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#51 omho88
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isn't the prolugue something PD used to do since GT3?? why do people say it's milkage now ??

On topic: Great news,this game will markdly compansate for some losses Sony had this generation.

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#52 chaplainDMK
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[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]It started at $40 so everything's good ;) /s. On topic, saw that and was originally shocked to see that. Very nice for Sony to see

88mphSlayer

It was also only a demo compared to a full GT game, not other racing games.

it was pretty much a demo compared to any racing game

Witch racing game apart from GT and Forza have 70+ licensed cars with evrey inch detailed to the max? It was like Need for Speed: Shift with only 6 tracks for 40$.
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#53 88mphSlayer
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[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

It was also only a demo compared to a full GT game, not other racing games.

chaplainDMK

it was pretty much a demo compared to any racing game

Witch racing game apart from GT and Forza have 70+ licensed cars with evrey inch detailed to the max? It was like Need for Speed: Shift with only 6 tracks for 40$.

quantity of cars doesn't mean much when you're still buying an unfinished product

buggy physics, glitches, bad race programming (since the AI is almost nonexistent), an overall lack of content (whole game can be beaten in a day), lack of features, etc.

sorry but when i bought GT5p i felt duped, should've bought Burnout Paradise back in 2008

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#54 1080pOnly
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[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

It was also only a demo compared to a full GT game, not other racing games.

chaplainDMK

it was pretty much a demo compared to any racing game

Witch racing game apart from GT and Forza have 70+ licensed cars with evrey inch detailed to the max? It was like Need for Speed: Shift with only 6 tracks for 40$.

It was a fairly basic downloadable game sold for $40. It does not have a fraction of the features of a full game yet costs almost as much.

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#55 chaplainDMK
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[QUOTE="chaplainDMK"][QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

it was pretty much a demo compared to any racing game

88mphSlayer

Witch racing game apart from GT and Forza have 70+ licensed cars with evrey inch detailed to the max? It was like Need for Speed: Shift with only 6 tracks for 40$.

quantity of cars doesn't mean much when you're still buying an unfinished product

buggy physics, glitches, bad race programming (since the AI is almost nonexistent), an overall lack of content (whole game can be beaten in a day), lack of features, etc.

sorry but when i bought GT5p i felt duped, should've bought Burnout Paradise back in 2008

Buggy physics? Glitches? But yea i agree the AI is brain dead...
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#56 shabab12
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Sony sold a demo for $40?

...And Cows claim MS is the greediest company?

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were you forced to buy it to play online?
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#57 elcoholic
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i bought it used for like $20 and i think that was a fair price for the content in it. And to this day its still the best looking racing game/demo on consoles. The london track especially looks amazing as do the cars.

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#60 Vinegar_Strokes
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[QUOTE="YuriSH"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

sorry but I dont belive it one bit.

5-6 years of development so far? no I dont believe that 5 million in sales at what was it? 30 dollars a pop I dont believe it covered the development cost, and they still have yet to release it.

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GT5 development cost so far is 60 mil, so it's very possible that it did happen and not only that but prices usually are different in US, EU, and JP.

Yep, exactly. :) 5 Million x $30 = A lot of money. Not to mention that different exchange rates and stuff. So yea... I can see this being as true. Guess we won't know 100% though.

but they don't get all of that $30 they would see maybe $15 per copy after the retailer takes its share
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#61 Vinegar_Strokes
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[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]

Sony sold a demo for $40?

...And Cows claim MS is the greediest company?

shabab12
were you forced to buy it to play online?

so your not denying that sony is greedy your just says MS is too
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#62 Mario1331
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yea great for sony although i doubt GT5 sells more then 3 mllion copies

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#63 FIipMode
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yea great for sony although i doubt GT5 sells more then 3 mllion copies

Mario1331
Sell less than the Prologue? That's going to be a first in the series, lets see if that happens.
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#64 worlock77
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

sorry but I dont belive it one bit.

5-6 years of development so far? no I dont believe that 5 million in sales at what was it? 30 dollars a pop I dont believe it covered the development cost, and they still have yet to release it.

SapSacPrime

I believe it, these companies bleat on this gen about how they aren't making enough but the truth is they are just greedy (or more accuratly the company which now owns them is greedy). This is just further proof of how we are being ripped off with game prices.

How are we being ripped off with game prices? I remember buying NES games for $50, and that was more than 20 years ago.

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#65 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

yea great for sony although i doubt GT5 sells more then 3 mllion copies

FIipMode

Sell less than the Prologue? That's going to be a first in the series, lets see if that happens.

yea i believe so i just dont see it cracking 5-6 million maybe 3-4 but idk lol its just a feeling i get

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#66 Pug-Nasty
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[QUOTE="chaplainDMK"][QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

it was pretty much a demo compared to any racing game

88mphSlayer

Witch racing game apart from GT and Forza have 70+ licensed cars with evrey inch detailed to the max? It was like Need for Speed: Shift with only 6 tracks for 40$.

quantity of cars doesn't mean much when you're still buying an unfinished product

buggy physics, glitches, bad race programming (since the AI is almost nonexistent), an overall lack of content (whole game can be beaten in a day), lack of features, etc.

sorry but when i bought GT5p i felt duped, should've bought Burnout Paradise back in 2008

If you felt duped, that's your fault. It's not like PD ever said that Prologue was the full game at a discount. There's a reason it wasn't full priced.

Fact is, there was never any lies told about the product, if you weren't happy with it that sucks, but it's really just your fault.

And haven't they been releasing these prologues in Japan for a while now? It's a fund raiser for an otherwise unrealistic dev time on making the final product the best it can be.

Maybe if you get your hands on GT5 and are blown away, you can stop feeling duped because you contributed to that.

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#67 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="mgs_freak91"][QUOTE="YuriSH"] GT5 development cost so far is 60 mil, so it's very possible that it did happen and not only that but prices usually are different in US, EU, and JP. Vinegar_Strokes
Yep, exactly. :) 5 Million x $30 = A lot of money. Not to mention that different exchange rates and stuff. So yea... I can see this being as true. Guess we won't know 100% though.

but they don't get all of that $30 they would see maybe $15 per copy after the retailer takes its share

It was sold on the Playstation Network. I never saw it anywhere else.

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#68 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

yea great for sony although i doubt GT5 sells more then 3 mllion copies

Mario1331

Sell less than the Prologue? That's going to be a first in the series, lets see if that happens.

yea i believe so i just dont see it cracking 5-6 million maybe 3-4 but idk lol its just a feeling i get

A feeling? Not very convincing. Many of the people who were willing to pay the money for the demo a few years back will buy GT5, and then there's a combination of people who didn't buy the demo because they rather wait for the full game and a variety of others who will buy the game for a variety of reasons.
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#69 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"][QUOTE="mgs_freak91"] Yep, exactly. :) 5 Million x $30 = A lot of money. Not to mention that different exchange rates and stuff. So yea... I can see this being as true. Guess we won't know 100% though.lx_theo

but they don't get all of that $30 they would see maybe $15 per copy after the retailer takes its share

It was sold on the Playstation Network. I never saw it anywhere else.

heh... so you never been to an electronic store, or visited any online retailer that sells videogames (amazon.com for example)?

also, since this is about profit... dont forget that it was bundled with the ps3, meaning they were given away for free, but the 'sale' still counts

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lol epic
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[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"][QUOTE="mgs_freak91"] Yep, exactly. :) 5 Million x $30 = A lot of money. Not to mention that different exchange rates and stuff. So yea... I can see this being as true. Guess we won't know 100% though.lx_theo

but they don't get all of that $30 they would see maybe $15 per copy after the retailer takes its share

It was sold on the Playstation Network. I never saw it anywhere else.

It was sold at retail. I bought the d/l version. Then I went to Iraq and couldn't play it so I bought the disc version. Sucks that the game saves aren't compatible with each other.

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#72 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"]

[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"] but they don't get all of that $30 they would see maybe $15 per copy after the retailer takes its share ogvampire

It was sold on the Playstation Network. I never saw it anywhere else.

heh... so you never been to an electronic store, or visited any online retailer that sells videogames (amazon.com for example)?

also, since this is about profit... dont forget that it was bundled with the ps3, meaning they were given away for free, but the 'sale' still counts

Maybe I just never came across it. If I remember correctly, then I didn't buy the greatest amount of games that year. That and I probably haven't looked for it either.Still how do we know how many were sold over any of these situaions anyways?

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#73 BTBAM127
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yes "demo" that i have gotten more gameplay time out of them most games these days :roll:

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#74 Bread_or_Decide
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How many hours of gameplay were in GT5P?
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#75 lx_theo
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How many hours of gameplay were in GT5P? Bread_or_Decide

Its a racing game, so as long as you feel.

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#76 Pug-Nasty
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"]

[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"] but they don't get all of that $30 they would see maybe $15 per copy after the retailer takes its share ogvampire

It was sold on the Playstation Network. I never saw it anywhere else.

heh... so you never been to an electronic store, or visited any online retailer that sells videogames (amazon.com for example)?

also, since this is about profit... dont forget that it was bundled with the ps3, meaning they were given away for free, but the 'sale' still counts

That's true, but I don't see anyone breaking down Halo 3's sales that way.

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#77 GrabTheYayo
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TC just going to get the game because of hype. then he will realise how boring it is and never talk about the game agian

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#78 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="lx_theo"]

It was sold on the Playstation Network. I never saw it anywhere else.

lx_theo

heh... so you never been to an electronic store, or visited any online retailer that sells videogames (amazon.com for example)?

also, since this is about profit... dont forget that it was bundled with the ps3, meaning they were given away for free, but the 'sale' still counts

Maybe I just never came across it. If I remember correctly, then I didn't buy the greatest amount of games that year. That and I probably haven't looked for it either.Still how do we know how many were sold over any of these situaions anyways?

exactly... which is why i would take the word of Sony or the developer instead of the author is this article... who just assumes everything

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#79 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="lx_theo"]

It was sold on the Playstation Network. I never saw it anywhere else.

Pug-Nasty

heh... so you never been to an electronic store, or visited any online retailer that sells videogames (amazon.com for example)?

also, since this is about profit... dont forget that it was bundled with the ps3, meaning they were given away for free, but the 'sale' still counts

That's true, but I don't see anyone breaking down Halo 3's sales that way.

well yeah, sales is one thing, profit is another... we're talking about the latter here, where actual sales are counted to determine profit

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#80 finalstar2007
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TC just going to get the game because of hype. then he will realise how boring it is and never talk about the game agian

GrabTheYayo

lol will see, it is true that i ahve always found racing games to be boring but all my friends are getting it i want to get it too and join the fun then truly see how big this game is

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#82 LP4EVA2005
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TC just going to get the game because of hype. then he will realise how boring it is and never talk about the game agian

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lol i know right
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#83 johnnyblazed88
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5 million people paid 30$for that peice a crap demo?

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#84 ermacness
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sorry but I dont belive it one bit.

5-6 years of development so far? no I dont believe that 5 million in sales at what was it? 30 dollars a pop I dont believe it covered the development cost, and they still have yet to release it.

WilliamRLBaker

because you have the "FACTS" to prove them wrong, right?:roll:

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#85 FIipMode
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5 million people paid 30$for that peice a crap demo?

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80 average on Metacritic and a 7.5 here is far from a piece of crap.
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#86 zero_snake99
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sorry but I dont belive it one bit.

5-6 years of development so far? no I dont believe that 5 million in sales at what was it? 30 dollars a pop I dont believe it covered the development cost, and they still have yet to release it.

WilliamRLBaker
Even if Sony only made 10 bucks per game, they would have made 50 million.
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#87 dommeus
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Thought this should be an intresting topic for SW, GTP5 is officially closing to 5 Million units sold and the actual GT5 isnt even out yet. because of this huge success on the Demo alone GT5 is already a big success which could mean that both Sony and PD probably got their investment and the costs they spent back already from the demo alone!

The Offical GT Numbers

GT5 is already a sucess

Thoughts? GT5 to be the first racing game i buy and the first GT game i ever play :D

finalstar2007

So it's reasonable when Sony milk their userbase? Ridiculous bias. I wonder if you'd apply the same logic to a 360/wii/pc exclusive.

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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

sorry but I dont belive it one bit.

5-6 years of development so far? no I dont believe that 5 million in sales at what was it? 30 dollars a pop I dont believe it covered the development cost, and they still have yet to release it.

I'm with this guy!!

So... GT5P is $40... It sold around 5,000,000... $40 and then it dropped to $30 so lets just say $35 x 5,000,000 sales = $175,000,000... GT5 is only $60,000,000 according to someone in this thread...
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#90 thelastguy
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You guys are forgetting retail markup

I doubt GT5P covered the cost

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#91 djsifer01
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Im sure they paid for a great deal of it but not all. Anyways, cant wait for November 2nd, its been 2 long since i played a new GT game.
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#92 Lionheart08
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LOL people paying full price for a demo!Funconsole

Didn't lems pay $60 for an expansion pack? :P

I kid though.

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#93 finalstar2007
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[QUOTE="Funconsole"]LOL people paying full price for a demo!Lionheart08

Didn't lems pay $60 for an expansion pack? :P

I kid though.

Dont they also pay $60 to play online while their already paying for an internet provider?

I kid also :P

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#94 ReaperV7
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Sony sold a demo for $40?

...And Cows claim MS is the greediest company?

bobcheeseball

....:| M$ is selling their crappy kinect games for $60....while sony is charging $40 for their MOVE games. And those games apply to core audiences.

and another thing. GT5P is still a full featured game, just bite sized compared to GT5.

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#95 LP4EVA2005
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="Funconsole"]LOL people paying full price for a demo!finalstar2007

Didn't lems pay $60 for an expansion pack? :P

I kid though.

Dont they also pay $60 to play online while their already paying for an internet provider?

I kid also :P

what you mean your kidding? its true.
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#96 jasonharris48
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is this demo on psn store?

Beautifulpimp

Yea it's around $29.99 USD.

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#97 DeathnoteSz
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sorry but I dont belive it one bit.

5-6 years of development so far? no I dont believe that 5 million in sales at what was it? 30 dollars a pop I dont believe it covered the development cost, and they still have yet to release it.

WilliamRLBaker

you never believe anything positive about the ps3 or sony

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#98 shinrabanshou
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As a first party game, Sony likely saw about 50% of the retail price for brick-and-mortar store sales, and ~85% of the price from digital download sales (based on a break down of the price of a retail game that OnLive produced).

A reasonably conservative estimate at let's say 3 million copies for $15 per retail sale and 1 million for $25 per digital sale, would put the game's gross at $70 million.

If it hasn't covered GT5's development budget then it's at least covered most of it.

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#99 worlock77
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You guys are forgetting retail markup

I doubt GT5P covered the cost

thelastguy

I don't doubt it at all. Like someone else said, if Sony only made $10-per-unit that's still a cool $50,000,000.