Sony Hints At Future Third Party Downgrades For 360

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#51 Nedemis
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one thing sony isn't taking into account is that when developers work on 360 or PC games, they are able to work on them in tandum cutting down production cost for two platforms. Why would third party developers make the PS3 the lead platform when they can do the exact same amount of work for a game that will work on both the 360 and PC (PC specs destroy either console for these games).
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#52 PS3_3DO
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Games made on the PS3 and ported over to the 360 look better? :lol: Hahahaha that is crazy!

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#53 DAZZER7
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The sad thing is that casuals still believe this, just a while ago I had my brother tell me that the PS3 is a super computer with graphics far beyond the 360 or even the most powerfull gaming PC. I dunno where he got that idea from but he seemed serious. I guess the bigger the lie, the more people will believe it.mr_mozilla

I know, my brother in law recently got one and insisted my comp simply cannot do visuals that the ps3 can all because it doesn't have the cell. I didn't even try arguing with him, I just wouldn't know where to begin lol.

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#54 themyth01
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They've been saying that for years now, funny thing is that even with PS3 as lead platform it still looks the same if not better on the xbox360.
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#55 WillieBeamish
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Gamer kittah speek teh truf

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#57 fellermooty
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This is typical PR crap. Come on you guys can't seriously believe him, he's getting paid to do this!

And years from now, the best multi-plats will still be developed on the 360 as the lead platform...

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#58 cowgriller
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Speaking in a recent interview with VideoGamer.com, Sony Computer Entertainment UK managing director Ray Maguire has suggested that future multi-platform titles from third-parties will be led on PS3 and will have to be downgraded for systems with weaker processors.

Discussing the topic of third-party publisher support on the PS3, Maguire said: "I think we now have an install base which is big enough for any third party to want to develop for. Now the decision making part of development is which do you lead your development on? Is it easier to lead with the most powerful, both in terms of AI and graphics, i.e. PS3 and then just remove part of the functionality for the processors that aren't quite as strong? I would imagine that's very much part of the thought process now from a studio development point of view."

We're already seeing multi-format titles being lead on PS3, including the great looking Mirror's Edge from DICE, but judged on the released demo the game still looks marginally sharper on Xbox 360.

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Well this is good news now we don't have to have all these sloppy ports released on PS3.

jakarai

way to go sony. you have just proved that you can indeed shovel ---- down people's throats when you yourselves are up ----'s creek.

but on the plus side, you have an endless amount of ---- to shovel.

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#59 kyacat
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It looks like Sony being cocky again
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#60 naruto7777
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ps3 is overrated
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#61 jakarai
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Wow some people just can't accept the fact that PS3 will start getting the better looking multilplats in the future. I think I will take Sony's word over anyone here posting in this thread. They are the ones working with the developers they know what the developers want and how the developers will start to develop their games. PS3 is the future.
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#62 SgtWhiskeyjack
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Wow some people just can't accept the fact that PS3 will start getting the better looking multilplats in the future. I think I will take Sony's word over anyone here posting in this thread. They are the ones working with the developers they know what the developers want and how the developers will start to develop their games. PS3 is the future.jakarai

That's as maybe, but do Sony really need to put down the oposition just to make themselves look better?

Those with weaker processors? The PS3's 2 terraflops against the 360's 1 terraflop, does that make the 360's weaker? or does the ease of the 360's processor to develope for make it stronger?

A lot of companies don't have Polyphony Digitals budget to make a game - how long have they been paying their workers during GT5's developement? No wonder they charged X $ for a demo.

Games may well start looking better on the PS3, but only when the full set of tools is available so games don't take 5 years + to make.

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#63 Mamba_Negra
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this thread make me laugh, is that one of the Sony clowns?

LOL

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#64 Phazevariance
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LOL, PS3 doesn't have power, sony wants you to buy it anyways. LOL
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#65 campzor
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Sony just keeps ruining their reputation with these "Just Wait" statements.

They should start putting money into actually doing **** instead of paying these people to make these statements every week.

MrSlippery39

I rather just wait and get something finished and in good quality then a broken down disgrace of a console ze xbox360..
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#66 Kratos-PS3
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:lol:....oh man,stomach cramps...Sony when will this BS stop? Its been 2 years already. :lol:GabeNewellsPie

2 years and its already outselling 360

u=selfownage

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#67 All_that_is_Man
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Sony cocky as usual? Al3x_n90

Exactly....

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#68 Kratos-PS3
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Well then I guess it sucks for Sony since the 360 GPU is far better than the PS3 GPU.

Also 2 years in and games are still performing and looking better on the 360 than the PS3 (Fallout 3 is just one example).

RonnieLottinSF

360 GPU is better by a small margin. PS3's CPU is superior to the 360's on the the other hand.

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#69 jakarai
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[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]:lol:....oh man,stomach cramps...Sony when will this BS stop? Its been 2 years already. :lol:Kratos-PS3

2 years and its already outselling 360

u=selfownage

Actually it did that in it's first year. :wink:

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#70 -Sniper99-
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in 5 year time Ps3 games might look as good as 360 games, imagine that! :shock: beenieman40k
Uncharted looks better than anything 360 has:D
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#71 All_that_is_Man
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[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

Well then I guess it sucks for Sony since the 360 GPU is far better than the PS3 GPU.

Also 2 years in and games are still performing and looking better on the 360 than the PS3 (Fallout 3 is just one example).

Kratos-PS3

360 GPU is better by a small margin. PS3's CPU is superior to the 360's on the the other hand.

Not necessarily, The 360's GPU and CPU are easier to Code thats for sure. Unified architecture the 360 gpu use's makes it easier but not stronger

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#72 All_that_is_Man
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[QUOTE="beenieman40k"]in 5 year time Ps3 games might look as good as 360 games, imagine that! :shock: -Sniper99-
Uncharted looks better than anything 360 has:D

I hate when people just use that defense...Just don't feel into the fanboy

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#73 Kratos-PS3
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In 2006, Sony told me the PS3 would blow the 360 out of the water. In 2007, Sony told me it was their year, the PS3 would dominate. In 2008, Sony told me it was their year, it was over for the 360, and by this coming December, they would be the market champs. It was also suggested HOME would come out this Fall and blow LIVE away, LBP would start a social gaming revolution that would redefine gaming, MGS4 would end the 360's lead, and that Sony's "diverse software" would pull away the Wii's audience.

I'm still waiting.

So when Sony spread more fear, uncertainty, and doubt about the competition, really all I see again are my own doubts about the PS3. Instead of trying to make *yet another promise*, why not deliver on the dozens that they still have outstanding? Sony's mouth keeps writing checks that their butt can't cash.

subrosian

everything i marked in red is false and u have no proof 4 it. I never heard anything about sony saying those things. I agree about the December thing though...im waiting on that too. As for LBP.....heres some ownage 4 u: http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/littlebigplanet

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#74 Kratos-PS3
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[QUOTE="Kratos-PS3"]

[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]:lol:....oh man,stomach cramps...Sony when will this BS stop? Its been 2 years already. :lol:jakarai

2 years and its already outselling 360

u=selfownage

Actually it did that in it's first year. :wink:

lol really? well then thats some more ownage 4 him LOL! :lol: :D

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[QUOTE="-Sniper99-"][QUOTE="beenieman40k"]in 5 year time Ps3 games might look as good as 360 games, imagine that! :shock: All_that_is_Man

Uncharted looks better than anything 360 has:D

I hate when people just use that defense...Just don't feel into the fanboy

I know the truth hurts but dont worry, Nov. 7 isn't too far away (or not).

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#76 bleehum
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Sony has been claiming this from day 1 lol, THEY'RE as bad as sony fanboys. They believe in TEH POWAAHHHHHHHHHHHH of the cell just like all the sony lovers.

RIDICULOUSreally, here i was thinking they WERElying just cause they knew people would be stupid enough to eat it up, reality is THEY'RE being GENUINEand actually think THEIRconsole has some advantage. :lol:

CreepyBacon

What do you expect them to say? "Our console is no better than the rest? Get a grip.....

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#77 Kratos-PS3
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[QUOTE="All_that_is_Man"]

[QUOTE="-Sniper99-"][QUOTE="beenieman40k"]in 5 year time Ps3 games might look as good as 360 games, imagine that! :shock: Bazooka_4ME

Uncharted looks better than anything 360 has:D

I hate when people just use that defense...Just don't feel into the fanboy

I know the truth hurts but dont worry, Nov. 7 isn't too far away (or not).

Yea and Sony will take back the title on Feb 2009 ;)

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#78 adman66
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[QUOTE="jakarai"]

future multi-platform titles from third-parties will be led on PS3 and will have to be downgraded for systems with weaker processors.

speedsix

That is absolutely hilarious:lol:

ya i know,

i think he meant to say, "3rd party devs will spend 4 years figurign out what the #$@! is with cell, then take 4 months to convert it over to 360"

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#79 PandaBear86
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No way, a Sony spokesperson claiming that PS3 games will look better eventually. :shock:Snugenz

Eventually yes. But how long exactly is anybodys guess.

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Could this be true that finally the powah of teh cell will be unlocked!?!

schu

the hidden power..seen this before, time to move on

Well then I guess it sucks for Sony since the 360 GPU is far better than the PS3 GPU.

Also 2 years in and games are still performing and looking better on the 360 than the PS3 (Fallout 3 is just one example).

RonnieLottinSF

Cell can perform some GPU functions to compensate for it. Just wait for devs to unlock teh power...

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#80 Bazooka_4ME
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In 2006, Sony told me the PS3 would blow the 360 out of the water.It didn't cuz it was only released for a month and a half in 06. Did the 360 blew the PS2 out of the water when it came out in 2005? ...HELL NO.

In 2007, Sony told me it was their year, the PS3 would dominate. They didn't in 2007 but after the overall sales chart was posted in January 2008 they did and it outsold the 360 without a single AAA game (..no i'm not kidding :| )

In 2008, Sony told me it was their year, it was over for the 360, and by this coming December, they would be the market champs. Oohh.. it's definitely Sony's year (but not over for the 360 thanks to the fans waiting for Gears 2):

MGS4
LBP
HD Video downloads from PS Store
In-game XMB
Youtube support
Qore Digital Magazine
Flash 9, etc...

So how did the 360 do to make 2008 their year? A few flops and an avatar rip-off?? If you contrast the 2 consoles 2007-to-2008 impact, there's really no question that PS3 improved a lot more

...Oh and PS3 is still outselling the 360 WW :)

It was also suggested HOME would come out this Fall and blow LIVE away, I feel ya but lucky for me I'm an annual Qore subscriber :D

LBP would start a social gaming revolution that would redefine gaming, ...umm it did.

MGS4 would end the 360's lead, it didn't but it helped the PS3 got "there" a little closer.

and that Sony's "diverse software" would pull away the Wii's audience. :lol: aren't you the person that created the topic about pulling away from the Wii after its E3 con.?

I'm still waiting. I don't think you're waiting. You're just bashing.subrosian

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#81 imprezawrx500
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just like how farcry 2 had to be downgraded to work on ps3? or fallout 3
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#82 Team_Microsoft
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*Checks the date....I'm Positive it's not 2006 anymore Sony.:roll:

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#83 HuusAsking
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Sony just keeps ruining their reputation with these "Just Wait" statements.

They should start putting money into actually doing **** instead of paying these people to make these statements every week.

MrSlippery39
Perhaps because paying something to actually do diddly backfired--it only left them most of the time with exasparated ex-devs and a plate full of fail (see Lair). But time is running out. With the 360 in casual territory (under $200) and in fact cheaper than the Wii, and with the next console gen just two years away, a critical mass of gamers may just go, "We're done waiting!" and actually commit.
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#84 HuusAsking
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Cell can perform some GPU functions to compensate for it. Just wait for devs to unlock teh power...

PandaBear86
Two things. One, when you do that, those parts of the Cell can't be used in the game itself. Second, no matter what, the final render has to be done by the RSX, since it's the only thing connected to the video converter chips. And last I heard, the RSX has a few fundamental limitations that not even the Cell can compensate. That's why you don't see a lot of 1080p games and those that are out there use minimal graphical detail and/or enhancement.
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#85 ImOldGreg
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Yet multiplats look worse on it...