Sony is falling behind.

I think Sony will be the next Wii this upcoming generation. The console with the inferior Hardware, except this time it won't be sporting any gimmick anyone will care about.

While Sony is trying to mimick the Wii as much as possible (And will likely fail, since it's charging $80 for its doppelganger) Microsoft has expanded motion control to beyond the controller - and Nintendo has taken Sony's feeble attempts at 3D and made it into something more accessible.

What does Sony have now? Not much, the competition is going to kick its butt - again.

Q_Sensei

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]So? They are making a profit per PlayStation 3 sold now but what about the losses that the PlayStation 3 incurred? Those don't magically vanish. Heck, apparently the PlayStation 3 lost all the profit that the PlayStation and the PlayStation 2 made but I may be wrong here.

ohthemanatee

By now I assume you mean since 2008

I think Sony will be the next Wii this upcoming generation. The console with the inferior Hardware, except this time it won't be sporting any gimmick anyone will care about.

While Sony is trying to mimick the Wii as much as possible (And will likely fail, since it's charging $80 for its doppelganger) Microsoft has expanded motion control to beyond the controller - and Nintendo has taken Sony's feeble attempts at 3D and made it into something more accessible.

What does Sony have now? Not much, the competition is going to kick its butt - again.

Q_Sensei

Alright, i'll feed the troll.

HOW or WHY in the world would they EVER decide to have inferior hardware in the next generation? Your first statement makes no such sense nor does it even try to backup your own claims. Your simply shoving it down our throats in hoping we'd think its chocolate cake.

and im quite awfully sorry, but if anything MS will fail with its Kinect more than Sony's move. Like it was said earlier, Sony isnt trying to rebrand itself with Move. Its simply introducing a new way of playing their games on their consoles. An optional way to play it. Microsoft on the other hand is basically selling itself out to the increase income by creating this whole persona that microsoft is also trying to appeal to casuals and that the xbox360 is also a family console like the wii.

The amount of FAIL that is carried on the back of the Kinect IF it should fail is tremendous.

and one side we have the price of the Kinect which is; $149 - Without games (as far as we know) and without the XBOX360 packed along with it.

and on the other side we have the type of games coming out for Kinect; - Kinectsports? Kinect adventures? Kinectimals? These are ALL casual games. Look, im not gonna lie to you. I have a XBOX360 and i can't think of one person that i know that has a 360 that plays casual games. What does this mean? it means that microsoft has a LOT of ground to cover to convince its Hardcore fanbase its even worth it.

Also, microsoft also needs to acknowlege that its Hardcore fanbase WILL be its downfall if they fail to keep up with new games for that kind of fanbase opposed to pleasing only the casual fanbase after the release of Kinect (It wouldn't be too hard)

Another thing that i should fairly point out to you about SONY'S 3D gaming - have you tried it? i doubt you have. Have you tried out the 3DS? i doubt you have.

Sony's 3D and the 3DS generate TWO DIFFERENT KINDS OF 3D.

Sony's 3D is the true 3D. The kind that pops out of your screen.

The 3DS uses the kind of 3D that creates more of an in-depth 3D where you see layers of layers of the game. It basically plays around with the focus and outer focus of the games.

This kind of 3D can be experience on your own if you have an HDTV and an IMAX 3D glasses. Wear one and start playing V'games. The effect you get from playing with IMAX glasses is the same kind of experience you'll have playing the 3DS.

LAST OF ALL.

What does SONY have?

what in the world does MICROSOFT has?

They had THE worse E3 conference out of the other companies. Showing only a small amount of games while the other half was the Kinect.

Sony on the other hand came out with the big guns BEFORE E3 even came around.

So no, Sony is on the right track.

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] They get absorbed by the software, movie and peripheral sales. Did you know that MS is still in a huge $6 Billion hole and are now for the first time since they started in the gaming industry making some money?Zero_epyon

By now I assume you mean since 2008

here you go

you know where else sony copied the wii besides the wiimote?

little big planet and modnation cutomization are just a ripoff of mii creating.

KBFloYd

LOL. I didn't know you can creat MII levels on the Wii? I guess I will have to try that. NOT.

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

By now I assume you mean since 2008

ohthemanatee

here you go

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] I have to take a look at the chart again but even if they haven't made up $6 Billion in 2 years.Zero_epyon

here you go

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

here you go

Hexagon_777

Uncharted's graphics aren't THAT great. Not so great that I'm suddenly not impressed by Alan Wake and Mass Effect 2 anymore. Q_Sensei

Mass Effect (either of them) aren't exclusive.

Alan Wake, however, Alan Wake is a Flop considering that game was in development for 5 years.......Marketing wise, technically wise (sub HD), and critically (83 Metacritic)

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] HA! I thought I remembered reading it from a thread of yours. I can't mistake the manatee! But yeah it actually shows MS is just now at -$6 Billion so it was even worse before. But my point really is that if MS is working with a $6B loss and is still in business of selling games and consoles, what makes TC so sure that Sony will fail worse than MS or Nintendo next gen? Zero_epyon

[QUOTE="Q_Sensei"]

I think Sony will be the next Wii this upcoming generation. The console with the inferior Hardware, except this time it won't be sporting any gimmick anyone will care about.

While Sony is trying to mimick the Wii as much as possible (And will likely fail, since it's charging $80 for its doppelganger) Microsoft has expanded motion control to beyond the controller - and Nintendo has taken Sony's feeble attempts at 3D and made it into something more accessible.

What does Sony have now? Not much, the competition is going to kick its butt - again.

muffintheduffin

Alright, i'll feed the troll.

HOW or WHY in the world would they EVER decide to have inferior hardware in the next generation? Your first statement makes no such sense nor does it even try to backup your own claims. Your simply shoving it down our throats in hoping we'd think its chocolate cake.

and im quite awfully sorry, but if anything MS will fail with its Kinect more than Sony's move. Like it was said earlier, Sony isnt trying to rebrand itself with Move. Its simply introducing a new way of playing their games on their consoles. An optional way to play it. Microsoft on the other hand is basically selling itself out to the increase income by creating this whole persona that microsoft is also trying to appeal to casuals and that the xbox360 is also a family console like the wii.

The amount of FAIL that is carried on the back of the Kinect IF it should fail is tremendous.

and one side we have the price of the Kinect which is; $149 - Without games (as far as we know) and without the XBOX360 packed along with it.

and on the other side we have the type of games coming out for Kinect; - Kinectsports? Kinect adventures? Kinectimals? These are ALL casual games. Look, im not gonna lie to you. I have a XBOX360 and i can't think of one person that i know that has a 360 that plays casual games. What does this mean? it means that microsoft has a LOT of ground to cover to convince its Hardcore fanbase its even worth it.

Also, microsoft also needs to acknowlege that its Hardcore fanbase WILL be its downfall if they fail to keep up with new games for that kind of fanbase opposed to pleasing only the casual fanbase after the release of Kinect (It wouldn't be too hard)

Another thing that i should fairly point out to you about SONY'S 3D gaming - have you tried it? i doubt you have. Have you tried out the 3DS? i doubt you have.

Sony's 3D and the 3DS generate TWO DIFFERENT KINDS OF 3D.

Sony's 3D is the true 3D. The kind that pops out of your screen.

The 3DS uses the kind of 3D that creates more of an in-depth 3D where you see layers of layers of the game. It basically plays around with the focus and outer focus of the games.

This kind of 3D can be experience on your own if you have an HDTV and an IMAX 3D glasses. Wear one and start playing V'games. The effect you get from playing with IMAX glasses is the same kind of experience you'll have playing the 3DS.

LAST OF ALL.

What does SONY have?

what in the world does MICROSOFT has?

They had THE worse E3 conference out of the other companies. Showing only a small amount of games while the other half was the Kinect.

Sony on the other hand came out with the big guns BEFORE E3 even came around.

So no, Sony is on the right track.

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] No...Desmonic

Indeed you do... MS's gaming division might not be as "heatlhy" as Sony's, but MS as a company should be bigger than Sony me thinks.. heck, they have like 7 Billion $ just for research alone!! ( learned this from a conference some MS representative guy gave here in Portugal earlier this year)

Well it depends on what you mean. MS is not a bigger company than Sony, they just make way more profits than Sony does.

The difference between the sales of the two consoles is only 4 million. 360 was released a year before Playstation 3, and yet the difference has been reduced. So the fact is that Microsoft are the ones who are falling behind and Sony is gaining up, and with the list of exclusives that playstation has, i am pretty sure that small gap will be covered soon enough.

And the day when Playstation 3 sales surpasses 360 sales, even if it is at the end of this generation, you 360 FANBOYS WILL BE OWNED FOR LIFE. So i advice you to please be quiet.

The difference between the sales of the two consoles is only 4 million. 360 was released a year before Playstation 3, and yet the difference has been reduced. So the fact is that Microsoft are the ones who are falling behind and Sony is gaining up, and with the list of exclusives that playstation has, i am pretty sure that small gap will be covered soon enough.

And the day when Playstation 3 sales surpasses 360 sales, even if it is at the end of this generation, you 360 FANBOYS WILL BE OWNED FOR LIFE. So i advice you to please be quiet.

SheikhMuhammad

[QUOTE="SheikhMuhammad"]

The difference between the sales of the two consoles is only 4 million. 360 was released a year before Playstation 3, and yet the difference has been reduced. So the fact is that Microsoft are the ones who are falling behind and Sony is gaining up, and with the list of exclusives that playstation has, i am pretty sure that small gap will be covered soon enough.

And the day when Playstation 3 sales surpasses 360 sales, even if it is at the end of this generation, you 360 FANBOYS WILL BE OWNED FOR LIFE. So i advice you to please be quiet.

genaroll

Nice to see that both of you guys have time machines. Now can you go to the future and tell me when FFVXIII is gonna be released?

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Isn't Microsoft a wealthier company than Sony?

Zero_epyon

[QUOTE="genaroll"][QUOTE="SheikhMuhammad"]

The difference between the sales of the two consoles is only 4 million. 360 was released a year before Playstation 3, and yet the difference has been reduced. So the fact is that Microsoft are the ones who are falling behind and Sony is gaining up, and with the list of exclusives that playstation has, i am pretty sure that small gap will be covered soon enough.

And the day when Playstation 3 sales surpasses 360 sales, even if it is at the end of this generation, you 360 FANBOYS WILL BE OWNED FOR LIFE. So i advice you to please be quiet.

OneLazyAsian

Nice to see that both of you guys have time machines. Now can you go to the future and tell me when FFVXIII is gonna be released?

[QUOTE="mushi799"]

what a waste of internet space

GodofEmpires

[QUOTE="SheikhMuhammad"]

The difference between the sales of the two consoles is only 4 million. 360 was released a year before Playstation 3, and yet the difference has been reduced. So the fact is that Microsoft are the ones who are falling behind and Sony is gaining up, and with the list of exclusives that playstation has, i am pretty sure that small gap will be covered soon enough.

And the day when Playstation 3 sales surpasses 360 sales, even if it is at the end of this generation, you 360 FANBOYS WILL BE OWNED FOR LIFE. So i advice you to please be quiet.

genaroll

[QUOTE="OneLazyAsian"]

[QUOTE="genaroll"] Noone bought the xbox everyone bought a ps2.Microsoft wasn't in gaming during the ps1 times.Xbox 360 comes it's more popular than the ps3 even with the 1 gen headstart.So you have no reason to use the headstart excuse.So you keep quiet because the ps3 won't surpass the 360 it will catch up but won't surpass it.genaroll

Nice to see that both of you guys have time machines. Now can you go to the future and tell me when FFVXIII is gonna be released?

Wow..already released and I didn't even know it. Gotta run to the store then!

[QUOTE="OneLazyAsian"]

[QUOTE="genaroll"] Noone bought the xbox everyone bought a ps2.Microsoft wasn't in gaming during the ps1 times.Xbox 360 comes it's more popular than the ps3 even with the 1 gen headstart.So you have no reason to use the headstart excuse.So you keep quiet because the ps3 won't surpass the 360 it will catch up but won't surpass it.genaroll

Nice to see that both of you guys have time machines. Now can you go to the future and tell me when FFVXIII is gonna be released?

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] No...Hexagon_777

[QUOTE="genaroll"][QUOTE="OneLazyAsian"]

Nice to see that both of you guys have time machines. Now can you go to the future and tell me when FFVXIII is gonna be released?

OneLazyAsian

Wow..already released and I didn't even know it. Gotta run to the store then!

[QUOTE="OneLazyAsian"]

[QUOTE="genaroll"] June 19 2011.Do you want to know the lotto?genaroll

Wow..already released and I didn't even know it. Gotta run to the store then!

Didn't I tell you I was from the future? I came back to see what 2010 was like and was amazed to find fellow time travelers here as well!

[QUOTE="genaroll"][QUOTE="SheikhMuhammad"]

The difference between the sales of the two consoles is only 4 million. 360 was released a year before Playstation 3, and yet the difference has been reduced. So the fact is that Microsoft are the ones who are falling behind and Sony is gaining up, and with the list of exclusives that playstation has, i am pretty sure that small gap will be covered soon enough.

And the day when Playstation 3 sales surpasses 360 sales, even if it is at the end of this generation, you 360 FANBOYS WILL BE OWNED FOR LIFE. So i advice you to please be quiet.

SheikhMuhammad

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] Edit: Whoops! I take that back...Need more research...Zero_epyon

I saw trouble from the moment this thread was made its a first class felony to accuse or slam Sony in anyway in SW... what were you thinking OT!

I saw trouble from the moment this thread was made its a first class felony to accuse or slam Sony in anyway in SW... what were you thinking OT!

TacticalDesire

It's not exactly ridiculous to compare the Move to the Wii.

What is ridiculous is to see Kinect as some kind of awesome way to play games. It's also ridiculous to not connect Kinect to the Eyetoy.

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

I saw trouble from the moment this thread was made its a first class felony to accuse or slam Sony in anyway in SW... what were you thinking OT!

Zero_epyon

It's pretty hard sticking to something that didn't exist in the first place. TC had no facts or evidence to support his silly claims. All he had were assumptions about what Sony would do and the epic failure that would ensure after they do it. No facts, just assumptions.

[QUOTE="GramDubs"]

they are now making a profit, i got the memo 3 months ago, and nhow is their hardware inferior? when their hardware has been, was and is superior. if anything, sony has enough hardware to skip the next generation and compete with xbox 720 and wii 2. hitachi made a blu ray that holds 250 or 500 gigs of space, cant remember which one.

Q_Sensei

360 better graphics potential than PS3 :D

your hilarious

It's not exactly ridiculous to compare the Move to the Wii.

What is ridiculous is to see Kinect as some kind of awesome way to play games. It's also ridiculous to not connect Kinect to the Eyetoy.

Pug-Nasty

why would you connect kinect to the eyetoy? eyetoy is just a webcam. Sony didnt invent webcams.

It's pretty clear that Sony has been catching up to the 360. This latest Microsoft refresh should be considered proof of that as well. Until the effect of that then it makes no sense to try and say that the PS3 will surpass the 360, but by no means do I consider it outside the realm of possibilities.

HDDs are dropping in price all of the time, so it wouldn't surprise me terribly if Sony follows suit in the near future. What PS3 DOES have right now is the momentum (between the two, Nintendo has doubled up sales on both of them) and that is a good thing to have.

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

It's not exactly ridiculous to compare the Move to the Wii.

What is ridiculous is to see Kinect as some kind of awesome way to play games. It's also ridiculous to not connect Kinect to the Eyetoy.

markinthedark

why would you connect kinect to the eyetoy? eyetoy is just a webcam. Sony didnt invent webcams.

It should be obvious. The Eyetoy (and Eye) are ways of gaming without a controller on Sony hardware and both predate Kinect by years. Microsoft isn't even close to breaking new ground here, so some of the claims going around that Microsoft is doing something "entirely different" really don't hold up to scrutiny.

It's pretty clear that Sony has been catching up to the 360. This latest Microsoft refresh should be considered proof of that as well. Until the effect of that then it makes no sense to try and say that the PS3 will surpass the 360, but by no means do I consider it outside the realm of possibilities.

HDDs are dropping in price all of the time, so it wouldn't surprise me terribly if Sony follows suit in the near future. What PS3 DOES have right now is the momentum (between the two, Nintendo has doubled up sales on both of them) and that is a good thing to have.

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

It's not exactly ridiculous to compare the Move to the Wii.

What is ridiculous is to see Kinect as some kind of awesome way to play games. It's also ridiculous to not connect Kinect to the Eyetoy.

Aidenfury19

why would you connect kinect to the eyetoy? eyetoy is just a webcam. Sony didnt invent webcams.

It should be obvious. The Eyetoy (and Eye) are ways of gaming without a controller on Sony hardware and both predate Kinect by years. Microsoft isn't even close to breaking new ground here, so some of the claims going around that Microsoft is doing something "entirely different" really don't hold up to scrutiny.

what games do you game without a controller using the eyetoy?

I dont know what you consider breaking new ground... but kinect can do what in the past required you to wear a black spandex suit covered in ping pong balls.

[QUOTE="Q_Sensei"] Uncharted's graphics aren't THAT great. Not so great that I'm suddenly not impressed by Alan Wake and Mass Effect 2 anymore. Persistantthug

Mass Effect (either of them) aren't exclusive.

Alan Wake, however, Alan Wake is a Flop considering that game was in development for 5 years.......Marketing wise, technically wise (sub HD), and critically (83 Metacritic)

what games do you game without a controller using the eyetoy?

I dont know what you consider breaking new ground... but kinect can do what in the past required you to wear a black spandex suit covered in ping pong balls.

markinthedark

Irrelevant, but since you really want to know as an example of the PS2 eyetoy you have this: Eyetoy Play which came out in early 2003 BTW. Kinetic is (if they release on time) coming out almost eight years later, or approximately the period of time between when NES and SNES released or PS1 and PS2 released.

The Playstation Eye? It is far more capable, but is also designed to be $50 dollars alone (and has since dropped to $40). Even assuming that $150 isn't the list price for Kinetic and it winds up around $100 instead that is twice as much. Kinetic is a more precise version of technologies that have been out there for ages and your comparing it to MoCap is laughably wrong.

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

what games do you game without a controller using the eyetoy?

I dont know what you consider breaking new ground... but kinect can do what in the past required you to wear a black spandex suit covered in ping pong balls.

Aidenfury19

Irrelevant, but since you really want to know as an example of the PS2 eyetoy you have this: Eyetoy Play which came out in early 2003 BTW. Kinetic is (if they release on time) coming out almost eight years later, or approximately the period of time between when NES and SNES released or PS1 and PS2 released.

The Playstation Eye? It is far more capable, but is also designed to be $50 dollars alone (and has since dropped to $40). Even assuming that $150 isn't the list price for Kinetic and it winds up around $100 instead that is twice as much. Kinetic is a more precise version of technologies that have been out there for ages and your comparing it to MoCap is laughably wrong.

i actually played a video game at a science museum back in like 1990 when i was a little kid that was almost exactly like that eyetoy game except you squashed flying bugs. So really the eyetoy is the tech that hasnt evolved... 13 years later.

kinect is full body mocap... when previously the only way to do full body mocap was a black suit covered in ping pong balls... so i dont know how that laughably wrong.

EDIT: actually i lied memories are flooding back, i think it was even before in like 1988 and it wasnt a science museum it was setup at one of the science buildings or something at the UCONN campus it was a projector you stood in front of and saw your silhouette on the projection screen... then bugs would crawl around you and you would squish them using your silhouette. Man i thought that was the coolest thing ever. So yea, cant believe sony couldnt make any improvements on 15 year old technology with their eye toy... lulz

the original playstation was the best system of all time IMO. thats what makes this gen so surprising. they were so good and now they are so bad. yeah they have some good games but it has taken them a long time to get these games out to the public. oh how the mighty have fallen

the original playstation was the best system of all time IMO. thats what makes this gen so surprising. they were so good and now they are so bad. yeah they have some good games but it has taken them a long time to get these games out to the public. oh how the mighty have fallen

todd2r

[QUOTE="todd2r"]

the original playstation was the best system of all time IMO. thats what makes this gen so surprising. they were so good and now they are so bad. yeah they have some good games but it has taken them a long time to get these games out to the public. oh how the mighty have fallen

Hexagon_777

it was. i was such a huge sony fan. i was in like 6th or 7th grade when it came out, and i was lucky to have such good parents that would buy me the games i wanted. it seemed like every month there was another big release that came out of no where.

I dont see how Sony could be falling behind this gen TC? It was never ahead with the PS3 at any point.

[QUOTE="Q_Sensei"]

I think Sony will be the next Wii this upcoming generation. The console with the inferior Hardware, except this time it won't be sporting any gimmick anyone will care about.

While Sony is trying to mimick the Wii as much as possible (And will likely fail, since it's charging $80 for its doppelganger) Microsoft has expanded motion control to beyond the controller - and Nintendo has taken Sony's feeble attempts at 3D and made it into something more accessible.

What does Sony have now? Not much, the competition is going to kick its butt - again.

muffintheduffin

Alright, i'll feed the troll.

HOW or WHY in the world would they EVER decide to have inferior hardware in the next generation? Your first statement makes no such sense nor does it even try to backup your own claims. Your simply shoving it down our throats in hoping we'd think its chocolate cake.

and im quite awfully sorry, but if anything MS will fail with its Kinect more than Sony's move. Like it was said earlier, Sony isnt trying to rebrand itself with Move. Its simply introducing a new way of playing their games on their consoles. An optional way to play it. Microsoft on the other hand is basically selling itself out to the increase income by creating this whole persona that microsoft is also trying to appeal to casuals and that the xbox360 is also a family console like the wii.

The amount of FAIL that is carried on the back of the Kinect IF it should fail is tremendous.

and one side we have the price of the Kinect which is; $149 - Without games (as far as we know) and without the XBOX360 packed along with it.

and on the other side we have the type of games coming out for Kinect; - Kinectsports? Kinect adventures? Kinectimals? These are ALL casual games. Look, im not gonna lie to you. I have a XBOX360 and i can't think of one person that i know that has a 360 that plays casual games. What does this mean? it means that microsoft has a LOT of ground to cover to convince its Hardcore fanbase its even worth it.

Also, microsoft also needs to acknowlege that its Hardcore fanbase WILL be its downfall if they fail to keep up with new games for that kind of fanbase opposed to pleasing only the casual fanbase after the release of Kinect (It wouldn't be too hard)

Another thing that i should fairly point out to you about SONY'S 3D gaming - have you tried it? i doubt you have. Have you tried out the 3DS? i doubt you have.

Sony's 3D and the 3DS generate TWO DIFFERENT KINDS OF 3D.

Sony's 3D is the true 3D. The kind that pops out of your screen.

The 3DS uses the kind of 3D that creates more of an in-depth 3D where you see layers of layers of the game. It basically plays around with the focus and outer focus of the games.

This kind of 3D can be experience on your own if you have an HDTV and an IMAX 3D glasses. Wear one and start playing V'games. The effect you get from playing with IMAX glasses is the same kind of experience you'll have playing the 3DS.

LAST OF ALL.

What does SONY have?

what in the world does MICROSOFT has?

They had THE worse E3 conference out of the other companies. Showing only a small amount of games while the other half was the Kinect.

Sony on the other hand came out with the big guns BEFORE E3 even came around.

So no, Sony is on the right track.

wanna goto starbucks?

i like money

It's not exactly ridiculous to compare the Move to the Wii.

What is ridiculous is to see Kinect as some kind of awesome way to play games. It's also ridiculous to not connect Kinect to the Eyetoy.

Pug-Nasty

Not only just with the Eyetoy, but even this generation with the Playstation Eye.

What does Aquatopia, Mesmerize, Operation Creature Feature, Tori-Emaki, and Trials of Topoq all have in common? These were all games released in 2007 in which you play by moving your hands in front of the Playstation Eye to either control the art on the screen, or to control balls, or creatures and pushing them around the screen.

Here is a video of Creatures

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ce1Gjt-2UM

And Topoq

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YHxR0x7GSg

The only difference Kinnect has is better marketing.

actually they have been getting better and better ever single yearKevinButlerVP

Well...here is your proof folks 2012 is GOING to happen. I'm actually in agreement with KevinButlerVP for once, so when the world blows up you can thank me.

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]actually they have been getting better and better ever single yearDarkGamer007

Well...here is your proof folks 2012 is GOING to happen. I'm actually in agreement with KevinButlerVP for once, so when the world blows up you can thank me.

By "The next Wii" do you mean top in sales next gen?

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

I don't think you got the memo a few months ago but Sony is actually getting a Profit off of the PS3 now.

Modern_Unit

Me neither because the last time i heard was that they were losing $18/PS3

I don't think you got the memo a few months ago but Sony is actually getting a Profit off of the PS3 now.

LegatoSkyheart

Well sony still loses -$17 a ps3 sold so it dosnt matter if their catching up now the new gen is coming out 2011/2012 for nintendo and microsoft