[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]
[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"]
Anything is marketable if enough money is thrown at doing so. This is proven every single year Ive been alive, by adverts selling things to people they dont really want or need.
As an example, Apple have the best marketing in the world, and manage to sell what is essentially the same product with minor improvements, in the millions to people that already own them.
In Sony's case, they dont do marketing very well. They need to improve their marketing, and in doing so would improve sales.
The very best marketing I have seen this gen was by Nintendo. Not long after the Wii released, they understocked a large part of the UK and other countries, delibertaly. The result was massive hype for the Wii by everyone non gamer, as all the tabloids were reporting how difficult they were to get for Christmas, but everyone wanted one. Online prices sky rocketed, and every store sold out, just because 'they were so hard to find'.
Of course, Nintendo ensured stores had just enough consoles, but never an abundance. It was genius.....
I would like to see an IP from Sony that consoles lack. Namley, a good RTS. Sony could do this, and either have move support or release the game with a mouse peripheral, rather than maiming it by forcing pad use. I think they could do well with that, no other console has managed a good RTS.
BibiMaghoo
i don't believe this at all. There is always something 'right' about those products, something that somehow defies classification of the time. Just like MarioKart, where the game is lacking by many gameplay standards and yet everyone seems to have a blast with the local multiplayer, ingenious in certain ways really (and btw Nintendo hardly markets Mariokart compared to the marketing other big name series get).I dont get what you are saying with this, or how it was relevant to my post?
You really think that Apple products are only successful because marketers tell them to like it?
No, I never said that. However, it is a large contributing factor, weather you agree or not. They have wonderfull marketing, and release minor upgrades of products so frequently its laughable. They sell in the millions. It isnt because the majority of people want those minor upgrades lol, for some it is though granted.
You really think that the only reason the wii was a success was because they artificially limited supply? (and yet the wii was the fastest selling console of all time)
No, again I never said that. Also again lol, it was a large contributing factor to its success in my country at the time.
You have made alot of assumptions in your post, taking a very different meaning from what I posted. I suggest you read it again. I never said 'only reason' with either point. That would be stupid. They were simply factors that added to the success of both examples.
I'm aware that you probably don't believe marketing is everything but I think that marketing is an overrated art to begin with. Sony isn't having problems because of poor marketing. They are making bad product decisions. They are just literally copying what is already there and their original content is very polished but otherwise underwhelming, my guess being that it just isn't fresh. Someone here mentioned how Killzone should have been more popular, up to the standards of Call of Duty or whatever, and I completely disagree. The Killzone series is just underwhelming (I did play through some of Killzone 2 and most of Killzone 3).
Marketing is virtually insignificant. It is required to get your name out but it can't make an inferior product successful. The wii was successful because it was so fresh. It was the easiest thing in the world to market. The buzz around the wii was that they were impossible to find, which was not some perception created by nintendo AT ALL. It was created by actual supply shortages caused by it being the fastest selling console of all time. Same thing for Apple products. Marketing was easy because the product is desirable.
If Sony thinks that changing their marketing strategy will solve their problems, they will be signing their death certificate. What they need to do is make products people want at a price they can afford.
I don't know what assumptions you think I'm making. It's all there in your post.
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