Sony Corp invests $250 million in Epic Games

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#51 Phlop_Spencer
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@Pedro: do you have any proof to back up your claims?

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#52 VirusVaccine21
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@pc_rocks said:

250M...that's chump change for Epic. They probably way spend more on their exclusive deals for EGS and make much much more from Fortnite on a monthly basis. Why would they go for it...!!!

Yes, what would a multi-billion dollar company now more than you.

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@ermacness said:
@hardwenzen said:
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@hardwenzen: Yawn...that's really the best you got?

I understand, you have to defend your piece of plastic.

No more than you feeling like you have to defend yours.

I don't. You do, tho. Instatly noticed my message in less than 20sec lol.

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#54 hardwenzen
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@tormentos: Laughing at failures is not hating, but you wouldn't understand that because you're married to the PS5 before its even out.

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#55 Pedro
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@phlop_spencer said:

@Pedro: do you have any proof to back up your claims?

You got to be a bit more specific.

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#56 tormentos
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@Pedro:

Actually that is your strategy,lets see you claimed 18% without benchmark,but ask other for benchmarks the they claim 18%.

😂

You know boost on PC is not the same as PS5 doesnt stop you from been intelectually dishonest about it.

So yeah AMD did no make that claim her ey did back it up proof please.

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#57 tormentos
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@StrongDeadlift:

IT wasnt the PlayStation brand who invested on Epic it was sony Group is just another investment.

Didnt see you cry when they were in Bed witt MS,remember in fact it was epic who save the Xbox 360 from been gimped memory wise as MS going to use 256mb for the whole system,and it was Epic who convince MS to double the ram after showing then how gears look 256mb vs 512mb.

All of the sudden their claim are because Sony corp invented in them as if that money Sony invested would save Epic or some shit like that,that Pickett change for them now.

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#58 Pedro
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@tormentos said:

@Pedro:

Actually that is your strategy,lets see you claimed 18% without benchmark,but ask other for benchmarks the they claim 18%.

😂

You know boost on PC is not the same as PS5 doesnt stop you from been intelectually dishonest about it.

So yeah AMD did no make that claim her ey did back it up proof please.

Seems like you are still reeling in your voided 18.3% claim. 😂

You know Smart Shift existed on PC before the PS5.🤣

Facts, are your enemy.

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#59 tormentos
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@Pedro:

Thanks for agreeing with me in the 18% claim.😊

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#60 sealionact
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@tormentos: "I have a theory but is just that a theory.

I think it can run both at the same time at full speed,but can't sustain both ..."

So it can....but it can't? 😅😅

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#61 Pedro
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@tormentos said:

@Pedro:

Thanks for agreeing with me in the 18% claim.😊

That so cute, you are running away from the facts again.

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#62 Gifford38
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@Pedro said:
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What would tormy say?

He is in denial because power matters more than games for him.

lol no thats every xbox fan. teraflop hungry. 12 is everything to them.

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#63 Gifford38
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And we now know why Tim Sweeney was shilling the PS5's ssd so hard.

so what about other third party developers? they don't count either? look at crystal dynamics working on avengers or square Enix making project athia.

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#64 Pedro
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@gifford38 said:
@StrongDeadlift said:

And we now know why Tim Sweeney was shilling the PS5's ssd so hard.

so what about other third party developers? they don't count either? look at crystal dynamics working on avengers or square Enix making project athia.

So, you are agreeing that Sweeney was shilling because of the money.

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#65 PC_Rocks
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@tormentos said:

@pc_rocks said:

250M...that's chump change for Epic. They probably way spend more on their exclusive deals for EGS and make much much more from Fortnite on a monthly basis. Why would they go for it...!!!

That is even less for MS and they still get investment every year,it means nothing this is sony corp investing on what is surely a gain for sony corp not sony playstation division by the way.

Keep exposing yourself to be a fraud who likes to talk about things he has no idea about. The difference is MS is a public company unlike Epic. They can't restrict their shares being sold or bought, Epic can and they don't need investment for their operations.

But let's get back to the basics first, fraud. For the 65th time where are the sources for GDDR is better than DDR for CPUs? 3.5 months and counting.

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#66 PC_Rocks
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My personal hunch is neither Sweeney nor Tencent gave up their shares but more likely other minority stakeholders sold their shares for the profit. The question still remains why did Tencent or more specifically Sweeney allowed that and didn't grab it for themselves.

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#67 lamprey263
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Wonder if they'll collaborate with each other on cross platform rights access.

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#68 Gifford38
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@Pedro said:
@gifford38 said:
@StrongDeadlift said:

And we now know why Tim Sweeney was shilling the PS5's ssd so hard.

so what about other third party developers? they don't count either? look at crystal dynamics working on avengers or square Enix making project athia.

So, you are agreeing that Sweeney was shilling because of the money.

nope just telling him that just because sony bought some epic shares doesn't mean that there shilling about the ssd when other companies are saying the same thing.

he really thinks sony came to epic and said lie to every one for us about the ssd please here is 250 million to keep your mouth shut. now give me your shares and keep lieing to everyone. just sounds so stupid.

epic never said it was the best ssd ever. he said its the best ssd solution. there a big difference there and as we can see it's all true. everything epic has said about the ssd is true. because there are other sources that are saying it as well.

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#69 ermacness
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@hardwenzen said:
@ermacness said:
@hardwenzen said:
@vfighter said:

@hardwenzen: Yawn...that's really the best you got?

I understand, you have to defend your piece of plastic.

No more than you feeling like you have to defend yours.

I don't. You do, tho. Instatly noticed my message in less than 20sec lol.

Why do I need to defend it? Although being the weaker of the 2, it has been able to generate more hype and drew in more of the "consumer's attention" than the SeX have. You just needed to point that out to try to bring some kind of negativity in this thread.

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nope just telling him that just because sony bought some epic shares doesn't mean that there shilling about the ssd when other companies are saying the same thing.

he really thinks sony came to epic and said lie to every one for us about the ssd please here is 250 million to keep your mouth shut. now give me your shares and keep lieing to everyone. just sounds so stupid.

epic never said it was the best ssd ever. he said its the best ssd solution. there a big difference there and as we can see it's all true. everything epic has said about the ssd is true. because there are other sources that are saying it as well.

No! he didn't say it was the best ssd ever, he just said it was "God tier". 😎

You believed; and to some degree still do, the hype so much you were spewing nonsense about it rendering triangles, games having more details because of the hard drive and games can be terabytes in size among other nonsensical claims. So, its not hard to believe that the hype Tim has levied behind the SSD was just honest contributions especially when 250 million dollars was contributed less than 2 months later.

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@Pedro said:
@gifford38 said:

nope just telling him that just because sony bought some epic shares doesn't mean that there shilling about the ssd when other companies are saying the same thing.

he really thinks sony came to epic and said lie to every one for us about the ssd please here is 250 million to keep your mouth shut. now give me your shares and keep lieing to everyone. just sounds so stupid.

epic never said it was the best ssd ever. he said its the best ssd solution. there a big difference there and as we can see it's all true. everything epic has said about the ssd is true. because there are other sources that are saying it as well.

No! he didn't say it was the best ssd ever, he just said it was "God tier". 😎

You believed; and to some degree still do, the hype so much you were spewing nonsense about it rendering triangles, games having more details because of the hard drive and games can be terabytes in size among other nonsensical claims. So, its not hard to believe that the hype Tim has levied behind the SSD was just honest contributions especially when 250 million dollars was contributed less than 2 months later.

i never said the ssd was rendering triangles. i said it was loading in the gpu at the same time the system memory was doing it. epic said not enough system memory to keep all those triangles in it. so the ssd brought more in frame by frame to the gpu.

you then said a ssd is not fast enough for that. well the ps5 ssd solution is. it can bring in any assets they want from the ssd and the dma chip on the custom main chip tells were that data were to go. but again you don't believe me or third parties or sony or even epic. because you know everything about tech and how it works.

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@gifford38 said:

i never said the ssd was rendering triangles. i said it was loading in the gpu at the same time the system memory was doing it. epic said not enough system memory to keep all those triangles in it. so the ssd brought more in frame by frame to the gpu.

you then said a ssd is not fast enough for that. well the ps5 ssd solution is. it can bring in any assets they want from the ssd and the dma chip on the custom main chip tells were that data were to go. but again you don't believe me or third parties or sony or even epic. because you know everything about tech and how it works.

"they are using the ssd to render in more triangles as the game is in motion"

Also the SSD has no relationship with the GPU and as you have been told many times before, the SSD is too slow for the GPU and CPU. But, here we are again.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Let me share a fact with you. I don't know everything about tech and I am not even close. But I do know about this tech on the fundamental level. Its not like I haven't seen people who know better spewing bullshit. I have seen it happening over the last 20 years prior to a new console launch. Developers start making up bullshit that defies the fundamentals of computer science. And, every time fanboys eat it up.

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#73 Fedor
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Sony paid a steep price for Sweeney to shill their console.

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#74  Edited By Gifford38
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@Pedro said:
@gifford38 said:

i never said the ssd was rendering triangles. i said it was loading in the gpu at the same time the system memory was doing it. epic said not enough system memory to keep all those triangles in it. so the ssd brought more in frame by frame to the gpu.

you then said a ssd is not fast enough for that. well the ps5 ssd solution is. it can bring in any assets they want from the ssd and the dma chip on the custom main chip tells were that data were to go. but again you don't believe me or third parties or sony or even epic. because you know everything about tech and how it works.

"they are using the ssd to render in more triangles as the game is in motion"

Also the SSD has no relationship with the GPU and as you have been told many times before, the SSD is too slow for the GPU and CPU. But, here we are again.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Let me share a fact with you. I don't know everything about tech and I am not even close. But I do know about this tech on the fundamental level. Its not like I haven't seen people who know better spewing bullshit. I have seen it happening over the last 20 years prior to a new console launch. Developers start making up bullshit that defies the fundamentals of computer science. And, every time fanboys eat it up.

yes the ssd has no relationship with the gpu until the dma controller sends it were it needs to go. ssd is to slow in pc because of the bottlenecks it has before it gets there. yes i seen people spewing bull shit gen after gen. these bottlenecks has been there for awhile and everyone knows of them.

The custom decompressor for Kraken is in the main custom chip (which has both an AMD CPU and AMD Radeon RDNA 2 chip, and there is a DMA controller, two I/O processors, and on-chip RAM, on the SSD chip. It links to system memory and to the custom flash controller.

PS5 will have a main chip that includes both an Advanced Micro Devices central processing unit and a AMD Radeon RDNA 2 graphics processing unit. Both of those processors will be on the same chip.

this is why epic is saying this. everything is linked together. see that cpu on the main chip thats what makes it fast enough.

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#75 Gifford38
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@Pedro said:
@gifford38 said:

i never said the ssd was rendering triangles. i said it was loading in the gpu at the same time the system memory was doing it. epic said not enough system memory to keep all those triangles in it. so the ssd brought more in frame by frame to the gpu.

you then said a ssd is not fast enough for that. well the ps5 ssd solution is. it can bring in any assets they want from the ssd and the dma chip on the custom main chip tells were that data were to go. but again you don't believe me or third parties or sony or even epic. because you know everything about tech and how it works.

"they are using the ssd to render in more triangles as the game is in motion"

Also the SSD has no relationship with the GPU and as you have been told many times before, the SSD is too slow for the GPU and CPU. But, here we are again.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Let me share a fact with you. I don't know everything about tech and I am not even close. But I do know about this tech on the fundamental level. Its not like I haven't seen people who know better spewing bullshit. I have seen it happening over the last 20 years prior to a new console launch. Developers start making up bullshit that defies the fundamentals of computer science. And, every time fanboys eat it up.

you can also add external SSDs from the open market and install them in a bay on the PS5. They connect to the custom I/O unit and take advantage of those features. But the external SSD has to be as fast as the PS5 SSD.

see there is this to. its not the ssd its the custom i/o unit that can take the ssd data to were it needs to go.

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#76 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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It has been obvious for sometime now that Sony and Epic were in sharing the same bed. Now at least is official.

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#77  Edited By Gifford38
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so who is going to bet with me that the tech demo might be an actual game now? next ps5 game reveal will have it.

lol this is just me hoping for it.

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#78 Pedro
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@gifford38: You are hopeless. 🙄

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#79 Gifford38
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@Pedro said:

@gifford38: You are hopeless. 🙄

what ever.

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@drlostrib said:

“Sony and Epic have both built businesses at the intersection of creativity and technology, and we share a vision of real-time 3D social experiences leading to a convergence of gaming, film, and music. Together we strive to build an even more open and accessible digital ecosystem for all consumers and content creators alike"

So Playstation Home 2?

We can only hope!

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#81  Edited By lamprey263
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Also worth noting the two companies they want to acquire, the notable studios they'd acquire also have history with Epic, so seems Sony has something big planned with them.

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#82 Gifford38
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@shellcase86 said:
@drlostrib said:

“Sony and Epic have both built businesses at the intersection of creativity and technology, and we share a vision of real-time 3D social experiences leading to a convergence of gaming, film, and music. Together we strive to build an even more open and accessible digital ecosystem for all consumers and content creators alike"

So Playstation Home 2?

We can only hope!

drlostrib nice catch. I hope so two. home with a full arcade would be great. there is so much more they can expand home.