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#1 Q_Sensei
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I think Sony will be the next Wii this upcoming generation. The console with the inferior Hardware, except this time it won't be sporting any gimmick anyone will care about.



While Sony is trying to mimick the Wii as much as possible (And will likely fail, since it's charging $80 for its doppelganger) Microsoft has expanded motion control to beyond the controller - and Nintendo has taken Sony's feeble attempts at 3D and made it into something more accessible.



What does Sony have now? Not much, the competition is going to kick its butt - again.

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#2 LegatoSkyheart
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I don't think you got the memo a few months ago but Sony is actually getting a Profit off of the PS3 now.

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#3 Modern_Unit
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No, they're catching up

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what a waste of internet space

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#5 Modern_Unit
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I don't think you got the memo a few months ago but Sony is actually getting a Profit off of the PS3 now.

LegatoSkyheart

Me neither because the last time i heard was that they were losing $18/PS3

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#6 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

I don't think you got the memo a few months ago but Sony is actually getting a Profit off of the PS3 now.

Modern_Unit

Me neither because the last time i heard was that they were losing $18/PS3

It's been awhile since I've seen the article. someone said something about it here, unless I'm mistaken.

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#7 GodofEmpires
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what a waste of internet space

mushi799
Exactly what I'm thinking. I remember that worldwide the PS3 is catching up to the 360. I think the gap is down to 4 something million.
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#8 Zero_epyon
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I don't think you got the memo a few months ago but Sony is actually getting a Profit off of the PS3 now.

LegatoSkyheart
It's also gaining more developer support, expanding services and consistently getting best exclusives to date. If any console is slowing down, it's the wii and 360. Wii for barely any good 3rd party games and 360 for minuscule 1st party support. PS3 seems to have a good balance of both.
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#9 Hahadouken
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Kinect is going to be a colossal failure, and Move probably will too, but the difference is Sony is offering it as an extraneous peripheral service, not rebranding their whole console and changing their image behind it. Kinect is not something MS should be banking so much on. The difference between a 3DTV that costs several thousand dollars and a Nintendo DS in 3D should be pretty obvious, but if you like 4-inch LED screens more than full-size HDTVs, cool beans bro.
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#11 Ragnarok1051
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2008 called and it wants it's thread back.

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#12 GramDubs
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they are now making a profit, i got the memo 3 months ago, and nhow is their hardware inferior? when their hardware has been, was and is superior. if anything, sony has enough hardware to skip the next generation and compete with xbox 720 and wii 2. hitachi made a blu ray that holds 250 or 500 gigs of space, cant remember which one.

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#13 KevinButlerVP
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actually they have been getting better and better ever single year
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#14 JordanizPro
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they are now making a profit, i got the memo 3 months ago, and nhow is their hardware inferior? when their hardware has been, was and is superior. if anything, sony has enough hardware to skip the next generation and compete with xbox 720 and wii 2. hitachi made a blu ray that holds 250 or 500 gigs of space, cant remember which one.

GramDubs

I know the PS3 is powerful but your exaggerating way too much when you say it can compete with the Xbox 720.

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#15 KBFloYd
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you know where else sony copied the wii besides the wiimote?

little big planet and modnation cutomization are just a ripoff of mii creating.

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#16 psn8214
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Nah, they're doing well I think. MOVE is shaping up a hell of a lot better than Kinect too.

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#17 Q_Sensei
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Soooooooo, TC.... your saying that people would rather pay the very much rumoured 150$ for Kinect than 50$ for MOVE ( the sub-controller is completely optional)? Or 100$ for the pack with MOVE+CAM+GAME?...

I'm pretty sure that neither will sell all that well, but 100$ is much less then 150$... and you could still add thte sub-controller and it would be 130$... so yeah...

But I do agree that SONY's take on 3D is gonna fail hard.

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Kinect is 4 player without having to buy more controllers. To get the same multiplayer with the Move you'd need to spend at least $200. Also, the sub controller may be optional, but playing with the sixxaxis will be extremely uncomfortable one-handed. Tack that on to the party experience, and you're looking at $320.
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#18 lundy86_4
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they are now making a profit, i got the memo 3 months ago, and nhow is their hardware inferior? when their hardware has been, was and is superior. if anything, sony has enough hardware to skip the next generation and compete with xbox 720 and wii 2. hitachi made a blu ray that holds 250 or 500 gigs of space, cant remember which one.

GramDubs

Blu-Ray won't enhance the graphics, and it's entirely possible next gens iterations will be pumping out games at 1080P (the next highest adoption resolution for HDTV's). PS3 handles games at 720p, similar to the 360 in a majority of cases, and won't be able to pump out games many games at 1080p.

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#19 Q_Sensei
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they are now making a profit, i got the memo 3 months ago, and nhow is their hardware inferior? when their hardware has been, was and is superior. if anything, sony has enough hardware to skip the next generation and compete with xbox 720 and wii 2. hitachi made a blu ray that holds 250 or 500 gigs of space, cant remember which one.

GramDubs
The 360 has better graphics potential than the PS3. It can't skip a gen, by no means. It barely keeps up this gen.
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[QUOTE="GramDubs"]

they are now making a profit, i got the memo 3 months ago, and nhow is their hardware inferior? when their hardware has been, was and is superior. if anything, sony has enough hardware to skip the next generation and compete with xbox 720 and wii 2. hitachi made a blu ray that holds 250 or 500 gigs of space, cant remember which one.

Q_Sensei
The 360 has better graphics potential than the PS3. It can't skip a gen, by no means. It barely keeps up this gen.

The why haven't we seen anything like Uncharted 2 on the 360?
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#21 Q_Sensei
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[QUOTE="Q_Sensei"][QUOTE="GramDubs"]

they are now making a profit, i got the memo 3 months ago, and nhow is their hardware inferior? when their hardware has been, was and is superior. if anything, sony has enough hardware to skip the next generation and compete with xbox 720 and wii 2. hitachi made a blu ray that holds 250 or 500 gigs of space, cant remember which one.

Ragnarok1051
The 360 has better graphics potential than the PS3. It can't skip a gen, by no means. It barely keeps up this gen.

The why haven't we seen anything like Uncharted 2 on the 360?

Uncharted's graphics aren't THAT great. Not so great that I'm suddenly not impressed by Alan Wake and Mass Effect 2 anymore.
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#22 SaudiFury
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you know where else sony copied the wii besides the wiimote?

little big planet and modnation cutomization are just a ripoff of mii creating.

KBFloYd
please save it... we've all heard this arguement of who starting what and who is copying who. etc. etc...
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#23 sieg6529
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Obvious what is obvious? Seriously, Sony won the format wars and they're beginning to turn a profit on the console. They may not be clear winners, but they are not clearly losing.
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#24 JordanizPro
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Q_Sensei"] The 360 has better graphics potential than the PS3. It can't skip a gen, by no means. It barely keeps up this gen.Q_Sensei
The why haven't we seen anything like Uncharted 2 on the 360?

Uncharted's graphics aren't THAT great. Not so great that I'm suddenly not impressed by Alan Wake and Mass Effect 2 anymore.

This is true

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#25 OrianaDorta
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Inferior hardware? you're wrong, Blu ray kicked HD-DVD's ass a long time ago.

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#26 Q_Sensei
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Inferior hardware? you're wrong, Blu ray kicked HD-DVD's ass a long time ago.

OrianaDorta
Missed the "upcoming generation" part, didn't you?
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#27 TheDrunkenLord
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What does Sony have now? Not much, the competition is going to kick its butt - again.

Q_Sensei

your whole post was moronic, but I felt like quoting this bit just because of the ridiculousness of it. Clearly I forgot when the PS2 failed last gen.

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#28 88mphSlayer
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I think Sony will be the next Wii this upcoming generation. The console with the inferior Hardware, except this time it won't be sporting any gimmick anyone will care about.



While Sony is trying to mimick the Wii as much as possible (And will likely fail, since it's charging $80 for its doppelganger) Microsoft has expanded motion control to beyond the controller - and Nintendo has taken Sony's feeble attempts at 3D and made it into something more accessible.



What does Sony have now?

Q_Sensei

games?

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[QUOTE="Q_Sensei"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Q_Sensei"] The 360 has better graphics potential than the PS3. It can't skip a gen, by no means. It barely keeps up this gen.

The why haven't we seen anything like Uncharted 2 on the 360?

Uncharted's graphics aren't THAT great. Not so great that I'm suddenly not impressed by Alan Wake and Mass Effect 2 anymore.

Yet the 360 has more potential? How about they both have the same potential?
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#31 Q_Sensei
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[QUOTE="Q_Sensei"]

What does Sony have now? Not much, the competition is going to kick its butt - again.

TheDrunkenLord

your whole post was moronic, but I felt like quoting this bit just because of the ridiculousness of it. Clearly I forgot when the PS2 failed last gen.

It got its butt kicked this gen, which is what I'm referring to. There's no denying it. It'll be next gen by the time they catch up, and by that point it won't matter anymore because the war will start all over again.
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#32 Zero_epyon
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[QUOTE="Q_Sensei"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Q_Sensei"] The 360 has better graphics potential than the PS3. It can't skip a gen, by no means. It barely keeps up this gen.

The why haven't we seen anything like Uncharted 2 on the 360?

Uncharted's graphics aren't THAT great. Not so great that I'm suddenly not impressed by Alan Wake and Mass Effect 2 anymore.

I think uncharted 2 looks better than both of those games. aside from ME 2 on PC. However, Uncharted isn't on the 360 simply because it's owned by Sony.
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#33 psn8214
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ME 2 on PC Zero_epyon

... looks amazing. I was so pleased with how Bioware addressed all the little graphical faults the first one had.

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#34 Zero_epyon
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I think Sony will be the next Wii this upcoming generation. The console with the inferior Hardware, except this time it won't be sporting any gimmick anyone will care about.



While Sony is trying to mimick the Wii as much as possible (And will likely fail, since it's charging $80 for its doppelganger) Microsoft has expanded motion control to beyond the controller - and Nintendo has taken Sony's feeble attempts at 3D and made it into something more accessible.



What does Sony have now? Not much, the competition is going to kick its butt - again.

Q_Sensei

Do people forget that the Wii and PS3 launched in the same month and they both had motion sensing controllers? Do they also know that the PS3 controllers still do motion sensing but the games that have been made don't support it as much? Why is that? Is it because it was hard or was it because it didn't fit into the direction of the game? So here comes Sony with a new motion controller. Somehow it's a Wiimote rip off. How so?

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#35 Zero_epyon
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[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]ME 2 on PC psn8214

... looks amazing. I was so pleased with how Bioware addressed all the little graphical faults the first one had.

Yes they did. Although the one think that bugged me is that the character models were superb all the way to their arms and hands. Their hands looked like plastic at times.
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#36 OrianaDorta
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[QUOTE="OrianaDorta"]

Inferior hardware? you're wrong, Blu ray kicked HD-DVD's ass a long time ago.

Q_Sensei

Missed the "upcoming generation" part, didn't you?

So you came from the future? how do you know there won't be a better PlayStation console (maybe PS4) in the "upcoming generation"? you're assuming that Sony will fail and there won't be any more PS in the future?

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#37 Silverbond
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I completely, totally, and wholeheartedly disagree.

MS is the one falling behind. Someone like me has absolutely no need for whatever it is they're pushing these days.

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#38 Q_Sensei
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[QUOTE="Q_Sensei"][QUOTE="OrianaDorta"]

Inferior hardware? you're wrong, Blu ray kicked HD-DVD's ass a long time ago.

OrianaDorta

Missed the "upcoming generation" part, didn't you?

So you came from the future? how do you know there won't be a better PlayStation console (maybe PS4) in the "upcoming generation"? you're assuming that Sony will fail and there won't be any more PS in the future?

I'm saying that what Sony is trying to do right now isn't bold enough - it's not what is going to sell them consoles - and it's not what's going to get them support.
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[QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

I don't think you got the memo a few months ago but Sony is actually getting a Profit off of the PS3 now.

LegatoSkyheart

Me neither because the last time i heard was that they were losing $18/PS3

It's been awhile since I've seen the article. someone said something about it here, unless I'm mistaken.

I don't know how much money they make per PS3, but I do know that they lost almost 1 billion dollars in the PS3 division this last fiscal year (which includes 6 months of the PS3 slim)

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I completely, totally, and wholeheartedly disagree.

MS is the one falling behind. Someone like me has absolutely no need for whatever it is they're pushing these days.

Silverbond
Agreed. Kinect is just a blatant attempt to cash in on the casual gaming boom started by the Wii. Not that Move isn't inspired by the Wii too, but it seems to me like it's more a continuation of what Sony tried to do with the Eyetoy.
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#41 aia89
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I think Sony will be the next Wii this upcoming generation. The console with the inferior Hardware, except this time it won't be sporting any gimmick anyone will care about.



While Sony is trying to mimick the Wii as much as possible (And will likely fail, since it's charging $80 for its doppelganger) Microsoft has expanded motion control to beyond the controller - and Nintendo has taken Sony's feeble attempts at 3D and made it into something more accessible.



What does Sony have now? Not much, the competition is going to kick its butt - again.

Q_Sensei

games, exclusive games, something that Microsoft doesn't seem to care about anymore. and I'm an xbox 360 owner.

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#42 FIipMode
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I disagree, more like catching up.
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#43 Origami_Kill3r
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what a waste of internet space

mushi799

this

you know where else sony copied the wii besides the wiimote?

little big planet and modnation cutomization are just a ripoff of mii creating.

KBFloYd

 Dude just stop

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#44 coolkid93
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I don't think that Sony will get it's butt kicked again. So saying that they're falling behind= fail.
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#45 Origami_Kill3r
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I don't think that Sony will get it's butt kicked again. So saying that they're falling behind= fail.coolkid93
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#46 nhh18
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sony is laggering behind. Their games are awful and the console is junk.

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#47 Hexagon_777
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I don't think you got the memo a few months ago but Sony is actually getting a Profit off of the PS3 now.

LegatoSkyheart

So? They are making a profit per PlayStation 3 sold now but what about the losses that the PlayStation 3 incurred? Those don't magically vanish. Heck, apparently the PlayStation 3 lost all the profit that the PlayStation and the PlayStation 2 made but I may be wrong here.

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#48 Zero_epyon
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

I don't think you got the memo a few months ago but Sony is actually getting a Profit off of the PS3 now.

Hexagon_777

So? They are making a profit per PlayStation 3 sold now but what about the losses that the PlayStation 3 incurred? Those don't magically vanish. Heck, apparently the PlayStation 3 lost all the profit that the PlayStation and the PlayStation 2 made but I may be wrong here.

They get absorbed by the software, movie and peripheral sales. Did you know that MS is still in a huge $6 Billion hole and are now for the first time since they started in the gaming industry making some money?
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#49 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]I don't think you got the memo a few months ago but Sony is actually getting a Profit off of the PS3 now.Zero_epyon
So? They are making a profit per PlayStation 3 sold now but what about the losses that the PlayStation 3 incurred? Those don't magically vanish. Heck, apparently the PlayStation 3 lost all the profit that the PlayStation and the PlayStation 2 made but I may be wrong here.

They get absorbed by the software, movie and peripheral sales. Did you know that MS is still in a huge $6 Billion hole and are now for the first time since they started in the gaming industry making some money?

I am surprised both are still continuing their ventures. Shareholders will get annoyed eventually, however.

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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

I don't think you got the memo a few months ago but Sony is actually getting a Profit off of the PS3 now.

Zero_epyon

So? They are making a profit per PlayStation 3 sold now but what about the losses that the PlayStation 3 incurred? Those don't magically vanish. Heck, apparently the PlayStation 3 lost all the profit that the PlayStation and the PlayStation 2 made but I may be wrong here.

They get absorbed by the software, movie and peripheral sales. Did you know that MS is still in a huge $6 Billion hole and are now for the first time since they started in the gaming industry making some money?

By now I assume you mean since 2008