Sony losing money on PS3 is not the same as MS losing money on xbox.

PS3 helped alot in all the money sony makes or will make in the future from blue ray but that is not reflected in the financials for PS3.But MS doesnt get any other benefit from xbox.

The xbox and xbox 360 has been a total disaster for MS but the PS3 isnt exactly as big a business failure as you may like to think.;)

There you go,spin it,and a HD format isnt going to replace dvd any time soon.xgraderx

if Sony loses money it's not the same because the sony organisation runs on magical pixie dust so they don't need money and they have

The only people who say that losing 3.3 billion dollars is a bad thing are fanboys

Yes, if Blu Ray really does replace DVD then Sony really has made more profit than they would have with a PS3 without Blu Ray.UnrealSin_X

when!

if Sony loses money it's not the same because the sony organisation runs on magical pixie dust so they don't need money and they have

The only people who say that losing 3.3 billion dollars is a bad thing are fanboys

vicmackey39

Point me to one person saying losing any amount of money is a good thing.

There you go,spin it,and a HD format isnt going to replace dvd any time soon.xgraderx

apparantly the adoption rate is much faster compared to when DVD was 1st introduced.

PS3 helped alot in all the money sony makes or will make in the future from blue ray but that is not reflected in the financials for PS3.But MS doesnt get any other benefit from xbox.

The xbox and xbox 360 has been a total disaster for MS but the PS3 isnt exactly as big a business failure as you may like to think.;)

Spybot_9

wait wait, so your always bashing consoles and saying that the PC is superior and now your defending the PS3?

[QUOTE="xgraderx"]There you go,spin it,and a HD format isnt going to replace dvd any time soon.Swift_Boss_A

apparantly the adoption rate is much faster compared to when DVD was 1st introduced.

[QUOTE="Spybot_9"]

PS3 helped alot in all the money sony makes or will make in the future from blue ray but that is not reflected in the financials for PS3.But MS doesnt get any other benefit from xbox.

The xbox and xbox 360 has been a total disaster for MS but the PS3 isnt exactly as big a business failure as you may like to think.;)

st1ka

wait wait, so your always bashing consoles and saying that the PC is superior and now your defending the PS3?

[QUOTE="Spybot_9"]

PS3 helped alot in all the money sony makes or will make in the future from blue ray but that is not reflected in the financials for PS3.But MS doesnt get any other benefit from xbox.

The xbox and xbox 360 has been a total disaster for MS but the PS3 isnt exactly as big a business failure as you may like to think.;)

st1ka

wait wait, so your always bashing consoles and saying that the PC is superior and now your defending the PS3?

Lol, the first that came to mind when I read who the TC was.

Point me to one person saying losing any amount of money is a good thing.

Chutebox

Wow what a fanboy

losing 3.3 billion dollars is a great success and makes Sony the top money losing company in the world

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Point me to one person saying losing any amount of money is a good thing.

vicmackey39

Wow what a fanboy

losing 3.3 billion dollars is a great success and makes Sony the top money losing company in the world

Dude, reading comprehension at all?

What about all those overpriced accesories and Live Gold, thats how they make a profit, and the games they publish.

And VC-1 plezzzzz.

MS also makes money off teh Rayz of Blu.

PS3 helped alot in all the money sony makes or will make in the future from blue ray but that is not reflected in the financials for PS3.But MS doesnt get any other benefit from xbox.

The xbox and xbox 360 has been a total disaster for MS but the PS3 isnt exactly as big a business failure as you may like to think.;)

Spybot_9

I guess you missed the articles where Microsoft gaming Division is in black for the past couple of quarters. They took a huge hit in one quarter but that doesn't effect the rest of its profits from the following quarters. It is were a total disaster we would see red quarters all the time for MS but we aren't.

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="Spybot_9"]

PS3 helped alot in all the money sony makes or will make in the future from blue ray but that is not reflected in the financials for PS3.But MS doesnt get any other benefit from xbox.

The xbox and xbox 360 has been a total disaster for MS but the PS3 isnt exactly as big a business failure as you may like to think.;)

Spybot_9

wait wait, so your always bashing consoles and saying that the PC is superior and now your defending the PS3?

Thank you. I appreciate the laughter you have just brought me!

You're comparing apples to oranges. Sony's profits from Bluray division isn't the same as their games division.

Sony is a huge corporation that has many different divisions, as does Microsoft. The game divisions of Sony and Microsoft are both turning profits for the company right now, it isn't like the 360 is pulling Microsoft down. And M$ always has windows which could keep a failing games division afloat for enternity.

PS3 helped alot in all the money sony makes or will make in the future from blue ray but that is not reflected in the financials for PS3.But MS doesnt get any other benefit from xbox.

The xbox and xbox 360 has been a total disaster for MS but the PS3 isnt exactly as big a business failure as you may like to think.;)

Spybot_9

When is the last time you researched the Xbox financial standings? The XBox 360 has been profiting for almost a year now on ever system sold. M$ announced at the end of the 1st quarter that they were out of the RED that the original XBox had put them in.

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/04/25/microsofts-xbox-division-turns-a-profit-again/

They are profitting every quarter right now, while Sony is still losing money on every PS3 sold. The only thing really keeping Sony out of the red is their PS2, HDTV, PSP and Blu-Ray players/movies. Do some research next time.

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="Spybot_9"]

PS3 helped alot in all the money sony makes or will make in the future from blue ray but that is not reflected in the financials for PS3.But MS doesnt get any other benefit from xbox.

The xbox and xbox 360 has been a total disaster for MS but the PS3 isnt exactly as big a business failure as you may like to think.;)

Spybot_9

wait wait, so your always bashing consoles and saying that the PC is superior and now your defending the PS3?

actually on almost evey other thread you bring opinion rathen then truth

A 3 billion dollar loss is a 3 billion dollar loss no matter how much you try and spin it.

Stop the DC. NOW.

[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]Yes, if Blu Ray really does replace DVD then Sony really has made more profit than they would have with a PS3 without Blu Ray.Chutebox

when!

It still an "IF" right now. You do realize that there are OTHER media being created that is actually better then Blu-Ray right? Get on the web and do some research man.

Also, Blu-Ray sales has been selling about the same %'s compared to DVD for the last 6 months. Blu-Ray's% over DVD has not really increased that much. It's going to be a long time before Blu-Ray becomes the norm. I'm happy just watching my DVD's upscaled to 1080P on my 360 or PS3. lol!! No need to switch.

What you call a total disaster for MS I call me being able to play great games, why do I care if Sony or MS makes more or less money.

That's their problem my problem is playing games.

Even with any problems I have with MS I can't imagine how lame this gen would have been without them,.

[QUOTE="Spybot_9"]

PS3 helped alot in all the money sony makes or will make in the future from blue ray but that is not reflected in the financials for PS3.But MS doesnt get any other benefit from xbox.

The xbox and xbox 360 has been a total disaster for MS but the PS3 isnt exactly as big a business failure as you may like to think.;)

XanderZane

When is the last time you researched the Xbox financial standings? The XBox 360 has been profiting for almost a year now on ever system sold. M$ announced at the end of the 1st quarter that they were out of the RED that the original XBox had put them in.

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/04/25/microsofts-xbox-division-turns-a-profit-again/

They are profitting every quarter right now, while Sony is still losing money on every PS3 sold. The only thing really keeping Sony out of the red is their PS2, HDTV, PSP and Blu-Ray players/movies. Do some research next time.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]Yes, if Blu Ray really does replace DVD then Sony really has made more profit than they would have with a PS3 without Blu Ray.XanderZane

when!

It still an "IF" right now. You do realize that there are OTHER being created that is actually better then Blu-Ray right? Get on the web and do some research man.

Also, Blu-Ray sales has been selling about the same %'s compared to DVD for the last 6 months. Blu-Ray's% over DVD has not really increased that much. It's going to be a long time before Blu-Ray becomes the norm. I'm happy just watching my DVD's upscaled to 1080P on my 360 or PS3. lol!! No need to switch.

[QUOTE="XanderZane"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]Yes, if Blu Ray really does replace DVD then Sony really has made more profit than they would have with a PS3 without Blu Ray.skektek

when!

It still an "IF" right now. You do realize that there are OTHER being created that is actually better then Blu-Ray right? Get on the web and do some research man.

Also, Blu-Ray sales has been selling about the same %'s compared to DVD for the last 6 months. Blu-Ray's% over DVD has not really increased that much. It's going to be a long time before Blu-Ray becomes the norm. I'm happy just watching my DVD's upscaled to 1080P on my 360 or PS3. lol!! No need to switch.

They can't do that to quickly. If they did they would ultimately loose the format. It's not that people don't wan't Blu-ray or HDTVs but the fact that the majority can't afford or care to buy it. Forcing it on people won't help.

[QUOTE="skektek"][QUOTE="XanderZane"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]Yes, if Blu Ray really does replace DVD then Sony really has made more profit than they would have with a PS3 without Blu Ray.JLF1

when!

It still an "IF" right now. You do realize that there are OTHER being created that is actually better then Blu-Ray right? Get on the web and do some research man.

Also, Blu-Ray sales has been selling about the same %'s compared to DVD for the last 6 months. Blu-Ray's% over DVD has not really increased that much. It's going to be a long time before Blu-Ray becomes the norm. I'm happy just watching my DVD's upscaled to 1080P on my 360 or PS3. lol!! No need to switch.

They can't do that to quickly. If they did they would ultimately loose the format. It's not that people don't wan't Blu-ray or HDTVs but the fact that the majority can't afford or care to buy it. Forcing it on people won't help.

too bad bluray is a clear failure and has no chance of being accepted by the masses. The minute next gen internet hits the ground, bluray is obsolete.

PS3 helped alot in all the money sony makes or will make in the future from blue ray but that is not reflected in the financials for PS3.But MS doesnt get any other benefit from xbox.

The xbox and xbox 360 has been a total disaster for MS but the PS3 isnt exactly as big a business failure as you may like to think.;)

Spybot_9

your living in a dream world, it took many many years to DVD to replace VHS... in half the time you will be able to stream 1080P direct to your TV at the push of a button, so why would anyone want to get in a car, fill up with $5+ gas and drive to the store when they can just hit a button and watch the movie.

[QUOTE="XanderZane"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]Yes, if Blu Ray really does replace DVD then Sony really has made more profit than they would have with a PS3 without Blu Ray.skektek

when!

It still an "IF" right now. You do realize that there are OTHER being created that is actually better then Blu-Ray right? Get on the web and do some research man.

Also, Blu-Ray sales has been selling about the same %'s compared to DVD for the last 6 months. Blu-Ray's% over DVD has not really increased that much. It's going to be a long time before Blu-Ray becomes the norm. I'm happy just watching my DVD's upscaled to 1080P on my 360 or PS3. lol!! No need to switch.

[QUOTE="XanderZane"][QUOTE="Spybot_9"]

PS3 helped alot in all the money sony makes or will make in the future from blue ray but that is not reflected in the financials for PS3.But MS doesnt get any other benefit from xbox.

The xbox and xbox 360 has been a total disaster for MS but the PS3 isnt exactly as big a business failure as you may like to think.;)

skektek

When is the last time you researched the Xbox financial standings? The XBox 360 has been profiting for almost a year now on ever system sold. M$ announced at the end of the 1st quarter that they were out of the RED that the original XBox had put them in.

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/04/25/microsofts-xbox-division-turns-a-profit-again/

They are profitting every quarter right now, while Sony is still losing money on every PS3 sold. The only thing really keeping Sony out of the red is their PS2, HDTV, PSP and Blu-Ray players/movies. Do some research next time.

They are already out of the RED dude, so you do the math. They weren't in a 7 billion dollar debt. It was more like 5 billion and that was for 6years. Sony lost more then 2 billion in just 6 months. Plus they took at a load from insurance stocks. M$ make like 25B a year.

The fact still remains that they are profitting now and making lots and lots of $$$$, which really isn't news for Microsoft.

PS3 helped alot in all the money sony makes or will make in the future from blue ray but that is not reflected in the financials for PS3.But MS doesnt get any other benefit from xbox.

The xbox and xbox 360 has been a total disaster for MS but the PS3 isnt exactly as big a business failure as you may like to think.;)

Spybot_9

[QUOTE="xgraderx"]There you go,spin it,and a HD format isnt going to replace dvd any time soon.UnrealSin_X

mini disc never took over the CD ;)

[QUOTE="XanderZane"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]Yes, if Blu Ray really does replace DVD then Sony really has made more profit than they would have with a PS3 without Blu Ray.skektek

when!

It still an "IF" right now. You do realize that there are OTHER being created that is actually better then Blu-Ray right? Get on the web and do some research man.

Also, Blu-Ray sales has been selling about the same %'s compared to DVD for the last 6 months. Blu-Ray's% over DVD has not really increased that much. It's going to be a long time before Blu-Ray becomes the norm. I'm happy just watching my DVD's upscaled to 1080P on my 360 or PS3. lol!! No need to switch.

They'll only do that if people are buying large quanities of Blu-Ray movies. If they are putting Blu-Ray movies on retail shelves and they aren't flying off the shelves and they have to restock them every couple of weeks, the studios aren't going to force anything. The consumers control what they buy, not the manufacturers. Consumers still love DVD's and the fact that they can get their picture in 1080p with DVD's for cheap, why would they rush to upgrade? With cable companies showing movies in HD and providing DVR's & TIVO to save them, the demand for DVD's and Blu-Ray movies are going to slow anyways. Studios are going to phase out DVD's anytime soon. Not when they are selling 95% DVD's to 5% Blu-Ray movies. LOL!! Tell me I'm wrong. Studios would lose millions in profits if they did something that stupid right now.

[QUOTE="skektek"][QUOTE="XanderZane"][QUOTE="Spybot_9"]

PS3 helped alot in all the money sony makes or will make in the future from blue ray but that is not reflected in the financials for PS3.But MS doesnt get any other benefit from xbox.

The xbox and xbox 360 has been a total disaster for MS but the PS3 isnt exactly as big a business failure as you may like to think.;)

XanderZane

When is the last time you researched the Xbox financial standings? The XBox 360 has been profiting for almost a year now on ever system sold. M$ announced at the end of the 1st quarter that they were out of the RED that the original XBox had put them in.

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/04/25/microsofts-xbox-division-turns-a-profit-again/

They are profitting every quarter right now, while Sony is still losing money on every PS3 sold. The only thing really keeping Sony out of the red is their PS2, HDTV, PSP and Blu-Ray players/movies. Do some research next time.

They are already out of the RED dude, so you do the math. They weren't in a 7 billion dollar debt. It was more like 5 billion and that was for 6years. Sony lost more then 2 billion in just 6 months. Plus they took at a load from insurance stocks. M$ make like 25B a year.

The fact still remains that they are profitting now and making lots and lots of $$$$, which really isn't news for Microsoft.

Yup, the 360 is now profitable, and when is a profitable business venture a "total disaster" yeah try again

that isnt relevant.

MS lost money, sony lost money. there is no gettign around it, no excuses to be made to "soften the blow".

[QUOTE="Spybot_9"]

PS3 helped alot in all the money sony makes or will make in the future from blue ray but that is not reflected in the financials for PS3.But MS doesnt get any other benefit from xbox.

The xbox and xbox 360 has been a total disaster for MS but the PS3 isnt exactly as big a business failure as you may like to think.;)

spinecaton

I guess you missed the articles where Microsoft gaming Division is in black for the past couple of quarters. They took a huge hit in one quarter but that doesn't effect the rest of its profits from the following quarters. It is were a total disaster we would see red quarters all the time for MS but we aren't.

RROD is something which has it's roots from the moment development of the 360 started till this day.It's not a one-off event that MS jusat charged for one quarter.When the xbox devision breaks even in the next 10 years then wake me up.Oh ya in case you dont understand they will have to make profits of around $8 billion to break even.

[QUOTE="XanderZane"][QUOTE="Spybot_9"]

PS3 helped alot in all the money sony makes or will make in the future from blue ray but that is not reflected in the financials for PS3.But MS doesnt get any other benefit from xbox.

The xbox and xbox 360 has been a total disaster for MS but the PS3 isnt exactly as big a business failure as you may like to think.;)

skektek

When is the last time you researched the Xbox financial standings? The XBox 360 has been profiting for almost a year now on ever system sold. M$ announced at the end of the 1st quarter that they were out of the RED that the original XBox had put them in.

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/04/25/microsofts-xbox-division-turns-a-profit-again/

They are profitting every quarter right now, while Sony is still losing money on every PS3 sold. The only thing really keeping Sony out of the red is their PS2, HDTV, PSP and Blu-Ray players/movies. Do some research next time.

Why do people keep posting this......Has everybody forgot about the boat-loads of money from PS1 an PS2 and PSP. MS did not have that.MikeE21286

You're right, they have that thing called "Windows", you may have heard of it. :P

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Why do people keep posting this......Has everybody forgot about the boat-loads of money from PS1 an PS2 and PSP. MS did not have that.Nagidar

Yuo're right, they have that thing called "Windows", you may have heard of it. :P

Windows is actually on most computers Sony sells. Thank you Sony for helping MS stay in business...