Sony lost. In more ways than one.

Nintendo's E3 was disappointing for hardcore Nintendo fans who wanted to see the new Zelda announcement in motion but lets focus on the real issue here.

SONY lost FINAL FANTASY XIII's Exclusivity

!

you can't be serious.

In my not at all humble opinion this makes this E3 the WORST E3 this generation for Sony Computer Entertainment of Europe and America. Even that laughable Ridge Racer gif fails to topple this horrendous news. So the joke here is that they lost FFXIII and they lost E3. Too bad for them but sure Cows will get over it they always do.

Besides at least Wii owners got to see that sweet gameplay trailer for Mad World.

edit: This is System Wars. Playstation 3 lost a major exclusive. Denial in playing it down will not work for you in the long run. heehee.

Too bad for them but sure Cows will get over it they always do.

Tony-Harrison

[QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]

Too bad for them but sure Cows will get over it they always do.

gamefreakomega

See, they've gotten over it already! ;)

umm...no just no.

FFXIII was a pretty big deal...sucks for Sony

Nintendo's conference was way worse then losing FFXIII though.

[QUOTE="gamefreakomega"][QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]

Too bad for them but sure Cows will get over it they always do.

Tony-Harrison

See they've gotten over it already! ;)

Clever.:|

umm...no just no.

FFXIII was a pretty big deal...sucks for Sony

Nintendo's conference was way worse then losing FFXIII though.

Adonymous

At least Nintendo didn't lose Zelda. :lol:

[QUOTE="Adonymous"]

umm...no just no.

FFXIII was a pretty big deal...sucks for Sony

Nintendo's conference was way worse then losing FFXIII though.

Tony-Harrison

At least Nintendo didn't lose Zelda. :lol:

your fanboy is showing :lol:

Nintendo OWNS Zelda

Sony doesn't OWN Final Fantasy.

No, sorry. having watched every conference, Nintendo's was so bad, I almost cried.

Ninty kicked every hardcore gamer square in the nuts. FFXIII does not trump that.

[QUOTE="gamefreakomega"][QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]

Too bad for them but sure Cows will get over it they always do.

Tony-Harrison

See, they've gotten over it already! ;)

seriously.... this is sony problem and they knew what was happening. you act as if cows just lost a leg

seriously.... this is sony problem and they knew what was happening. you act as if cows just lost a leg

sireclaborn

You mean another leg.

What about gamers who have no interest in FFXIII?ragek1ll589

Buy it anyway? It'll be like seeing a movie you know you're going to hate just so you have something to say about it when it comes up in conversation, only the movie cost $60.

[QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"][QUOTE="Adonymous"]

umm...no just no.

FFXIII was a pretty big deal...sucks for Sony

Nintendo's conference was way worse then losing FFXIII though.

Adonymous

At least Nintendo didn't lose Zelda. :lol:

your fanboy is showing :lol:

Nintendo OWNS Zelda

Sony doesn't OWN Final Fantasy.

Sony didn't lose anything. I'm pretty sure the hardcore sony gamers aren't going to go out and buy an 360 just to play final fantasy. This just means more money for the Final Fantasy franchise creature_09

What about the hardcore RPG gamers who aren't all Sony fanboys?

[QUOTE="Adonymous"]Sony doesn't OWN Final Fantasy. Tony-Harrison

Final Fantasy are what made the last two Playstation consoles for many many gamers. Sony losing a major exclusive is going to hurt.

And before FFVII, Nintendo had FINAL FANTASY, and they lost it COMPLETLEY (not multi-plat) but completley, what's your point?

SE made a smart business choice, the MS moneyhat helped big time, and this way they'll expand the fanbase. If I were in SE's position I would have done the same thing, unless Sony threw some $ my wa.y.

[QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]

[QUOTE="Adonymous"]Sony doesn't OWN Final Fantasy. Adonymous

Final Fantasy are what made the last two Playstation consoles for many many gamers. Sony losing a major exclusive is going to hurt.

And before FFVII, Nintendo had FINAL FANTASY, and they lost it COMPLETLEY (not multi-plat) but completley, what's your point?

IIRC Nintendo loosing Final Fantasy 7 to Playstation instead of it being on N64 was pretty bad news for them.

[QUOTE="creature_09"]Sony didn't lose anything. I'm pretty sure the hardcore sony gamers aren't going to go out and buy an 360 just to play final fantasy. This just means more money for the Final Fantasy franchise Tony-Harrison

What about the hardcore RPG gamers who aren't all Sony fanboys?

You mean half of which have never played it because they refuse to own a sony?

[QUOTE="creature_09"]Sony didn't lose anything. I'm pretty sure the hardcore sony gamers aren't going to go out and buy an 360 just to play final fantasy. This just means more money for the Final Fantasy franchise Tony-Harrison

What about the hardcore RPG gamers who aren't all Sony fanboys?

They can now play FFXIII on two systems.. I'm not following you.

[QUOTE="Adonymous"][QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]

[QUOTE="Adonymous"]Sony doesn't OWN Final Fantasy. Tony-Harrison

Final Fantasy are what made the last two Playstation consoles for many many gamers. Sony losing a major exclusive is going to hurt.

And before FFVII, Nintendo had FINAL FANTASY, and they lost it COMPLETLEY (not multi-plat) but completley, what's your point?

IIRC Nintendo loosing Final Fantasy 7 to Playstation instead of it being on N64 was pretty bad news for them.

Yeah it was and I'm sure Cows laughed.

[QUOTE="creature_09"]Sony didn't lose anything. I'm pretty sure the hardcore sony gamers aren't going to go out and buy an 360 just to play final fantasy. This just means more money for the Final Fantasy franchise Tony-Harrison

What about the hardcore RPG gamers who aren't all Sony fanboys?

[QUOTE="Adonymous"][QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]

[QUOTE="Adonymous"]Sony doesn't OWN Final Fantasy. Tony-Harrison

Final Fantasy are what made the last two Playstation consoles for many many gamers. Sony losing a major exclusive is going to hurt.

And before FFVII, Nintendo had FINAL FANTASY, and they lost it COMPLETLEY (not multi-plat) but completley, what's your point?

IIRC Nintendo loosing Final Fantasy 7 to Playstation instead of it being on N64 was pretty bad news for them.

Yea, Nintendo got owned hard.

FF has jumped ship before, but this time its just going on multiple platforms, instead of jumping completley

[QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]

[QUOTE="creature_09"]Sony didn't lose anything. I'm pretty sure the hardcore sony gamers aren't going to go out and buy an 360 just to play final fantasy. This just means more money for the Final Fantasy franchise SpruceCaboose

What about the hardcore RPG gamers who aren't all Sony fanboys?

They can now play FFXIII on two systems.. I'm not following you.

You no longer need to buy a Playstation 3 to play Final Fantasy XIII.

Exclusivity is a big deal on this forum.

Last night I expressed my disappointment on how Sony had let their gamers/customers down by letting this happen, people who have based their decision on whether or not to get a PS3/360. In the end, though everyone wins, it is a rather bitter pill to swallow, because Sony really didn't do anything to counter that.

What Sony showed off was common knowledge. Nothing surprising came out, and I know people will point to MAG but, that just isn't enough. Also it to me shows off a rather disturbing trend, the over emphasis on online. Don't get me wrong, I love online, but the fact of the matter is that, you need a good single player experience.

In the end, I believe Sony knew this was going to happen, and perhaps the same situation with Metal Gear Solid 4 was rearing it's head, only being able to afford one, they chose the one that they felt best represented their brand, and their gaming ideals.

With Sony losing so many games to 360 you would of thought they would threw some money SE way to keep a big exclusive like that.

[QUOTE="gamefreakomega"][QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]

Too bad for them but sure Cows will get over it they always do.

Tony-Harrison

See, they've gotten over it already! ;)

Last night I expressed my disappointment on how Sony had let their gamers/customers down by letting this happen, people who have based their decision on whether or not to get a PS3/360. In the end, though everyone wins, it is a rather bitter pill to swallow, because Sony really didn't do anything to counter that.

What Sony showed off was common knowledge. Nothing surprising came out, and I know people will point to MAG but, that just isn't enough. Also it to me shows off a rather disturbing trend, the over emphasis on online. Don't get me wrong, I love online, but the fact of the matter is that, you need a good single player experience.

In the end, I believe Sony knew this was going to happen, and perhaps the same situation with Metal Gear Solid 4 was rearing it's head, only being able to afford one, they chose the one that they felt best represented their brand, and their gaming ideals.

elbow2k

I agree with this. I was looking for a reason to get a PS3...god of war III is the reason as of now. I was peeved that they just showed less than a 5 min. cg of the game. IDK....then with the MAG news...they just showed CG and then threw a number out there....200 plus people online. Oooookay. anyway. I agree with your post.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]

[QUOTE="creature_09"]Sony didn't lose anything. I'm pretty sure the hardcore sony gamers aren't going to go out and buy an 360 just to play final fantasy. This just means more money for the Final Fantasy franchise Tony-Harrison

What about the hardcore RPG gamers who aren't all Sony fanboys?

They can now play FFXIII on two systems.. I'm not following you.

You no longer need to buy a Playstation 3 to play Final Fantasy XIII.

Exclusivity is a big deal on this forum.

Your point being? I don't need an Xbox360 to play Gears, ME, Bioshock, etc. That has not stopped me from getting a Xbox360.

[QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"][QUOTE="gamefreakomega"][QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]

Too bad for them but sure Cows will get over it they always do.

darth-pyschosis

See, they've gotten over it already! ;)

I agree that games should be for fun. But you have to keep in mind the price man. We can't all afford every system and some games are exclusive to the systems which i'm shure you well know. The only thing sony needs to be worried about is a landslide effect. If this is the only game they lose for the next 'x' amount of years. they are in good shape.

[QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"][QUOTE="gamefreakomega"][QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]

Too bad for them but sure Cows will get over it they always do.

darth-pyschosis

See, they've gotten over it already! ;)

What am I supposed to be doing this late?

Zelda being announced is a lot better than Sony losing FFXIII exclusivity. People should stop saying Nintendo lost.

Zelda is the only thing nintendo has going for them. I've got a friend who still plays the n64 zelda games because they are so involved to COMPLETELY beat them. But if nintendo doesn't step it back up, I fear even zelda will go by the waste side.creature_09

Zelda was announced. I disagree it's all they have. They also showed Mad World.

It's true, Sony lost an exclusive deal.

But it was to be expected. In the end cycle of the ps2 they already said they weren't interested in securing third party exclusives.

I guess they had an intensive marketing study that told them that in the end they aren't profitable and from the looks of gta4 they were right. Don't forget Sony isn't some rertarded backwater company, everything they do and let happen is carefully considered and risk assesment is done.

I still think Sony had the best key-note from a gamers perspective. They showed the most games (but not many I'm really interested in), and brought the boring stuf in an innovative way...

What about gamers who have no interest in FFXIII?ragek1ll589

SE said the 360 version will ship same day as ps3 version even if that means they have to push the ps3 date backhatecalledlove

And that is the only way this whole thing has negatively affected me.

Do I care enough to learn Japanese so I can just import it? Probably not.

I think Sony's E3 conference was the best. At least they did this E3 about the Software rather than hardware. Not to shabby software at that, the showing of MAG and that level design on LBP was pretty cool(and it got more laughs than the entire Nint. conference) MS's conference was just the announcement of FFXIII on 360 which i mean is big but i mean thats not going to carry you to victory. Nintendo conference was just plain lame. I get it your trying to appeal to your casuals but it was painful watching you trying to be comical about it.

FFXIII is a timed exclusive by atleast a year, and FFXIII versus is still exclusive. FFXIII Versus will probably be on time with FFXIII for the 360. That sounds like a win for everyoneCouth_

I think Sony's E3 conference was the best. At least they did this E3 about the Software rather than hardware. Not to shabby software at that, the showing of MAG and that level design on LBP was pretty cool(and it got more laughs than the entire Nint. conference) MS's conference was just the announcement of FFXIII on 360 which i mean is big but i mean thats not going to carry you to victory. Nintendo conference was just plain lame. I get it your trying to appeal to your casuals but it was painful watching you trying to be comical about it.

[QUOTE="Couth_"]FFXIII is a timed exclusive by atleast a year, and FFXIII versus is still exclusive. FFXIII Versus will probably be on time with FFXIII for the 360. That sounds like a win for everyoneFF6fan

Did we watch the same program???? lol..Sony almost completely focused on hardware! They talked about the PS2 more than the PS3. Sounded like a cry for attention to me.

[QUOTE="FF6fan"]

I think Sony's E3 conference was the best. At least they did this E3 about the Software rather than hardware. Not to shabby software at that, the showing of MAG and that level design on LBP was pretty cool(and it got more laughs than the entire Nint. conference) MS's conference was just the announcement of FFXIII on 360 which i mean is big but i mean thats not going to carry you to victory. Nintendo conference was just plain lame. I get it your trying to appeal to your casuals but it was painful watching you trying to be comical about it.

[QUOTE="Couth_"]FFXIII is a timed exclusive by atleast a year, and FFXIII versus is still exclusive. FFXIII Versus will probably be on time with FFXIII for the 360. That sounds like a win for everyonePatriot298

Did we watch the same program???? lol..Sony almost completely focused on hardware! They talked about the PS2 more than the PS3. Sounded like a cry for attention to me.

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-170662.aspx

I don't get this...They still have FFXIII. Not like they lost anything here.

Just more gamers are allowed to play it now without another wall.