Sony Computer Entertainment president Jack Tretton has spoken of fiscal 2008 as "a very challenging period of trying to sell future technology."
Tretton told that Sony had successfully met its PlayStation 3 sales target during the last financial year, but he also noted the difficulty of pushing a high-end device at a time when consumers were being particularly cost-conscious. Hopefully last year is as bad as it gets. I think all indicators are that 2009 is going better than 2008. In 2008, we had a 38 per cent increase in sales and we hit our ten million units worldwide goal for PS3 sales... At the worst possible time, if you're hitting numbers and delivering success... my hope is that as our production efficiencies improve and more great games come to market, the horizon has got to be better for 2009 and 2010.
"It's like being out there in a storm - it does cause you to question your conviction, and tie yourself to the mast and weather the storm," he added. "We have hit a very challenging period of trying to sell future technology, a high-end device, but is on the high-end retail pricing spectrum, at a time when people's disposable income is limited. But I think the fact we were successful in that says people are getting the message, that you get tremendous value when you buy a PlayStation product. Yes there are cheaper machines out there, but not ones that deliver the degree of value for the money that ours does."
Having sold ten million PS3 units last business year, Sony is targeting 13 million system sales during the current one. The predicted 30 per cent sales increase has led analysts to forecast a PS3 price cut this summer, but earlier this week Sony CEO Howard Stringer dismissed rumours of an impending price drop as illogical.
Sony: Hopefully last year is as bad as it gets
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]
Sorry Sony but you better buckle up. You ain't selling 13 million units this year without a price cut. You ain't no wii.
Camer999
The wii sells that in half the time.
I know. the PS3 is behind YOY in NA. A little ahead in Japan and we have no idea about Europe. They are not hitting 13 million without a price cut.
Sorry Sony but you better buckle up. You ain't selling 13 million units this year without a price cut. You ain't no wii.
ActicEdge
Saying PS3 will have a price cut soon is like telling people dont buy any PS3 now and wait for few more months cuz it will cheaper by then off course they wont say anything about price cut till its the time.
sony's version of 'future technology' must refer to the cell and bluray, both the most expensive parts of their console. The cell is blocked with bottlenecks, and Bluray is not necessary for games. Their mistake is just gleaming in this comment.Sony Computer Entertainment president Jack Tretton has spoken of fiscal 2008 as "a very challenging period of trying to sell future technology."
MightyBillam
Tretton told that Sony had successfully met its PlayStation 3 sales target during the last financial year, but he also noted the difficulty of pushing a high-end device at a time when consumers were being particularly cost-conscious. Hopefully last year is as bad as it gets. I think all indicators are that 2009 is going better than 2008. In 2008, we had a 38 per cent increase in sales and we hit our ten million units worldwide goal for PS3 sales... At the worst possible time, if you're hitting numbers and delivering success... my hope is that as our production efficiencies improve and more great games come to market, the horizon has got to be better for 2009 and 2010.
"It's like being out there in a storm - it does cause you to question your conviction, and tie yourself to the mast and weather the storm," he added. "We have hit a very challenging period of trying to sell future technology, a high-end device, but is on the high-end retail pricing spectrum, at a time when people's disposable income is limited. But I think the fact we were successful in that says people are getting the message, that you get tremendous value when you buy a PlayStation product. Yes there are cheaper machines out there, but not ones that deliver the degree of value for the money that ours does."
Having sold ten million PS3 units last business year, Sony is targeting 13 million system sales during the current one. The predicted 30 per cent sales increase has led analysts to forecast a PS3 price cut this summer, but earlier this week Sony CEO Howard Stringer dismissed rumours of an impending price drop as illogical.
[QUOTE="MightyBillam"]sony's version of 'future technology' must refer to the cell and bluray, both the most expensive parts of their console. The cell is blocked with bottlenecks, and Bluray is not necessary for games. Their mistake is just gleaming in this comment.Sony Computer Entertainment president Jack Tretton has spoken of fiscal 2008 as "a very challenging period of trying to sell future technology."
Tretton told that Sony had successfully met its PlayStation 3 sales target during the last financial year, but he also noted the difficulty of pushing a high-end device at a time when consumers were being particularly cost-conscious. Hopefully last year is as bad as it gets. I think all indicators are that 2009 is going better than 2008. In 2008, we had a 38 per cent increase in sales and we hit our ten million units worldwide goal for PS3 sales... At the worst possible time, if you're hitting numbers and delivering success... my hope is that as our production efficiencies improve and more great games come to market, the horizon has got to be better for 2009 and 2010.
"It's like being out there in a storm - it does cause you to question your conviction, and tie yourself to the mast and weather the storm," he added. "We have hit a very challenging period of trying to sell future technology, a high-end device, but is on the high-end retail pricing spectrum, at a time when people's disposable income is limited. But I think the fact we were successful in that says people are getting the message, that you get tremendous value when you buy a PlayStation product. Yes there are cheaper machines out there, but not ones that deliver the degree of value for the money that ours does."
Having sold ten million PS3 units last business year, Sony is targeting 13 million system sales during the current one. The predicted 30 per cent sales increase has led analysts to forecast a PS3 price cut this summer, but earlier this week Sony CEO Howard Stringer dismissed rumours of an impending price drop as illogical.Phazevariance
Is that why Forza 3 coming with 2 DVDs and need to be installed and the deeper we go in this generation you will see more multi DVDs games.
isnt this year worse sales wise?
sony's version of 'future technology' must refer to the cell and bluray, both the most expensive parts of their console. The cell is blocked with bottlenecks, and Bluray is not necessary for games. Their mistake is just gleaming in this comment.[QUOTE="Phazevariance"][QUOTE="MightyBillam"]
Sony Computer Entertainment president Jack Tretton has spoken of fiscal 2008 as "a very challenging period of trying to sell future technology."
Tretton told that Sony had successfully met its PlayStation 3 sales target during the last financial year, but he also noted the difficulty of pushing a high-end device at a time when consumers were being particularly cost-conscious. Hopefully last year is as bad as it gets. I think all indicators are that 2009 is going better than 2008. In 2008, we had a 38 per cent increase in sales and we hit our ten million units worldwide goal for PS3 sales... At the worst possible time, if you're hitting numbers and delivering success... my hope is that as our production efficiencies improve and more great games come to market, the horizon has got to be better for 2009 and 2010.
"It's like being out there in a storm - it does cause you to question your conviction, and tie yourself to the mast and weather the storm," he added. "We have hit a very challenging period of trying to sell future technology, a high-end device, but is on the high-end retail pricing spectrum, at a time when people's disposable income is limited. But I think the fact we were successful in that says people are getting the message, that you get tremendous value when you buy a PlayStation product. Yes there are cheaper machines out there, but not ones that deliver the degree of value for the money that ours does."
Having sold ten million PS3 units last business year, Sony is targeting 13 million system sales during the current one. The predicted 30 per cent sales increase has led analysts to forecast a PS3 price cut this summer, but earlier this week Sony CEO Howard Stringer dismissed rumours of an impending price drop as illogical.Kashiwaba
Is that why Forza 3 coming with 2 DVDs and need to be installed and the deeper we go in this generation you will see more multi DVDs games.
Yeah ok well why do 95% of PS3 games require an install onto the HDD? Whats the point of blu-ray if i still need to install my games?
isnt this year worse sales wise?
johnnyblazed88
I guess ya its worse but this year they lose less per sold PS3 or probably they are making slight profit out of them but they are hiding it so probably its better than last year for them but how they will sell 13 mils by the end of the year noone know probably hidden price drop + GT5 thats their only chance.
Its their own fault for what happened.
[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]
[QUOTE="Phazevariance"] sony's version of 'future technology' must refer to the cell and bluray, both the most expensive parts of their console. The cell is blocked with bottlenecks, and Bluray is not necessary for games. Their mistake is just gleaming in this comment.Fizzman
Is that why Forza 3 coming with 2 DVDs and need to be installed and the deeper we go in this generation you will see more multi DVDs games.
Yeah ok well why do 95% of PS3 games require an install onto the HDD? Whats the point of blu-ray if i still need to install my games?
Install alone is better than install + multi disks ( if you didnt play SO4 you will never know how annoying is to keep switching disks ) so guess thats why they will make Forza 3 need install to avoid the stupid thing we had to go through with SO4 and I always install games on my 360 to get rid of the stupid drive noise and iam sure most of 360 owners do the same so its the same both PS3 and 360 needs install.
[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]
[QUOTE="Phazevariance"] sony's version of 'future technology' must refer to the cell and bluray, both the most expensive parts of their console. The cell is blocked with bottlenecks, and Bluray is not necessary for games. Their mistake is just gleaming in this comment.Fizzman
Is that why Forza 3 coming with 2 DVDs and need to be installed and the deeper we go in this generation you will see more multi DVDs games.
Yeah ok well why do 95% of PS3 games require an install onto the HDD? Whats the point of blu-ray if i still need to install my games?
So you can spend 10 more dollars on new releases and about 3 or 4 times as much for a movie from the 80's and Sony can line their pockets with the money from it all...
Sony should hire that Rotaredom guy... And make him the worldwide CEO.
[QUOTE="Fizzman"]
[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]
Is that why Forza 3 coming with 2 DVDs and need to be installed and the deeper we go in this generation you will see more multi DVDs games.
MizFitAwesome
Yeah ok well why do 95% of PS3 games require an install onto the HDD? Whats the point of blu-ray if i still need to install my games?
So you can spend 10 more dollars on new releases and about 3 or 4 times as much for a movie from the 80's and Sony can line their pockets with the money from it all...
Huh? PS3 new games costs as much as 360 new games.
[QUOTE="Fizzman"]
[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]
Is that why Forza 3 coming with 2 DVDs and need to be installed and the deeper we go in this generation you will see more multi DVDs games.
Kashiwaba
Yeah ok well why do 95% of PS3 games require an install onto the HDD? Whats the point of blu-ray if i still need to install my games?
Install alone is better than install + multi disks ( if you didnt play SO4 you will never know how annoying is to keep switching disks ) so guess thats why they will make Forza 3 need install to avoid the stupid thing we had to go through with SO4 and I always install games on my 360 to get rid of the stupid drive noise and iam sure most of 360 owners do the same so its the same both PS3 and 360 needs install.
Ok so Blu-ray is necessary, yet every game has to be installed so therefore that negates the single advantage Blu-ray had over DVD. Forza Motorsport III is the 1st 360 game that will actually require an install so to say that both the 360 and ps3 need installs is false. In one playthrough of MGSIV i spend 30-40min for installs, yet if i swapped disks it would account to less then a minute. I really fail to see how install alone is better then multi disk based games like Star Ocean. Now Forza III will require only 1 install where again MGSIV requires an install every time you replay the game so thats 30minutes devoted to installs every play though. I dont install any of my games on my HDD for my 360 cause i cant hear it cause A its 15-20 feet away from me, and my TV volume covers it up.
[QUOTE="MightyBillam"]sony's version of 'future technology' must refer to the cell and bluray, both the most expensive parts of their console. The cell is blocked with bottlenecks, and Bluray is not necessary for games. Their mistake is just gleaming in this comment.Sony Computer Entertainment president Jack Tretton has spoken of fiscal 2008 as "a very challenging period of trying to sell future technology."
Tretton told that Sony had successfully met its PlayStation 3 sales target during the last financial year, but he also noted the difficulty of pushing a high-end device at a time when consumers were being particularly cost-conscious. Hopefully last year is as bad as it gets. I think all indicators are that 2009 is going better than 2008. In 2008, we had a 38 per cent increase in sales and we hit our ten million units worldwide goal for PS3 sales... At the worst possible time, if you're hitting numbers and delivering success... my hope is that as our production efficiencies improve and more great games come to market, the horizon has got to be better for 2009 and 2010.
"It's like being out there in a storm - it does cause you to question your conviction, and tie yourself to the mast and weather the storm," he added. "We have hit a very challenging period of trying to sell future technology, a high-end device, but is on the high-end retail pricing spectrum, at a time when people's disposable income is limited. But I think the fact we were successful in that says people are getting the message, that you get tremendous value when you buy a PlayStation product. Yes there are cheaper machines out there, but not ones that deliver the degree of value for the money that ours does."
Having sold ten million PS3 units last business year, Sony is targeting 13 million system sales during the current one. The predicted 30 per cent sales increase has led analysts to forecast a PS3 price cut this summer, but earlier this week Sony CEO Howard Stringer dismissed rumours of an impending price drop as illogical.Phazevariance
IT'S THE YEAR 2015. The big three have their next generation of consoles that are more expensive. The PS3 and Xbox 360 are both very cheap, have slimmer versions, have wi-fi, they both have a fantastic line up of games. Which console would a gamer be more likely to buy? A PS3 which has a blu-ray player (which is mainstream by now in addition to HDTVs being cheaper) and free online or the xbox 360 with a DVD player and a live subscription?
...Yeah... Sony may be serious with the 10-year plan...
[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]
[QUOTE="Fizzman"]
Yeah ok well why do 95% of PS3 games require an install onto the HDD? Whats the point of blu-ray if i still need to install my games?
Fizzman
Install alone is better than install + multi disks ( if you didnt play SO4 you will never know how annoying is to keep switching disks ) so guess thats why they will make Forza 3 need install to avoid the stupid thing we had to go through with SO4 and I always install games on my 360 to get rid of the stupid drive noise and iam sure most of 360 owners do the same so its the same both PS3 and 360 needs install.
Ok so Blu-ray is necessary, yet every game has to be installed so therefore that negates the single advantage Blu-ray had over DVD. Forza Motorsport III is the 1st 360 game that will actually require an install so to say that both the 360 and ps3 need installs is false. In one playthrough of MGSIV i spend 30-40min for installs, yet if i swapped disks it would account to less then a minute. I really fail to see how install alone is better then multi disk based games like Star Ocean. Now Forza III will require only 1 install where again MGSIV requires an install every time you replay the game so thats 30minutes devoted to installs every play though. I dont install any of my games on my HDD for my 360 cause i cant hear it cause A its 15-20 feet away from me, and my TV volume covers it up.
LOL 15~20 feets away then you should play SO4 and see how amazing it is to swap disks over 50 times to make items xD when i was playing the game I gave my niece $10 and told her change the disk whenever i tell you.
sony's version of 'future technology' must refer to the cell and bluray, both the most expensive parts of their console. The cell is blocked with bottlenecks, and Bluray is not necessary for games. Their mistake is just gleaming in this comment.[QUOTE="Phazevariance"][QUOTE="MightyBillam"]
Sony Computer Entertainment president Jack Tretton has spoken of fiscal 2008 as "a very challenging period of trying to sell future technology."
Tretton told that Sony had successfully met its PlayStation 3 sales target during the last financial year, but he also noted the difficulty of pushing a high-end device at a time when consumers were being particularly cost-conscious. Hopefully last year is as bad as it gets. I think all indicators are that 2009 is going better than 2008. In 2008, we had a 38 per cent increase in sales and we hit our ten million units worldwide goal for PS3 sales... At the worst possible time, if you're hitting numbers and delivering success... my hope is that as our production efficiencies improve and more great games come to market, the horizon has got to be better for 2009 and 2010.
"It's like being out there in a storm - it does cause you to question your conviction, and tie yourself to the mast and weather the storm," he added. "We have hit a very challenging period of trying to sell future technology, a high-end device, but is on the high-end retail pricing spectrum, at a time when people's disposable income is limited. But I think the fact we were successful in that says people are getting the message, that you get tremendous value when you buy a PlayStation product. Yes there are cheaper machines out there, but not ones that deliver the degree of value for the money that ours does."
Having sold ten million PS3 units last business year, Sony is targeting 13 million system sales during the current one. The predicted 30 per cent sales increase has led analysts to forecast a PS3 price cut this summer, but earlier this week Sony CEO Howard Stringer dismissed rumours of an impending price drop as illogical.mD-
IT'S THE YEAR 2015. The big three have their next generation of consoles that are more expensive. The PS3 and Xbox 360 are both very cheap, have slimmer versions, have wi-fi, they both have a fantastic line up of games. Which console would a gamer be more likely to buy? A PS3 which has a blu-ray player (which is mainstream by now in addition to HDTVs being cheaper) and free online or the xbox 360 with a DVD player and a live subscription?
...Yeah... Sony may be serious with the 10-year plan...
How do you know BluRay will be mainstream?
[QUOTE="Fizzman"]
[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]
Install alone is better than install + multi disks ( if you didnt play SO4 you will never know how annoying is to keep switching disks ) so guess thats why they will make Forza 3 need install to avoid the stupid thing we had to go through with SO4 and I always install games on my 360 to get rid of the stupid drive noise and iam sure most of 360 owners do the same so its the same both PS3 and 360 needs install.
Kashiwaba
Ok so Blu-ray is necessary, yet every game has to be installed so therefore that negates the single advantage Blu-ray had over DVD. Forza Motorsport III is the 1st 360 game that will actually require an install so to say that both the 360 and ps3 need installs is false. In one playthrough of MGSIV i spend 30-40min for installs, yet if i swapped disks it would account to less then a minute. I really fail to see how install alone is better then multi disk based games like Star Ocean. Now Forza III will require only 1 install where again MGSIV requires an install every time you replay the game so thats 30minutes devoted to installs every play though. I dont install any of my games on my HDD for my 360 cause i cant hear it cause A its 15-20 feet away from me, and my TV volume covers it up.
LOL 15~20 feets away then you should play SO4 and see how amazing it is to swap disks over 50 times to make items xD when i was playing the game I gave my niece $10 and told her change the disk whenever i tell you.
I almost started smoking after watching Snake smoke during those installs.
[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]
[QUOTE="Fizzman"]
Ok so Blu-ray is necessary, yet every game has to be installed so therefore that negates the single advantage Blu-ray had over DVD. Forza Motorsport III is the 1st 360 game that will actually require an install so to say that both the 360 and ps3 need installs is false. In one playthrough of MGSIV i spend 30-40min for installs, yet if i swapped disks it would account to less then a minute. I really fail to see how install alone is better then multi disk based games like Star Ocean. Now Forza III will require only 1 install where again MGSIV requires an install every time you replay the game so thats 30minutes devoted to installs every play though. I dont install any of my games on my HDD for my 360 cause i cant hear it cause A its 15-20 feet away from me, and my TV volume covers it up.
Fizzman
LOL 15~20 feets away then you should play SO4 and see how amazing it is to swap disks over 50 times to make items xD when i was playing the game I gave my niece $10 and told her change the disk whenever i tell you.
I almost started smoking after watching Snake smoke during those installs.
well I agree with you PS3 game installing sux specially with MGS4 but the rest of the games just require installing once but taking a 8~10 mins rest after finishing each chapter in MGS4 isnt as bad as swapping disks many times in a short time specially if the console is far from you.
[QUOTE="mD-"]
[QUOTE="Phazevariance"] sony's version of 'future technology' must refer to the cell and bluray, both the most expensive parts of their console. The cell is blocked with bottlenecks, and Bluray is not necessary for games. Their mistake is just gleaming in this comment.MizFitAwesome
IT'S THE YEAR 2015. The big three have their next generation of consoles that are more expensive. The PS3 and Xbox 360 are both very cheap, have slimmer versions, have wi-fi, they both have a fantastic line up of games. Which console would a gamer be more likely to buy? A PS3 which has a blu-ray player (which is mainstream by now in addition to HDTVs being cheaper) and free online or the xbox 360 with a DVD player and a live subscription?
...Yeah... Sony may be serious with the 10-year plan...
How do you know BluRay will be mainstream?
http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6667297.html?industryid=47213 In addition, if you don't think blu-rays/blu-ray players will be cheaper by the year 2012, I don't know what to tell you...lol. DVD players were way more expensive back in the day and now they are cheap as dirt. Tis the way of technology as it ages. Blu-ray players are manufactured by many companies, it's not going to stay expensive and just fade away in a few years. That's one reason it was big for Sony to win the format war. There have been articles about current blu-ray prices dropping too.
Yes it would not be logical for Sony to drop the price. I dont see a price drop for the PS3 ever. If you want cheaper, better entertainment get a 360.djsifer01fixed that for ya.
[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]
[QUOTE="Fizzman"]
Ok so Blu-ray is necessary, yet every game has to be installed so therefore that negates the single advantage Blu-ray had over DVD. Forza Motorsport III is the 1st 360 game that will actually require an install so to say that both the 360 and ps3 need installs is false. In one playthrough of MGSIV i spend 30-40min for installs, yet if i swapped disks it would account to less then a minute. I really fail to see how install alone is better then multi disk based games like Star Ocean. Now Forza III will require only 1 install where again MGSIV requires an install every time you replay the game so thats 30minutes devoted to installs every play though. I dont install any of my games on my HDD for my 360 cause i cant hear it cause A its 15-20 feet away from me, and my TV volume covers it up.
LOL 15~20 feets away then you should play SO4 and see how amazing it is to swap disks over 50 times to make items xD when i was playing the game I gave my niece $10 and told her change the disk whenever i tell you.
I almost started smoking after watching Snake smoke during those installs.
I don't know why but that really made me laugh.[QUOTE="Fizzman"]
[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]
LOL 15~20 feets away then you should play SO4 and see how amazing it is to swap disks over 50 times to make items xD when i was playing the game I gave my niece $10 and told her change the disk whenever i tell you.
Kashiwaba
I almost started smoking after watching Snake smoke during those installs.
well I agree with you PS3 game installing sux specially with MGS4 but the rest of the games just require installing once but taking a 8~10 mins rest after finishing each chapter in MGS4 isnt as bad as swapping disks many times in a short time specially if the console is far from you.
You forgot to add IMO, because there are many more people that probably hated the installation time. I also like how they told you smoking was bad for you while they showed Snake smoking....
im taking what hes said more in the terms as hes referring to the economy, not just the ps3, and yes hopefully last year was as bad as the economy gets
Tsk Tsk, when will Sony learn...
Z0MBIES
The same time their fanboys get a clue or when the Cubs win the World Series....
i think this years been worse for pretty much every video game company.As far as America the 360 and the DS are the only system that have increased their year to year sales. All the other systems have had a decrease. The Wii still sold the most consoles even with the decrease though. The 360's sales have increased big time in the UK.[QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]
isnt this year worse sales wise?
Zero5000X
sony's version of 'future technology' must refer to the cell and bluray, both the most expensive parts of their console. The cell is blocked with bottlenecks, and Bluray is not necessary for games. Their mistake is just gleaming in this comment.[QUOTE="Phazevariance"][QUOTE="MightyBillam"]
Sony Computer Entertainment president Jack Tretton has spoken of fiscal 2008 as "a very challenging period of trying to sell future technology."
Tretton told that Sony had successfully met its PlayStation 3 sales target during the last financial year, but he also noted the difficulty of pushing a high-end device at a time when consumers were being particularly cost-conscious. Hopefully last year is as bad as it gets. I think all indicators are that 2009 is going better than 2008. In 2008, we had a 38 per cent increase in sales and we hit our ten million units worldwide goal for PS3 sales... At the worst possible time, if you're hitting numbers and delivering success... my hope is that as our production efficiencies improve and more great games come to market, the horizon has got to be better for 2009 and 2010.
"It's like being out there in a storm - it does cause you to question your conviction, and tie yourself to the mast and weather the storm," he added. "We have hit a very challenging period of trying to sell future technology, a high-end device, but is on the high-end retail pricing spectrum, at a time when people's disposable income is limited. But I think the fact we were successful in that says people are getting the message, that you get tremendous value when you buy a PlayStation product. Yes there are cheaper machines out there, but not ones that deliver the degree of value for the money that ours does."
Having sold ten million PS3 units last business year, Sony is targeting 13 million system sales during the current one. The predicted 30 per cent sales increase has led analysts to forecast a PS3 price cut this summer, but earlier this week Sony CEO Howard Stringer dismissed rumours of an impending price drop as illogical.mD-
IT'S THE YEAR 2015. The big three have their next generation of consoles that are more expensive. The PS3 and Xbox 360 are both very cheap, have slimmer versions, have wi-fi, they both have a fantastic line up of games. Which console would a gamer be more likely to buy? A PS3 which has a blu-ray player (which is mainstream by now in addition to HDTVs being cheaper) and free online or the xbox 360 with a DVD player and a live subscription?
...Yeah... Sony may be serious with the 10-year plan...
IT'S THE YEAR 2015. The big three have their next generation of consoles that are more expensive. The PS3 and Xbox 360 are both very cheap, have slimmer versions, have wi-fi, they both have a fantastic line up of games. HiDef movies and games are streamed live directly to your console on your 100Mb High Speed broadband connection making Blueray and DVD media readers irrelevant for the vast majority.
Which is the customer going to buy? The PS3 with it's hobbled online interface? Or the Xbox 360 with a great online service and years of experience streaming HD?
Whose 10 year plan has been thought out best?
[QUOTE="mD-"]
[QUOTE="Phazevariance"] sony's version of 'future technology' must refer to the cell and bluray, both the most expensive parts of their console. The cell is blocked with bottlenecks, and Bluray is not necessary for games. Their mistake is just gleaming in this comment.N3xus9
IT'S THE YEAR 2015. The big three have their next generation of consoles that are more expensive. The PS3 and Xbox 360 are both very cheap, have slimmer versions, have wi-fi, they both have a fantastic line up of games. Which console would a gamer be more likely to buy? A PS3 which has a blu-ray player (which is mainstream by now in addition to HDTVs being cheaper) and free online or the xbox 360 with a DVD player and a live subscription?
...Yeah... Sony may be serious with the 10-year plan...
IT'S THE YEAR 2015. The big three have their next generation of consoles that are more expensive. The PS3 and Xbox 360 are both very cheap, have slimmer versions, have wi-fi, they both have a fantastic line up of games. HiDef movies and games are streamed live directly to your console on your 100Mb High Speed broadband connection making Blueray and DVD media readers irrelevant for the vast majority.
Which is the customer going to buy? The PS3 with it's hobbled online interface? Or the Xbox 360 with a great online service and years of experience streaming HD?
Whose 10 year plan has been thought out best?
And PSN still won't have cross game chat and t-shirts in home will be $4.99 a
sony's version of 'future technology' must refer to the cell and bluray, both the most expensive parts of their console. The cell is blocked with bottlenecks, and Bluray is not necessary for games. Their mistake is just gleaming in this comment.[QUOTE="Phazevariance"][QUOTE="MightyBillam"]
Sony Computer Entertainment president Jack Tretton has spoken of fiscal 2008 as "a very challenging period of trying to sell future technology."
Tretton told that Sony had successfully met its PlayStation 3 sales target during the last financial year, but he also noted the difficulty of pushing a high-end device at a time when consumers were being particularly cost-conscious. Hopefully last year is as bad as it gets. I think all indicators are that 2009 is going better than 2008. In 2008, we had a 38 per cent increase in sales and we hit our ten million units worldwide goal for PS3 sales... At the worst possible time, if you're hitting numbers and delivering success... my hope is that as our production efficiencies improve and more great games come to market, the horizon has got to be better for 2009 and 2010.
"It's like being out there in a storm - it does cause you to question your conviction, and tie yourself to the mast and weather the storm," he added. "We have hit a very challenging period of trying to sell future technology, a high-end device, but is on the high-end retail pricing spectrum, at a time when people's disposable income is limited. But I think the fact we were successful in that says people are getting the message, that you get tremendous value when you buy a PlayStation product. Yes there are cheaper machines out there, but not ones that deliver the degree of value for the money that ours does."
Having sold ten million PS3 units last business year, Sony is targeting 13 million system sales during the current one. The predicted 30 per cent sales increase has led analysts to forecast a PS3 price cut this summer, but earlier this week Sony CEO Howard Stringer dismissed rumours of an impending price drop as illogical.Kashiwaba
Is that why Forza 3 coming with 2 DVDs and need to be installed and the deeper we go in this generation you will see more multi DVDs games.
you do realize what you just said?
o i understand your trying to say that ps3 is better because it has blu-ray so it does not need installs....... O WAIT SONY NEEDED INSTALLS ON EVERY GAME FOR A FEW YEARS INTO ITS LIFESPAN!!!!
i guess dvd is better then blu-ray since it is optional to install, and has betterread speeds
post failed try harder next time
Yes it would not be logical for Sony to drop the price. I dont see a price drop for the PS3 ever. If you want cheap unreliable entertainment get a 360.djsifer01
This is the kind of crap that makes people not take you seriously, and brings PS3 fanboys (and ultimately the PS3) so much hate on this board. Now we KNOW you dont have a 360, no point in posting fake pics from "your" playfire account anymore.
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[QUOTE="Phazevariance"] sony's version of 'future technology' must refer to the cell and bluray, both the most expensive parts of their console. The cell is blocked with bottlenecks, and Bluray is not necessary for games. Their mistake is just gleaming in this comment.N3xus9
IT'S THE YEAR 2015. The big three have their next generation of consoles that are more expensive. The PS3 and Xbox 360 are both very cheap, have slimmer versions, have wi-fi, they both have a fantastic line up of games. Which console would a gamer be more likely to buy? A PS3 which has a blu-ray player (which is mainstream by now in addition to HDTVs being cheaper) and free online or the xbox 360 with a DVD player and a live subscription?
...Yeah... Sony may be serious with the 10-year plan...
IT'S THE YEAR 2015. The big three have their next generation of consoles that are more expensive. The PS3 and Xbox 360 are both very cheap, have slimmer versions, have wi-fi, they both have a fantastic line up of games. HiDef movies and games are streamed live directly to your console on your 100Mb High Speed broadband connection making Blueray and DVD media readers irrelevant for the vast majority.
Which is the customer going to buy? The PS3 with it's hobbled online interface? Or the Xbox 360 with a great online service and years of experience streaming HD?
Whose 10 year plan has been thought out best?
Hi-Def streaming will be more common, but do you really think that will become more popular than blu-ray and dvd's in 2015?[QUOTE="N3xus9"][QUOTE="mD-"]
IT'S THE YEAR 2015. The big three have their next generation of consoles that are more expensive. The PS3 and Xbox 360 are both very cheap, have slimmer versions, have wi-fi, they both have a fantastic line up of games. Which console would a gamer be more likely to buy? A PS3 which has a blu-ray player (which is mainstream by now in addition to HDTVs being cheaper) and free online or the xbox 360 with a DVD player and a live subscription?
...Yeah... Sony may be serious with the 10-year plan...
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IT'S THE YEAR 2015. The big three have their next generation of consoles that are more expensive. The PS3 and Xbox 360 are both very cheap, have slimmer versions, have wi-fi, they both have a fantastic line up of games. HiDef movies and games are streamed live directly to your console on your 100Mb High Speed broadband connection making Blueray and DVD media readers irrelevant for the vast majority.
Which is the customer going to buy? The PS3 with it's hobbled online interface? Or the Xbox 360 with a great online service and years of experience streaming HD?
Whose 10 year plan has been thought out best?
Hi-Def streaming will be more common, but do you really think that will become more popular than blu-ray and dvd's in 2015? If this gen alone has taught us anything, it's that pretty much anything is possible. I'm leaning more towards the possibility that HD streaming will become more popular that Blu Ray for the simple fact that it will pretty much markets itself as so damned convenient. Look at itunes, iPod and what they have done to CD sales (Though that actually deals in content that you can keep) . It's pretty much a foregone conclusion IMO that HD Streaming is on the fast track to our living rooms. On Demand is practically doing it already.sony's version of 'future technology' must refer to the cell and bluray, both the most expensive parts of their console. The cell is blocked with bottlenecks, and Bluray is not necessary for games. Their mistake is just gleaming in this comment.[QUOTE="Phazevariance"][QUOTE="MightyBillam"]
Sony Computer Entertainment president Jack Tretton has spoken of fiscal 2008 as "a very challenging period of trying to sell future technology."
Tretton told that Sony had successfully met its PlayStation 3 sales target during the last financial year, but he also noted the difficulty of pushing a high-end device at a time when consumers were being particularly cost-conscious. Hopefully last year is as bad as it gets. I think all indicators are that 2009 is going better than 2008. In 2008, we had a 38 per cent increase in sales and we hit our ten million units worldwide goal for PS3 sales... At the worst possible time, if you're hitting numbers and delivering success... my hope is that as our production efficiencies improve and more great games come to market, the horizon has got to be better for 2009 and 2010.
"It's like being out there in a storm - it does cause you to question your conviction, and tie yourself to the mast and weather the storm," he added. "We have hit a very challenging period of trying to sell future technology, a high-end device, but is on the high-end retail pricing spectrum, at a time when people's disposable income is limited. But I think the fact we were successful in that says people are getting the message, that you get tremendous value when you buy a PlayStation product. Yes there are cheaper machines out there, but not ones that deliver the degree of value for the money that ours does."
Having sold ten million PS3 units last business year, Sony is targeting 13 million system sales during the current one. The predicted 30 per cent sales increase has led analysts to forecast a PS3 price cut this summer, but earlier this week Sony CEO Howard Stringer dismissed rumours of an impending price drop as illogical.Kashiwaba
Is that why Forza 3 coming with 2 DVDs and need to be installed and the deeper we go in this generation you will see more multi DVDs games.
Disc swapping is nothing new...No reason to be lazy. I mean, look at MGS4...One had the time to get up and swap discs 150 times during the time it took to install a chapter on the PS3's HDD. More proof BluRay is complete garbage when it comes to gaming.Does anybody know the production costs for the PlayStation 3? If it's still $850 as some people say, then maybe Sony are right to keep the price high. It's hard to imagine Sony selling the PS3 at such a collosal loss when they are already haemorraging money as it is.
What I can't, for the life of me, understand is why Sony feel this is suddenly a good time to expand their product line in the portable market. This isn't going to help them.
I really like that Jack Tretton dude, he was pretty cool at E3Kurdish-GamerYeah...I liked how he announced FF XIV as exclusive, and "forgot" to mention it was "online"...The crowd's disappointment seeing it's an MMO was priceless ownage. I kinda felt sorry for him.
I really feel bad for sony, I mean all the people's jobs at stake.... They are people too.
Camer999
Yeah but they're foreign jobs, not American, so no tears from me. If it was the 360 going under instead I'd feel bad, but Sonys peons are paying the price for their CEO's arrogance.
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I really feel bad for sony, I mean all the people's jobs at stake.... They are people too.
Jacumov
Yeah but they're foreign jobs, not American, so no tears from me. If it was the 360 going under instead I'd feel bad, but Sonys peons are paying the price for their CEO's arrogance.
And this is why foreign countries hate americans (I am american BTW..)
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