Sony Loses 3.32 billion On PS3 In 2 Years

Ps3 may have lost 3 billion but it was expected on Sonys half before released and does not hurt the PS brand as near as much as Xbox360.Sony said right before release PS3 is going to lose money at the start which is why Sony isn't making any excuses.Ps3 will recoup all loses made at a way faster pace then Xbox360 at the risk of losing money off the bat.Reasons you say?Well PS3 will turn in about 3-4 years profit at the end of its life and drove Blu-ray to be the winning format which will bring in money to Sony for atlest 10 years to come.Also unlike Xbox360,Sony still has PS2 and PSP on the market today making profit which incase to this date Sonys gaming divisions lose alot less then Micosofts Gaming division.People Also seem to forget that PS2 lost money for its first year or two also.Gun-Unit

Sony has more hardware systems on the market, which sells more software, and in term, makes more profit. If Sony killed the PS2 and didn't make the PSP, they would seriously be in the RED right now with the PS3 Having those systems is what has kept their gaming division out of the RED. M$ only has the XBox and they made the mistake of killing it right after the XBox 360 was released, which was dumb. I think the only reason they did this was because they were still losing money on the XBox and not making enough profit with the software. Still, I think if they had kepted it going for another 2yrs or so them would have made some profits on hardware and software. Because the XBox 360 is now making profits on the hardware and software, I doubt M$ will kill this system when the new XBox gets released. Why stop something that's making you money? That's the main reason Sony kept the PS2 going. It was consistantly making profts for them. Why stop that? Also, M$ losed 5 billion with the XBox and the losses they had with the XBox 360 have already be paided out. I believe M$ wiped the 5 billion loss of the XBox with profits from their software division and started fresh when the XBox 360 got released. So right now their gaming division is in the black.

There is one difference between PS3 and Xbox though...

Xbox did nothing for MS..

PS3 won the Format war for Sony..

omgimba

How exactly? They are behind in all respects, apart from Hardware reliability and that doesn't win a Format War. Even if the Format War was over then Wii would be ahead.

[QUOTE="nintendog66"]

[QUOTE="XanderZane"] Sony Loses 3.32 billion On PS3 In 2 Yearsnervmeister

AND out of all that money, 3.0 billion was spent on paying reviewers for MGS4's score.

Sorry i had to say it...

If a PS3 game gets ported to 360, it's pwnage.

If a 360 game gets ported to PS3 , it's sloppy seconds.

If a 360 exclusive gets a 9 or higher, the review was fair and unbiased.

If a PS3 exclusive gets a 9 or higher, it's because Sony bribed reviewers.

Your fanboyish double standards are really beginning to piss me off.:evil:

That's because ports nearly always turn out crap on the PS3...

Cow has stated several times in the past that the original XBox has lost 7 and even 8 billion during it 5 years on the market. That couldn't be further from the truth. It has lost almost 5 billion in 5 years. It lost 4 billion in it's first 4 years and a little less then a billion in it's final 5th year. Sure, that's a lot, but since M$ makes about 40 billion in revenue each year, it hasn't hurt them that much. Since they are finally out of the RED with the new XBox 360, things are looking up.

http://www.joystiq.com/2005/09/26/forbes-xbox-lost-microsoft-4-billion-and-counting/

Now, lets look at Sony. They released a $499 and $599 PS3 in 2006, which costed them $800 to make and immediately was losing $200-$300 on every PS3 sold. Before the systems were releaesd Sony was boasting that the systems would sell even if there were no games for it. Even though they did sell a large chuck of their PS3 during the holidays, many gamers who bought them were trying to sell them on EBay for profit. When they found out that people weren't going to pay $800-$1500 for the overpriced, overhyped system, they returned them to Gamestop, Wal-Mart and Best Buy. http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/some-scalpers-give-up-return-ps3s-to-stores-224386.php

Now we find out from Sony that they have lossed more then 3.32 billion on the PS3 in less then 2yrs. What!?!?! They are losing more money on the PS3 in less time then the XBox ever did. They lossed 2.16 billion their fiscal 2007 and 1.16 billion their fiscal 2008. How much will then lose in their fiscal 2009? Having 2 price drops in less then 6 months probably didn't help them either. Even as I type this Sony continues to lose money on every PS3 sold. With M$ ready to drop their price again at this years E3, how will Sony counter? Having the 80GB MGS4 bundle is great, but they are losing money on those as well.

http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/ps3-has-cost-sony-332-billion-so-far/?biz=1

Yes, we know the PS3 is selling better today and is actually starting to catch the XBox 360, but Sony is losing billions in doing so. Even though they are selling more hardware, the Wii and XBox 360 is still killing them in software sales worldwide. We all know that Sony, Nintendo & M$ make more money from software, not hardware. Why do you think Microsoft is out of the RED now? When you have over 40 titles that have sold over a million copies each, you make serious profits.

http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=X360&publisher=&sort=Total

So how can Sony turn their woes around and actually start earning some profits from the PS3? Discuss.

XanderZane

Wanna know how many billions Sony will earn from winning the high definition format war? It's all because of the PS3 too.

[QUOTE="XanderZane"]

Cow has stated several times in the past that the original XBox has lost 7 and even 8 billion during it 5 years on the market. That couldn't be further from the truth. It has lost almost 5 billion in 5 years. It lost 4 billion in it's first 4 years and a little less then a billion in it's final 5th year. Sure, that's a lot, but since M$ makes about 40 billion in revenue each year, it hasn't hurt them that much. Since they are finally out of the RED with the new XBox 360, things are looking up.

http://www.joystiq.com/2005/09/26/forbes-xbox-lost-microsoft-4-billion-and-counting/

Now, lets look at Sony. They released a $499 and $599 PS3 in 2006, which costed them $800 to make and immediately was losing $200-$300 on every PS3 sold. Before the systems were releaesd Sony was boasting that the systems would sell even if there were no games for it. Even though they did sell a large chuck of their PS3 during the holidays, many gamers who bought them were trying to sell them on EBay for profit. When they found out that people weren't going to pay $800-$1500 for the overpriced, overhyped system, they returned them to Gamestop, Wal-Mart and Best Buy. http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/some-scalpers-give-up-return-ps3s-to-stores-224386.php

Now we find out from Sony that they have lossed more then 3.32 billion on the PS3 in less then 2yrs. What!?!?! They are losing more money on the PS3 in less time then the XBox ever did. They lossed 2.16 billion their fiscal 2007 and 1.16 billion their fiscal 2008. How much will then lose in their fiscal 2009? Having 2 price drops in less then 6 months probably didn't help them either. Even as I type this Sony continues to lose money on every PS3 sold. With M$ ready to drop their price again at this years E3, how will Sony counter? Having the 80GB MGS4 bundle is great, but they are losing money on those as well.

http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/ps3-has-cost-sony-332-billion-so-far/?biz=1

Yes, we know the PS3 is selling better today and is actually starting to catch the XBox 360, but Sony is losing billions in doing so. Even though they are selling more hardware, the Wii and XBox 360 is still killing them in software sales worldwide. We all know that Sony, Nintendo & M$ make more money from software, not hardware. Why do you think Microsoft is out of the RED now? When you have over 40 titles that have sold over a million copies each, you make serious profits.

http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=X360&publisher=&sort=Total

So how can Sony turn their woes around and actually start earning some profits from the PS3? Discuss.

Jrfanfreak88

Wanna know how many billions Sony will earn from winning the high definition format war? It's all because of the PS3 too.

Blu-Ray sales are so far abysmal so...

[QUOTE="XanderZane"]would[QUOTE="omgimba"]

There is one difference between PS3 and Xbox though...

Xbox did nothing for MS..

PS3 won the Format war for Sony..

Gun-Unit

I wouldn't say that. The XBox allowed Microsoft to break into the gaming market and has taken a significany amount of shares from Sony. The XBox 360 has helped M$ get out of the debt that the original XBox put them in. It also helped them establish a quality brand in the gaming market. True the 360 hardware isn't perfect, but the software M$ was able to get for the system has reap huge rewards for M$. They have over 40 titles that have sold more then 1 million copies on their 360. Developers like to see those type of numbers. Why do you think Capcom is so giddy now to make XBox 360 games? Even Namco, who didn't do much on the original XBox, see the 360 as a viable profit machine for their software. So to say that XBox did nothing for M$ would be wrong.

Even though the PS3 won the format wars for Sony, Blu-Ray still isn't a dominate factor in current media yet. DVD is still killing it in sales every month and Blu-Ray isn't really making any huge strides to replace DVD. A lot of people just do see it as a huge difference over DVD, except is storage. There are also other media formats in the wing and with Digial Download becoming more popular, many don't believe Blu-Ray will ever succeed DVD's.

Read this article. http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9876100-1.html

Of course DVD is outselling Blu-ray it should since Blu-ray is new,but what you also forget to bring up is that Blu-ray is gaining shares faster then DVD did in the amount of time on the market.

You have a link for that? Not saying it isn't true because you are forgetting the DVD's was expensive for a much longer period then Blu-Ray. DVD prices didn't really start dropping until almost 3 years on the market. Blu-Ray prices has started dropping less then a year on the market. So it's possible that Blu-Ray has more shares faster. You're also forgetting the DVD's is much, much larger then VHS in numbers, so even though Blu-Ray started off better then DVD's, doesn't mean it'll succeed DVD's any faster then DVD's succeeded VHS. The difference between DVD's and VHS format was HUGE. The difference between Blu-Ray and DVD's are not that huge. With VHS, you couldn't come anywhere close to the quality of DVD's. There was no way of making the quality of VHS as good as DVD. With DVD's, you can upscale to 1080p, which is the same resolution as Blu-Ray. Of course Blu-Ray still looks better because of the codec and the laser, but the difference isn't as big as VHS -> DVD. A lot of people are noticing this and many are sticking with DVD's. Blu-Ray is also helping DVD prices to drop, which make consumer buy even more DVD's. ;) You have the same movie on sale on Blu-Ray for $21.99 and on DVD for $13.99. Which one do you think consumers are going to buy? It's a no brainer, unless your a hardcore movie fanatic who must have the best.

old news, plus sony is still profitting and their plans are for the ps3 to profit eventually unlike MS (yes i know they are profitting barely recently, but the RROD has set them back again not good ). the ps2 and psp are keeping the balance. sony is not worried.Rage010101

Dude, the XBox 360 has been profitting for almost a year now. The RROD hasn't set they back much at all. Sure it cost then a billion for the 3yr warranty, but consumers are still snapping up XBox 360 all over the world. The Jasper 360's come out in a couple months and RROD will be a thing of the past. M$ will announce a price drop at the E3 and the XBox 360 will have a nice surge of sales before the fall.

http://www.destructoid.com/robbie-bach-customers-forgave-us-for-the-rrod-still-love-their-xbox-360s-90604.phtml

Sony isn't as worried now because they won the format wars, but they shouldn't rely on Blu-Ray to much. It still has a huge hill to climb with DVD's still owning 95% of the market, Digital Downloads on the rise and other media formats waiting in the wing. Sony's smartest move was keeping the PS2 going and releasing the PSP. Yes, the DS is killing the PSP, but the PSP is still a very good handheld system. I own both and have been playing my PSP more and more now that FFVII: Crisis Core and Hot Shots Golf: OT2 got released.