Sony had to play some SERIOUS catchup this gen...

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[QUOTE="slvrraven9"] 1. you may not have any interest in Motion control but sony felt it was important enough to invest in (its not just about your interest) 2. see point 1, but change motion with trophies 3. enough people complained that sony AGAIN contradicted themselves when they said that rumble was last gen. so it MUST be an important issue.. 4. 77 million people potentialy play online on the psn and roughly 50 million for the xbl.....whether YOU do or dont is not the issue slvrraven9

You're missing my point... none of those 'issues' concern me.

These issues need to be applied to show they affect gamers. I have negated your points by showing you that to some people these issues aren't even set-backs.

this isnt about YOU!! its about Sony and MS and Ninty...PC to some extent i guess..slvrraven9

What I was trying to say is I think it is the opposite, Microsoft has the catching up to do. Is the PS3 leaps and bounds above the 360? No, but it is the superior console in my opinion. My opinion is based on facts, but that doesn`t necissarilymean I am right. I may not have written it in the format you wanted, but I am pretty shure you got what I meant. as far as what they can do to improve next gen? I could spend hours on the subject. More of the same only upgraded is what it would all come down to. When it comes to each companies short comings... Well heine sight is 20/20. If they knew the existing problems were going to exist, they would have taken care of them, now it is to late. I hve to give Microsoft props for fixing what they could through the 360 slim though.

More Exclusives ?:P

_VenomX

Already there. The XBOX 360 has the least exclusives out of all the consoles, the Wii and the PS3. The PC is just dead, nobody wants to play the PC because of modders and declining interest. That's why PC gets games last, a few exclusives isn't gonna change that. The 360 after this year is gonna do the catching up because exclusives like Metal Gear Solid, Twisted Metal, KZ3, and LittleBigPlanet are pushing the PS3 forward.. the major hack and outage isn't :x

why would they change the ps3 control, is one of the best controls ever

...??? and 360 had to play MAJOR catch up with just installing standard wif-fi on their system. just saying.

Chris_Williams

I dunno, I think Sony's biggest mistake was control of costs this generation. It translated into that high initial price point of the console (while still being sold at a huge loss), much lower than expected sales and, as a result, faltered 3rd party support (loss of exclusivity or loss of titles all together).

I personally find the PS3 controller to be the most comfortable controller to date. Which, to me, is important because all home consoles, in a general sense, are the same besides graphical power, load times, exclusive games, and controller devices (the big 4 differentiating factors for home consoles).

All in all though, Sony has done a remarkable job of turning around their nose dive start into this generation. Though going forward, into next gen, looks to be very perilous on the cost side of things. Offering something unique (exclusives, controllers) is going to be much more important than offering marginally improved graphics.

Which is why I am excited for the PSP2, It is going to be the first portable device with dual analog sticks, dual touch surfaces, and looks to be an overall polished piece of hardware with a lot of 3rd party support.

For the 8th gen, I am a little uncertain about Nintendo at this point. The have done a great job up until recently with faltered 3rd party support on the Wii, and lack luster launch of the 3DS. They have made some questionable choices on the 3DS's design, from not including a second touch screen instead of a 3D screen (choosing visuals over gameplay), to not including a second analog slider after having plenty of time to learn from the MANY PSP complaints, to not launching with a must have title (Mario, Link, anything good? please? why not?). Lets just hope they do something compelling with "Project Cafe".

Microsoft, on the other hand, hasn't done much to impress me as a consumer; they always seems to do a so-so job their products, except windows 7 (that is an exceptionally good product).

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All I can say is next gen Sony sure as hell better update their controller. The DS3 is so un-ergonomic compared to the 360's controller it's not even funny. Sony needs to take a risk and put out a newer, updated controller.Papadrach

Why change something that's not broken...?

I own both systems, but when it comes to multiplatform games, a lot of people including myself get them for the 360 because of the controller. I think the DS3 was designed for small hands and the stick layout is awkward.

They should keep the DS3 (or something like it) for people who prefer it, but having options would be nice. I love my PS3 and would like to enjoy it more.

All I can say is next gen Sony sure as hell better update their controller. The DS3 is so un-ergonomic compared to the 360's controller it's not even funny. Sony needs to take a risk and put out a newer, updated controller.

Vari3ty

All I can say is next gen Sony sure as hell better update their controller. The DS3 is so un-ergonomic compared to the 360's controller it's not even funny. Sony needs to take a risk and put out a newer, updated controller.

Vari3ty

its actually not if you've ever done ergonomics and what it means

It feels perfectly fine in ones hands, aswell as being able to be held by the 5th to 95th percentile comfortably which is the primary objective of the controller.As long as the controller does its job and people arent having widespread problems like the original xbox theres no need for an overhaul which costs money and a LOT of it.

Dunno how the 360 controller is magically now more ergonomic when its essentially the same design as their last gen controller S only slightly changed.

So this is console innovasion? controller gimmicks and arbitrary virtual rewards?