Sony is by far the worst offender when it comes to blocking games from other platforms/consoles, yeah?

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#51 sealionact
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@hardwenzen: I don’t play ps5 exclusives because I don’t have a ps5.

You don’t play ps5 exclusives because you don’t like them.

You’ll play more Xbox games than Sony games this year.

Ask yourself which makes more sense.

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#52  Edited By Nonstop-Madness
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Remember the official Nintendo seal?

Well, Nintendo prohibited developers from releasing games for other consoles and went as far as only allowing them to release two games a year.

You got this seal on your box if you did that. lol

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#53 daredevils2k
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It’s funny how OP forgotten the glory days of the 360. MS was paying Activison so much money to block dlc and other games from coming over to the ps3 on same day release.

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#54 R4gn4r0k
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Sony even started holding certain modes/features hostage on their platform, which I find even more offensive than straight up exclusives.

So yeah, they started this whole ordeal than started crying when a big player came in and started to do it too.

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#55  Edited By Mesome713
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@Nonstop-Madness: How much did they pay them for that seal? Zero? Did you answer zero??? If you did your correct, Nintendo didnt pay them a dime.

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#56 Nonstop-Madness
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@mesome713: They would actually end up paying Nintendo to not release on other platforms. lmao

I'd say that's significantly worse.

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@daredevils2k: Not saying MS doesn't do it. But overall Sony does it more.

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#59 Pedro
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@sealionact said:

@hardwenzen: I don’t play ps5 exclusives because I don’t have a ps5.

You don’t play ps5 exclusives because you don’t like them.

You’ll play more Xbox games than Sony games this year.

Ask yourself which makes more sense.

Brutal but truthful.

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#60 hardwenzen
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@sealionact said:

@hardwenzen: I don’t play ps5 exclusives because I don’t have a ps5.

You don’t play ps5 exclusives because you don’t like them.

You’ll play more Xbox games than Sony games this year.

Ask yourself which makes more sense.

Would you stop crying already? I play PS exclusives that i care about. FF16 and Spiderman2 might be 90+ Meta games, and could be winning GOTY awards all over, but i wouldn't care cuz its not for me.

You play whatever shovelware that comes out on your system just so you could tell the likes of me that you're using your X, but in reality, these games feel more of a chore to you than anything else, and i find this to be incredibly pathetic. Your gaming experience feels more like work than entertainment, and that is so bad, incredibly bad.

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#61 Mesome713
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@hardwenzen: So you just playing Microsoft Exclusive Starfield this year. Thanks for playing Clown Cow.

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#62 Last_Lap
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Dawn, this thread is playing out like a prison shower scene and lemwenzen just dropped the soap 🤣

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#64 iambatman7986
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There's a video from just before the ps1 launched of the leads of the company saying their whole strategy was to buy exclusives and buy developers to make Playstation the dominating game console before it even launched. They definitely did a lot to make paying for exclusives the way it is today.

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#66  Edited By loudheadphones
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@loudheadphones: Yeah, From made it, dude. Should be on other systems. Sony helped with cash, but From would've made it regardless, eventually. It's Miyazaki's vision.

Clarification. What I'm saying is that regardless of who funds it, if it's third party it belongs on other systems, all systems it can get on. It's not like Sony would lose money, they'd only make money. First party is good for exclusives to make system unique or whatever, fine. But third party belongs on all systems.

With huge help of Sony, dude.

Looks like it is not a Miyazaki's visions only. Sony approached them with an idea. Demon's Souls wouldn't be without Sony. Same as ex Japan Studio provided the idea of Bloodborne. Demon's Souls is a 1ST PARTY GAME, same as Bloodborne. No need to ignore damn facts. Get over it, Demon's Souls is a Sony's idea, it is a Sony IP.

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#67 HalcyonScarlet
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@HalcyonScarlet: Starfield doesn't even run at 30fps stable, so why are we talking about Sony's standard 60fps?

What version of Starfield did you play?

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#68 hardwenzen
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:

@HalcyonScarlet: Starfield doesn't even run at 30fps stable, so why are we talking about Sony's standard 60fps?

What version of Starfield did you play?

The X one, it was pathetic.

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@loudheadphones: Lol, no. All Souls are Miyazaki through and through.

Can't stand peeps trying to take credit away from that guy.

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@mesome713:

Go do your own research. Maybe even watch a little movie called "Tetris".

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I dunno. Nintendo seems to be the right answer cos they even block their own games on their own hardware.

They did not even argue against the MS deal and never really complain about the competition at all so at least they are not the ridiculous hypocrites that Sony are. Sony was straight up trying to block the competition for doing what they do all the time.

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#72  Edited By mojito1988
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@hardwenzen said:
@sealionact said:

@hardwenzen: Didn’t mention any dates there bud, just that you have a pc and that you’ll spend more money on Xbox games in 2023 than Sony games.

Hurts to hear, but it’s the truth.

I will play your one game for $1-10🤡🤡🤡This is literally humilliation to the highest of levels.

Can you play SONY EXCLUSIVES? No rofl.

Can Sony Exclusives actually be played? I thought people just watched Cutscenes all day...interesting. Oh you mean the part where you get strung along on a tight leash for a few minutes before the next 10 cutscenes. Got it.

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#73 hardwenzen
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@mojito1988 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@sealionact said:

@hardwenzen: Didn’t mention any dates there bud, just that you have a pc and that you’ll spend more money on Xbox games in 2023 than Sony games.

Hurts to hear, but it’s the truth.

I will play your one game for $1-10🤡🤡🤡This is literally humilliation to the highest of levels.

Can you play SONY EXCLUSIVES? No rofl.

Can Sony Exclusives actually be played? I thought people just watched Cutscenes all day...interesting. Oh you mean the part where you get strung along on a tight leash for a few minutes before the next 10 cutscenes. Got it.

I don't know, bruh, TLOU2 had more gameplay in it than 3 Gears titles combined, and it was also way better. You only watch its cutscenes on youtube because you're impressed by the quality on offer.

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#74 mojito1988
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@hardwenzen said:
@mojito1988 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@sealionact said:

@hardwenzen: Didn’t mention any dates there bud, just that you have a pc and that you’ll spend more money on Xbox games in 2023 than Sony games.

Hurts to hear, but it’s the truth.

I will play your one game for $1-10🤡🤡🤡This is literally humilliation to the highest of levels.

Can you play SONY EXCLUSIVES? No rofl.

Can Sony Exclusives actually be played? I thought people just watched Cutscenes all day...interesting. Oh you mean the part where you get strung along on a tight leash for a few minutes before the next 10 cutscenes. Got it.

I don't know, bruh, TLOU2 had more gameplay in it than 3 Gears titles combined, and it was also way better. You only watch its cutscenes on youtube because you're impressed by the quality on offer.

Listen I am doing the best I can! MS does not even make games anymore!

(It's not like I can actually hide my love for Ratchet and Clank or anything)

It is so much easier for Sony and Nintendo fans on SW these days...I miss it when there were 3. So much less fun when one of them just throw in the towel like this!

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#75  Edited By Silentchief
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@nod_calypse: The Demonsouls IP is owned by Sony. So no it should have never came to Xbox.

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#76 HalcyonScarlet
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@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:

@HalcyonScarlet: Starfield doesn't even run at 30fps stable, so why are we talking about Sony's standard 60fps?

What version of Starfield did you play?

The X one, it was pathetic.

Oh, so the game came out?

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#77 JoshRMeyer
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According to wiki, PS5 has 560 games vs Xbox series having 397. I doubt Sony is paying for the 163 game difference. But I do agree that unless Sony or MS had a financial part in making the game, it should be multiplat. The only exclusives should be the ones made specifically for the console, which Xbox isn't going to have any, so this is just about Sony and Nintendo at this point. It's sad because Series X could perform so much better than it's been with games this gen so far, even first party games.

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#78 hardwenzen
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:

@HalcyonScarlet: Starfield doesn't even run at 30fps stable, so why are we talking about Sony's standard 60fps?

What version of Starfield did you play?

The X one, it was pathetic.

Oh, so the game came out?

A version that is as bad as one in pre alpha, yea.

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#79 adsparky
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All the companies have done that, Sony still does it because it still works for them, Microsoft tried to do the exact same but stopped working for them more or less at half of the 360 era, they still tried with the xbox one though.

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#80 Star67
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@nod_calypse: Do people not remember the 360 vs PS3 era of gaming? Where the 360 was getting console exclusives the entire generation because MS did the same thing Sony is doing now?

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#81 HalcyonScarlet
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@hardwenzen: Your comments get real goofy sometimes.

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#82 hardwenzen
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@HalcyonScarlet said:

@hardwenzen: Your comments get real goofy sometimes.

Because i understand gaming far more than you ever will, and to an amateur such as yourself, things can indeed sound goofy when you're not understanding.

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@nod_calypse said:

And it's not even close. Sony arguably started this whole pay-up-front-to-block-games craze (I think...correct me if I'm wrong). They've been paying third parties to block content or entire games from consoles, mainly Xbox, for forever and a day. Developing exclusive games with in-house first party devs is one thing, but paying out the nose for third party exclusivity to any extent is garbage, and that is exactly what Sony excels at. Garbage. Now, some good games have come out of it, no doubt. I'm playing Demon's Souls Remake right now, and hot damn, this game is the shizz. Puts most other games this gen to shame. But it should be on Xbox too. Back in the day, it should've been on Xbox. Paying for third party exclusivity being such a big thing these days is almost entirely, if not entirely outright, Sony's fault. Sure, other companies, they all do it. But Sony got that ball rolling. They even do it with VR, for effs sake.

Anyway, agree, disagree, whatever. Yeah, MS just bought the entire neighborhood, let alone one block , with the acquisition. But I wonder if that would've even happened if Sony hadn't been up to these same types of shenanigans for generations on end. Discuss.

Discuss what? Do you have actual tengible data or just rääänt?

But Sony got that ball rolling. They even do it with VR, for effs sake.

Who got that ball rolling? Certainly not Sony.

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Microsoft and Nintendo VR HDMs are so much more multiplatf... nah wait...

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@Sam3231 said:

Imagine if all games were just on all systems.

There would be no system wars, it's anti-climactic.

Yeah there would be. You could see a bit of what would be argued now. Which console have the better looking muliplats?

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@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

@hardwenzen: Your comments get real goofy sometimes.

Because i understand gaming far more than you ever will, and to an amateur such as yourself, things can indeed sound goofy when you're not understanding.

Are you sane?

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#86 HalcyonScarlet
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@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

@hardwenzen: Your comments get real goofy sometimes.

Because i understand gaming far more than you ever will, and to an amateur such as yourself, things can indeed sound goofy when you're not understanding.

Grow up.

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#87 shellcase86
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Further consolidation is incoming, for sure. Regardless of who started it, w/ the ABK deal going through regulators signaled their comfort/tolerance for mergers/acquisitions of all sizes.

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#88 hardwenzen
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

@hardwenzen: Your comments get real goofy sometimes.

Because i understand gaming far more than you ever will, and to an amateur such as yourself, things can indeed sound goofy when you're not understanding.

Grow up.

Its you who have a thing or two to learn, bro.

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#89  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

@hardwenzen: Your comments get real goofy sometimes.

Because i understand gaming far more than you ever will, and to an amateur such as yourself, things can indeed sound goofy when you're not understanding.

Grow up.

Its you who have a thing or two to learn, bro.

Elitism when it comes to gaming is a thought process I let go of a long long time ago.

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#90 hardwenzen
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

@hardwenzen: Your comments get real goofy sometimes.

Because i understand gaming far more than you ever will, and to an amateur such as yourself, things can indeed sound goofy when you're not understanding.

Grow up.

Its you who have a thing or two to learn, bro.

Elitism when it comes to gaming is a thought process I let go of a long long time ago.

And that is why i know much more than you ever will.

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#91 HalcyonScarlet
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@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:

Because i understand gaming far more than you ever will, and to an amateur such as yourself, things can indeed sound goofy when you're not understanding.

Grow up.

Its you who have a thing or two to learn, bro.

Elitism when it comes to gaming is a thought process I let go of a long long time ago.

And that is why i know much more than you ever will.

As I said... Goofy. :-S

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#92 hardwenzen
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

Grow up.

Its you who have a thing or two to learn, bro.

Elitism when it comes to gaming is a thought process I let go of a long long time ago.

And that is why i know much more than you ever will.

As I said... Goofy. :-S

Nope, not goofy at all. Simply not into it. Knowledge, tho, that is my specialty.

If you have any questions about gaming, i will answer your questions.

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@hardwenzen said:
@sealionact said:

@hardwenzen: I don’t play ps5 exclusives because I don’t have a ps5.

You don’t play ps5 exclusives because you don’t like them.

You’ll play more Xbox games than Sony games this year.

Ask yourself which makes more sense.

Would you stop crying already? I play PS exclusives that i care about. FF16 and Spiderman2 might be 90+ Meta games, and could be winning GOTY awards all over, but i wouldn't care cuz its not for me.

You play whatever shovelware that comes out on your system just so you could tell the likes of me that you're using your X, but in reality, these games feel more of a chore to you than anything else, and i find this to be incredibly pathetic. Your gaming experience feels more like work than entertainment, and that is so bad, incredibly bad.

Brutal but truthful. All the Xbox fannies on this site adhere to the bolded. Even a certain special shill while at first was trying to save face by siding with the absolutely scathing reviews against redfall, later was forcing himself through the game and pretending to enjoy it.

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#94  Edited By loudheadphones
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@nod_calypse said:

@loudheadphones: Lol, no. All Souls are Miyazaki through and through.

Can't stand peeps trying to take credit away from that guy.

Dark Souls surely , but looks like you can't stand a fact that Sony APPROACHED From with an idea about fantasy RPG. Demon's Souls is Sony and Miyazaki baby, not Miyazaki alone. And almost 20 years later you are now port begging a Sony IP,, Demon's Souls and trying heavily twist a damn fact that Sony approached From about developing a new RPG for PS platform

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@loudheadphones said:
@nod_calypse said:

@loudheadphones: Lol, no. All Souls are Miyazaki through and through.

Can't stand peeps trying to take credit away from that guy.

Dark Souls surely , but looks like you can't stand a fact that Sony APPROACHED From with an idea about fantasy RPG. Demon's Souls is Sony and Miyazaki baby, not Miyazaki alone. And almost 20 years later you are now port begging a Sony IP,, Demon's Souls and trying heavily twist a damn fact that Sony approached From about developing a new RPG for PS platform

Nah, dude. It's all PR crap. Sony approached Miyazaki, and he told them about his vision. They paid for it. I promise you that's how it went, no matter what Sony says. Miyazaki is a true original.

As for port begging, lol. I'm literally playing Demon's Souls right now on my PS5.

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#96 loudheadphones
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@nod_calypse said:
@loudheadphones said:
@nod_calypse said:

@loudheadphones: Lol, no. All Souls are Miyazaki through and through.

Can't stand peeps trying to take credit away from that guy.

Dark Souls surely , but looks like you can't stand a fact that Sony APPROACHED From with an idea about fantasy RPG. Demon's Souls is Sony and Miyazaki baby, not Miyazaki alone. And almost 20 years later you are now port begging a Sony IP,, Demon's Souls and trying heavily twist a damn fact that Sony approached From about developing a new RPG for PS platform

Nah, dude. It's all PR crap. Sony approached Miyazaki, and he told them about his vision. They paid for it. I promise you that's how it went, no matter what Sony says. Miyazaki is a true original.

As for port begging, lol. I'm literally playing Demon's Souls right now on my PS5.

It isn't PR crap. Sony 100% FUNDED the development? LOL. Yes, port begging because it is an IP OWNED by Sony. MS funded Quantum Break develooment 100% and it is MSs IP. Should i port begging Quantum Break then? Nope.

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@randy_lahey: You paid up yet?

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#98 hardwenzen
Member since 2005 • 42366 Posts

@sealionact said:

@randy_lahey: You paid up yet?

Leave him the f alone, lemming. He will pay when 343i stop being one of the worst the gaming industry has to offer, sealionact. Is that understood?

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#99 pmanden
Member since 2016 • 3290 Posts

@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
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@HalcyonScarlet said:

Grow up.

Its you who have a thing or two to learn, bro.

Elitism when it comes to gaming is a thought process I let go of a long long time ago.

And that is why i know much more than you ever will.

As I said... Goofy. :-S

If there is one thing I have learned about hardwenzen, it is that if there is something he doesn't like, it is supposed to be the universal truth. "Microsoft is crap, Xbox is crap, Gamepass only has shovelware, Ubisoft is crap, Assassin's Creed is crap". It is counterproductive to discuss these subjects with him.

Anyway, I played Redfall today for the first time since its abysmal release. The game has improved a lot. A few more patches and a better frame rate and we might actually have a winner on our hands. I'll start playing Redfall once I have finished Far Cry 6 (Another game that hardwenzen hates with passion).

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#100 sealionact
Member since 2014 • 10043 Posts

@hardwenzen: I think at this time Randy is the only clown on these pages that is getting owned and laughed at more than you….

No wonder you feel the need to protect him.