy consoles have no idea about policies like this. The mother buying the ps5 for their kid doesn't know this. The kid doesn't care either because they're not the ones buying the game.

This is a calculated decision by Sony to help them earn more money. It will work too. The people defending them (whenever they come to this thread) can only really defend them from a capitalist point of view. And we are all consumers.

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#78 mrbojangles25
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You know for a while there I thought Sony might actually be trying to compete on the price level, but it seems like they're saying screw it and just going after the "Deluxe premium" venue. Which is a ripoff, but people love to equate cost to quality.

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#79 Ghost120x
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This sucks for people who want a PS5 but can’t get one. They can either play the game on PS4 now or wait until they can get a PS5.

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#80 sheep99
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This is some BS from Sony they want people to buy the 80$ versions, if they at least made the ps5 70$ Version capable to play on PS4 and ps5 that would be fair somewhat, dose not affect me but dose gamers who are still trying to find a ps5 some business crap right here hope people complain about it on PlayStation blog

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#81 Stratego7766
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Now that's crazy.

The only ones really benefiting from this are PS5 owners moving forward with their PS5 version.

This is why I prefer the Xbox ecosystem, their infrastructure and engineering team are far more focused and goals far better planned.

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#82 Antwan3K
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@goldenelementxl said:
@Antwan3K said:

yep, because we all know being super arrogant in the gaming industry has always ended great..

But we’re almost a year in, and PS is pushing even further in the opposite direction. Usually we’d see a pivot starting to happen. For example, Xbox pulled the Kinect out of the box and sold the Xbox One at $399 just 7 months after launch.

Maybe the hardware shortages are giving PS a false sense of security. I honestly think if the Xbox supply was better, the sales gap would be much closer.

as long as Sony fans don't care, Sony won't care.. just like any other business (including Microsoft), their number one goal is to make money.. and if they can get away with charging an extra $10~$20 for next-gen upgrades due to confusing anti-consumer policies, they're going to do so..

Microsoft would do the same but they got their faces stomped in by the PS4 so they can't..

But I still believe there is a tipping point.. if Xbox can keep winning these PR battles with consumer friendly moves and their first-party studios can actually start pumping out quality titles (which is very possible with the Bethesda acquisition), the tides can eventually start to turn.. that's a really big "if" though..

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#83 firedrakes
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so on reddit... no one coming to defend this..

well done sony.

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#84 lebanese_boy
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Well that sucks...

Pretty funny how the dumb fanboys are avoiding this thread though but that's to be expected by now.

Hopefully Sony changes this, for shame.

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#85 hardwenzen
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Minimal effort for Maximum profit.

Sony stole it from Nintendo, and now they're trying to make it their own.

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#86  Edited By Mesome713
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Had this been Nintendo, the whole angry crybaby army would be up in arms and all over YouTube would be millions of fanboys whining. But because it’s Sony, these fanboys take it right up the arse.

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#87 VFighter
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@lebanese_boy: If it gets enough backlash I think Sony would change it, that is if the "dumb fanboys" actually call them out on this nonsense.

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#88 Mesome713
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@vfighter: That’s not gonna happen, Sony fans bend over without even second guessing.

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#89 Litchie
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I was gonna come in here and have fun on Sony and their fanboys expense, but everyone agrees this move was retarded. And all the Sony fanboys went into hiding.

@mrbojangles25 said:

You know for a while there I thought Sony might actually be trying to compete on the price level, but it seems like they're saying screw it and just going after the "Deluxe premium" venue. Which is a ripoff, but people love to equate cost to quality.

Sony is like the EA of consoles. Everyone buys their shit, so they can actively screw their own customers without it having a negative effect on the company. Some nerds on the internet will be angry, who cares when the rest of the world buys their shit.

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#90 R4gn4r0k
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@Gatygun said:

Best played on PC and also for only 16 bucks.

Sure... in 10 years.

As long as Sony treats PC gamers like second rate citizens and they can't get a release day one, that point is moot.

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#91 palasta
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Mh. Interesting. Gives hope it isn't just a lazy 1:1 upscaled version.

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#92 Gym_Lion
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And some people said Smart Delivery was just a buzzword.

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#93 Epak_
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So if I want to play the PS5 version on my PS5 I get the PS5 version of the game. Watched an IGN video about this just minutes ago and thought I have to buy the Super Digital Mega Edition just to get access to the PS5 version lol.

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#94 CanYouDiglt
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Wow Sony is taking it to a new level of scum this gen.

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#95 SecretPolice
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The bovine brigade loves so much being milked, on the very, very, rare occasion that Phony, isn't there to milk'em...

They're more than happy to do it themselves. lolol :P

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#96  Edited By PC_Rocks
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Don't see anything wrong with that. I mean they just can't convert a physical game to a digital release.

EDIT: Just looked at the quote and missed what you guys were talking about.

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#98 Ibacai
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Sony is definitely either too full of themselves, hubris is never good for business, or their management oversight is so garbage that crappy ideas keep getting pushed through.

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#99 nintendoboy16
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@Pedro said:
@Juub1990 said:

Lol console suckers have been paying twice for the next-gen version of their games for years. In times past you wouldn’t even get the option to upgrade.

By getting a console you accepted to be slaves to your corporate masters, now is too late to complain.

You’re the ones who told Sony you were OK with this. Wake up and smell the coffee.

"Bu buh but you poor and can't afford to buy games" That was their damage control.

Oh great! Good to know there are more classists in this community (hell, met a few in System Wars). Ugh...

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#100 Sagemode87
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Gamers are spoiled man children these days. No one bought a PS1 game expecting a free PS2 upgrade in the future. These are two different versions of the game and you want them to sell themselves short. Either wait until you get a PS5 or get the double pack.