Sony Corp invests $250 million in Epic Games

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#1  Edited By Nonstop-Madness
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This appears to go well beyond just gaming but, it'll be interesting to see how Sony and PlayStation leverage more of Epic's technology going forward.

The investment cements an already close relationship between the two companies and reinforces the shared mission to advance the state of the art in technology, entertainment, and socially-connected online services.

The investment allows Sony and Epic to aim to broaden their collaboration across Sony’s leading portfolio of entertainment assets and technology, and Epic’s social entertainment platform and digital ecosystem to create unique experiences for consumers and creators. The closing of the investment is subject to customary closing conditions, including regulatory approvals.

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#2 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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Wow dude Sony is huge. Meanwhile mixer shutdown and Microsoft stores closing there doors

Id rather invest in Sony look at this power play by Sony

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#3 VirusVaccine21
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Jesus, you posted this seconds before mine. -_-, fine I'm a very good person, perhaps the most on these forums.

Anyhow. Meanwhile Boobiesoft is buying low-tier developers, Sony is about to do something big. Obviously this isn't a total buy-out, but it's obvious they are planning something big.

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#4 BenjaminBanklin
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Team Xbox on ResetEra in their feelings over this news. There's probably not even anything major coming out of this.

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#5 hardwenzen
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Should have invested that money into the PS5. Maybe we wouldn't be stuck with an underpowered 9.2tflops system. Thanks Sony.

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#6  Edited By pyro1245
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Hmmm....

That's like.... how much money Epic makes each month from Fortnite.

So now Tencent owns 48.4% of Epic, and Sony owns 1.4%. Interesting.

This deal also doesn't stop Sony from selling games on other PC stores.

It's also worth mentioning that Tencent paid $330M for 40% of Epic in 2012 (the other 8.4% was for help with Fortnite i think)

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#7 VFighter
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@hardwenzen: Yawn...that's really the best you got?

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#8  Edited By deactivated-5f2b4872031c2
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@hardwenzen said:

Should have invested that money into the PS5. Maybe we wouldn't be stuck with an underpowered 9.2tflops system. Thanks Sony.

Isn't the PS5 10 point something-something tflops?

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@subspecies said:
@hardwenzen said:

Should have invested that money into the PS5. Maybe we wouldn't be stuck with an underpowered 9.2tflops system. Thanks Sony.

Isn't the PS5 10 point something-something tflops?

Yep! When it throttles the CPU.

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@vfighter said:

@hardwenzen: Yawn...that's really the best you got?

I understand, you have to defend your piece of plastic.

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@Pedro said:
@subspecies said:
@hardwenzen said:

Should have invested that money into the PS5. Maybe we wouldn't be stuck with an underpowered 9.2tflops system. Thanks Sony.

Isn't the PS5 10 point something-something tflops?

Yep! When it throttles the CPU.

What would tormy say?

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#12  Edited By Pedro
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@subspecies said:

What would tormy say?

He is in denial because power matters more than games for him.

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#13 PC_Rocks
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250M...that's chump change for Epic. They probably way spend more on their exclusive deals for EGS and make much much more from Fortnite on a monthly basis. Why would they go for it...!!!

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#14  Edited By deactivated-5f2b4872031c2
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@Pedro said:
@subspecies said:

What would tormy say?

He is in denial because power matters more than games for him.

Paging @tormentos. We need you at the front of the store.

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@Pedro said:
@subspecies said:

What would tormy say?

He is in denial because power matters more than games.

When was the last time you saw him discussing about any game? I don't think he even play games.

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@pc_rocks said:

250M...that's chump change for Epic. They probably way spend more on their exclusive deals for EGS and make much much more from Fortnite on a monthly basis. Why would they go for it...!!!

They need Sweeney to talk more about the PS5 being a masterpiece in design. 😎

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#17 Duckyindiana
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Wow people acting like this is a massive investment! It’s a minority stake and nothing compared to other companies.

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@pc_rocks said:

250M...that's chump change for Epic. They probably way spend more on their exclusive deals for EGS and make much much more from Fortnite on a monthly basis. Why would they go for it...!!!

I was thinking that as well. Doesn’t sound like a lot of money. Perhaps is the equivalent of companies becoming blood brothers?

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@Pedro said:
@pc_rocks said:

250M...that's chump change for Epic. They probably way spend more on their exclusive deals for EGS and make much much more from Fortnite on a monthly basis. Why would they go for it...!!!

They need Sweeney to talk more about the PS5 being a masterpiece in design. 😎

that right their...

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#20 ButDuuude
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@subspecies: Yes, 10.28 Teraflops.

But but but 9.2 teraflops that goes up to 10.2...you know? -_-

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Theres the payment for bigging up the SSD on PS5

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#22 IvanGrozny
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Sony is switching towards PC Gaming. Can't wait to play all Sony exclusives on PC. CLHBO. 😂

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#23  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@ivangrozny said:

Sony is switching towards PC Gaming. Can't wait to play all Sony exclusives on PC. CLHBO. 😂

I'm fine with Sony working with Epic and if this is the only way to play there games on PC, EGS it is. I can live with that :)

If that's the case, no need to purchase PS5.

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#24 DrLostRib
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@ProtossRushX said:

Wow dude Sony is huge. Meanwhile mixer shutdown and Microsoft stores closing there doors

Id rather invest in Sony look at this power play by Sony

Then you are making some poor choices

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#25 DrLostRib
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“Sony and Epic have both built businesses at the intersection of creativity and technology, and we share a vision of real-time 3D social experiences leading to a convergence of gaming, film, and music. Together we strive to build an even more open and accessible digital ecosystem for all consumers and content creators alike"

So Playstation Home 2?

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#26  Edited By IMAHAPYHIPPO
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@vfighter said:

@hardwenzen: Yawn...that's really the best you got?

Completely ignoring the fact that the One X is more powerful than the PS4 Pro and still doesn't have games that look any better. But yes, going by this post and all of their others, it appears that is the best Hardwenzen's got.

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#27 NoodleFighter
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No wonder Tim Sweeney has been praising the PS5's SSD so much and not saying a single thing about Xbox Series X or PS5's GPU power.

@davillain- said:
@ivangrozny said:

Sony is switching towards PC Gaming. Can't wait to play all Sony exclusives on PC. CLHBO. 😂

I'm fine with Sony working with Epic and if this is the only way to play there games on PC, EGS it is. I can live with that :)

If that's the case, no need to purchase PS5.

Hey if this deal helps get Playstation Exclusives on PC then I wouldn't mind buying from the Epic Store but let's wait and see what they'll actually do with this partnership. I imagine it will be making tools to develop for PS5 more easily mostly.

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@hardwenzen said:
@vfighter said:

@hardwenzen: Yawn...that's really the best you got?

I understand, you have to defend your piece of plastic.

Downplaying a generic piece of plastic, is in the same vein or maybe little worse!!!

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#29 Gatygun
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And there it is, epic shilling for sony now we know.

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#30  Edited By JasonOfA36
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I'll take Tim Sweeney shilling the PS5 SSD for 250M USD.

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#31  Edited By Crazy_Chemist
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Before i say what i have to say, i didnt have an xbox 360 since i was mainly gaming on playstation or PC.

Okay so why is it that when Sony does this “wow this is great look at how big they are, nice.” , but when Microsoft did this type of stuff during the 360 days they were “look at MS buying crap so no one else can play those games, grrrr this is shch bullshit, etc etc blah blah”.

Really though it makes no sense why its okay for Sony to do this but not okay for microsoft to do this. Boggles my mind.

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@Pedro said:
@subspecies said:
@hardwenzen said:

Should have invested that money into the PS5. Maybe we wouldn't be stuck with an underpowered 9.2tflops system. Thanks Sony.

Isn't the PS5 10 point something-something tflops?

Yep! When it throttles the CPU.

Please provide a benchmark or proof to the claim you just make,and no mark Cerny word is not good enough according to your line of arguing.

By the way in the spirit of been linear ask @hardwenzen for a benchmark as well for that 9.2TF claim.

@subspecies said:
@Pedro said:
@subspecies said:

What would tormy say?

He is in denial because power matters more than games for him.

Paging @tormentos. We need you at the front of the store.

Pedro just reached then end of his act,no longer can he call people out after been exposed as a 2 faced buffoon who can't even admit his own arguments.

Pedro love to ask for proof when he him self shown non for his claims.

Which is why i just asked him to show proof now that the CPU most be throttle so that the GPU is 10TF,and it can't cerny nor DF because i have use information from both of those sources and he refuse to admit the as true and just claim i just fell for the hype.

I wonder what marvelous spin the little lemming would put out now,look how he was fast to quote you when you say 10TF but when the other troll claimed 9.2TF he played alone and say nothing.

Well that is because Pedro deep inside believe the PS5 will drop to 9.2Tf and he claimed the gap would be as big as 32% He is quoted on it.😎

@pc_rocks said:

250M...that's chump change for Epic. They probably way spend more on their exclusive deals for EGS and make much much more from Fortnite on a monthly basis. Why would they go for it...!!!

That is even less for MS and they still get investment every year,it means nothing this is sony corp investing on what is surely a gain for sony corp not sony playstation division by the way.

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#33 sakaiXx
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its probably just like Square Enix then, not gonna affect Epic much.

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#34  Edited By Pedro
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@tormentos said:

Please provide a benchmark or proof to the claim you just make,and no mark Cerny word is not good enough according to your line of arguing.

By the way in the spirit of been linear ask @hardwenzen for a benchmark as well for that 9.2TF claim.

You don't need benchmarks to know that the CPU throttles for the GPU to be at its top speed. That is the whole purpose of Smartshift. I know you are still pissed because you can't validate your 18.3%. 🤣

Please don't cry to me because another forumer makes you upset. Don't ask me to fix your problem. 😂

EDIT: I didn't realize that you were crying more when @subspecies was making fun of you. This shit is hilarious.

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#35 tdkmillsy
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It equates to 1.5% of Epic Games

Not that big of a deal really.

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#36 Pedro
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@tdkmillsy said:

It equates to 1.5% of Epic Games

Not that big of a deal really.

1.5% performance boost to the PS5 could mean a lot, too bad the software can't do that. 😂

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#37  Edited By tormentos
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@ButDuuude said:

@subspecies: Yes, 10.28 Teraflops.

But but but 9.2 teraflops that goes up to 10.2...you know? -_-

Actually the PS5 doesn't work that way is not 9.2TF,the GPU speed is 2.23ghz when the CPU demands more power there is a shieft in power,and frequency is drop by like 3% according to DF,but that is the worse case scenario most of the time the machine will be 10.3TF but even if it drops 3% in frequency is not enough to drop to 9.2TF in fact i don't think it is enough to drop bellow 10TF.

But don't take my word for it i am just a blind sony fanboy spewing shit on the internet.

@hardwenzen said:
@Pedro said:
@subspecies said:

What would tormy say?

He is in denial because power matters more than games.

When was the last time you saw him discussing about any game? I don't think he even play games.

A much better question would be what is your other account,since we all know this is a dusted alt account.

@tdkmillsy said:

Theres the payment for bigging up the SSD on PS5

Epic when it was with MS = Great

Epic when it is with sony = Sucks.

Is that it?

Well have you see me downplaying Ninja Theory? Because i did saw you lemms downplaying it when it was on PS4 and PS3,see is this hypocrisy the problem here.

Same with Insomniac Resistance suck so does Insomniac,they come and make sunset over drive and all of the sudden they were great.

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@Pedro said:

You don't need benchmarks to know that the CPU throttles for the GPU to be at its top speed. That is the whole purpose of Smartshift. I know you are still pissed because you can't validate your 18.3%. 🤣

Please don't cry to me because another forumer makes you upset. Don't ask me to fix your problem. 😂

EDIT: I didn't realize that you were crying more when @subspecies was making fun of you. This shit is hilarious.

Yes we do.

Provide it because mark Cerny claimed there is enough power to run both at the same time at max speed.

Now if Mark confirmed variable speed and his word is good enough to take as a FACT.

Why would not be his word claiming that there is enough power in the machine to run both at the same time as been false.

So yeah please post a benchmark your word is not valid.

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@tormentos said:
@Pedro said:

You don't need benchmarks to know that the CPU throttles for the GPU to be at its top speed. That is the whole purpose of Smartshift. I know you are still pissed because you can't validate your 18.3%. 🤣

Please don't cry to me because another forumer makes you upset. Don't ask me to fix your problem. 😂

EDIT: I didn't realize that you were crying more when @subspecies was making fun of you. This shit is hilarious.

Yes we do.

Provide it because mark Cerny claimed there is enough power to run both at the same time at max speed.

Now if Mark confirmed variable speed and his word is good enough to take as a FACT.

Why would not be his word claiming that there is enough power in the machine to run both at the same time as been false.

So yeah please post a benchmark your word is not valid.

If that was the case why are developers running at lower CPU to keep the GPU at the higher level and why wouldn't you just run them both at max all the time.

You also really need to work out when some one is having a laugh. Epic got paid $250 million for producing a video that most have forgot about the SSD in PS5. Really??

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#40  Edited By Pedro
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@tormentos said:

Yes we do.

Provide it because mark Cerny claimed there is enough power to run both at the same time at max speed.

Now if Mark confirmed variable speed and his word is good enough to take as a FACT.

Why would not be his word claiming that there is enough power in the machine to run both at the same time as been false.

So yeah please post a benchmark your word is not valid.

Benchmarks are for comparisons. LOL. You are hurting really bad. SmartShift switches power between the CPU and GPU. Cerny can say whatever bullshit he wants but the fact of the matter is SmartShift; the technology in use, throttles the CPU or the GPU to overclock either GPU or CPU. Don't fight facts man. We been through this dance before. Don't be bitter because you didn't have benchmarks for your 18.3% claim when called out on it.

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#41 Dagubot
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Man I can't wait until these consoles launch so all this dumbass bickering over the teraflops is put to rest

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#42 Pedro
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@dagubot said:

Man I can't wait until these consoles launch so all this dumbass bickering over the teraflops is put to rest

There will always be bickering. The next bickering points will be framerate, resolution, load times and ray tracing.

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#43 tormentos
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@tdkmillsy said:

If that was the case why are developers running at lower CPU to keep the GPU at the higher level and why wouldn't you just run them both at max all the time.

You also really need to work out when some one is having a laugh. Epic got paid $250 million for producing a video that most have forgot about the SSD in PS5. Really??

I have a theory but is just that a theory.

I think it can run both at the same time at full speed,but can't sustain both because the PS5 heating solution is based on power balance,the PSU inside that machine i am sure will have more than enough power to supply both components,but using the max power on both components will result in higher heat.

But is good that you bring that argument,you know why because you are willing to accept it as TRUE so since you adknowledge it as true that the developers are holding back the CPU to ensure the GPU top speed.

You also must adknowledge as true that the GPU will certainly almost always be 2.23GHZ which mean 18.3% gap in power.

You simply can't have it both ways.

Please link me to the article that claimed Sony payed Epic for a video.😊

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#44 tormentos
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@Pedro said:

Benchmarks are for comparisons. LOL. You are hurting really bad. SmartShift switches power between the CPU and GPU. Cerny can say whatever bullshit he wants but the fact of the matter is SmartShift; the technology in use, throttles the CPU or the GPU to overclock either GPU or CPU. If Don't fight facts man. We been through this dance before. Don't be bitter because you didn't have benchmarks for your 18.3% claim when called out on it.

Please provide a benchmark or proof to the claim you just make

Benchmark or PROOF i see you once again saw only what you liked.

Stop stalling and please show proof.

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@Pedro said:
@tormentos said:

Please provide a benchmark or proof to the claim you just make,and no mark Cerny word is not good enough according to your line of arguing.

By the way in the spirit of been linear ask @hardwenzen for a benchmark as well for that 9.2TF claim.

You don't need benchmarks to know that the CPU throttles for the GPU to be at its top speed. That is the whole purpose of Smartshift. I know you are still pissed because you can't validate your 18.3%. 🤣

Please don't cry to me because another forumer makes you upset. Don't ask me to fix your problem. 😂

EDIT: I didn't realize that you were crying more when @subspecies was making fun of you. This shit is hilarious.

I wasn't making fun of tormy...

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#46 Pedro
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@tormentos said:

Please provide a benchmark or proof to the claim you just make

Benchmark or PROOF i see you once again saw only what you liked.

Stop stalling and please show proof.

LOL. The proof was provided to you in many threads directly from AMD about SmartShift. Its funny seeing trying to use my tactics and you don't even know how to use it.

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#47 ermacness
Member since 2005 • 10956 Posts

@hardwenzen said:
@vfighter said:

@hardwenzen: Yawn...that's really the best you got?

I understand, you have to defend your piece of plastic.

No more than you feeling like you have to defend yours.

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#48 tormentos
Member since 2003 • 33793 Posts

@Pedro said:

LOL. The proof was provided to you in many threads directly from AMD about SmartShift. Its funny seeing trying to use my tactics and you don't even know how to use it.

No it wasn't and AMD didn't make the claim here you did.

So ill wait.

@hardwenzen said:
@vfighter said:

@hardwenzen: Yawn...that's really the best you got?

I understand, you have to defend your piece of plastic.

We understand that YOU have to hate a piece of plastic so.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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#49 Pedro
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@tormentos said:

No it wasn't and AMD didn't make the claim here you did.

So ill wait.

That's your strategy now? Pretending to be dumb? LOL

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#50 StrongDeadlift
Member since 2010 • 6073 Posts

And we now know why Tim Sweeney was shilling the PS5's ssd so hard.