Sony doubles full-year profit forecasts to 40 billion yen

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#52 Newhopes
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[QUOTE="Karpetburnz"]"bu bu but Sony is doomed" :lol:Its good to see Sony making some good profits.mariokart64fan

no ones doomed lol the irony

With out selling off asserts Sony would have lost $2-3 billion.

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#53 Zaibach
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="AD216"] I agree 100% with the line of phonesGamingGod999

The Xperia range is doing well or so I have heard.

The Xperia Z has been doing incredibly well, with a report indicating it's achieved 4.6 million sales in just 40 days.

and has a lot of stellar reviews, if I do get a smartphone soon it will be an xperia Z

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#54 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

They need to let go of phones too. They need to focus on their TV line and their entertainment lines. 

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Their TV line is losing them more money than anything else.

TV line also happens to be an area they can't actually drop though. It sort of made them who they are in the first place. At least on this side of the world if I'm not mistaken.

Well then they need to get their shit together and either make better TVs or charge less for what they make.
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#55 V3rciS
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the best thing for sony as a company would be to let the playstation brand go. from what i understand, the ps brand is losing money.

AD216

you're stupid right? Playstation brand is one of the most profitable sections of SONY, without it's gaming department Sony might had even collapsed. Well an Empire can't collapse that easily but still it would be in a far worst situation! Sony understands that, that's why they've been investing into gaming even more. They totally reorganized their Playstation policy and strategy and are stronger than ever.

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#56 PraetorianMan
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That's what happens when you the bloat, slim down, reorganize, and head in a strong direction. Sony was simply not focusing on its strengths and trying to be too diverse for its own good. The leaders recognized that and have been cutting the fat. 

Wasdie
Not quite. Sony hasn't cut their god-awful TV or cell phone divisions yet.
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#57 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="jsmoke03"] agreed but i think they still have a long way to go. they need to let go of the camera's in the u.s. region imo and they cut out a lot of their failing businessDarkLink77

They need to let go of phones too. They need to focus on their TV line and their entertainment lines. 

Their TV line is losing them more money than anything else.

There is a lot of money and stablity in TVs if they can get their line to sell well. I think it's worth the investement. 

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#58 super600  Moderator
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They got lucky.

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#59 clyde46
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

That's what happens when you the bloat, slim down, reorganize, and head in a strong direction. Sony was simply not focusing on its strengths and trying to be too diverse for its own good. The leaders recognized that and have been cutting the fat. 

jsmoke03
agreed but i think they still have a long way to go. they need to let go of the camera's in the u.s. region imo and they cut out a lot of their failing business

Why? Sony makes some of the best camera's in the world.
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#60 Zaibach
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="GamingGod999"] The Xperia Z has been doing incredibly well, with a report indicating it's achieved 4.6 million sales in just 40 days.

GamingGod999

and has a lot of stellar reviews, if I do get a smartphone soon it will be an xperia Z

It does look stellar.

But my iPhone is satisfying enough (for now). :P

yh, but is your iphone water-proof? ;)

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#61 Suppaman100
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I don't understand that their tv's don't sell...
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#62 GamingGod999
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[QUOTE="GamingGod999"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]and has a lot of stellar reviews, if I do get a smartphone soon it will be an xperia Z

Zaibach

It does look stellar.

But my iPhone is satisfying enough (for now). :P

yh, but is your iphone water-proof? ;)

Lets test it out! :D

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#63 rrjim1
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Sure, great news, but they had to sell half there property to make it happen. Kind of funny if you ask me!

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#64 lamprey263
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this isn't good news for Sony, they sold two buildings for $2.3 billion, they didn't actually close the gap between their expenses and their revenues, so that's $2.3 billion that won't be around next year
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#65 NFJSupreme
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[QUOTE="FireEmblem74"][QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

Sounds like Kaz is a much better ceo than ol' ken.

tyloss

to be determined..... their boost last quarter (Q4 2012) was the sale of some of their biggest assets.

No it wasn't Sony's assets are more than Microsoft's at 160 billion+.

 

and thier liabilities are 135+ billion. Compare that to Microsoft who has 121+ billion in assets and only 54 billion in liabilities.  Microsoft has more money to play with by substantial amount. 

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#66 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="GamingGod999"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]and has a lot of stellar reviews, if I do get a smartphone soon it will be an xperia Z

Zaibach

It does look stellar.

But my iPhone is satisfying enough (for now). :P

yh, but is your iphone water-proof? ;)

Having to constantly keep all the ports plugged up is just annoying. I was initally impressed by the Xperia z, but after readings peoples impressions after a months use, it seems its falls short.
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#67 WeepsForFools
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Now convert that to dollars. $402 million.. and that's because they sold two headquarters.. yep, of course cows think it's great when you don't actually think about what's happening. Or read.
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#68 fernandmondego_
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Now convert that to dollars. $402 million.. and that's because they sold two headquarters.. yep, of course cows think it's great when you don't actually think about what's happening. Or read. WeepsForFools
And 152M worth of shares in M3.
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It was way less to do with the PS4 and more to do with their mobile products and other electronics.  

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[QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]

[QUOTE="Karpetburnz"]"bu bu but Sony is doomed" :lol:Its good to see Sony making some good profits.Newhopes

no ones doomed lol the irony

With out selling off asserts Sony would have lost $2-3 billion.

There's really no way to tell that. The upkeep of those assets affect operating costs but selling off assets doesn't only directly affect revenue. Sony isn't going to generate an extra $2-3 billion in revenue this year. The selling off of assets could affect revenue slightly but it also affects things like cash, liabilities etc. But as someone in this thread before, its primarily to due the yen being devalued to increase competition against Korean and Taiwanese tech companies.
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#71 lostrib
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So is this for the entire company?

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#72 Nonstop-Madness
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So is this for the entire company?

lostrib
yes but for a company that lost $6B last fiscal year, I would say that's a pretty good start.
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#73 clyde46
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

So is this for the entire company?

Nonstop-Madness
yes but for a company that lost $6B last fiscal year, I would say that's a pretty good start.

Least Sony have seen where their problems lie and are making moves to fix things.
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#74 percech
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I'm happy that Sony got a profit out of selling their company buildings. Praise Sony...
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I'm happy that Sony got a profit out of selling their company buildings. Praise Sony...percech
That is one reason why you have asserts.
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#76 Newhopes
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[QUOTE="Newhopes"]

[QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]no ones doomed lol the irony

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With out selling off asserts Sony would have lost $2-3 billion.

There's really no way to tell that. The upkeep of those assets affect operating costs but selling off assets doesn't only directly affect revenue. Sony isn't going to generate an extra $2-3 billion in revenue this year. The selling off of assets could affect revenue slightly but it also affects things like cash, liabilities etc. But as someone in this thread before, its primarily to due the yen being devalued to increase competition against Korean and Taiwanese tech companies.

 

From what we know Sony sold 2 buildings for around $2.3 billion they also sold Share's in other companies worth about $1 billion, they posted roughly $400 million profit that makes roughly $2.7 billion loss for the year without selling those asserts.

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#78 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="jsmoke03"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

That's what happens when you the bloat, slim down, reorganize, and head in a strong direction. Sony was simply not focusing on its strengths and trying to be too diverse for its own good. The leaders recognized that and have been cutting the fat. 

Wasdie

agreed but i think they still have a long way to go. they need to let go of the camera's in the u.s. region imo and they cut out a lot of their failing business

They need to let go of phones too. They need to focus on their TV line and their entertainment lines. 

Actually Xperia Z and ZL are doing very good in Japan, europe and middle east its a good start for SONY they were finally able to make a decent phone if they continue with this trend I can see them standing behind Samsung and Apple very soon when it comes to smartphones marketshare. 

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#79 lamprey263
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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"][QUOTE="Newhopes"]

With out selling off asserts Sony would have lost $2-3 billion.

Newhopes

There's really no way to tell that. The upkeep of those assets affect operating costs but selling off assets doesn't only directly affect revenue. Sony isn't going to generate an extra $2-3 billion in revenue this year. The selling off of assets could affect revenue slightly but it also affects things like cash, liabilities etc. But as someone in this thread before, its primarily to due the yen being devalued to increase competition against Korean and Taiwanese tech companies.

 

From what we know Sony sold 2 buildings for around $2.3 billion they also sold Share's in other companies worth about $1 billion, they posted roughly $400 million profit that makes roughly $2.7 billion loss for the year without selling those asserts.

$2.3 billion from two buildings, $1.2 billion from M3 shares, that's $3.5 billion, with a profit of $400 million that would make their loss $3.1 billion without the sales of those assets.
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#80 stereointegrity
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only because they are stuck with ATT......truth be told id rather have the xperia Z then my note 2
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#81 HAZE-Unit
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I don't understand that their tv's don't sell...Suppaman100

Because Koreans are doing it with cheaper prices thats why. Japan's labour, economy is higher overall so when they produce a product it costs companies there more than in Korea.

That's why when you see the same HDTVs from Samsung and Sony with a big difference in prices and that's killing their business in TV.

That's why Korean products are the cheapest between brands, you get the same quality and features ( not always ) with cheaper prices. The end consumer doesn't know why Sony products are freaking expensive so why go for the Sony TV when I got a cheaper LG/Samsung TV with the same quality?

That's why Koreans are killing it with electronics against the Japanese and that's why they are also slowly coming on top dominating the cars industry against the Japanese too.

It's also Japan's part of being stagnant overall in creativity and innovation over the last several years.

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#82 NoirLamia777
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Wow postive news, that's awesome.