Sony has these genres in spades

AS far as brand exclusive titles and top of the heap

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Adventure-Heavy Rain

Diablo type hybrid rpg-Demon Souls

Racing -Grand Turismo 5

Action Adventure-Uncharted 2

Stealth Shooter-MGSIV

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The 360 has

Western RPG-Mass EFfect. Although that's debatable. Demon souls is just as good. Different style. I personally think Demon Souls is a better crafted game. That's just my opinion though. ME has gone too mainstream and watered down. It's a shooter with a lot of dialogue and rpg elements in space at this point. They also have Fable. I still think demon souls is better than both these games

1st person shooter-Halo. Halo Reach. Great. I'm not 14. I don't have to listen to 13 year olds on live trying to pwn my ass. Great game though sure. Nothing against HAlo. It's attention to detail and the amount of ways you can pwn is unreal. Weapons, vehicles, armor, etc, etc... It's still a drug and an instant gratification game though. It has a ton of depth but still. All the halo heads will hate me. But i get halo trust me. It's a great game. If you disagree though tell me where I'm wrong and what is so great about it.

3rd person shooter-Gears. Sorry to say Gears 2 kind of sucked though. Again I'm not 12.

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jrpg-FF is on both at this point

Stealth-The 360 has Splinter Cell i'll give it that. Nice game. Not as good as MGS.

Shooters- the ps3 has an assortment of shooters like MAg, Killzone, Resistance etc..... Not on par with Halo or Gears but nice

platformers-The ps3 has LBP and Ratchet. Nice. The Wii has mario. Game over. The 360 has banjo. It's in dead last.

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PC has

strategy-They have total war, starcraft, civilization.

MMORPG-The have Wow. enough said. APB is going to be not that good. It's made by the people who made crackdown which was not that good.

1st person shooter-Crisis. It's debatable. Lemmings will cry Halo. Hermits will cry Crisis. Cows will cry killzone. I think killzone loses. Hermits have an argument. But Halo Reach wins.

The PC has a lot of adventure games. But the ps3 still has the top shelf game in Heavy Rain.

Uhhh okay?

diablo style rpg hybrid? you mean dungeon crawler?

also whats up with your list? you throw out some ps3 games like we already know why they're good, then spend 30 minutes tearing down games we've played like there's an opportunity to inform us

also Heavy Rain isn't an adventure game

diablo style rpg hybrid? you mean dungeon crawler?

also whats up with your list? you throw out some ps3 games like we already know why they're good, then spend 30 minutes tearing down games we've played like there's an opportunity to inform us

also Heavy Rain isn't an adventure game

88mphSlayer

heavy rain isn't an adventure game? click on heavy rain. It's an adventure game. It's the highest rated one out in the last 3 years.

[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

diablo style rpg hybrid? you mean dungeon crawler?

also whats up with your list? you throw out some ps3 games like we already know why they're good, then spend 30 minutes tearing down games we've played like there's an opportunity to inform us

also Heavy Rain isn't an adventure game

Walker34

heavy rain isn't an adventure game? click on heavy rain. It's an adventure game. It's the highest rated one out in the last 3 years.

i own it, beat it, no it's not an adventure game

at least it's not anything like any adventure games i've ever played before

[QUOTE="Walker34"]

[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

diablo style rpg hybrid? you mean dungeon crawler?

also whats up with your list? you throw out some ps3 games like we already know why they're good, then spend 30 minutes tearing down games we've played like there's an opportunity to inform us

also Heavy Rain isn't an adventure game

88mphSlayer

heavy rain isn't an adventure game? click on heavy rain. It's an adventure game. It's the highest rated one out in the last 3 years.

i own it, beat it, no it's not an adventure game

at least it's not anything like any adventure games i've ever played before

[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

[QUOTE="Walker34"]

heavy rain isn't an adventure game? click on heavy rain. It's an adventure game. It's the highest rated one out in the last 3 years.

verbalfilth

i own it, beat it, no it's not an adventure game

at least it's not anything like any adventure games i've ever played before

Don't forget Myst!

umm...Demons soulsssss *needed to add a few more S's in there* is more akin to ninja gaiden then it is diablo. just wanted to point that out to ya.

[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

[QUOTE="Walker34"]

heavy rain isn't an adventure game? click on heavy rain. It's an adventure game. It's the highest rated one out in the last 3 years.

verbalfilth

i own it, beat it, no it's not an adventure game

at least it's not anything like any adventure games i've ever played before

nooooooooo... i definitely know the difference, dunno i just thought it didn't have enough depth gameplay-wise to be considered an adventure game

umm...Demons soulsssss *needed to add a few more S's in there* is more akin to ninja gaiden then it is diablo. just wanted to point that out to ya.

WilliamRLBaker

no way jose...

it's more like ghouls and ghosts on the NES if anything than ninja gaiden

the diablo concept is fine, diablo is a dungeon crawler with bosses, demon's souls is a dungeon crawler with bosses, biggest difference is the style of gameplay which is where the game is closer to games like ghouls and ghosts than diablo

Demon's Souls is definitely Diablo. There is no problem is comparing the two since they are so similar. Basically, dungeon crawlers.

[QUOTE="verbalfilth"][QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

i own it, beat it, no it's not an adventure game

at least it's not anything like any adventure games i've ever played before

Sparticus247

Don't forget Myst!

jrpg-FF is on both at this pointWalker34

umm...Demons soulsssss *needed to add a few more S's in there* is more akin to ninja gaiden then it is diablo. just wanted to point that out to ya.

WilliamRLBaker

Demon's Souls and Diablo are action RPGs, Ninja Gaiden is action adventure.

Different Genres.

If you can't eve spell the game's name right in the first place it might be wise not to make fun of it.

adventure...

Heavy rain a 8-9 hour experience in which THE DEVS SAID DO NOT PLAY MORE THAN ONCE.

You essentially pay $6 a hour to play that game

Now instead get Mass effect 2 which got EXTREMELY high reviews and is easily contender for GOTY

adventure...

Heavy rain a 8-9 hour experience in which THE DEVS SAID DO NOT PLAY MORE THAN ONCE.

You essentially pay $6 a hour to play that game

Now instead get Mass effect 2 which got EXTREMELY high reviews and is easily contender for GOTY

I would give Racing to the 360 Forza series, PGR series, Race pro, compared to motorstorm series, and an unreleased game (GT5).

adventure...

Heavy rain a 8-9 hour experience in which THE DEVS SAID DO NOT PLAY MORE THAN ONCE.

You essentially pay $6 a hour to play that game

Now instead get Mass effect 2 which got EXTREMELY high reviews and is easily contender for GOTY

johnsonmrom

lul wat...

do you know how many different endings heavy rain has?

gt5 aint out yet. so you have to use just gt5p. which both forza 2 and 3 owns. or else replace splinter cell with mgs4. because that game will crush it on all grounds minus the long cutscreens * i hope*. also alan wake will crush heavy rain. and uncharted 2 wasnt as good as the first one. all it had over the first is a fresh coat of paint and a watered down multi player. if the lara crift making would take their time and release a current tomb raider that game would kick drake in the balls so hard naughty dog real life dogs would feel it.

diablo style rpg hybrid? you mean dungeon crawler?

also whats up with your list? you throw out some ps3 games like we already know why they're good, then spend 30 minutes tearing down games we've played like there's an opportunity to inform us

also Heavy Rain isn't an adventure game

88mphSlayer

[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

diablo style rpg hybrid? you mean dungeon crawler?

also whats up with your list? you throw out some ps3 games like we already know why they're good, then spend 30 minutes tearing down games we've played like there's an opportunity to inform us

also Heavy Rain isn't an adventure game

jasonharris48

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

diablo style rpg hybrid? you mean dungeon crawler?

also whats up with your list? you throw out some ps3 games like we already know why they're good, then spend 30 minutes tearing down games we've played like there's an opportunity to inform us

also Heavy Rain isn't an adventure game

monson21502

Exactly the point of my thread was to prove that an entire gen later and $500 dollars later to MS, all they still have is Halo. That's half the problem with games these days, is if meatballs, no insult intended, stopped buying rehashed 1st person shooters we might be onto something. There are reasons there are 25 million or whatever kiddies buying halo every year. Sure there are intelligent responsible adults that play it too, but MS targets them young.

Racing really? We havent seen a new installment of Gran Turismo since the PS2 era.(please dont usePrologue becauseIt doesnt help your argument) Forza has been king this entire gen.

we all know GT5 is going to be the best racer of this gen. If it isn't you can call me on it.

we all know GT5 is going to be the best racer of this gen. If it isn't you can call me on it.

Walker34

[QUOTE="monson21502"]

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"] Interactive movies is a sub genre of the Adventure genre. As TC remark towards stealth titles Thief and Splinter Cell will surely take that crown, Dungeon Craw;er will being to Diablo 3 of course.

Walker34

Exactly the point of my thread was to prove that an entire gen later and $500 dollars later to MS, all they still have is Halo. That's half the problem with games these days, is if meatballs, no insult intended, stopped buying rehashed 1st person shooters we might be onto something. There are reasons there are 25 million or whatever kiddies buying halo every year. Sure there intelligent responsible adults that play it too, but MS targets them young.

well it would help if Sony stopped making mindless shooters as well

I don't agree with the TC. Racing? Forza is an AAAe racing series. Beating the GT series in score. Action / Adventure? Uncharted 2 is not the clear winner here. I think many people would argue for Gears over Uncharted. Sports, stealth/shooter/adventure are just fillers that you created because only Sony has exclusives in those genres. However there is competition in those genres. I'll give you credit for creative wording to give the edge to Sony.mythrol

[QUOTE="Walker34"]

[QUOTE="monson21502"]pc games dont count on system war forums. they are only used if they are shared with 360 to kill the myth that the 360 has good games that the ps3 doesnt. so its still not worth buying a 360....

88mphSlayer

Exactly the point of my thread was to prove that an entire gen later and $500 dollars later to MS, all they still have is Halo. That's half the problem with games these days, is if meatballs, no insult intended, stopped buying rehashed 1st person shooters we might be onto something. There are reasons there are 25 million or whatever kiddies buying halo every year. Sure there intelligent responsible adults that play it too, but MS targets them young.

well it would help if Sony stopped making mindless shooters as well

you have to admit gears, is a pretty overrated game as well. Gears 2 was kind of flop and so overrated. Epic games and their head honcho just look at him. He has sleazebag written all over him.

I'm not holding back tonight lol. I hope you know I'm kidding, but it's kind of true.

I can't knock halo too bad even though it's a 1st person shooter. It's a great game and Bungie is great. But it's really all MS has really done for the gaming industry. Whether that's good or bad is the argument. Was Doom good for gaming? I tend to think it was terrible. Was Doom innovative and ahead of its time? Sure. It was amazing. But it also changed how games are made for better and for worse in a lot of ways.

[QUOTE="mythrol"]I don't agree with the TC. Racing? Forza is an AAAe racing series. Beating the GT series in score. Action / Adventure? Uncharted 2 is not the clear winner here. I think many people would argue for Gears over Uncharted. Sports, stealth/shooter/adventure are just fillers that you created because only Sony has exclusives in those genres. However there is competition in those genres. I'll give you credit for creative wording to give the edge to Sony.funsohng

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

diablo style rpg hybrid? you mean dungeon crawler?

also whats up with your list? you throw out some ps3 games like we already know why they're good, then spend 30 minutes tearing down games we've played like there's an opportunity to inform us

also Heavy Rain isn't an adventure game

monson21502

[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="mythrol"]I don't agree with the TC. Racing? Forza is an AAAe racing series. Beating the GT series in score. Action / Adventure? Uncharted 2 is not the clear winner here. I think many people would argue for Gears over Uncharted. Sports, stealth/shooter/adventure are just fillers that you created because only Sony has exclusives in those genres. However there is competition in those genres. I'll give you credit for creative wording to give the edge to Sony.mythrol

I don't think one game qualifies as enough for "owning" a genre to be honest. So PC still has adventure on lock down. Same with simulation, sport man

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

umm...Demons soulsssss *needed to add a few more S's in there* is more akin to ninja gaiden then it is diablo. just wanted to point that out to ya.

Gxgear

Demon's Souls and Diablo are action RPGs, Ninja Gaiden is action adventure.

Different Genres.

If you can't eve spell the game's name right in the first place it might be wise not to make fun of it.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

umm...Demons soulsssss *needed to add a few more S's in there* is more akin to ninja gaiden then it is diablo. just wanted to point that out to ya.

Demon's Souls and Diablo are action RPGs, Ninja Gaiden is action adventure.

Different Genres.

If you can't eve spell the game's name right in the first place it might be wise not to make fun of it.

[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

[QUOTE="Walker34"]

Exactly the point of my thread was to prove that an entire gen later and $500 dollars later to MS, all they still have is Halo. That's half the problem with games these days, is if meatballs, no insult intended, stopped buying rehashed 1st person shooters we might be onto something. There are reasons there are 25 million or whatever kiddies buying halo every year. Sure there intelligent responsible adults that play it too, but MS targets them young.

Walker34

well it would help if Sony stopped making mindless shooters as well

you have to admit gears, is a pretty overrated game as well. Gears 2 was kind of flop and so overrated. Epic games and their head honcho just look at him. He has sleazebag written all over him.

I'm not holding back tonight lol. I hope you know I'm kidding, but it's kind of true.

I can't knock halo too bad even though it's a 1st person shooter. It's a great game and Bungie is great. But it's really all MS has really done for the gaming industry. Whether that's good or bad is the argument. Was Doom good for gaming? I tend to think it was terrible. Was Doom innovative and ahead of its time? Sure. It was amazing. But it also changed how games are made for better and for worse in a lot of ways.

Gears of War still has humor, Killzone 2 tho... whoever is the creative director for that is a gigantic douchebag

[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

i own it, beat it, no it's not an adventure game

at least it's not anything like any adventure games i've ever played before

verbalfilth

So where are the Puzzles?

Racing really? We havent seen a new installment of Gran Turismo since the PS2 era.(please dont usePrologue becauseIt doesnt help your argument) Forza has been king this entire gen.

Fizzman

And mark my words, TC. GT5 will NOT beat FM3 in scores. Not on Gamespot, not on Metacritic.

I don't think one game qualifies as enough for "owning" a genre to be honest. So PC still has adventure on lock down. Same with simulation, sport man

AdrianWerner

Heavy rain is the classic adventure game...(games that fall into this genre are shenmue, syberia series, the longest journey series, Broken Sword etc.) verbalfilth

[QUOTE="verbalfilth"][QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

i own it, beat it, no it's not an adventure game

at least it's not anything like any adventure games i've ever played before

ohthemanatee

So where are the Puzzles?

[QUOTE="verbalfilth"]

Heavy rain is the classic adventure game...(games that fall into this genre are shenmue, syberia series, the longest journey series, Broken Sword etc.) AdrianWerner

. I'm pretty sure its in the adventure genre. What would you classify it under if not adventure?verbalfilth

Interactive movie. And I'm serious, not bashing it. It's bassicaly evolution of what Dragon Lair did.We tend to throw any story based game that defies definitions of action and rpg into adventure genre. Hence why dating sims are sometimes also thrown in. However what HR does is take adventure game template and then replace majority of adventure elements with action games-like arcade sequences, which is direct opposite of what adventure game is.

For necesity it might be tolerable to throw HR into adventure category, as it would be dumb for a game site to create another category solely for this game, but for pure definitions. nah, HR doesn't fit into adventure genre, even it's creator says so

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Shenmue on the other hand is arguable; some people claim it as an action adventure while others associate it with RPGs...I, however, fall into the adventure category because that aspect of the game outweighs all the others imo. verbalfilth

Sports and action adventure/adventure would be Wii. GT5 isn't even out yet for racing so how would you know it's top dog? moose_knuckler

Interactive movie. And I'm serious, not bashing it. It's bassicaly evolution of what Dragon Lair did.We tend to throw any story based game that defies definitions of action and rpg into adventure genre. Hence why dating sims are sometimes also thrown in. However what HR does is take adventure game template and then replace majority of adventure elements with action games-like arcade sequences, which is direct opposite of what adventure game is.

For necesity it might be tolerable to throw HR into adventure category, as it would be dumb for a game site to create another category solely for this game, but for pure definitions. nah, HR doesn't fit into adventure genre, even it's creator says so

AdrianWerner

I'm sorry, while you have every right to your opinion, I completely disagree with this statement. Even if the devs want to set themselves apart. I just call it as I see it. True, it does focus heavily on story telling, but will you deny the explorative, investigative and environmental interaction elements it provides? I know it isn't as sublime/indepth as most of the traditional adventure games but it does exist.

how does adventure aspect outweight others? There hardly are any adventure elements at all in Shenmue, it's pretty clean cut action-adventure.

AdrianWerner

[spoiler] the vast majority of the game involves exploring the environment and investigating/interacting with people to find clues to your father's murderer.Additionally, the game relies heavily on making your way around town Performing menial jobs here and there to pay rent/earn income etc. I'd argue that this makes up 80% of the game. The remainded takes up the action aspects. Majority of the action that occurs in the game is usually as a result of major story progression. This so called action usually entails following, chasing, arm wrestling or running away from people etc..all using QTE . Not to mention the nonsensical, time consuming "learning" of moves you have to go through but never really have much need for them. The actual "action" aspect usually involves a 1 on 1 fight in a ring. This is very rare mind you (unless, of course, you do it over and over again to earn income). And even rarer is the actual group fights you get into. While I can see why most poeple see it as Action adventure, I think the action part is simply tacked in the game to give it "variety." The soul of the game resides heavily in the interactivity, the environment, the investigation and the people met along the way (overall experience of the journey). The last thing that comes to mind when I think of Shenmue is action. Much like the last thing that pops into my mind when I think of Heavy Rain is "movie." [/spoiler]

But all in all I guess it all boils down to opinions...as usual.