Sony lost 5 billion on PS3, losing more money than ANY console in history

PS4 is a go, locked and loaded. Strap yourself in, gonna be a wild muther fuking ride. Instant day 1 buy..oh yeahhhHeil68

Since you use that pathetic would-be catch phrase all the time, I hope you at least copy/paste it... Actually typing this BS all the time is lethal to your dignity, you know?

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

[QUOTE="groverslanding"]You seem to fail to grasp the concept that just because Sony made a couple hundred million between 2009-2010, that in no way accounts for 5 billion losses in suffered between 2007-2009. Now their gaming division is losing money again.

In total it looks like they'll be out 7 to 8 billion in their gaming division since 2007 with the way the Vita is performing.

groverslanding

In the recent comapny-wide meeting, the CEO stated that the gaming division will bring them "incredible profit."

"In game business we will target steady profits in the core game business and we also worked to spend in and expend the network services business, the two majors that we've sided already will be implemented steadily. The PlayStation business is a platform model based upon strong and competitive hardware. PlayStation 3 is in its sixth year and is now generating steady profit. We expect PlayStation 3, the newly introduced PlayStation Vita which we reported to the market last year and PSP which still continue to enjoy momentum in developing countries; they together we believe deliver substantial profit."

I don't see how that equates to "their gaming division is losing money again."

I don't think the CEO would say "they together [our consoles] we believe deliver [Sony] substantial profit," if Sony wasn't actually making profit on their gaming division right now.

Sony lost money...that doesn't mean their games business is doing equally as poorly.

Feel free to post the SCE total profits from last quarter.

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

[QUOTE="groverslanding"]You seem to fail to grasp the concept that just because Sony made a couple hundred million between 2009-2010, that in no way accounts for 5 billion losses in suffered between 2007-2009. Now their gaming division is losing money again.

In total it looks like they'll be out 7 to 8 billion in their gaming division since 2007 with the way the Vita is performing.

groverslanding

In the recent comapny-wide meeting, the CEO stated that the gaming division will bring them "incredible profit."

"In game business we will target steady profits in the core game business and we also worked to spend in and expend the network services business, the two majors that we've sided already will be implemented steadily. The PlayStation business is a platform model based upon strong and competitive hardware. PlayStation 3 is in its sixth year and is now generating steady profit. We expect PlayStation 3, the newly introduced PlayStation Vita which we reported to the market last year and PSP which still continue to enjoy momentum in developing countries; they together we believe deliver substantial profit."

I don't see how that equates to "their gaming division is losing money again."

PSP is on the way out, Vita is a complete failure, and PS3 has about 6 months until next gen starts and they dont have the money to compete in the next console race.

These are Sonys last moments. Enjoy.

The gamign divison has been making money since 2009 you have no clue what you are talking about.

[QUOTE="groverslanding"]

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

In the recent comapny-wide meeting, the CEO stated that the gaming division will bring them "incredible profit."

"In game business we will target steady profits in the core game business and we also worked to spend in and expend the network services business, the two majors that we've sided already will be implemented steadily. The PlayStation business is a platform model based upon strong and competitive hardware. PlayStation 3 is in its sixth year and is now generating steady profit. We expect PlayStation 3, the newly introduced PlayStation Vita which we reported to the market last year and PSP which still continue to enjoy momentum in developing countries; they together we believe deliver substantial profit."

I don't see how that equates to "their gaming division is losing money again."

AM-Gamer

PSP is on the way out, Vita is a complete failure, and PS3 has about 6 months until next gen starts and they dont have the money to compete in the next console race.

These are Sonys last moments. Enjoy.

The gamign divison has been making money since 2009 you have no clue what you are talking about.

peterw007

What does an optimisitic statement about the future have to do with anything? Do you realize the reason for that conference? Sony is in such a bad spot right now that they have to axe their television division along with many others to completely restructure their sinking ship. They are on deaths door.

They lost 6.4 billion in total last year and pretty much no longer make it possible to tell how badly their gaming division is doing because things have gotten so bad. Very little info is released. But they have lost thier shirts this gen and 2011 was one of their worst years yet with the financial crisis they face and the horrible flop of the Vita.

[QUOTE="groverslanding"]

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

In the recent comapny-wide meeting, the CEO stated that the gaming division will bring them "incredible profit."

"In game business we will target steady profits in the core game business and we also worked to spend in and expend the network services business, the two majors that we've sided already will be implemented steadily. The PlayStation business is a platform model based upon strong and competitive hardware. PlayStation 3 is in its sixth year and is now generating steady profit. We expect PlayStation 3, the newly introduced PlayStation Vita which we reported to the market last year and PSP which still continue to enjoy momentum in developing countries; they together we believe deliver substantial profit."

I don't see how that equates to "their gaming division is losing money again."

AM-Gamer

PSP is on the way out, Vita is a complete failure, and PS3 has about 6 months until next gen starts and they dont have the money to compete in the next console race.

These are Sonys last moments. Enjoy.

The gamign divison has been making money since 2009 you have no clue what you are talking about.

2007-2009 = Loses 5 billion

2009 - 2010 = makes a few hundred million (overall the division is down just under 5 billion after 2010 for the generation).

2011, 2012 = Sony loses 6.4 billion in total (whole company) in 2011, the Vita gets off to a terrible start, Sony stops releasing info specifically about gaming division so we can't tell how badly its done. One with a brain would presume terribly.

Vita reaching Dreamcast level sales. Uh-oh.

Vita

Bye Sony.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

It's no surprise to me that Sony is losing money, they're taking one for the team.

In an age where casual games dominate and children / soccer moms are the dominant consumers in sheer numbers, Sony looks in the other direction.

If I had a genie and could make a wish on how I wanted a major game company to perform, Sony would be the result. I'm an adult gamer that likes traditional "core" games, and that's Sony's focus, and that's where they excel.

It literally almost seems like Sony doesn't care about money, because all they want to do is please me. I'm in the minority, I'm an adult gamer that prefers traditional "core" games. I am far outnumbered by soccer moms and children, and they prefer casual games, and motion controlled casual games are what sell, because the target audience is the largest.

Sony is like a dream come true for me, because for whatever reason, they don't care about making money and just choose to please me as a gamer and continue making the games I want and the types of games that I like to play. I swear, I never had a genie and never made a wish for this to happen, but it is what it is, and Sony is the way that they are, and I love it!

Vraeth

The only reason Sony hasn't whored out to the casuals is because the Move was a complete failure.

Don't pretend like they didn't try.

I honestly don't care what the reason behind it is. The way the cards fell left Sony with the focus of making the kinds of games I like, and forgetting about pleasing the children and the soccer moms. It is what it is, and Sony is better because of it.

I don't want any company to fail, but if you give me the option of having a company struggle while delivering the exact kinds of games that I like buying and playing, or having a company see massive success while delivering games I don't anticipate or enjoy because they're aimed at children and soccer moms, I'm going to choose the first option.

I'm not like many of the fanboys here. Many of the fanboys here don't care about games at all, all they care about is the success of their company of choice, even if it comes at their expense. I'm the exact opposite, because I don't even have a favorite company going into any generation, I don't have predetermined favorites. I follow the games, and I let the games, along with company focus, dictate who is and isn't my favorite. Business and revenue doesn't matter at all to me, because I'm not a stockholder for any of these companies.

[QUOTE="Vraeth"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

It's no surprise to me that Sony is losing money, they're taking one for the team.

In an age where casual games dominate and children / soccer moms are the dominant consumers in sheer numbers, Sony looks in the other direction.

If I had a genie and could make a wish on how I wanted a major game company to perform, Sony would be the result. I'm an adult gamer that likes traditional "core" games, and that's Sony's focus, and that's where they excel.

It literally almost seems like Sony doesn't care about money, because all they want to do is please me. I'm in the minority, I'm an adult gamer that prefers traditional "core" games. I am far outnumbered by soccer moms and children, and they prefer casual games, and motion controlled casual games are what sell, because the target audience is the largest.

Sony is like a dream come true for me, because for whatever reason, they don't care about making money and just choose to please me as a gamer and continue making the games I want and the types of games that I like to play. I swear, I never had a genie and never made a wish for this to happen, but it is what it is, and Sony is the way that they are, and I love it!

arkephonic

The only reason Sony hasn't whored out to the casuals is because the Move was a complete failure.

Don't pretend like they didn't try.

I honestly don't care what the reason behind it is. The way the cards fell left Sony with the focus of making the kinds of games I like, and forgetting about pleasing the children and the soccer moms. It is what it is, and Sony is better because of it.

I don't want any company to fail, but if you give me the option of having a company struggle while delivering the exact kinds of games that I like buying and playing, or having a company see massive success while delivering games I don't anticipate or enjoy because they're aimed at children and soccer moms, I'm going to choose the first option.

I'm not like many of the fanboys here. Many of the fanboys here don't care about games at all, all they care about is the success of their company of choice, even if it comes at their expense. I'm the exact opposite, because I don't even have a favorite company going into any generation, I don't have predetermined favorites. I follow the games, and I let the games, along with company focus, dictate who is and isn't my favorite. Business and revenue doesn't matter at all to me, because I'm not a stockholder for any of these companies.

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, blah blah blah, At the end of the day these two consoles have 85% identical library and the 360 still outsells and makes more money then Sony. You can have games and make money if you have a good business model. Stop making excuses for the loser

Didn't read.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Vraeth"]

The only reason Sony hasn't whored out to the casuals is because the Move was a complete failure.

Don't pretend like they didn't try.

kbanna

I honestly don't care what the reason behind it is. The way the cards fell left Sony with the focus of making the kinds of games I like, and forgetting about pleasing the children and the soccer moms. It is what it is, and Sony is better because of it.

I don't want any company to fail, but if you give me the option of having a company struggle while delivering the exact kinds of games that I like buying and playing, or having a company see massive success while delivering games I don't anticipate or enjoy because they're aimed at children and soccer moms, I'm going to choose the first option.

I'm not like many of the fanboys here. Many of the fanboys here don't care about games at all, all they care about is the success of their company of choice, even if it comes at their expense. I'm the exact opposite, because I don't even have a favorite company going into any generation, I don't have predetermined favorites. I follow the games, and I let the games, along with company focus, dictate who is and isn't my favorite. Business and revenue doesn't matter at all to me, because I'm not a stockholder for any of these companies.

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, blah blah blah, At the end of the day these two consoles have 85% identical library and the 360 still outsells and makes more money then Sony. You can have games and make money if you have a good business model. Stop making excuses for the loser

Well I guess if you're a child or a soccer mom, the Xbox 360 would be the perfect console.

Didn't read.

tjricardo089

[QUOTE="kbanna"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I honestly don't care what the reason behind it is. The way the cards fell left Sony with the focus of making the kinds of games I like, and forgetting about pleasing the children and the soccer moms. It is what it is, and Sony is better because of it.

I don't want any company to fail, but if you give me the option of having a company struggle while delivering the exact kinds of games that I like buying and playing, or having a company see massive success while delivering games I don't anticipate or enjoy because they're aimed at children and soccer moms, I'm going to choose the first option.

I'm not like many of the fanboys here. Many of the fanboys here don't care about games at all, all they care about is the success of their company of choice, even if it comes at their expense. I'm the exact opposite, because I don't even have a favorite company going into any generation, I don't have predetermined favorites. I follow the games, and I let the games, along with company focus, dictate who is and isn't my favorite. Business and revenue doesn't matter at all to me, because I'm not a stockholder for any of these companies.

arkephonic

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, blah blah blah, At the end of the day these two consoles have 85% identical library and the 360 still outsells and makes more money then Sony. You can have games and make money if you have a good business model. Stop making excuses for the loser

Well I guess if you're a child or a soccer mom, the Xbox 360 would be the perfect console.

Look...Sore loosers always come up with all types of excuses as to why they lost. Winners go home and F7#k the prom queen. I have never seen a bunch of winey crybabies who cant take loosing like PS3 Fans. Now all the xbox just has a bunch of games for kids and soccer moms, huh?? RROD rebuys, Stupid uniformed costomers, Its a cheaper console...all excuses for the simple fact that the 360 is a better console this time around. Im 30 plus years old and an avid gamer and love the 360's game library. Just get the @#$% over it already...its been 7 years now. PS2 won last gen, did xbox owners have this many excuses????

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]Yeah source? Other than random Neogaf poster?phonemug

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="kbanna"]

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, blah blah blah, At the end of the day these two consoles have 85% identical library and the 360 still outsells and makes more money then Sony. You can have games and make money if you have a good business model. Stop making excuses for the loser

kbanna

Well I guess if you're a child or a soccer mom, the Xbox 360 would be the perfect console.

Look...Sore loosers always come up with all types of excuses as to why they lost. Winners go home and F7#k the prom queen. I have never seen a bunch of winey crybabies who cant take loosing like PS3 Fans. Now all the xbox just has a bunch of games for kids and soccer moms, huh?? RROD rebuys, Stupid uniformed costomers, Its a cheaper console...all excuses for the simple fact that the 360 is a better console this time around. Im 30 plus years old and an avid gamer and love the 360's game library. Just get the @#$% over it already...its been 7 years now. PS2 won last gen, did xbox owners have this many excuses????

I'm the real winner at the end of the day because I have all the platforms. I can play anything and everything if I feel like it.

What did the Xbox 360 win exactly? Isn't it like 50 million consoles behind the Wii?

[QUOTE="kbanna"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Well I guess if you're a child or a soccer mom, the Xbox 360 would be the perfect console.

arkephonic

Look...Sore loosers always come up with all types of excuses as to why they lost. Winners go home and F7#k the prom queen. I have never seen a bunch of winey crybabies who cant take loosing like PS3 Fans. Now all the xbox just has a bunch of games for kids and soccer moms, huh?? RROD rebuys, Stupid uniformed costomers, Its a cheaper console...all excuses for the simple fact that the 360 is a better console this time around. Im 30 plus years old and an avid gamer and love the 360's game library. Just get the @#$% over it already...its been 7 years now. PS2 won last gen, did xbox owners have this many excuses????

I'm the real winner at the end of the day because I have all the platforms. I can play anything and everything if I feel like it.

What did the Xbox 360 win exactly? Isn't it like 50 million consoles behind the Wii?

This is truly an incredible statistic. Not sure how anyone can call it a "success" for Sony

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36861280&postcount=448

Neogaf admin Opiate (notice his name is red. He also works in the industry):

"Sony has lost ~5 billion dollars on the PS3. It is the worst financial disaster in gaming history, losing more money for its parent company than either the Dreamcast or original Xbox."

phonemug

...all that and the xbox still doesn't have any games...:lol:

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="kbanna"]

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, blah blah blah, At the end of the day these two consoles have 85% identical library and the 360 still outsells and makes more money then Sony. You can have games and make money if you have a good business model. Stop making excuses for the loser

kbanna

Well I guess if you're a child or a soccer mom, the Xbox 360 would be the perfect console.

Look...Sore loosers always come up with all types of excuses as to why they lost. Winners go home and F7#k the prom queen. I have never seen a bunch of winey crybabies who cant take loosing like PS3 Fans. Now all the xbox just has a bunch of games for kids and soccer moms, huh?? RROD rebuys, Stupid uniformed costomers, Its a cheaper console...all excuses for the simple fact that the 360 is a better console this time around. Im 30 plus years old and an avid gamer and love the 360's game library. Just get the @#$% over it already...its been 7 years now. PS2 won last gen, did xbox owners have this many excuses????

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="kbanna"]

Look...Sore loosers always come up with all types of excuses as to why they lost. Winners go home and F7#k the prom queen. I have never seen a bunch of winey crybabies who cant take loosing like PS3 Fans. Now all the xbox just has a bunch of games for kids and soccer moms, huh?? RROD rebuys, Stupid uniformed costomers, Its a cheaper console...all excuses for the simple fact that the 360 is a better console this time around. Im 30 plus years old and an avid gamer and love the 360's game library. Just get the @#$% over it already...its been 7 years now. PS2 won last gen, did xbox owners have this many excuses????

spiderluck

I'm the real winner at the end of the day because I have all the platforms. I can play anything and everything if I feel like it.

What did the Xbox 360 win exactly? Isn't it like 50 million consoles behind the Wii?

The 360 has 65 million units sold and the PS3 has 63 million units sold. The PS3 is in dead last, but if you read my earlier posts, I'm in the minority. Sony makes the kinds of games I like as their focus. They didn't chase the pot of gold by catering to the children and the soccer moms. I'm surprised Sony PS3 could be behind by only 2 million units considering they launched 1 whole year later, and they have a traditional "core" focus that doesn't sell nearly as well as motion controlled casual games targeted for children and soccer moms.

What that smell? Oooooo... system wars is eating steak tonight.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="kbanna"]

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, blah blah blah, At the end of the day these two consoles have 85% identical library and the 360 still outsells and makes more money then Sony. You can have games and make money if you have a good business model. Stop making excuses for the loser

kbanna

Well I guess if you're a child or a soccer mom, the Xbox 360 would be the perfect console.

Look...Sore loosers always come up with all types of excuses as to why they lost. Winners go home and F7#k the prom queen. I have never seen a bunch of winey crybabies who cant take loosing like PS3 Fans. Now all the xbox just has a bunch of games for kids and soccer moms, huh?? RROD rebuys, Stupid uniformed costomers, Its a cheaper console...all excuses for the simple fact that the 360 is a better console this time around. Im 30 plus years old and an avid gamer and love the 360's game library. Just get the @#$% over it already...its been 7 years now. PS2 won last gen, did xbox owners have this many excuses????

[QUOTE="phonemug"]

This is truly an incredible statistic. Not sure how anyone can call it a "success" for Sony

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36861280&postcount=448

Neogaf admin Opiate (notice his name is red. He also works in the industry):

"Sony has lost ~5 billion dollars on the PS3. It is the worst financial disaster in gaming history, losing more money for its parent company than either the Dreamcast or original Xbox."

Adamantium4k2

...all that and the xbox still doesn't have any games...:lol:

already 50 threads on this. The board has a search function for a reasoncampzor

Haha. Well someone's very clearly upset by this.

[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I'm the real winner at the end of the day because I have all the platforms. I can play anything and everything if I feel like it.

What did the Xbox 360 win exactly? Isn't it like 50 million consoles behind the Wii?

arkephonic

The 360 has 65 million units sold and the PS3 has 63 million units sold. The PS3 is in dead last, but if you read my earlier posts, I'm in the minority. Sony makes the kinds of games I like as their focus. They didn't chase the pot of gold by catering to the children and the soccer moms. I'm surprised Sony PS3 could be behind by only 2 million units considering they launched 1 whole year later, and they have a traditional "core" focus that doesn't sell nearly as well as motion controlled casual games targeted for children and soccer moms.

[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I'm the real winner at the end of the day because I have all the platforms. I can play anything and everything if I feel like it.

What did the Xbox 360 win exactly? Isn't it like 50 million consoles behind the Wii?

arkephonic

The 360 has 65 million units sold and the PS3 has 63 million units sold. The PS3 is in dead last, but if you read my earlier posts, I'm in the minority. Sony makes the kinds of games I like as their focus. They didn't chase the pot of gold by catering to the children and the soccer moms. I'm surprised Sony PS3 could be behind by only 2 million units considering they launched 1 whole year later, and they have a traditional "core" focus that doesn't sell nearly as well as motion controlled casual games targeted for children and soccer moms.

[QUOTE="kbanna"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Well I guess if you're a child or a soccer mom, the Xbox 360 would be the perfect console.

arkephonic

Look...Sore loosers always come up with all types of excuses as to why they lost. Winners go home and F7#k the prom queen. I have never seen a bunch of winey crybabies who cant take loosing like PS3 Fans. Now all the xbox just has a bunch of games for kids and soccer moms, huh?? RROD rebuys, Stupid uniformed costomers, Its a cheaper console...all excuses for the simple fact that the 360 is a better console this time around. Im 30 plus years old and an avid gamer and love the 360's game library. Just get the @#$% over it already...its been 7 years now. PS2 won last gen, did xbox owners have this many excuses????

I'm the real winner at the end of the day because I have all the platforms. I can play anything and everything if I feel like it.

What did the Xbox 360 win exactly? Isn't it like 50 million consoles behind the Wii?

It beat Sony...thats what it won.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="kbanna"]

Look...Sore loosers always come up with all types of excuses as to why they lost. Winners go home and F7#k the prom queen. I have never seen a bunch of winey crybabies who cant take loosing like PS3 Fans. Now all the xbox just has a bunch of games for kids and soccer moms, huh?? RROD rebuys, Stupid uniformed costomers, Its a cheaper console...all excuses for the simple fact that the 360 is a better console this time around. Im 30 plus years old and an avid gamer and love the 360's game library. Just get the @#$% over it already...its been 7 years now. PS2 won last gen, did xbox owners have this many excuses????

kbanna

I'm the real winner at the end of the day because I have all the platforms. I can play anything and everything if I feel like it.

What did the Xbox 360 win exactly? Isn't it like 50 million consoles behind the Wii?

It beat Sony...thats what it won.

Yeah,Ps3 has it rough.

At least it has good games,though.

[QUOTE="kbanna"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I'm the real winner at the end of the day because I have all the platforms. I can play anything and everything if I feel like it.

What did the Xbox 360 win exactly? Isn't it like 50 million consoles behind the Wii?

delta3074

It beat Sony...thats what it won.

[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I'm the real winner at the end of the day because I have all the platforms. I can play anything and everything if I feel like it.

What did the Xbox 360 win exactly? Isn't it like 50 million consoles behind the Wii?

arkephonic

The 360 has 65 million units sold and the PS3 has 63 million units sold. The PS3 is in dead last, but if you read my earlier posts, I'm in the minority. Sony makes the kinds of games I like as their focus. They didn't chase the pot of gold by catering to the children and the soccer moms. I'm surprised Sony PS3 could be behind by only 2 million units considering they launched 1 whole year later, and they have a traditional "core" focus that doesn't sell nearly as well as motion controlled casual games targeted for children and soccer moms.

Listen, stop this "children and Soccer mom" nonsesne already. Its getting old and you know as well as I do its not true. Every single month (Including later tonight) the 360 outsells the PS3 in hardware and trounces it in software. When that NPD list comes out, and there are more 360 games in the top ten, and more units of mutiplats sold, you come back here and tell me how many of those games are "Kinect" games. I have a hint for you...it will be none. Kinect games very rarely if ever make it in the top ten or 20 of NPD. Its all hardcore games that are selling better on the 360. Stop lying to yourself to feel better

[QUOTE="kbanna"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I'm the real winner at the end of the day because I have all the platforms. I can play anything and everything if I feel like it.

What did the Xbox 360 win exactly? Isn't it like 50 million consoles behind the Wii?

delta3074

It beat Sony...thats what it won.

What game would that be? I find it hard to believe that it sold more than Mario Kart Wii or Wii Fit...

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="spiderluck"] Where does that leave the ps3??kbanna

The 360 has 65 million units sold and the PS3 has 63 million units sold. The PS3 is in dead last, but if you read my earlier posts, I'm in the minority. Sony makes the kinds of games I like as their focus. They didn't chase the pot of gold by catering to the children and the soccer moms. I'm surprised Sony PS3 could be behind by only 2 million units considering they launched 1 whole year later, and they have a traditional "core" focus that doesn't sell nearly as well as motion controlled casual games targeted for children and soccer moms.

Listen, stop this "children and Soccer mom" nonsesne already. Its getting old and you know as well as I do its not true. Every single month (Including later tonight) the 360 outsells the PS3 in hardware and trounces it in software. When that NPD list comes out, and there are more 360 games in the top ten, and more units of mutiplats sold, you come back here and tell me how many of those games are "Kinect" games. I have a hint for you...it will be none. Kinect games very rarely if ever make it in the top ten or 20 of NPD. Its all hardcore games that are selling better on the 360. Stop lying to yourself to feel better

Xbox 360 has a focus to please children and soccer moms, that is their priority.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="kbanna"]It beat Sony...thats what it won.darkhadou

Where does that leave the ps3??spiderluck

About 2 or 3 million behind the Xbox 360.

[QUOTE="darkhadou"][QUOTE="delta3074"]and it has the highest selling exclusive game This generation.delta3074

Misleading, the playststion doesn't have it's own division,it's in the same division as there televisions and mobile phones.delta3074

Take that $5 billion and you could pay 71,000 people a salary of $70,000 in a single year.bonesawisready5

So firing 10,000 people wasn't enough? I know I like to joke about Sony dying but I'm starting to get scared it might actually happen.

is this legit because it doesn't like it. It just sounds like someone throwing a number out because it doesn't really seem possible if you look at sony's numbers per year.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="spiderluck"] Where does that leave the ps3??spiderluck

The 360 has 65 million units sold and the PS3 has 63 million units sold. The PS3 is in dead last, but if you read my earlier posts, I'm in the minority. Sony makes the kinds of games I like as their focus. They didn't chase the pot of gold by catering to the children and the soccer moms. I'm surprised Sony PS3 could be behind by only 2 million units considering they launched 1 whole year later, and they have a traditional "core" focus that doesn't sell nearly as well as motion controlled casual games targeted for children and soccer moms.

[QUOTE="kbanna"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

The 360 has 65 million units sold and the PS3 has 63 million units sold. The PS3 is in dead last, but if you read my earlier posts, I'm in the minority. Sony makes the kinds of games I like as their focus. They didn't chase the pot of gold by catering to the children and the soccer moms. I'm surprised Sony PS3 could be behind by only 2 million units considering they launched 1 whole year later, and they have a traditional "core" focus that doesn't sell nearly as well as motion controlled casual games targeted for children and soccer moms.

arkephonic

Listen, stop this "children and Soccer mom" nonsesne already. Its getting old and you know as well as I do its not true. Every single month (Including later tonight) the 360 outsells the PS3 in hardware and trounces it in software. When that NPD list comes out, and there are more 360 games in the top ten, and more units of mutiplats sold, you come back here and tell me how many of those games are "Kinect" games. I have a hint for you...it will be none. Kinect games very rarely if ever make it in the top ten or 20 of NPD. Its all hardcore games that are selling better on the 360. Stop lying to yourself to feel better

Xbox 360 has a focus to please children and soccer moms, that is their priority.

Funny how you argue about them focusing on children, when your argument has now started to mirrior that of a child. Figers in yours ears ignoring facts laid out before you. Have fun with your last place console and its mediocre exclusives. Hope they can adapt the same business model next time now that the PS3 put them 5 billion in the hole.

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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

The 360 has 65 million units sold and the PS3 has 63 million units sold. The PS3 is in dead last, but if you read my earlier posts, I'm in the minority. Sony makes the kinds of games I like as their focus. They didn't chase the pot of gold by catering to the children and the soccer moms. I'm surprised Sony PS3 could be behind by only 2 million units considering they launched 1 whole year later, and they have a traditional "core" focus that doesn't sell nearly as well as motion controlled casual games targeted for children and soccer moms.

arkephonic

Listen, stop this "children and Soccer mom" nonsesne already. Its getting old and you know as well as I do its not true. Every single month (Including later tonight) the 360 outsells the PS3 in hardware and trounces it in software. When that NPD list comes out, and there are more 360 games in the top ten, and more units of mutiplats sold, you come back here and tell me how many of those games are "Kinect" games. I have a hint for you...it will be none. Kinect games very rarely if ever make it in the top ten or 20 of NPD. Its all hardcore games that are selling better on the 360. Stop lying to yourself to feel better

Xbox 360 has a focus to please children and soccer moms, that is their priority.

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another pointless thread eh TC. The PS3 turned a profit since the end of 2009 while the Dreamcast and Xbox didn't even make a dime for Sega or MS and that's what makes the PS3 to not be a failure like them.

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/30/ps3-has-lost-sony-4-7-billion-may-be-profitable-next-year/

And rumors say that GOW4 will get an official announcement in the 19 of this month.:cool:

groverslanding

Oh wait it means you still lost 5 billion.

[QUOTE="delta3074"]Misleading, the playststion doesn't have it's own division,it's in the same division as there televisions and mobile phones.blue_hazy_basic

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The 360 has 65 million units sold and the PS3 has 63 million units sold. The PS3 is in dead last, but if you read my earlier posts, I'm in the minority. Sony makes the kinds of games I like as their focus. They didn't chase the pot of gold by catering to the children and the soccer moms. I'm surprised Sony PS3 could be behind by only 2 million units considering they launched 1 whole year later, and they have a traditional "core" focus that doesn't sell nearly as well as motion controlled casual games targeted for children and soccer moms.

lamprey263

Six Axis was revolutionary and made rumble last gen.:roll:

Sony is always chasing the casuals, but they fail most of the time when the specifically target them.