Sony (Kazuo Hirai) says they will let Mirosoft go first...

That's how they dominate.

PS3 > 360. There you go. You can see how it works now.

it wasn't just launching a year later. the price tag played a roe, and a much bigger one at that I'm sure.

anyways, I can wait

[QUOTE="Cheleman"]Smart man:cool:Kaszilla

Hes acheived more then you ever wll.

I think this is very smart, it also proves all the rumurs we have heard are mostly bs. That Sony wont let MS go first and that the hardware is pretty much finalized. Lots of things can be added in the last year , and Sony should be fine as long as it doesnt give it a full Year head start.

[QUOTE="Cheleman"][QUOTE="delta3074"]Worked well the last time:(delta3074

In all honesty not to many would debate the PS3 is indeed more powerful then the 360, was it vastly? No of course not they are extmely close but you have to look at two things that probalby wont happen this time around. One Sony most likely wont go with a radically diffrent architecture which is the main reason devs had problems. And two Sony never meant to release the PS3 a full year after the 360 it was delayed twice upon its final release because they could not manufacture enough Cell processors or Blu-ray components.

They also had nowhere near the failure rate of the 360's either.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Cheleman"] Indeed. That's why the PS3 is more powerful than the 360:DAM-Gamer

In all honesty not to many would debate the PS3 is indeed more powerful then the 360, was it vastly? No of course not they are extmely close but you have to look at two things that probalby wont happen this time around. One Sony most likely wont go with a radically diffrent architecture which is the main reason devs had problems. And two Sony never meant to release the PS3 a full year after the 360 it was delayed twice upon its final release because they could not manufacture enough Cell processors or Blu-ray components.

They also had nowhere near the failure rate of the 360's either.

Why is he talking? I haven't forgotten what he did at E3 2006, humiliating.LittleMac19

I havent forgotten what Nintendo has done the past 4 years in a row , now thats humiliating.

Sony will "let" MS go first?

More like "We know we can't compete because we are Japanese and thus useless so we let the beast that is MS win."

[QUOTE="LittleMac19"]Why is he talking? I haven't forgotten what he did at E3 2006, humiliating.AM-Gamer

I havent forgotten what Nintendo has done the past 4 years in a row , now thats humiliating.

[QUOTE="Cheleman"][QUOTE="delta3074"]Worked well the last time:(delta3074

Youre no better than these "rabid cows". Nothing worse than a fanboy that tries to act neutral lmao. You prefer 360 just like the "rabid cows" prefer PS3. I guess only PS fans are fanboys, amiright? Gtfo

This is smart, Sony is waiting for MS to announce a price for their SKU, so that they can price their own console competitively.

I just don't think this guy gets it. The Vita for instance is a GREAT HANDHELD(Alot better then 3ds IMO) but the stupidity of Sony with their overpriced memory cards and stupid pricing plans make it a hard buy. They let a key franchise leave(Monster Hunter) and continue their arrogance. Do I have to mention the non gaming department and how "well" they are doing? Such a shame too. Who knows, maybe they can wow us all and "one up" microsoft but looking at the vita and move, I doubt they will learnfueled-system

To be honest without the overpriced memory cards the system could have been hacked just like th PSP and it wouldnt have mattered if people bought 10x more vitas then they have now , they would have no source of revenue. Now if they hack the Vita they stll have to buy the memory cards, so Sony was basically coming up with a backup up plan incase it got hacked. And move has sold over 15 million and has done nothing but make them profit( although I could care less about it ) .

Its also not Sonys fault htey lost MH blame that on Capcom.

[QUOTE="fueled-system"]I just don't think this guy gets it. The Vita for instance is a GREAT HANDHELD(Alot better then 3ds IMO) but the stupidity of Sony with their overpriced memory cards and stupid pricing plans make it a hard buy. They let a key franchise leave(Monster Hunter) and continue their arrogance. Do I have to mention the non gaming department and how "well" they are doing? Such a shame too. Who knows, maybe they can wow us all and "one up" microsoft but looking at the vita and move, I doubt they will learnAM-Gamer

To be honest without the overpriced memory cards the system could have been hacked just like th PSP and it wouldnt have mattered if people bought 10x more vitas then they have now , they would have no source of revenue. Now if they hack the Vita they stll have to buy the memory cards, so Sony was basically coming up with a backup up plan incase it got hacked. And move has sold over 15 million and has done nothing but make them profit( although I could care less about it ) .

Its also not Sonys fault htey lost MH blame that on Capcom.

Last to market would be terrible for them. This is the last thing Sony need.

Its simple Sony. You don't just copy everybody because they are doing it and "make it better" because that just makes you the "me too" guy. This will sell about as well as Gamecube.

Sounds like Microsoft will be at an advantage as far as sales go if they release before Holiday 2013. That will give Microsoft a string of Holiday sales under their belt, not to mention this will be Nintendo's second Holiday blast. We'll see how this goes.

Sounds like Microsoft will be at an advantage as far as sales go if they release before Holiday 2013. That will give Microsoft a string of Holiday sales under their belt, not to mention this will be Nintendo's second Holiday blast. We'll see how this goes.

Zophar87

This is in terms of announcing, not releasing.

He's right, what's the rush? People are expecting PS4 to come out in 2013, it will come out in late 2014, which is the best for them.

The teenagers of System Wars should really look into running Sony because they obviously know better than educated Japanese men in their 40s, 50s, and 60s.Drasonak

I know right, all these kids suddenly have business degrees and run their own companies.

What a gentleman Sony is, letting the lady go first.

You just don't see that much today.

What a gentleman Sony is, letting the lady go first.

You just don't see that much today.

ReadingRainbow4

Couldn't this just be about the actual reveal and not the launch?danish-death

shhhh, let the morons gesticulate :P

[quote="Kazuo Hirai"]

Why go first, when your competitors can look at your specifications and come up with something better?

HaRmLeSS_RaGe

Translation - "There is no way we can release PS4 before Nextbox as we are skint. Therefore we shall pretend this is a strategic decision".

:lol:

Always smart to let your competitors go first, not smart however to give them a year headstart

[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

[QUOTE="redikan"]Being slightly more powerful doesnt cut it anymore. By now we should be able to agree that the PS3 was slightly more powerful than the 360. But Microsoft understood that delivering first was the real goal, not being more poewerful. They got into peoples homes first and became the lead platform and maintained that throughout this cycle. Other than Console exclusives the PS3 gimped itself in the multiplat arena by not being the Lead platform, and therefore to the masses couldnt consistently show its slight technical prowess. I wouldnt take that gamble on holding out so you can manufacture a console that has slightly better specs. Come out first and get publishers using your machine to set the standard for multiplats.ZombieKiller7

Exactly... it's like if you'd get your hands first on XboX, wouldn't almost all your friends also follow you and buy Xbox just so you can all play together online and trade games, and then friends of your friends would also prefer MS for the same reason. It's like a chain reaction... I'm surprised Sony didn't realized that until now (Nintendo did)

What game is that in your sig?

Cyberpunk 2077

there's no reason for sony to repeat the mistakes they made last gen unless they really have no idea what they're doing anymore.

there's no reason for sony to repeat the mistakes they made last gen unless they really have no idea what they're doing anymore.

KarateeeChop

the mistake was the price not the launch date. Even if both would have been released at the same time people would have bought the Xbox because it was way cheaper.

This worked out well for the PS3, PSP, and Vita.

:|

Ouch... was not expecting sony to lag behind again. Not good. Unless hes talking about weeks and not months or god forbid, a year. Sony needs to come out this gen as the dynamic company they once were in the industry... not sure this is a good move.TheEroica

This worked out well for the PS3, PSP, and Vita.

:|

StrongDeadlift

Sony will "let" MS go first?

More like "We know we can't compete because we are Japanese and thus useless so we let the beast that is MS win."

Rockman999

Ummm, Nintendo Wii?

[QUOTE="j_assassin"]lots of genius businessmen in this thread! sony should just read SW forum and take advise from the posters in here.blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][quote="Kazuo Hirai"]

Why go first, when your competitors can look at your specifications and come up with something better?

Wasdie

Well it depends. They could have multiple hardware configurations in development, and depending on what their competitors do, they could select one for final production. It's not like they need to start from scratch. They could decide to up the amount of ram or a clockspeed of something to increase power over their competition.

Really it's going to come down to non-hardware features like the operating system that is going to really separate these consoles. They sound like they'll be almost identical in terms of hardware.

Steve Balmer: We will let Sony go bust first.

RIP Sony, we'll all miss you....a little.

Kaz: "We cannot let them copy us, we will copy them instead" It's all strategy, friends :).rjdofu

and bombing publishers with money for more exclusives games

Let them go first as in see what MS has so Sony can copy it.BPoole96

As long has PS4 is under 400 bucks Sony should be fine.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]Let them go first as in see what MS has so Sony can copy it.nervmeister

[QUOTE="rjdofu"]Kaz: "We cannot let them copy us, we will copy them instead" It's all strategy, friends :).majestix1988

and bombing publishers with money for more exclusives games

As long as they don't give Microsoft a full year like they did before.

Wasdie

This

A few months will cause no problems. A year + on the other hand....

[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]Let them go first as in see what MS has so Sony can copy it.BPoole96