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#1 InfamousC
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"Sony celebrates the start of its new console in Berlin on a large party. There Uwe Bassendowski, managing director Sony computer Entertainment GmbH talked about the PS3 and their competitor Microsoft: "The time of the bad messages is finally past. From now on it will give only good message for us. "... "it will not empty go out a prospective customer."
Concerning ms he said: "Microsoft is not a genuine opponent for us." Ms came last year in the market for consoles including the mobile devices only on a market share of 7,1 per cent, Sony holds 40 per cent. However ms has also no mobile console in the offer."

 http://www.n4g.com/ps3/NewsCom-31047.aspx#Comments

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#2 Squall_Griver
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:lol: @ Company Reps


M$:$onys not our competition
$ony:M$ is no competition

basically its that song "any thing you can do i can do better" on repeat sung by the company reps
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#3 a-tek
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Are you kidding? MS and Sony are arch rivals. If it weren't for people trashing on Wii's graphics, the System Wars board would be named "PS3 VS 360"
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#4 GermanShepard06
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Even if the first xbox had dmc, ff and mgs it would still be what it is today.

Nothing will ever beat the playstation brand, ever!

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#5 ironwarrior2
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Is that translated correctly?  I can't understand any of it.
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#6 -Super-Fly-
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Even if the first xbox had dmc, ff and mgs it would still be what it is today.

Nothing will ever beat the playstation brand, ever!

GermanShepard06

Spoken like a true fanboy. Buy the console for it's name not the games that it plays. Some people shouldn't even consider themselves to be gamers.

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#7 deactivated-5d560a230ad3c
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Is that translated correctly?  I can't understand any of it.ironwarrior2

Glad I'm not the only one.

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#8 deactivated-5d560a230ad3c
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Even if the first xbox had dmc, ff and mgs it would still be what it is today.

Nothing will ever beat the playstation brand, ever!

GermanShepard06

Yeah!  That's right!  Get some!

Not...

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#9 Big_T-Mac
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whats ironic is that sony's still the most likely to get pushed outta the games market.
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#10 Tristam22
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I was under the impression that losing a significant exclusive (DMC4) constituted "bad [news]."
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#11 Danm_999
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Sony doesn't consider Microsoft an opponent. (this thread)

Microsoft doesn't consider Sony an opponent. 

Nobody considers Nintendo an opponent.

 

You have to ask yourself, are these companies just spinning PR wank or do they all actually consider themselves the sole firm in their industries?

 

I think the former personally. 

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#12 user_nat
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What kind of respectable news source calls Micrsoft.."Ms" everywhere.

Anyhow what did you expect him to say "We consider MS to be a huge threat because they have a better console"? 

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#13 mark4091
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Sony is it's own worst enemy, it talk and talk and talks.
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#14 kage_53
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Are you kidding? MS and Sony are arch rivals. If it weren't for people trashing on Wii's graphics, the System Wars board would be named "PS3 VS 360"a-tek
MS's rival is Apple not Sony.
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#15 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="a-tek"]Are you kidding? MS and Sony are arch rivals. If it weren't for people trashing on Wii's graphics, the System Wars board would be named "PS3 VS 360"kage_53
MS's rival is Apple not Sony.

That's in the OS market though.
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#16 kage_53
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Nothing will ever beat the playstation brand, ever!

GermanShepard06
People said that about the N64 and the rest is history.
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#17 cabjnico
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sony is trying to copy ms's saying that their competition was nintendo, not sony
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#18 That-B-Guy
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What exactly beat the N64?
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#19 Homesrfan
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The speech was then cut short by news that DMC 4 is appearing on 360.
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#20 elementz28
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[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

Even if the first xbox had dmc, ff and mgs it would still be what it is today.

Nothing will ever beat the playstation brand, ever!

-Super-Fly-

Spoken like a true fanboy. Buy the console for it's name not the games that it plays. Some people shouldn't even consider themselves to be gamers.

 

What are you talking about? you act like PS3 have no games..Last i heard DMC4 is still coming to the PS3.and there plenty of exclusive comin out...and half of the  ps3 games lemmings wants for the 360..dont tell me all that ps3 have no great games when your dying for our games..lol... 

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[QUOTE="-Super-Fly-"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

Even if the first xbox had dmc, ff and mgs it would still be what it is today.

Nothing will ever beat the playstation brand, ever!

elementz28

Spoken like a true fanboy. Buy the console for it's name not the games that it plays. Some people shouldn't even consider themselves to be gamers.

 

What are you talking about? you act like PS3 have no games..Last i heard DMC4 is still coming to the PS3.and there plenty of exclusive comin out...and half of the  ps3 games lemmings wants for the 360..dont tell me all that ps3 have no great games when your dying for our games..lol... 

Lemmings want PS3 games for ownage, as do cows.
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#22 HDShadow
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[QUOTE="-Super-Fly-"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

Even if the first xbox had dmc, ff and mgs it would still be what it is today.

Nothing will ever beat the playstation brand, ever!

elementz28

Spoken like a true fanboy. Buy the console for it's name not the games that it plays. Some people shouldn't even consider themselves to be gamers.

 

What are you talking about? you act like PS3 have no games..Last i heard DMC4 is still coming to the PS3.and there plenty of exclusive comin out...and half of the  ps3 games lemmings wants for the 360..dont tell me all that ps3 have no great games when your dying for our games..lol... 

Why would we be dying for your games when they're already ours?
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#23 WilliamRLBaker
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yet another infamous thread where he says nothing new, gives no new info, has no proof as to 360 losing. this guy posts like 3 posts a day that follow a basic pattern.... 360 sux nanner nanner boo boo.
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#24 princeofshapeir
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Sony doesn't consider Microsoft an opponent. (this thread)

Microsoft doesn't consider Sony an opponent.

Nobody considers Nintendo an opponent.

You have to ask yourself, are these companies just spinning PR wank or do they all actually consider themselves the sole firm in their industries?

I think the former personally.

Danm_999
Bill Gates himself said that he considered Nintendo their "biggest opponent". Of course, Bill Gates doesn't run Microsoft right now. But still, you're wrong with nobody thinking of Nintendo as an opponent.
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#25 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"]

Sony doesn't consider Microsoft an opponent. (this thread)

Microsoft doesn't consider Sony an opponent.

Nobody considers Nintendo an opponent.

You have to ask yourself, are these companies just spinning PR wank or do they all actually consider themselves the sole firm in their industries?

I think the former personally.

princeofshapeir
Bill Gates himself said that he considered Nintendo their "biggest opponent". Of course, Bill Gates doesn't run Microsoft right now. But still, you're wrong with nobody thinking of Nintendo as an opponent.

Well, they've both called the Wii a 'gimmick' which appeals to casuals and old people. But your comment brings up another interesting point about this, the duplicity of PR. You can pretty much find comments from all companies praising and criticising all consoles in a very final and universal manner.
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#26 theboxmike
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Kind of sounds like sony in damage control lol

But 360 libary>>>>>>>>>>ps3 Libary and 360 should win over the ps3 in this console wars

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#27 BioEffect
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]yet another infamous thread where he says nothing new, gives no new info, has no proof as to 360 losing. this guy posts like 3 posts a day that follow a basic pattern.... 360 sux nanner nanner boo boo.

agreed, he is still reeling that DMC4 is 360 bound. /thread.
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"Sony celebrates the start of its new console in Berlin on a large party. There Uwe Bassendowski, managing director Sony computer Entertainment GmbH talked about the PS3 and their competitor Microsoft: "The time of the bad messages is finally past. From now on it will give only good message for us. "... "it will not empty go out a prospective customer."
Concerning ms he said: "Microsoft is not a genuine opponent for us." Ms came last year in the market for consoles including the mobile devices only on a market share of 7,1 per cent, Sony holds 40 per cent. However ms has also no mobile console in the offer."

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/NewsCom-31047.aspx#Comments

:lol:

InfamousC

Wow what a joke...coming from a Sony rep big freaking deal lol I'm sure there are a million quotes from many different kinds of people we can find to mock the PS3 but who cares. and this coming from Sony is supposed to be good, they already showed they don't know what they are doing with poor sales and worldwide bashing of the PS3 so any comments like coming from them pretty much mean nothing.

I mean didn't Meryl Lynch predict Sony wouldn't win this war? Not saying that's true but they do that kind of a thing for a living so that means more then what a Sony rep would say 

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"Sony celebrates the start of its new console in Berlin on a large party. There Uwe Bassendowski, managing director Sony computer Entertainment GmbH talked about the PS3 and their competitor Microsoft: "The time of the bad messages is finally past. From now on it will give only good message for us. "... "it will not empty go out a prospective customer."
Concerning ms he said: "Microsoft is not a genuine opponent for us." Ms came last year in the market for consoles including the mobile devices only on a market share of 7,1 per cent, Sony holds 40 per cent. However ms has also no mobile console in the offer."

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/NewsCom-31047.aspx#Comments

:lol:

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Well, for a while there after GDC, Sony managed to tone down the hubris. Shame it couldn't last.
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#30 Zenkuso
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Blah blah blah and yet still they are getting there bums headed to them, i mean seriously next it will be we own the the world.

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#31 Mister_Bate
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The speech was then cut short by news that DMC 4 is appearing on 360.Homesrfan

lol:shock::lol:

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#32 akuma303x
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sony has the pr team of an idiot. the fact that even after their poor showing the last year or so of events, the cg renders they got caught passing off, the 2 1080p signals, 4-d,120 fps gaming they said they would accomplish with ps3. the nexgen doesnt start till we say, - they said. your talikng about the most idiotic pr team in the history of gaming. if their product wasnt so appealing to gamers, they would of been dead out the gate.
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#33 Mister_Bate
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"]

Sony doesn't consider Microsoft an opponent. (this thread)

Microsoft doesn't consider Sony an opponent.

Nobody considers Nintendo an opponent.

 

You have to ask yourself, are these companies just spinning PR wank or do they all actually consider themselves the sole firm in their industries?

 

I think the former personally.

princeofshapeir

Bill Gates himself said that he considered Nintendo their "biggest opponent". Of course, Bill Gates doesn't run Microsoft right now. But still, you're wrong with nobody thinking of Nintendo as an opponent.

Bill isn't retired yet

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]yet another infamous thread where he says nothing new, gives no new info, has no proof as to 360 losing. this guy posts like 3 posts a day that follow a basic pattern.... 360 sux nanner nanner boo boo.BioEffect
agreed, he is still reeling that DMC4 is 360 bound. /thread.

Yeah, did you see his earlier post where he said the Wii would be the 360 by august. I mean how sad is that???

His Sony PS3 console he loves so blindly can't beat anyone even in monthly sales so he looks to Nintendo, that is sad... I mean really sad 

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#35 magus-21
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A year or two ago, this might not have been laughable. Hell, it may even have been believable.
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[QUOTE="a-tek"]Are you kidding? MS and Sony are arch rivals. If it weren't for people trashing on Wii's graphics, the System Wars board would be named "PS3 VS 360"kage_53
MS's rival is Apple not Sony.

if you consider a 5% marketshare holding company a rival :lol:
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#37 Tristam22
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A year or two ago, this might not have been laughable. Hell, it may even have been believable.magus-21
Scratch believable, it would've been expected.
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Nothing will ever beat the playstation brand, ever!

GermanShepard06

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Are you sure about that my friend because the PS3 is getting their tail whipped like a bad stepchild right now!!!!!!

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"Sony celebrates the start of its new console in Berlin on a large party. There Uwe Bassendowski, managing director Sony computer Entertainment GmbH talked about the PS3 and their competitor Microsoft: "The time of the bad messages is finally past. From now on it will give only good message for us. "... "it will not empty go out a prospective customer."
Concerning ms he said: "Microsoft is not a genuine opponent for us." Ms came last year in the market for consoles including the mobile devices only on a market share of 7,1 per cent, Sony holds 40 per cent. However ms has also no mobile console in the offer."

 http://www.n4g.com/ps3/NewsCom-31047.aspx#Comments

:lol:

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I was there, and I laugh at Sony for their comments...
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#40 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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So if Nintendo isn't a competitor, and MS isn't a competitor...then who is Sony losing to?

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#41 jbeen
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whats ironic is that sony's still the most likely to get pushed outta the games market.Big_T-Mac

That is true, Sony did not even want to get into the game market and it was only because Nintendo shafted them years ago that they got into the market to begin with. I think there are still some Sony executives who would not think twice about pulling out of the console market if it stopped making money.

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#42 mike1889
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According to that quote MS=7.1% and Sony=40%, leaving Nintendo 52.9%. That must mean Nintendo IS their competition AND is beating them. Not so straight out of Sony's mouth.
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#43 2largeadults
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[QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]whats ironic is that sony's still the most likely to get pushed outta the games market.jbeen

That is true, Sony did not even want to get into the game market and it was only because Nintendo shafted them years ago that they got into the market to begin with. I think there are still some Sony executives who would not think twice about pulling out of the console market if it stopped making money.

PlayStation represents the most profitable division of Sony. What imaginary executives are you speaking off that intend to kill off their most profitable division?
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#44 Guiltfeeder566
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Someones in denial...
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#45 shungokustasu
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Sony is it's own worst enemy, it talk and talk and talks.mark4091
MS said the same thing...
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[QUOTE="kage_53"][QUOTE="a-tek"]Are you kidding? MS and Sony are arch rivals. If it weren't for people trashing on Wii's graphics, the System Wars board would be named "PS3 VS 360"Danm_999
MS's rival is Apple not Sony.

That's in the OS market though.

not even. macs are only about 5-7% of the consumer market still.
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#47 freshfighter83
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Face it, the guys an idiot. That has to be one of the stupidest things that he could have said. Sony know microsoft are an opponent and saying anything different is just so unbelievebly arrogant. I hope they get their ass handed to them by microsoft so as they can stop talking s*#t and start making games.
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#48 REVENGEotSITH
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From the dozens of interviews I've read from Sony Executives (the EGM Jack Tretton interview and the recent GDC interviews with Dr Evil - Phil Harrison - are the most recent ones that come to mind), I have NEVER seen Sony acknowledge Microsoft as a true competitor.  WTF?  Why do they always do this?  Is it out of arrogance or ignorance?  Is it to diss Microsoft?  I just can't figure it out. 

I swear, they must feel that if they acknowledge the 360 and Microsoft, then it is like sacriledge or something like that.  Anyone with half a brain can see that the 360 and the Wii are true competitors to the PS3, but Sony must feel that if they don't talk about either of them, then they don't exist.

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[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

Even if the first xbox had dmc, ff and mgs it would still be what it is today.

Nothing will ever beat the playstation brand, ever!

CubeJL

Yeah! That's right! Get some!

Not...

ROLF
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You gotta save face somehow.