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#51  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@ivangrozny said:
@ProtossRushX said:

GET IN MY HOUSE WITH RETURNAL ON MY 4k TV I DUNNO THEY ARE DOING STUFF PC AND NINTENDO AND FIRGGIN XBOX AINT DOING ANYTHING

returnal in 4k thats doing something man

returnal is a solid indie roguelite, but we have a tons of those on PC, man:

1. Hades

2. Risk of Rain

3. Void Bastards

4. Everspace.

Just from the top of my head.

They all look pretty solid, but nothing new. 😜

Returnal isn't an indie game. :-S

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#52 deactivated-628e6669daebe
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This can only mean that Sony is doomed!

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#53 tdkmillsy
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Anyone who has something to show at E3 is impressive.

The delays to gaming from corvid is obvious, they should all postpone.

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#54  Edited By Gym_Lion
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I feel sorry for this guy

Sony hired him as their official E3 flute player. And with them now abandoning E3 now he's been reduced to playing the flute out side train stations and McDonalds.

They let him keep the hat though, so every cloud and all that.

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#55 SecretPolice
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Poo bovine brigade...

lol :P

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#56 madrocketeer
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@gym_lion said:

I feel sorry for this guy

Sony hired him as their official E3 flute player. And with them now abandoning E3 now he's been reduced to playing the flute out side train stations and McDonalds.

They let him keep the hat though, so every cloud and all that.

Hehe. I'll always remember that guy. The Warframe community has been sharing memes around about him, because of his strong resemblance to the game's head dev, Steve Sinclair.

That, along with Giant Enemy Crab, Ridge Racer and other memes will probably be the lasting legacy of Sony's E3 presence. Sadly, memes alone are not enough justification to keep around a rotting carcass of an obsolete relic that is E3.

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#57 robert_sparkes
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I'd like Sony to do a state of play showing off death loop and ghost wire tokyo.

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#58 MysticalDonut  Online
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And yet, several reports have suggested the PS5 has significantly outsold the Xbox Series X/S.

https://www.gamesradar.com/ps5-outsold-xbox-series-x-by-more-than-double-in-q1-2021-analyst-reports/#:~:text=PS5%20outsold%20Xbox%20Series%20X%20and%20S%20by%20more%20than,side%20in%20a%20new%20report.

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#59 Zero_epyon
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@ivangrozny said:
@ProtossRushX said:

GET IN MY HOUSE WITH RETURNAL ON MY 4k TV I DUNNO THEY ARE DOING STUFF PC AND NINTENDO AND FIRGGIN XBOX AINT DOING ANYTHING

returnal in 4k thats doing something man

returnal is a solid indie roguelite, but we have a tons of those on PC, man:

1. Hades

2. Risk of Rain

3. Void Bastards

4. Everspace.

Just from the top of my head.

They all look pretty solid, but nothing new. 😜

Returnal isn't an indie game. :-S

Housemarque is an independent developer though.

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#60 Pedro
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@Zero_epyon said:

Housemarque is an independent developer though.

Out of 20 games they have released only two of them were self published. They have had a publisher for the other 18 games including Returnal.

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#61 dabear
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@omegamaster said:

Sony is in a league of its own. They have dominated E3 in the past.

Wut?

In the past decade, Sony has "won"... 2 E3?

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#62 deactivated-611edca0d6021
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@HalcyonScarlet: "Depends, if he's trolling, seems to have worked, because cows took the bait."

That's the lamest excuse for trying to avoid backfire. Nah, he isn't trolling, he just made a fool of himself.

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#63  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@Pedro said:
@Zero_epyon said:

Housemarque is an independent developer though.

Out of 20 games they have released only two of them were self published. They have had a publisher for the other 18 games including Returnal.

Indie titles don't have to be self published. An indie title can be a game that's created by an independent developer with full creative control of the game despite being funded by a publisher.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indie_game

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#64 Nonstop-Madness
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If anything, they've proven that they don't need to be at E3 to stomp Xbox. lol

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#65  Edited By Pedro
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@Zero_epyon said:

Indie titles don't have to be self published. An indie title can be a game that's created by an independent developer with full creative control of the game despite being funded by a publisher.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indie_game

If they are being funded by a publisher, they are not independent. It is that simple. From your own link

"An independent video game or indie game is a video game typically created by individuals or smaller development teams without the financial and t-echnical support of a large game publisher"

Creative control is not the factor that makes a game developer an indie developer.

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#66 SecretPolice
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Phony says, if you can't beat'em, quit'em. lol :P

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#67 Zero_epyon
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@Pedro said:
@Zero_epyon said:

Indie titles don't have to be self published. An indie title can be a game that's created by an independent developer with full creative control of the game despite being funded by a publisher.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indie_game

If they are being funded by a publisher, they are not independent. It is that simple. From your own link

"An independent video game or indie game is a video game typically created by individuals or smaller development teams without the financial and t-echnical support of a large game publisher"

Creative control is not the factor that makes a game developer an indie developer.

Why did you stop reading there. Literally the following setence.

"However, the "indie" term may apply to other scenarios where the development of the game has some measure of independence from a publisher even if a publisher helps fund and distribute a game, such as creative freedom."

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#68 Pedro
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@Zero_epyon said:

Why did you stop reading there. Literally the following setence.

"However, the "indie" term may apply to other scenarios where the development of the game has some measure of independence from a publisher even if a publisher helps fund and distribute a game, such as creative freedom."

Because the definition is the in the first sentence. Everything else is playing around with exceptions that detracts from the definition.

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#69 Heil68
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Well after winning E3 for the last 12+ years, its ok for them to take a break and have something on their own.

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#70 Zero_epyon
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@Pedro said:
@Zero_epyon said:

Why did you stop reading there. Literally the following setence.

"However, the "indie" term may apply to other scenarios where the development of the game has some measure of independence from a publisher even if a publisher helps fund and distribute a game, such as creative freedom."

Because the definition is the in the first sentence. Everything else is playing around with exceptions that detracts from the definition.

Ugh this again...

Welcome to the English language where words and terms can have multiple definitions.

Have fun with that.

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#71 Pedro
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@Zero_epyon said:

Ugh this again...

Welcome to the English language where words and terms can have multiple definitions.

Have fun with that.

Cool, lets have fun with definitions that contradicts each other. 😊

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#72 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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@Zero_epyon said:
@Pedro
@Zero_epyon said:

Indie titles don't have to be self published. An indie title can be a game that's created by an independent developer with full creative control of the game despite being funded by a publisher.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indie_game

said:

If they are being funded by a publisher, they are not independent. It is that simple. From your own link

"An independent video game or indie game is a video game typically created by individuals or smaller development teams without the financial and t-echnical support of a large game publisher"

Creative control is not the factor that makes a game developer an indie developer.

Why did you stop reading there. Literally the following setence.

"However, the "indie" term may apply to other scenarios where the development of the game has some measure of independence from a publisher even if a publisher helps fund and distribute a game, such as creative freedom."

Doesn't matter Returnal is AAA exclusive game. Indy games and movies are based on budget indies its based off budget not if they are independent. If it looks AAA and has a big budget its AAA. If its not big budget its an indie arthouse film etc.

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#73 faponte13
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Small storage? The difference is like 100 gigs and games installs are smaller on ps5.

And don't tell my you spend $215 on an expansion because that's just stupid. Might as well by a gaming pc at that point.

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#74 Zero_epyon
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@ProtossRushX said:
@Zero_epyon said:

Why did you stop reading there. Literally the following setence.

"However, the "indie" term may apply to other scenarios where the development of the game has some measure of independence from a publisher even if a publisher helps fund and distribute a game, such as creative freedom."

Doesn't matter Returnal is AAA exclusive game. Indy games and movies are based on budget indies its based off budget not if they are independent. If it looks AAA and has a big budget its AAA. If its not big budget its an indie arthouse film etc.

Based on the definition I quoted, budgets don't always mean they can't be indie. Indie is literally short for independent and while Sony published this game, it's Housemarque's game it's the game they wanted to build. Unless someone has evidence that Sony commission Housemarque to make Returnal and had more than 50% control over the direction of the game?

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#75 deactivated-6198641bda3ed
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Literally no games

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#76 deactivated-628e6669daebe
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@Zero_epyon: You're really stretching the definition of indie there. Housemarque was a struggling indie developer that was only able to fund their game due to Sony.

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@dabear said:
@omegamaster said:

Sony is in a league of its own. They have dominated E3 in the past.

Wut?

In the past decade, Sony has "won"... 2 E3?

They won 80% of E3 over the past decade :D

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#78 Zero_epyon
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@ghost_of_phobos said:

@Zero_epyon: You're really stretching the definition of indie there. Housemarque was a struggling indie developer that was only able to fund their game due to Sony.

I'm not.

"However, the "indie" term may apply to other scenarios where the development of the game has some measure of independence from a publisher even if a publisher helps fund and distribute a game, such as creative freedom."

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#79 HalcyonScarlet
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@wonderwinner: What do you mean "trying to avoid thread backfire"?

I don't agree with him. That's why I assumed he wasn't serious.

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#80 dabear
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@omegamaster said:
@dabear said:
@omegamaster said:

Sony is in a league of its own. They have dominated E3 in the past.

Wut?

In the past decade, Sony has "won"... 2 E3?

They won 80% of E3 over the past decade :D

Wow. Just... Wow.

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#81 Milhouse20XX
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Reading the replies made here by Sony Fanboys makes me feel like I'm talking to a Donald Trump supporter.

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#82 deactivated-654dc0d1e0e5b
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Sony already showed Horizon. They have nothing else to show until next year. That's good enough.

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#83 Pedro
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@Milhouse20XX said:

Reading the replies made here by Sony Fanboys makes me feel like I'm talking to a Donald Trump supporter.

Who said you aren't?😎

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@Milhouse20XX: Another lemming alt 😆🤣😂

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@Pedro said:

Clear bait thread that delivered. 😊

I don't know what you mean but I feel like I'm being baited so I am angry.

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#86  Edited By VFighter
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@Milhouse20XX: Oh look another alt and no surprise mods won't do a damn thing about it.

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#87 SecretPolice
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@Milhouse20XX:

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#88 NathanDrakeSwag
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@Milhouse20XX:

Yep, that's what happens to lemmings lol.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@SecretPolice said:

@Milhouse20XX:

Yep, that's what happens to lemmings lol.

Should happen to all shit posting alts regardless.

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@gym_lion said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@SecretPolice said:

@Milhouse20XX:

Yep, that's what happens to lemmings lol.

Should happen to all shit posting alts regardless.

Agreed. Most of them do seem to be lemmings though.

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#91 SecretPolice
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@gym_lion said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@SecretPolice said:

@Milhouse20XX:

Yep, that's what happens to lemmings lol.

Should happen to all shit posting alts regardless.

Agreed. Most of them do seem to be cows though.

Fixed for ya and agreed. lol :P

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Horizon's Forbidden West State of Play has 6+ million views. I don't think they really care about E3 lol. Meanwhile, Lems will be like, 'woah, Phil said world premiere 20 times bro! woah!'

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#93 Pedro
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Damn! The alt called Sony Fanboys Trump supporters and a few got triggered. 😂

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@SolidGame_basic said:

Horizon's Forbidden West State of Play has 6+ million views. I don't think they really care about E3 lol. Meanwhile, Lems will be like, 'woah, Phil said world premiere 20 times bro! woah!'

WORLD PREMIERE

...

Oh it's just another timed exclusive indie game no one has heard of lol.

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#95 SolidGame_basic
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

Horizon's Forbidden West State of Play has 6+ million views. I don't think they really care about E3 lol. Meanwhile, Lems will be like, 'woah, Phil said world premiere 20 times bro! woah!'

WORLD PREMIERE

...

Oh it's just another timed exclusive indie game no one has heard of lol.

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#96 Gym_Lion
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

Horizon's Forbidden West State of Play has 6+ million views. I don't think they really care about E3 lol. Meanwhile, Lems will be like, 'woah, Phil said world premiere 20 times bro! woah!'

WORLD PREMIERE

...

Oh it's just another timed exclusive indie game no one has heard of lol.

I thought the term 'timed exclusive' was a bit of sore point for you guys at the moment. PS5 the 'best (not only)' plac to play PS5 games.

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#97 Pedro
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@gym_lion said:

I thought the term 'timed exclusive' was a bit of sore point for you guys at the moment. PS5 the 'best (not only)' plac to play PS5 games.

Why you so mean? 😎

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Maybe they're realising that E3 isn't necessary anymore and are trying to reduce costs with digital only events.

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@Milhouse20XX: Idk what the covid situation on Mars is but here on Earth there is a semiconductor shortage because of covid so on our planet it’s really hard to find an XsX or ps5 or some of the new graphic cards