Sony has marketing deals for the 4 BIGGEST games of the year, BIG trouble for Scorpio

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#101 csward
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@Dark_sageX: The devs/pubs agreed to these deals. To say it's extortion is ignorant. Third parties have most of the leverage here, not Sony or M$.

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#102 DrkeX
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Scorpio still gets the ultimate edition, with true 4k content while the PS4 gets the weaker of the two graphically.


I'll stick with Project Scorpio for now.

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#104 cainetao11
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@kinky-unikorn said:
@Legend002 said:
@cainetao11 said:
@Legend002 said:

The fact that PS4 also unloading a crapload of exclusives on top of this is amazing. There's no exclusives on Xbox and their multiplats sales will be subpar. It's not looking good for Xbox One. Hell that's been the case since launch.

This is some serious retardation. What exactly is par for multiplat sales? That must be stated before anyone can discover whether Xbox multiplat sales are "subpar". Obviously if 3rd parties are still releasing their games on the console then the sales numbers are good enough for these multiplats to release on it. You're talking bbbbb, here. Have fun marketing these games, I'll play on the superior console, with the best controller and online service on consoles.

holy crap this dude is mad!

Mmmm minor fluff content on the Playstation 4 or native 4K on Scorpio with these games...man...tough choice indeed...lmfao. Red Dead Redemption 2 will offer what; that the Scorpio won't get? Different types of cowboy outfits to use online? Maybe a "secret weapon"...lol. Nah I'm good, I'll stick with the better looking version...

Notice he had nothing to say anyway? Just some babybackballbagbullshit. Why would I be mad? I own both a Pro and an X1S. I have the option to buy these on PS I simply wont do it because I wont play an FPS with DS4 when I could play it with the better controller, better online network, my friends and stronger console this fall. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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#106 deactivated-5eb6f92daae05
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@cainetao11 said:
@kinky-unikorn said:
@Legend002 said:
@cainetao11 said:
@Legend002 said:

The fact that PS4 also unloading a crapload of exclusives on top of this is amazing. There's no exclusives on Xbox and their multiplats sales will be subpar. It's not looking good for Xbox One. Hell that's been the case since launch.

This is some serious retardation. What exactly is par for multiplat sales? That must be stated before anyone can discover whether Xbox multiplat sales are "subpar". Obviously if 3rd parties are still releasing their games on the console then the sales numbers are good enough for these multiplats to release on it. You're talking bbbbb, here. Have fun marketing these games, I'll play on the superior console, with the best controller and online service on consoles.

holy crap this dude is mad!

Mmmm minor fluff content on the Playstation 4 or native 4K on Scorpio with these games...man...tough choice indeed...lmfao. Red Dead Redemption 2 will offer what; that the Scorpio won't get? Different types of cowboy outfits to use online? Maybe a "secret weapon"...lol. Nah I'm good, I'll stick with the better looking version...

Notice he had nothing to say anyway? Just some babybackballbagbullshit. Why would I be mad? I own both a Pro and an X1S. I have the option to buy these on PS I simply wont do it because I wont play an FPS with DS4 when I could play it with the better controller, better online network, my friends and stronger console this fall. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeah, definitely not a fan of playing FPS with the Playstation 4 controller, not my style. And I always thought Xbox Live was superior to the Playstation Network as well.

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#107 Dark_sageX
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@csward said:

@Dark_sageX: The devs/pubs agreed to these deals. To say it's extortion is ignorant. Third parties have most of the leverage here, not Sony or M$.

The italian mobsters and russian mafia agreed that the average salary Chinese shop owner should pay 15% more for protection money in order to keep the peace, to say its extortion would be ignorant.

see what the problem is here? the chinese man does not benefit from this deal and is forced to abide by the rules of the russians and italians.

Now that I have that analogy out of the way, please explain to me how exclusivity benefits the GAMERS? and no, its Sony, Nintendo and MS that have the leverage here, they are the ones who pay devs to keep their games on their system and restrict their movements, once you are under a contract you cannot do anything without the consent of the contract dealer, who do you think decides whether an exclusive goes to another platform or not? Who decides whether Bayonetta 2 goes to other platforms or not, PG (the developers who IP'd and created the game) or nintendo (the ones who paid for it)?

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#108 tormentos
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In the world you live in the PS4 was basking in the glory of exclusives the first two years of its life. Call me when your world sync up with the rest of the us. When you start making nonsensical statements like the Xbox One sales drop to nothing, does it even makes sense trying to make a counter? Unless you are oblivious to the meaning of nothing then I can understand the misuse of the word. And what goal was set that was then moved? You think by placing the phrase "moving the goalpost" that somehow your points are made valid? Geeesh. Talk about spewing a bunch of nothing while slipping off the rails.

According to you lemmings scores don't matter so having exclusives vs having low scoring one is the problem here.

You claim the PS4 did not have exclusives.

Lets start at 2013.

Resogun

Killzone

Knack

Not that great bot those were exclusives,ignoring scores we are talking about 3 exclusives,bringing scores Resogun was higher rated than all PS4 and xbox one exclusives in 2013,that says allot an indie game beat Forza,DR3,Ryse,Killzone,Knack and even some 3rd party games as well.

But again lest ignore score what xbox one game sold 2.1 million copies from launch in just 2 months?

Forza 5 didn't..

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-one-racing-game-forza-5-sells-1-million-copies/1100-6417825/

It sold 1 million in 3 months basically on a 3 million + user base.

Meanwhile..

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/01/29/killzone-shadow-fall-sells-21-million-copies

Killzone SF sold 2.1 million in 2 months on a 4.2+ million user base.

So you may claim it didn't have exclusive but the true is half of those who got a PS4 on those 2 months got Killzone,that is a great sales ratio and show that killzone alone was carrying the weight despite the score.

But xbox one sales have drop horrible in some instance during this generation,and if we take into account that the xbox one doesn't mean US alone like you lemmings seem to think is even worse US doesn't equal the world in any form or shape.

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#109 tormentos
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@jtothamtothap said:

Silly man....I said the Scorpio will be the BETTER version between PS4/PS4 Pro. Also with the Scorpio the PC version will be better for some ( like me ) but not all.

@jtothamtothap said:

But Scorpio will have the better version lol....cows hyping marketing deals, Scorpio has em shook!

NO there is no PS4 vs Scorpio claim on your post.

You simply said Scorpio will have the BETTER version..

So yeah you are not backtracking and fixing the argument.

I also love how you try to downplay the fact that PC will have the superior version,claiming it will be for some like you (lol) and not all,how is going to be the experience for those who own the xbox one.? Hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Oh did i mention that the worse version is what the MAJORITY of xbox fans will play this holiday? Unless you want to pretend that MS will sell 35 million scorpio machines in 1 month.lol

Poor lemming hide on PC when the topic is xbox one vs PS4,but ride scorpio as the best graphics ever.lol

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LOL remember when it was all LOL worthy when COD was 360 marketed? Gotta love SW, dude.

Yep, aint no way I'll choose to use a DS4 over my X1 Elite controller for any shooter and not be playing it on the strongest console as well. Have fun marketing guys!!!

Yes but i am sure you don't remember lemming using COD extra content deal as ammo vs PS3 exclusives because well you remember what serve you best..lol

NO remember you don't need SCORPIO in the same way you don't need a Pro so for your it most be the superior and online free PC version..Hahahahaha

That goal post is to bended from all the moving..lol

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#110 JtoThaMtoThaP
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@tormentos: The thread was about the PS4 marketing and how the Scorpio was in trouble because of it. PC wasn't even in the convo til you brought it up lol.....

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#111 cainetao11
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@tormentos:

Yes but i am sure you don't remember lemming using COD extra content deal as ammo vs PS3 exclusives because well you remember what serve you best..lol

NO remember you don't need SCORPIO in the same way you don't need a Pro so for your it most be the superior and online free PC version..Hahahahaha

That goal post is to bended from all the moving..lol

What? I traded my PS4 in to get a PS4 Pro. What are you talking about?

But this was all important to before

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#112  Edited By j2zon2591
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Sony's good last year for this things I suppose.

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#113 aroxx_ab
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Hopefully Destiny 2 turns out good, wonder what impact PC version will have.

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#114 deactivated-5eb6f92daae05
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@cainetao11: Lmfao at that thread Tormentos created over 2 years back...

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#115 X_CAPCOM_X
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There are a lot of people calling the OP mad, but I think more than anything the OP made people mad. Just look at the "discussion" that unfolded. F'ing A dude some of you need to calm down; this box isn't that important.

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#116  Edited By cainetao11
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@kinky-unikorn said:

@cainetao11: Lmfao at that thread Tormentos created over 2 years back...

LOL right?

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#117 BlackShirt20
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If Sony has marketing deals for 4 of the biggest games coming this year. Then wouldn't that mean Microsoft Project Scorpio has the best version of those games?

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#118 Evo_nine
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Hope cows have fun watching commercials. Meanwhile the best version of all multiplats will be on scorpio for the next 5 years.

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#119 CrashNBurn281
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Perfect way to remove the sting from the almighty Scorpio. Microsoft will be showing shovelware in 4k lol.

Sony has always been smarter than Microsoft though. Been one bitch slap after another for the longest time at E3.

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#120  Edited By ronvalencia
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@crashnburn281 said:

Perfect way to remove the sting from the almighty Scorpio. Microsoft will be showing shovelware in 4k lol.

Sony has always been smarter than Microsoft though. Been one bitch slap after another for the longest time at E3.

Sony's marketed "world's strongest game console" and shovelware'ed 1080p resolution games.

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#121 Yams1980
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destiny 2 and call of duty lol. almost died laughing there. great games you listed

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@Yams1980 said:

destiny 2 and call of duty lol. almost died laughing there. great games you listed

Will you still be laughing when they're topping the charts?

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@tryhardtroll said:
@Evo_nine said:

Hope cows have fun watching commercials. Meanwhile the best version of all multiplats will be on scorpio for the next 5 years.

This. The main reason PS4 sold more is because of the superior multiplats. Now the tide will turn.

Edit: On a side note Black_Goku seems to make the best threads. While I have disagreements with him I must commend his spirit and posting capabilities.

He's a better thread creator then charizard1605.

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#126 Kreten1
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@biack_goku: you mean weaker console considering Scorpio? And seems that you have inside info about MS plans and release schedule so please enlighten us!

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#127  Edited By Kreten1
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@crashnburn281: what showing games that will come in 2020? LOL! Perhaps you missed last 2 E3s because Sony got its booty spanked!

Have fun playing your inferrior version of games knowing that many out there are enjoying better graphics in it!

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#128 kvally
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I play games, not marketing. Glad Scorpio has games in spades, and the best looking games and performing games at that.

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#129 hrt_rulz01
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Yes, we all know that Sony is the king of hiding their weak holiday lineups behind marketing deals... no surprise.

But hey, Xbox gamers will have the best versions of those games so whatevs.

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#130 Nonstop-Madness
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@hrt_rulz01 said:

Yes, we all know that Sony is the king of hiding their weak holiday lineups behind marketing deals... no surprise.

But hey, Xbox gamers will have the best versions of those games so whatevs.

Definitely somewhat agree on the first point but Sony will probably have a decent holiday lineup this year.

Most Xbox gamers will have the worst version (Xbox One), not the best.

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#131 Heil68
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Benefit of being number 1 market share for current gen 8 consoles.

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#132 hrt_rulz01
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@Nonstop-Madness said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:

Yes, we all know that Sony is the king of hiding their weak holiday lineups behind marketing deals... no surprise.

But hey, Xbox gamers will have the best versions of those games so whatevs.

Definitely somewhat agree on the first point but Sony will probably have a decent holiday lineup this year.

Most Xbox gamers will have the worst version (Xbox One), not the best.

True, but the best console version of multiplats will be on the Xbox platform... and that'll drive some of the PS fanboys nuts. Lol.

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#133 oflow
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Who dug up this zombie turd of a thread?

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#134 mowgly1
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@biack_goku:

FIFA 18 also.

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#135 NoirLamia777
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@jtothamtothap: That never stopped people before? Marketing works, that's why businesses pour millions and millions of dollars into these things. The way Sony has these deals it's simply overkill. Also just heard they have the FIFA deal as well?

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#136 DaVillain  Moderator
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@Kreten1: You wanna explain yourself why you bump a 1 month old thread when you could've just make another one?

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#137 PinkAnimal
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I had no idea marketing deals could make some people so insecure. This is pretty funny lol

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#138 freedom01  Moderator
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@Kreten1: no bumping of old threads,

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