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Sony has to many trends and statistics fighting against it
-The Most exspensive console has never won.
-Sony has never won a video format war.
-with the exception of the ps2 every trojan horse multimedia sytem has come in last place or flopped.
(I cite the psx and the psp).
-Sony has never launched a console against a major non sega rival.
-The trend has been that every company gets arrogant and fails in there third console cycle.
jessmo30_basic
[QUOTE="jessmo30_basic"]Sony has to many trends and statistics fighting against it
-The Most exspensive console has never won.
-Sony has never won a video format war.
-with the exception of the ps2 every trojan horse multimedia sytem has come in last place or flopped.
(I cite the psx and the psp).
-Sony has never launched a console against a major non sega rival.
-The trend has been that every company gets arrogant and fails in there third console cycle.
FatalDomain
Sony has to many trends and statistics fighting against itYou also forget the trends working for it like... -Its multimedia features that gave it that edge last gen. will also be a huge plus this gen as people move to HD. -Sony's system is also the only system to have a major fanbase in all the regions and sell well in every region. The PS3 still has its fanbase in all the regions by destroying one years worth of MS work in Japan within a couple weeks proves that, as well as out selling the 360 during its launch in NA. It also has HUGE preorders in Europe, breaking records even. -Blu ray is outselling HD DVDs by alot and stand alone blu ray players are getting cheaper. It also has all the movie studio support except for Universal unlike HD DVD. And Blu ray is not a Sony format, its made by the Blu-Ray Association where Sony is just a board member just like Apple Dell Hewlett-Packard Hitachi LG Mitsubishi Electric Panasonic Pioneer Philips Samsung Sharp Sony Sun Microsystems TDK Thomson Twentieth Century Fox Walt Disney Warner Bros. Sony also help with the creation of DVD as being a board member so YES Sony has won a video format war. -PSX was not widly distributed not did it really bring in new technology. RIght now HD is the way to go with HDTVs being the most popular and sought after items, HD movies will be the natural progression. -Sony still has every game that made the PS2 a must buy, most exclusive and some multiplat but they are still there. -No console has had such a large fanbase like Sony has and no console has lost most of its fanbase in one gen. Even the SNES selling 49 million and the N64 selling 40 million was not a huge loss.
-The Most exspensive console has never won.
-Sony has never won a video format war.
-with the exception of the ps2 every trojan horse multimedia sytem has come in last place or flopped.
(I cite the psx and the psp).
-Sony has never launched a console against a major non sega rival.
-The trend has been that every company gets arrogant and fails in there third console cycle.
jessmo30_basic
Sony has to many trends and statistics fighting against it
-The Most exspensive console has never won.
-Sony has never won a video format war.
-with the exception of the ps2 every trojan horse multimedia sytem has come in last place or flopped.
(I cite the psx and the psp).
-Sony has never launched a console against a major non sega rival.
-The trend has been that every company gets arrogant and fails in there third console cycle.
jessmo30_basic
I fail to see how the last three points are trends or statistics. Seems to me you took one previous case, assumed Sony is in the exact same situation and then called it a trend.
While I don't disagree with what you are saying, your thread is far from scientific and, if anything, is based purely on coincidence (except the arrogance thing which I will agree with).
[QUOTE="Vampyronight"]1. PS2- $300, Xbox- $300, GCN- $200, Dreamcast- $200....care to explain how it wasn't the most expensive console last generation? 2. This relates to gaming...how? 3. The PSX also had to compete against the PS2, you know. And since people are willing to say that Gameboy is not a system, you can't use the PSP. 4. You're reaching...really. 5. While true, it's happened only once. Hardly a trend to base anything by. If after another 40 years we see the same thing happening, then I'll conceed that point. And since you bothered to come up with a non-sensical list as to why the PS3 won't win, I've decided to come up with a small list for both MS and Nintendo. Why Nintendo can't win: 1. No console maker has ever gone from winning, to losing, to winning again (see Atari) 2. No disc-based system has ever won unless the system has constant DRE, forcing you to do things like turn it upside down or send it in to the manufacturer on a large scale 3. No console that was colored white has ever one, nor has one ever one that didn't have a name that used real words. Why MS can't win: 1. No system that has repeated the previous generation's disc media has ever won. 2. If the controller has two analog sticks, they must be at an equal level- no console to include dual analog has won without this styled controller. 3. No company has ever entered the home console race, not win on their first, and then come back win in a later generation. Moral of the story? We can all create stupid lists. Now that, together, we've shown the trends going against each console, let's agree that a black hole will swallow the earth, preventing us from ever bucking these trends.jessmo30_basic
Actually, his points are just as valid and "logical". Fanboys looking for excuses to say Sony will lose are grasping at any straw they can, and confusing coincidences with "cause/effect" or a "trend".
And your defense makes no sense. You say the most expensive console never wins and then say that the PS2 and Xbox don't count because they were the same price. Well...both of them beat the GC and DC in sales individually. How does that fit into your theory.
[QUOTE="jessmo30_basic"][QUOTE="Vampyronight"]1. PS2- $300, Xbox- $300, GCN- $200, Dreamcast- $200....care to explain how it wasn't the most expensive console last generation? 2. This relates to gaming...how? 3. The PSX also had to compete against the PS2, you know. And since people are willing to say that Gameboy is not a system, you can't use the PSP. 4. You're reaching...really. 5. While true, it's happened only once. Hardly a trend to base anything by. If after another 40 years we see the same thing happening, then I'll conceed that point. And since you bothered to come up with a non-sensical list as to why the PS3 won't win, I've decided to come up with a small list for both MS and Nintendo. Why Nintendo can't win: 1. No console maker has ever gone from winning, to losing, to winning again (see Atari) 2. No disc-based system has ever won unless the system has constant DRE, forcing you to do things like turn it upside down or send it in to the manufacturer on a large scale 3. No console that was colored white has ever one, nor has one ever one that didn't have a name that used real words. Why MS can't win: 1. No system that has repeated the previous generation's disc media has ever won. 2. If the controller has two analog sticks, they must be at an equal level- no console to include dual analog has won without this styled controller. 3. No company has ever entered the home console race, not win on their first, and then come back win in a later generation. Moral of the story? We can all create stupid lists. Now that, together, we've shown the trends going against each console, let's agree that a black hole will swallow the earth, preventing us from ever bucking these trends.ZIMdoom
Actually, his points are just as valid and "logical". Fanboys looking for excuses to say Sony will lose are grasping at any straw they can, and confusing coincidences with "cause/effect" or a "trend".
And your defense makes no sense. You say the most expensive console never wins and then say that the PS2 and Xbox don't count because they were the same price. Well...both of them beat the GC and DC in sales individually. How does that fit into your theory.
[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"][QUOTE="jessmo30_basic"][QUOTE="Vampyronight"]1. PS2- $300, Xbox- $300, GCN- $200, Dreamcast- $200....care to explain how it wasn't the most expensive console last generation? 2. This relates to gaming...how? 3. The PSX also had to compete against the PS2, you know. And since people are willing to say that Gameboy is not a system, you can't use the PSP. 4. You're reaching...really. 5. While true, it's happened only once. Hardly a trend to base anything by. If after another 40 years we see the same thing happening, then I'll conceed that point. And since you bothered to come up with a non-sensical list as to why the PS3 won't win, I've decided to come up with a small list for both MS and Nintendo. Why Nintendo can't win: 1. No console maker has ever gone from winning, to losing, to winning again (see Atari) 2. No disc-based system has ever won unless the system has constant DRE, forcing you to do things like turn it upside down or send it in to the manufacturer on a large scale 3. No console that was colored white has ever one, nor has one ever one that didn't have a name that used real words. Why MS can't win: 1. No system that has repeated the previous generation's disc media has ever won. 2. If the controller has two analog sticks, they must be at an equal level- no console to include dual analog has won without this styled controller. 3. No company has ever entered the home console race, not win on their first, and then come back win in a later generation. Moral of the story? We can all create stupid lists. Now that, together, we've shown the trends going against each console, let's agree that a black hole will swallow the earth, preventing us from ever bucking these trends.jessmo30_basic
Actually, his points are just as valid and "logical". Fanboys looking for excuses to say Sony will lose are grasping at any straw they can, and confusing coincidences with "cause/effect" or a "trend".
And your defense makes no sense. You say the most expensive console never wins and then say that the PS2 and Xbox don't count because they were the same price. Well...both of them beat the GC and DC in sales individually. How does that fit into your theory.
Hey buy the way did any of you guys ever have nintendo's 32-bit system the virtual boy???? lolKingOfJerseyYep, its currently in storage though. THAT was a flop, PSP is relatively successful.
The 3rd console business is sheer idiocy as well. To define a trend you actually have several examples of supporting data. Only nintendo has won two console generations and followed with a 3rd console. No other company has ever done that. So to claim it's a "trend" is laughable and absurd.ramey70
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