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#1 Unkind223
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http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6030&Itemid=2

Moo! Alright lets brawl now.

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#2 ngoniko
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most of EVERY thing in this world is copied by something.

please don't make it sound like a big deal.

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#3 XaosII
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And? You talk like XBL is something thats original.
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#4 ps3gen
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most of EVERY thing in this world is copied by something.

please don't make it sound like a big deal.

ngoniko

my thoughts exactly..microsoft copies too nintend as well.

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#5 cobrax25
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XBL isnt original either.
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#6 elcoholic
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isn't one of your complaints that psn lacks features compared to live? So now they want to implement some of the things everyone wants and its still not good? What exactly do you want? If they don't have it its bad, if they do have it its also bad? Lame thread.

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#7 humaneater
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Copying is okay, as long as its not exactly the same. You have to add your own twist to it or try to improve it. Nothing is completely orginal. Everything is based off of something.

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#8 MegaPigeon
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Urm, unified friends lists, anyone?

The interview shows that Sony know they've screwed up but prefer not to say so despite clearly appearing to feel that way. They're hardly on a level playing field seeing how the 360 has IM chat, movie rental, cross-game chat, and unified friends lists, so I guess that's just Sony being their typical selves again....

Of course, they're going to improve their service in the future, but so is Microsoft. MS create cool features, Sony copies them, MS comes up with even more features, SOny copies them ,etc. Unless they come up with something useful and worth while (Home doesn't count, cows) they're not going to keep up with Live. Also, I'll laugh myself to death if they begin charging for PSN.

[edit] Quotation missing due to Glitchspot. It was meant to quote how SOny said thye were on a level playing field.

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#9 TOAO_Cyrus1
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Achievements were invented by MS and that guy basically said they are planning to rip them off.
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#10 cobrax25
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Achievements were invented by MS and that guy basically said they are planning to rip them off.TOAO_Cyrus1

no they werent...They have always existed in one form or another. Those older online arcade sites had similar features set up.

Not to mention Achievements for individual games, have exsisted for decades.

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#11 Eddie-Vedder
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Achievements were invented by MS and that guy basically said they are planning to rip them off.TOAO_Cyrus1

MS copied sony by making a console. See how stupid that sounds?

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#12 Unkind223
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Cobrax, no. Arcade games had leaderboards.

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#13 Hater3000
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And? You talk like XBL is something thats original.XaosII

And the cow said Moo...

Sorry i had to do that...for the lulz :P.

Well is getting better all the time i guess but wasn't the trophies the PSN achievement-like system or what now you get both achievements and trophies because i like the idea now you can brag about your hax skillz with people that don't give a pickle.

"I'm the leet warhawk player biatch i got all teh achievements and i got da trophy to prove it newb".

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#14 Water_Sage
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It's a weird thing to say but Sony would be nothing without Nintendo and M$
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#15 marioblah
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So basically.

PS3 sucks for not having achievments, not having cross game meassing, no XMB while gaming.

And then, when PS3 gets these things, it the worst thing on the planet?

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#16 Hater3000
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[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"]Achievements were invented by MS and that guy basically said they are planning to rip them off.Eddie-Vedder

MS copied sony by making a console. See how stupid that sounds?

IMO that sound a Little bit more stupid than what he said.

You can say that Sony copied the achievement system

Or that Sony just make the achievements a standard ;).

But again do we get also the trophies?.

Trophies and achievements>trophies>achievements.

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#17 hongkingkong
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Why can't MS copy PSN's network and get rid of lag.
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#18 Cyberfairy
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Haha, all I see is lemmings being jealous that PSN will get just as good as XBL soon. But since they're always grasping for straws they have to come up with something to counter-attack. Pathetic...
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#19 Unkind223
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If you didnt read it, you will soon possibly be paying for online cows.

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Have fun with 35 year olds on Home!

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#20 16bitkevin
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Since when was XBL an original idea?
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Haha, all I see is lemmings being jealous that PSN will get just as good as XBL soon. But since they're always grasping for straws they have to come up with something to counter-attack. Pathetic...Cyberfairy

Yes, because Xbox Live won't improve at all in any concievable way from now till the end of time :|

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#22 Unkind223
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Guys stop trying to say Microsoft is copying Sony by making a video game console or making online..

Microsoft created a console in the past.. THE COMPUTER!

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#23 -Spock-
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Usually people would scream "rip-off" or "copy", yet I see this as a good thing. Sony have the guts to recognise that Xbox Live is a great service. They are going to try and implement some of the more successful features into PSN while still try to keep the price free, or at least relatively low. To me, that sounds like a superb little piece of self improvement. And people say Sony don't care.. :(

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#24 wklzip
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[QUOTE="ngoniko"]

most of EVERY thing in this world is copied by something.

please don't make it sound like a big deal.

ps3gen

my thoughts exactly..microsoft copies too nintend as well.

logic in SW? MADNESS!!!

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#25 cobrax25
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Guys stop trying to say Microsoft is copying Sony by making a video game console or making online..

Microsoft created a console in the past.. THE COMPUTER!

Unkind223

Microsoft never created the computer...IBM did.

IBM was actually founded in 1888 (yes its true)

Microsoft created DOS...and as far as I remember, that wasnt the first operating system either.

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#26 munu9
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I wouldn't call it copying but more of "matching the compition" Like MS just came out with a killer app AAA shooter, if sony then came out with a killer app AAA shooter would that be copying? (Ex: MGS4) No! Would that be bad? No!! Sony is just matching everything XBL can do. Isn't that what lemmings bash PSN for? "Not being as good as XBL"? Lets just hope sony doesn't match the $50 a year XBL does as well...
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#27 16bitkevin
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Guys stop trying to say Microsoft is copying Sony by making a video game console or making online..

Microsoft created a console in the past.. THE COMPUTER!

Unkind223

Not really.

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#28 killab2oo5
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And? You talk like XBL is something thats original.XaosII
How is it not originial?What else is similar to Live,that came before it?:?I cant think of anything.

EDIT:Well...the internet.

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#29 krafty27
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How can Microsoft fanboys say anything about Sony copying something. Everything Microsoft does is a copy off of something. DOS was written by someone else (not Bill Gates), Windows was copied from Apple, Active Directory was copied from Novell NetWare, Vista is a copy of MacOS X.....do I need to continue. Sony has a long way to go if they want to copy XBL. PSN and XBL are not on the same playing field. Not if Sony doesn't start offering better content. Why are the Microsoft fanboys even concerned about this? Just play the games and stop complaining about what Sony is doing.
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#30 cobrax25
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[QUOTE="XaosII"]And? You talk like XBL is something thats original.killab2oo5
How is it not originial?What else is similar to Live,that came before it?:?I cant think of anything.

dozens of PC programs?

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[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="XaosII"]And? You talk like XBL is something thats original.cobrax25

How is it not originial?What else is similar to Live,that came before it?:?I cant think of anything.

dozens of PC programs?

>.> Inform me.
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[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="XaosII"]And? You talk like XBL is something thats original.cobrax25

How is it not originial?What else is similar to Live,that came before it?:?I cant think of anything.

dozens of PC programs?

really? so if I log into xfire I can talk to people that are on thier xbox 360's????

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#33 tango90101
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XBL isnt original either.cobrax25

i disagree..

i have seen no ONE service that offers everything xbox live does...

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#34 mushi799
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[QUOTE="cobrax25"]

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="XaosII"]And? You talk like XBL is something thats original.killab2oo5

How is it not originial?What else is similar to Live,that came before it?:?I cant think of anything.

dozens of PC programs?

>.> Inform me.

u serious? What can't you do on the PC? Chat, third party add-ons, MODs, Demos = ALL FREE.

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#35 cobrax25
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[QUOTE="cobrax25"]

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="XaosII"]And? You talk like XBL is something thats original.DoctorBunny

How is it not originial?What else is similar to Live,that came before it?:?I cant think of anything.

dozens of PC programs?

really? so if I log into xfire I can talk to people that are on thier xbox 360's????

no but you can talk to other people using X-Fire...isnt that the whole point.

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#36 mushi799
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[QUOTE="cobrax25"]XBL isnt original either.tango90101

i disagree..

i have seen no ONE service that offers everything xbox live does...

the PC

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#37 cobrax25
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[QUOTE="cobrax25"]

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="XaosII"]And? You talk like XBL is something thats original.killab2oo5

How is it not originial?What else is similar to Live,that came before it?:?I cant think of anything.

dozens of PC programs?

>.> Inform me.

Qtracker was the first, the All-seeing-eye came out slightly later and is now owned by Yahoo.

Gamespy, is probably the one most closely resembling XBL, since Gamespy is actual built into most PC games.

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It's a weird thing to say but Sony would be nothing without Nintendo and M$Water_Sage

What are you talking about? Sony was King before M$ even got into the console wars. And Nintendo was a joke, they really didn't have to do anything Nintendo did it to themselves.

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#39 killab2oo5
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[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="XaosII"]And? You talk like XBL is something thats original.mushi799

How is it not originial?What else is similar to Live,that came before it?:?I cant think of anything.

dozens of PC programs?

>.> Inform me.

u serious? What can't you do on the PC? Chat, third party add-ons, MODs, Demos = ALL FREE.

Well..duh,thats called the internet.The internet isnt considered just one service like live though,name me one service like Live that allows your to play online mutliplayer,download arcade games,movies,music videos,voice chat,video chat...etc. like Live does.
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#40 Ragnarok1051
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Guys stop trying to say Microsoft is copying Sony by making a video game console or making online..

Microsoft created a console in the past.. THE COMPUTER!

Unkind223

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#41 tango90101
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[QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]XBL isnt original either.mushi799

i disagree..

i have seen no ONE service that offers everything xbox live does...

the PC

i haven't seen a pc game that allows 4 player splitscreen while playing online... then again, i haven't donea ton of pc gaming either...

nor EVERY pc game having voicecom.... sure you can d/l more software for voicecom, but you have to buy the headset on your own... and hope everyone has one online..

it takes many different programs to equal what's in ONE xbox live subscription..;)

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#42 mushi799
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[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="XaosII"]And? You talk like XBL is something thats original.cobrax25

How is it not originial?What else is similar to Live,that came before it?:?I cant think of anything.

dozens of PC programs?

>.> Inform me.

Qtracker was the first, the All-seeing-eye came out slightly later and is now owned by Yahoo.

Gamespy, is probably the one most closely resembling XBL, since Gamespy is actual built into most PC games.

there are plenty of programs, hell STEAM has their own chat program and demos/mods for their games. There're gametiger.com, battle.net or UT's own servers., GAIM has a mod that allows you to chat on any game that you play which is cool since, gaim is compatible with AIM, YAHOO, % MSN. The features goes on.

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#43 mushi799
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[QUOTE="mushi799"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]XBL isnt original either.tango90101

i disagree..

i have seen no ONE service that offers everything xbox live does...

the PC

i haven't seen a pc game that allows 4 player splitscreen while playing online... then again, i haven't donea ton of pc gaming either...

nor EVERY pc game having voicecom.... sure you can d/l more software for voicecom, but you have to buy the headset on your own... and hope everyone has one online..

it takes many different programs to equal what's in ONE xbox live subscription..;)

U GOT TO BE KIDDING RIGHT? I was talking on a speaker since doom 1 back in early 90s. Splitscreen? Try 64 player servers. Like i said, MS just took the best of PC gaming and put it on the xbox. Nothing more.

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#44 killab2oo5
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[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="XaosII"]And? You talk like XBL is something thats original.cobrax25

How is it not originial?What else is similar to Live,that came before it?:?I cant think of anything.

dozens of PC programs?

>.> Inform me.

Qtracker was the first, the All-seeing-eye came out slightly later and is now owned by Yahoo.

Gamespy, is probably the one most closely resembling XBL, since Gamespy is actual built into most PC games.

Qtracker doesnt have a movie rental service,and you can download music videos and tv shows,unless I overlooked it.
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#45 killab2oo5
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[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="mushi799"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]XBL isnt original either.mushi799

i disagree..

i have seen no ONE service that offers everything xbox live does...

the PC

i haven't seen a pc game that allows 4 player splitscreen while playing online... then again, i haven't donea ton of pc gaming either...

nor EVERY pc game having voicecom.... sure you can d/l more software for voicecom, but you have to buy the headset on your own... and hope everyone has one online..

it takes many different programs to equal what's in ONE xbox live subscription..;)

U GOT TO BE KIDDING RIGHT? I was talking on a speaker since doom 1 back in early 90s. Splitscreen? Try 64 player servers. Like i said, MS just took the best of PC gaming and put it on the xbox. Nothing more.

I haved of 2 player split-screen on PC,but have yet to see 4-player "splitscreen" and also being able to play online.64 player server doesnt=4 player splitscreen online.
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#46 tango90101
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[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="mushi799"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]XBL isnt original either.mushi799

i disagree..

i have seen no ONE service that offers everything xbox live does...

the PC

i haven't seen a pc game that allows 4 player splitscreen while playing online... then again, i haven't donea ton of pc gaming either...

nor EVERY pc game having voicecom.... sure you can d/l more software for voicecom, but you have to buy the headset on your own... and hope everyone has one online..

it takes many different programs to equal what's in ONE xbox live subscription..;)

U GOT TO BE KIDDING RIGHT? I was talking on a speaker since doom 1 back in early 90s. Splitscreen? Try 64 player servers. Like i said, MS just took the best of PC gaming and put it on the xbox. Nothing more.

congrats..too bad most pc gamers don't use voicecom..

while ALL 360 users have it...;)

cross game invites? haven't seen those on pc...

let me guess...you CAN...but only after you've d/l more soft(spy)ware....right?

no thanks...

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#47 daqua_99
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most of EVERY thing in this world is copied by something.

please don't make it sound like a big deal.

ngoniko
Ok, you copy a school assignment from a website and not quote it or anything ..... if I were to do that and get caught bye bye HSC. Fact of the matter is that plagerism is wrong
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#48 bennyboi98
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i do feel that ps3's trophies are a bit of a blatent cpy of achievment points, but then sony have a way with taking features from other consoles, like motion sesing.
btw i do know that ps1 had a failed motion thing in a few controllers, but really, if the wii didnt announce motion sensing it the controller, there wouildnt be a motion sensor on any ps3 right now!!!

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#49 a_ratchet_fan
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Lol... if you're going to talk about copying, compare the original Xbox controller to the Dreamcast controller.  Now crawl back into your hole and stay there.
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#50 MikeE21286
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Ahh Fanboys......one minute Sony is too arrogant and the next minute you're blaming them for complimenting somebody else. WTF is up with that

And the whole copying thing is SOOOO overrated. In every single industry everyone copies off everyone else. C'mon