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#1 Michael324
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Not even 6 years after entering the market they have dethrowned Sony and being emulated by them. We X360 owners could do 2.40 stuff on launch day! We have more AAAs!!!! We have better online! We have the better controllers! We had rumble since launch! and they have............Blu ray
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#2 st1ka
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and the point of this thread is?
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#3 Michael324
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and the point of this thread is?st1ka
My fanboyish rant of the day in all it's glory!
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outrageous.
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and the point of this thread is?st1ka

troll and make tc sleep better at night

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[QUOTE="st1ka"]and the point of this thread is?Conjuredevil

troll and make tc sleep better at night

Troll a corporation NOT PEOPLE!
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#7 EmperorSupreme
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MS also has DRMd games, download caps for titles and a yearly fee. MS also doesn't have dedicated servers, an Internet browser or remote play. Microsoft is far from perfect themselves. Both offer features that the other doesn't have it's just that right now Sony is adding more than Microsoft is.

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#8 Conjuredevil
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[QUOTE="Conjuredevil"]

[QUOTE="st1ka"]and the point of this thread is?Michael324

troll and make tc sleep better at night

Troll a corporation NOT PEOPLE!

then you must be the CEO in that corporation

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#9 WilliamRLBaker
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sorry no, microsoft was never being lead by sony, Microsoft was all ways doing stuff sony never even thought of, and sony finally learned to start copying them instead of copying just nintendo.
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#10 Michael324
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Besides the top scentence and the bottom one I just simply stated FACTS!
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#11 flowdee79
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This had the potential to be a good thread but you destroyed it with your fanboyish ramblings.
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#12 Michael324
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This had the potential to be a good thread but you destroyed it with your fanboyish ramblings.flowdee79
After yesterday sony needs to be bashed and not with dignity but with what they DESERVE!
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#13 Michael324
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sorry no, microsoft was never being lead by sony, Microsoft was all ways doing stuff sony never even thought of, and sony finally learned to start copying them instead of copying just nintendo.WilliamRLBaker
TRUE.
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#14 ragek1ll589
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That's what businesses do, they copy and steal ideas from their competitors. Sony does it, Microsoft does it, everyone does it.
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MS OWNZ! Not even 6 years after entering the market they have dethrowned Sony and being emulated by them. We X360 owners could do 2.40 stuff on launch day! We have more AAAs!!!! We have better online! We have the better controllers! We had rumble since launch! and they have............Blu rayMichael324

And the 360 also has a 33% failure rate since launch day! Must feel great about that! 8D

You say you have more AAA games, but just how many of those are exclusive to only the 360 anymore?

The PS3 has two 10/10 games to the 360's one, which is also on the PS3.

Xbox LIVE works just as good as PSN, but people think it's better due to the downloadable content it offers, when the PS3 has a freaking web browser, and can download ANYTHING off the internet.

Your controllers are in no way "better", but if you personally prefer them over the PS3's, that's your "opinion".

Rumble is a widely overrated addition to controllers. When I have it, I hardly notice it anyways. I will admit having rumble is better then no rumble, but it's like saying you have 4 skittles to my 3....not enough to make a big deal about. And while I'm on the whole controller subject, might I add that the SIXAXIS comes with a build in battery, that Sony will replace if it ever died. I'd say that counts for something.

And about the whole "Sony is copying Microsoft", yeah, so what? Why not have the perks of both the PS3 AND the 360? That in no way sounds like a bad idea to me, and I fully endorse sharing the ideas from other companies. It only makes the console better through time.

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[QUOTE="flowdee79"]This had the potential to be a good thread but you destroyed it with your fanboyish ramblings.Michael324
After yesterday sony needs to be bashed and not with dignity but with what they DESERVE!

Please explain to me what happened yesterday that Sony should be bashed? Because all I saw was Sony offer free service to it's users.

Although the thing they offered had a small percentage of PS3's bugged (look at the responds in the story, and you will see a ton of people post that theor 2.40 update works fine), Sony did the right thing, and took the update off, and started working on fixing the bug right away. And might I remind you, it is FREE SERVICE. At least when they fix a bug they unleashed, they actually make it go away *cough*RROD*cough*

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MS also has DRMd games, download caps for titles and a yearly fee. MS also doesn't have dedicated servers, an Internet browser or remote play. Microsoft is far from perfect themselves. Both offer features that the other doesn't have it's just that right now Sony is adding more than Microsoft is.

EmperorSupreme

actually you will probably find the PS3 only has a handful of games that have dedicated servers most are P2P, but just to fill you in the 360 has games with dedicated servers as well.

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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

MS also has DRMd games, download caps for titles and a yearly fee. MS also doesn't have dedicated servers, an Internet browser or remote play. Microsoft is far from perfect themselves. Both offer features that the other doesn't have it's just that right now Sony is adding more than Microsoft is.

boyinfridge

actually you will probably find the PS3 only has a handful of games that have dedicated servers most are P2P, but just to fill you in the 360 has games with dedicated servers as well.

Even so,both are free on the PSN.

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Lol if u see the xbox controllers they almost look like the ps3s they just change things

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[QUOTE="Michael324"]MS OWNZ! Not even 6 years after entering the market they have dethrowned Sony and being emulated by them. We X360 owners could do 2.40 stuff on launch day! We have more AAAs!!!! We have better online! We have the better controllers! We had rumble since launch! and they have............Blu rayxYamatox

And the 360 also has a 33% failure rate since launch day! Must feel great about that! 8D

You say you have more AAA games, but just how many of those are exclusive to only the 360 anymore?

The PS3 has two 10/10 games to the 360's one, which is also on the PS3.

Xbox LIVE works just as good as PSN, but people think it's better due to the downloadable content it offers, when the PS3 has a freaking web browser, and can download ANYTHING off the internet.

Your controllers are in no way "better", but if you personally prefer them over the PS3's, that's your "opinion".

Rumble is a widely overrated addition to controllers. When I have it, I hardly notice it anyways. I will admit having rumble is better then no rumble, but it's like saying you have 4 skittles to my 3....not enough to make a big deal about. And while I'm on the whole controller subject, might I add that the SIXAXIS comes with a build in battery, that Sony will replace if it ever died. I'd say that counts for something.

And about the whole "Sony is copying Microsoft", yeah, so what? Why not have the perks of both the PS3 AND the 360? That in no way sounds like a bad idea to me, and I fully endorse sharing the ideas from other companies. It only makes the console better through time.

Rumble is only overrated to those who don't have it. 360 online is far superior to PSN. Downloadable content, demos, in game music replacement, and more. Also updates for the console don't brick the system. The 360 controller IS better and won't cause thumb cramps as easily. PS3 has two 10/10 games, one of whic is on the 360. But the rest of the collection of PS3 games are garbage and should never have been invented. Sorry, one game does not make it teh best consolz everz. An entire collection of games with MANY of them 9/10 is a much greater collection than two 10/10 games and a bunch of 2/10 games. Oh and yea, that 33% failure rate is already 1.5 years old, and is no longer a valid number as more consoles have sold with less RROD problems, meaning that number has dropped. You, Mr. PS3 fanboy, need to stop shooting numbers that are out dated. If you want to complain about failure rates, you need to talk about how sony has already had 2, count them, TWO firmware updates that caused mass bricking. Even if they say its only a minor few, if you see more than one post on gamespot then its not minor, since many who get the problem aren't on this web site, and even those who are, many may not hav eposted about it. I'm betting the failure rate of this update is probably around 20-30% itself. Sony copies everything they see, and half assed. Sixaxis (copied from nintendo) failed. Bluray (to compete with hddvd) won the war, but failed for gaming with slow read speeds. XMB in game music (copied from MS) failed. Trophies (copied from MS) also failed, as no games support that crap. Sony even implemented a hard drive which MS had last generation. Oh and when you install 8 games at 5gb/game, you have a 40gb hard drive full to the brim. Sony has done nothing but stumble from one road block to the next this generation. Where as MS had one major problem and wokred to fix it. But the features it had implemented from DAY ONE have always far outweighed the features ps3 offered, even to this day.
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Not even 6 years after entering the market they have dethrowned Sony and being emulated by them. We X360 owners could do 2.40 stuff on launch day! We have more AAAs!!!! We have better online! We have the better controllers! We had rumble since launch! and they have............Blu rayMichael324

Dethroned? Last I checked, the PS3 has been outselling the 360 world wide since launch, AND it has outsold the 360 in its main region (NA) for the last 4/5 months so far this year.

Saying the 360 has dethroned anything is like saying smoeone having a headstart in a race is winning while completely ignoring the fact that the person "losing" is actually running a much faster time.

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PS3 owners have something other than Blu Ray, it's a little something called 'their own opinion'. You might have heard of it but it can render everything that you like and think obsolete to them.
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Not even 6 years after entering the market they have dethrowned Sony and being emulated by them. We X360 owners could do 2.40 stuff on launch day! We have more AAAs!!!! We have better online! We have the better controllers! We had rumble since launch! and they have............Blu rayMichael324

That part about the controllers is purely opinion.

Anyways, Some Sony fanboy could argue :

We Have WiFi out of the box

We Have Blu-Ray

We HAVE an AAAAE.

We have Play and Charge Kits for Free

We have Free Online since Day One.

Honestly, can't you just enjoy your console without bashing theirs. They are both great machines, I have BOTH, I would know.

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#24 LEGEND_C4A
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[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

[QUOTE="Michael324"]MS OWNZ! Not even 6 years after entering the market they have dethrowned Sony and being emulated by them. We X360 owners could do 2.40 stuff on launch day! We have more AAAs!!!! We have better online! We have the better controllers! We had rumble since launch! and they have............Blu rayCipher92

And the 360 also has a 33% failure rate since launch day! Must feel great about that! 8D

You say you have more AAA games, but just how many of those are exclusive to only the 360 anymore?

The PS3 has two 10/10 games to the 360's one, which is also on the PS3.

Xbox LIVE works just as good as PSN, but people think it's better due to the downloadable content it offers, when the PS3 has a freaking web browser, and can download ANYTHING off the internet.

Your controllers are in no way "better", but if you personally prefer them over the PS3's, that's your "opinion".

Rumble is a widely overrated addition to controllers. When I have it, I hardly notice it anyways. I will admit having rumble is better then no rumble, but it's like saying you have 4 skittles to my 3....not enough to make a big deal about. And while I'm on the whole controller subject, might I add that the SIXAXIS comes with a build in battery, that Sony will replace if it ever died. I'd say that counts for something.

And about the whole "Sony is copying Microsoft", yeah, so what? Why not have the perks of both the PS3 AND the 360? That in no way sounds like a bad idea to me, and I fully endorse sharing the ideas from other companies. It only makes the console better through time.

Rumble is only overrated to those who don't have it. 360 online is far superior to PSN. Downloadable content, demos, in game music replacement, and more. Also updates for the console don't brick the system. The 360 controller IS better and won't cause thumb cramps as easily. PS3 has two 10/10 games, one of whic is on the 360. But the rest of the collection of PS3 games are garbage and should never have been invented. Sorry, one game does not make it teh best consolz everz. An entire collection of games with MANY of them 9/10 is a much greater collection than two 10/10 games and a bunch of 2/10 games. Oh and yea, that 33% failure rate is already 1.5 years old, and is no longer a valid number as more consoles have sold with less RROD problems, meaning that number has dropped. You, Mr. PS3 fanboy, need to stop shooting numbers that are out dated. If you want to complain about failure rates, you need to talk about how sony has already had 2, count them, TWO firmware updates that caused mass bricking. Even if they say its only a minor few, if you see more than one post on gamespot then its not minor, since many who get the problem aren't on this web site, and even those who are, many may not hav eposted about it. I'm betting the failure rate of this update is probably around 20-30% itself. Sony copies everything they see, and half assed. Sixaxis (copied from nintendo) failed. Bluray (to compete with hddvd) won the war, but failed for gaming with slow read speeds. XMB in game music (copied from MS) failed. Trophies (copied from MS) also failed, as no games support that crap. Sony even implemented a hard drive which MS had last generation. Oh and when you install 8 games at 5gb/game, you have a 40gb hard drive full to the brim. Sony has done nothing but stumble from one road block to the next this generation. Where as MS had one major problem and wokred to fix it. But the features it had implemented from DAY ONE have always far outweighed the features ps3 offered, even to this day.

:shock: mr. xYamatox, your rebuttal please :oops:

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Ok, your so wrong. Sony users have had rumble before there was a MS system. The only reason it wasn't implemented was because of a lawsuit that sony had. But now it is back.

MS controller does not make your thumbs cramp. LOL. Do you play shooters at all. Having my thumbs play at a vertical angle would hurt all day long.

As for the games, you guys did have good games. However, it looks worse every year for MS. Gears is the only good game you have to look forward to the rest of this year that is a console exclusive. PS3, RFOM 2, Socom, Little Big Planet. They even had to push Killzone 2 back to 2009 because there was too much coming out this fall.

Failure rate. Yes it went down. Can't lie about that. I mean after they spent $1 Billion on fixing the issue, it should be non-existent but its not. PS3 had minor issues with those two firmware updates, minor. Yes minor. No one spend $1 Billion to fix those issues.

Sony copies everyone. LOL. Sixaxis was not copied from Nintendo. Nintendo has full motion control not Sixaxis.

Nvrmind. I am done. You guys kill me.

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[QUOTE="Michael324"]Not even 6 years after entering the market they have dethrowned Sony and being emulated by them. We X360 owners could do 2.40 stuff on launch day! We have more AAAs!!!! We have better online! We have the better controllers! We had rumble since launch! and they have............Blu rayZIMdoom

Dethroned? Last I checked, the PS3 has been outselling the 360 world wide since launch, AND it has outsold the 360 in its main region (NA) for the last 4/5 months so far this year.

Saying the 360 has dethroned anything is like saying smoeone having a headstart in a race is winning while completely ignoring the fact that the person "losing" is actually running a much faster time.

that doesn't make sense dude, even if you are running slower, you can still win the race? so yes you can ignore the fact that someone else is faster than you if you pass the finish line first, the fastest or the best don't always win, so please use something else to explain what you mean.

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[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

[QUOTE="Michael324"]Not even 6 years after entering the market they have dethrowned Sony and being emulated by them. We X360 owners could do 2.40 stuff on launch day! We have more AAAs!!!! We have better online! We have the better controllers! We had rumble since launch! and they have............Blu rayLEGEND_C4A

Dethroned? Last I checked, the PS3 has been outselling the 360 world wide since launch, AND it has outsold the 360 in its main region (NA) for the last 4/5 months so far this year.

Saying the 360 has dethroned anything is like saying smoeone having a headstart in a race is winning while completely ignoring the fact that the person "losing" is actually running a much faster time.

that doesn't make sense dude, even if you are running slower, you can still win the race? so yes you can ignore the fact that someone else is faster than you if you pass the finish line first, the fastest or the best don't always win, so please use something else to explain what you mean.

If you knew anything about races, it goes by time. The best time wins. You may have noticed that in longer races, the runners are staggered and create the appearance of being ahead...only once they make it past the final turn does the truth come out and you see who is REALLY the better runner.

Just because you are in front of the pack, doesn't mean you are winning. You may have just been lapped.

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Ok, your so wrong. Sony users have had rumble before there was a MS system. The only reason it wasn't implemented was because of a lawsuit that sony had. But now it is back.

MS controller does not make your thumbs cramp. LOL. Do you play shooters at all. Having my thumbs play at a vertical angle would hurt all day long.

As for the games, you guys did have good games. However, it looks worse every year for MS. Gears is the only good game you have to look forward to the rest of this year that is a console exclusive. PS3, RFOM 2, Socom, Little Big Planet. They even had to push Killzone 2 back to 2009 because there was too much coming out this fall.

Failure rate. Yes it went down. Can't lie about that. I mean after they spent $1 Billion on fixing the issue, it should be non-existent but its not. PS3 had minor issues with those two firmware updates, minor. Yes minor. No one spend $1 Billion to fix those issues.

Sony copies everyone. LOL. Sixaxis was not copied from Nintendo. Nintendo has full motion control not Sixaxis.

Nvrmind. I am done. You guys kill me.

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your fingers cramp? only problem I have is my left thumb gets sore cause I have a bad habit of pressing on the damn thing to hard, thats me, not a problem with the controls.

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Well, these topics are always fun, right? :roll:
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Rumble is only overrated to those who don't have it. 360 online is far superior to PSN. Downloadable content, demos, in game music replacement, and more. Also updates for the console don't brick the system.Cipher92

:lol: Going forward, that is going to be a key bullet in every argument against the PS3. Sorny handed out more ammunition. I wonder what they'll give us next?

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Well from this topic i learned alot about PS3s and Xbox360s :lol: about the sixaxis copying nintendo wtf? when was wireless controllers considered copying someone else? Also, about the rumble Sony had it since the play station one :lol: and that was like 5 years before Microsoft made the xbox. anyways these are the only points from other people i can currently respond too ._.
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Dont act like MS is original, MS stole almost all of its features for DOS from Unix...

MS stole the mouse from Xerox and GUI interface idea from Apple. MS has been stealing ideas from everyone since day one.

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Not even 6 years after entering the market they have dethrowned Sony and being emulated by them.
We X360 owners could do 2.40 stuff on launch day! - Big deal. PC gamers could do it from the beginning. It's called minimizing. Steam also has achievements, and MS did not invent the concept of achievements.
We have more AAAs!!!! - So? We have more AAAAs!!!!
We have better online! - How so? Is your online gaming experience better? I don't think so. If you're talking about service, yeah but you have to pay for it. If you're talking about gaming, it's the same/PSN is sometimes better where dedicated servers are used in games like Warhawk and Resistance giving the ability to have a high number of players.
We have the better controllers! - Opinion =/= Fact
We had rumble since launch! - Want a cookie? Did MS invent rumble since you say Sony is copying MS? Sony was finishing up with their lawsuit that's why it took them this long.
and they have............Blu ray - This is a positive. Great games, great online, Blu-Ray. Why bad?Michael324

:lol: Oh man I love these fanboys :P

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Ok, your so wrong. Sony users have had rumble before there was a MS system. The only reason it wasn't implemented was because of a lawsuit that sony had. But now it is back.

MS controller does not make your thumbs cramp. LOL. Do you play shooters at all. Having my thumbs play at a vertical angle would hurt all day long.

As for the games, you guys did have good games. However, it looks worse every year for MS. Gears is the only good game you have to look forward to the rest of this year that is a console exclusive. PS3, RFOM 2, Socom, Little Big Planet. They even had to push Killzone 2 back to 2009 because there was too much coming out this fall.

Failure rate. Yes it went down. Can't lie about that. I mean after they spent $1 Billion on fixing the issue, it should be non-existent but its not. PS3 had minor issues with those two firmware updates, minor. Yes minor. No one spend $1 Billion to fix those issues.

Sony copies everyone. LOL. Sixaxis was not copied from Nintendo. Nintendo has full motion control not Sixaxis.

Nvrmind. I am done. You guys kill me.

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I never said MS controllers give you cramps, i said PS controllers do. Let's see what you have to say about the MS lineup after E3, seeing as that seems to be "announcement week" for most major brand developers. I play shooters a lot, and a vertical angle for the thumb is the most comfortable as it follows the natural line of your tendants in your arm and hand. MS had to spend 1 billion dollars (not much for MS technically) to fix a problem they caused... but they DID spend that money to fix it when they really didn't have to. So thats by no means a bad thing. In fact, it's very nice knowing a company will stand up for it's mistakes. Rumble was in N64 before sony had it. The lawsuit goes to show how shady they are when copying and 'stealing' technologies. For people who got their ps3 bricked, it's not minor to all, som epeople woulndn't know what to do if that happened to them, thats major. Sorry but yu can't sit there nd tell me that sony's mess up is not affecting anyone because it is. And why didnt you mention any responses to the crappy bluray speeds, oor game collection, or other things i mentioned... because they were too true they blew your mind?
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#35 snorlaxmaster
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Without the PS brand there would be no "Xbox" nuff' said.......

Oh and...

WE have better controllers

WE have free online

Oh and one more thing, WE have MGS4. :P

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#36 st1ka
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Without the PS brand there would be no "Xbox" nuff' said.......

Oh and...

WE have better controllers

WE have free online

Oh and one more thing, WE have MGS4. :Psnorlaxmaster

who is this "we"?

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#37 Gl0ry_L0rd
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You got it switched up. M$ is the one copying Sony.

When Sony had blu-ray player, Microsoft released a HD-DVD addon. Everyone knows blu-ray has won the format war, people who don't think so are probably narrowminded lems.

When Sony's PS3 came with a HDMI port 1.3, MS released all their newer consoles with a HDMI port 1.2. Still not better than 1.3.

Microsoft copied the idea of a Home Button, because the PSP came out before the 360 and had this Home button.

Everyone that is a true gamer knows the Playstation brand is the superior brand in gaming historically, right now, and in the future.

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#38 DJCUEBALL
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MS has copied everything for 24+ years. That's just how businesses work. Get over it.
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#39 sireclaborn
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[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"][QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

[QUOTE="Michael324"]Not even 6 years after entering the market they have dethrowned Sony and being emulated by them. We X360 owners could do 2.40 stuff on launch day! We have more AAAs!!!! We have better online! We have the better controllers! We had rumble since launch! and they have............Blu rayZIMdoom

Dethroned? Last I checked, the PS3 has been outselling the 360 world wide since launch, AND it has outsold the 360 in its main region (NA) for the last 4/5 months so far this year.

Saying the 360 has dethroned anything is like saying smoeone having a headstart in a race is winning while completely ignoring the fact that the person "losing" is actually running a much faster time.

that doesn't make sense dude, even if you are running slower, you can still win the race? so yes you can ignore the fact that someone else is faster than you if you pass the finish line first, the fastest or the best don't always win, so please use something else to explain what you mean.

If you knew anything about races, it goes by time. The best time wins. You may have noticed that in longer races, the runners are staggered and create the appearance of being ahead...only once they make it past the final turn does the truth come out and you see who is REALLY the better runner.

Just because you are in front of the pack, doesn't mean you are winning. You may have just been lapped.

good one

i noticed that too. the guy in front seems to be winning but before they reach the finish line the guy in back zooms in front of the guy in front. the guy who was in front lost all of his energy trying to be first in the beginning. kind of reminds of the console war but instead they're running for second place.

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Not even 6 years after entering the market they have dethrowned Sony and being emulated by them. We X360 owners could do 2.40 stuff on launch day! We have more AAAs!!!! We have better online! We have the better controllers! We had rumble since launch! and they have............Blu rayMichael324

Why has there been such a large influx of these ignorant comments on console manufacturers copying each other? This has been happening since the dawn of consoles. It's a little process called progress. When your competitor has a good idea, you'd be a fool not to incorporate it into your own product if you could. Every fanboy seems to be obsessed with martyring themselves on the alter of obliviousness by refusing to accept that these companies are run by BUSINESSMEN; and this decision is a smart business move. If Sony had come up with a sucessful idea, MS and Nintendo would be pretty quick to jump on the bandwagon, like say with using optical discs for games? (Btw, I say "successful idea, so no smarty pants better come in and say that the Sega CD did it first, because that was not sucessful, whereas the PS was).

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#41 CajunShooter
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I'm betting the failure rate of this update is probably around 20-30% itself.Cipher92

I would suggest you not bet to much because you are way off.

Sony copies everything they see, and half assed.

Sixaxis (copied from nintendo) failed.Cipher92

Sony had been working on motion technology early on in the PS2 life cycle. Anyway Nintendo didn't invent motion sensing

XMB in game music (copied from MS) failed.Cipher92

Not an original idea

Trophies (copied from MS) also failed,Cipher92

not an original idea

If you can name me one thing you use in your house that was 100% an original idea that was not based on a pre existing idea and then improved upon it I will give you $1000.

Everything you see and use around you on a daily basis has been an idea that has been perfected since the beginning of human existence. I am tired of hearing all of these cries about how people are stealing from each other.

Sony did not steal any thing. They took the idea of it and gave it their own touch. This is not stealing. Human existence are based on these concepts of taking what someone else has done and improving it or making something that has evolved from that idea.

Funny how you complain so much about Sony stealing yet you don't mention anything about MS developing their own motion sensing controllers or how they are trying to come up with their own Mii like characters.

Yes some of these companies like MS may have been the first company to put a certain idea into a video game console, but they weren't the first to come up with those ideas.

But if you look at the big picture. The only reason that MS can even make a console is from taking the ideas of every console predecessor that came before it.

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[QUOTE="Michael324"]MS OWNZ! Not even 6 years after entering the market they have dethrowned Sony and being emulated by them. We X360 owners could do 2.40 stuff on launch day! We have more AAAs!!!! We have better online! We have the better controllers! We had rumble since launch! and they have............Blu rayxYamatox

And the 360 also has a 33% failure rate since launch day! Must feel great about that! 8D

You say you have more AAA games, but just how many of those are exclusive to only the 360 anymore?

The PS3 has two 10/10 games to the 360's one, which is also on the PS3.

Xbox LIVE works just as good as PSN, but people think it's better due to the downloadable content it offers, when the PS3 has a freaking web browser, and can download ANYTHING off the internet.

Your controllers are in no way "better", but if you personally prefer them over the PS3's, that's your "opinion".

Rumble is a widely overrated addition to controllers. When I have it, I hardly notice it anyways. I will admit having rumble is better then no rumble, but it's like saying you have 4 skittles to my 3....not enough to make a big deal about. And while I'm on the whole controller subject, might I add that the SIXAXIS comes with a build in battery, that Sony will replace if it ever died. I'd say that counts for something.

And about the whole "Sony is copying Microsoft", yeah, so what? Why not have the perks of both the PS3 AND the 360? That in no way sounds like a bad idea to me, and I fully endorse sharing the ideas from other companies. It only makes the console better through time.

I've notice that people try and use the DLC as a come back. I for 1 dont buy DLC, and I'm not gonna say most, buy a lot of people dont buy DLC. And you're right, when you can download anything you want onto the PS3, who cares about DLC that you have to pay for.

Rumble, again a lot of people dont notice it.

Rechareable controller; The 360 fan act like this is no big deal any try and diss the 12" cable it comes with, I work in IT, so I can get longer cables, so can anyone else, so thats a non-issues.

Sony is still leading Microsoft in console features. This topic is about features.

Bluetooth, first used in the PS3

HDMI, first used in the PS3

USB, first used in the PS2

Handheld connect to system wireless, first used in PS3.....the older DS's did not have WIFI built-in

Web browser, first used in Dreamcast,

On-Line play, first used on Dreamcast

Someone else can list what Microsoft started, I'll list one

A hard drive......but the PS2 always had a spot for a hard drive, it just was not being used.

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#43 CubanBlunt
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[QUOTE="Michael324"][QUOTE="flowdee79"]This had the potential to be a good thread but you destroyed it with your fanboyish ramblings.xYamatox

After yesterday sony needs to be bashed and not with dignity but with what they DESERVE!

Please explain to me what happened yesterday that Sony should be bashed? Because all I saw was Sony offer free service to it's users.

Although the thing they offered had a small percentage of PS3's bugged (look at the responds in the story, and you will see a ton of people post that theor 2.40 update works fine), Sony did the right thing, and took the update off, and started working on fixing the bug right away. And might I remind you, it is FREE SERVICE. At least when they fix a bug they unleashed, they actually make it go away *cough*RROD*cough*

Cant say the same for Microsoft, Christmas issue, RROD issue. Miscosoft also had a download that caused system to crash.

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#44 Cipher92
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[QUOTE="Cipher92"] I'm betting the failure rate of this update is probably around 20-30% itself.CajunShooter

I would suggest you not bet to much because you are way off.

Sony copies everything they see, and half assed.

Sixaxis (copied from nintendo) failed.Cipher92

Sony had been working on motion technology early on in the PS2 life cycle. Anyway Nintendo didn't invent motion sensing

XMB in game music (copied from MS) failed.Cipher92

Not an original idea

Trophies (copied from MS) also failed,Cipher92

not an original idea

If you can name me one thing you use in your house that was 100% an original idea that was not based on a pre existing idea and then improved upon it I will give you $1000.

Everything you see and use around you on a daily basis has been an idea that has been perfected since the beginning of human existence. I am tired of hearing all of these cries about how people are stealing from each other.

Sony did not steal any thing. They took the idea of it and gave it their own touch. This is not stealing. Human existence are based on these concepts of taking what someone else has done and improving it or making something that has evolved from that idea.

Funny how you complain so much about Sony stealing yet you don't mention anything about MS developing their own motion sensing controllers or how they are trying to come up with their own Mii like characters.

Yes some of these companies like MS may have been the first company to put a certain idea into a video game console, but they weren't the first to come up with those ideas.

But if you look at the big picture. The only reason that MS can even make a console is from taking the ideas of every console predecessor that came before it.

So, do you know the failure rate of ps3's based on this update? If not, then you have no basis to say i can't guess. Obviously it's not "way off" Sony has been working on sixaxis for a long time, and it failed huge. That only made my point stronger that sony can't do proper research. Nintendo had motion sensing components in research longer than sony anyways. In game musc is not an origianl idea? Ok, so tell me what other ocnsole before it had that feature? Oh, you mean someone thought of it first? Well, unfortunately for that person, they should be sueing MS, since MS beat them to market. First to the market = original idea. PS3 = last place again Trophies also are copied form unified achievments which IS ONLY available on teh 360 right now. That means it is in fact an "original idea" If you were to read my post correctly, you would see i never said thought up or invented by MS or nintendo in any way. Those companies made it to the market first. Sony was last, therefore they end up being the copier. That's the nature of the business, and my statements remain true. That special touch you refer to that sony adds... thats the touch of quality reduction. I can't 'complain' about microsofts motion sensing components, they havent released any actual info on it yet, ut sixaxis is already come and gone, dead and burried. Once more info comes about the MS piece, i'll look at it. For all we know, its a totally different take on the motion sensing idea. They look to me like they are adding new innovations, where as sony looks like they tacked on their equivelant version of already marketed ideas as to no miss out on games. Anyways, thats my reaponse to your message. you can think whatever you want, but the fact of the matter is that regardless of who thought up somethign first, when it makes ti to mass market and hte public sees items in their hands working, and then another product emerges with similar features, what do you think they will think? Obvisouyl that the new stuff is copied. That's why companies sue each other all the time over rights and damages.
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#45 Cipher92
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[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

[QUOTE="Michael324"][QUOTE="flowdee79"]This had the potential to be a good thread but you destroyed it with your fanboyish ramblings.CubanBlunt

After yesterday sony needs to be bashed and not with dignity but with what they DESERVE!

Please explain to me what happened yesterday that Sony should be bashed? Because all I saw was Sony offer free service to it's users.

Although the thing they offered had a small percentage of PS3's bugged (look at the responds in the story, and you will see a ton of people post that theor 2.40 update works fine), Sony did the right thing, and took the update off, and started working on fixing the bug right away. And might I remind you, it is FREE SERVICE. At least when they fix a bug they unleashed, they actually make it go away *cough*RROD*cough*

Cant say the same for Microsoft, Christmas issue, RROD issue. Miscosoft also had a download that caused system to crash.

The onyl downlaod microsft had that crashed anythign was that patch that bricked MODDED xbox's. so if you aren't referring to that, i think you are making it up.
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#46 CubanBlunt
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Lol if u see the xbox controllers they almost look like the ps3s they just change things

angel_0214

Microsoft copied the dreamcast controller.

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#47 Rage010101
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silly fanboys are chopping at this topic again? a weak one might i add since almost everything you posted was an opinion... you need facts to disprove someone you know...
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#48 CubanBlunt
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[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"][QUOTE="xYamatox"]

[QUOTE="Michael324"][QUOTE="flowdee79"]This had the potential to be a good thread but you destroyed it with your fanboyish ramblings.Cipher92

After yesterday sony needs to be bashed and not with dignity but with what they DESERVE!

Please explain to me what happened yesterday that Sony should be bashed? Because all I saw was Sony offer free service to it's users.

Although the thing they offered had a small percentage of PS3's bugged (look at the responds in the story, and you will see a ton of people post that theor 2.40 update works fine), Sony did the right thing, and took the update off, and started working on fixing the bug right away. And might I remind you, it is FREE SERVICE. At least when they fix a bug they unleashed, they actually make it go away *cough*RROD*cough*

Cant say the same for Microsoft, Christmas issue, RROD issue. Miscosoft also had a download that caused system to crash.

The onyl downlaod microsft had that crashed anythign was that patch that bricked MODDED xbox's. so if you aren't referring to that, i think you are making it up.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=25101615&sid=6160771

While Microsoft is staying mum on the subject, the bulk of speculation is that the Fall Update is intended to brick Xbox 360s that have been modded. However, some posters are reporting problems with unmodded consoles being bricked, and forum-goers at Xbox Scene are saying that the update is not consistently bricking modded consoles.

Now what did I make up? I dont even have a 360 anymore and I knew this.

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#49 kornbone
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lmao, if anything MS copied everything Sony when they went into the console wars. They copied the controller from the Dualshock, they copied motion sensing from Nintendo, they are about to come out with a **** Home like program.

The only thing that is unique to them are their hardware failures.

TLHBFR

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#50 Shadow4020
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=TSjxRnIGy7I

ps3 vid i found