Sony pleads with developers to stick with PS3

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for DaysAirlines
DaysAirlines

9537

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#1 DaysAirlines
Member since 2006 • 9537 Posts
Via GamePro"One piece of news that came out this week was that Sony pleaded with third-party developers not to abandon its struggling [PS3] platform," wrote Dean Takahashi of the San Jose Mercury News.In related news, Video Business reported earlier this month that the newly announced 40GB PS3s will be in short supply as Sony purportedly makes more money when selling higher-end models.
Avatar image for dlp21
dlp21

2116

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#2 dlp21
Member since 2003 • 2116 Posts
This came from some guys blog. In other words, not credible.
Avatar image for DaysAirlines
DaysAirlines

9537

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#3 DaysAirlines
Member since 2006 • 9537 Posts
This came from some guys blog. In other words, not credible.dlp21
Dean Takahashi isn't some guy.
Avatar image for BrownWalrus
BrownWalrus

3467

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#4 BrownWalrus
Member since 2005 • 3467 Posts
It also came from Systermwars.com, did it not?
Avatar image for deactivated-618bc23e9b1c9
deactivated-618bc23e9b1c9

7339

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#5 deactivated-618bc23e9b1c9
Member since 2007 • 7339 Posts
LOL cows getting owned again. The industry is all about money and success, Sony is pulling out the check book once again.
Avatar image for Nike_Air
Nike_Air

19737

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#6 Nike_Air
Member since 2006 • 19737 Posts

Article is a few days old and this has been posted a bunch of times already. I don't see any real quotes or anything of substance.

Avatar image for Titus_WoWplayer
Titus_WoWplayer

702

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#7 Titus_WoWplayer
Member since 2005 • 702 Posts
lol yep
Avatar image for dlp21
dlp21

2116

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#8 dlp21
Member since 2003 • 2116 Posts

[QUOTE="dlp21"]This came from some guys blog. In other words, not credible.DaysAirlines
Dean Takahashi isn't some guy.

Um, yes he is.

Avatar image for Reyes360
Reyes360

2866

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#9 Reyes360
Member since 2007 • 2866 Posts

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="dlp21"]This came from some guys blog. In other words, not credible.dlp21

Dean Takahashi isn't some guy.

Um, yes he is.

um no he isnt.

Avatar image for Khanezhyray
Khanezhyray

901

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#10 Khanezhyray
Member since 2005 • 901 Posts

[QUOTE="dlp21"]This came from some guys blog. In other words, not credible.DaysAirlines
Dean Takahashi isn't some guy.

Does that mean everything he says is valid? I think not.

Everyone is opinionated. Some more than others...

Oh RIGHT, I remember him. The guy who really pushed the ENTIRELY false rumor that MS was making a portable gaming device that would be coming out in the near future in '06. He was right on the Zune, but the portable system? Way off.

This ain't credible, IMO.

Avatar image for dlp21
dlp21

2116

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#11 dlp21
Member since 2003 • 2116 Posts
[QUOTE="dlp21"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="dlp21"]This came from some guys blog. In other words, not credible.Reyes360

Dean Takahashi isn't some guy.

Um, yes he is.

um no he isnt.

Yes, he is. He is not quoting any Sony official, he is going off of some source. There is nothing that can validate this source, so this he can not be proven to be truthful, even if he thinks he is, in his statement. And Takahashi really is just some guy.

Avatar image for danjammer69
danjammer69

4331

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#12 danjammer69
Member since 2004 • 4331 Posts

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="dlp21"]This came from some guys blog. In other words, not credible.dlp21

Dean Takahashi isn't some guy.

Um, yes he is.

Dip, may I ask how you broke your back? I have had major back problems for years now and I can understand the physical and mental pain this can cause. Do yourself a favor.....avoid the opioids if you can man, they can and will own you. Good luck.

Avatar image for Khanezhyray
Khanezhyray

901

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#13 Khanezhyray
Member since 2005 • 901 Posts

..well... even if he is... that source could be totally wrong, and he's still going off it.

He really needs to investigate into sources rather than just posting whatever material he gets from any random source.

Still not credible IMO.

Avatar image for Riverwolf007
Riverwolf007

26023

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#14 Riverwolf007
Member since 2005 • 26023 Posts

Lol, he was credible when he blew the whistle on the MS $800 bribe but not now?

Same guy right?

*edit

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7262&Itemid=53

Avatar image for Reyes360
Reyes360

2866

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#15 Reyes360
Member since 2007 • 2866 Posts
daysofairline is the best poster in system wars. I dont think he would post crud. Also Cows defending Sony isnt something new, I mean for gosh darn sake you know this stuff is being talked about. Sony is getting murdered , lets hope the 200 dollar price drop makes them competitive.
Avatar image for i-lick-monkeys
i-lick-monkeys

2971

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#16 i-lick-monkeys
Member since 2007 • 2971 Posts
this is old
Avatar image for dlp21
dlp21

2116

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#17 dlp21
Member since 2003 • 2116 Posts
I have a fracture of the L5 and a herniated disk between the L5S1. I broke it jumping out of airplanes, fast roping out of helicopters and humping a ruck in Ranger School. I am in the army and not really sure which of the above activities was the definitive cause. But no pain killers for me, I just deal, got two cortizone shots, but the second one didn't help so now I am just waiting to get surgery.
Avatar image for Reyes360
Reyes360

2866

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#18 Reyes360
Member since 2007 • 2866 Posts

Lol, he was credible when he blew the whistle on the MS $800 bribe but not now?

Same guy right?

Riverwolf007

Dean is credible he knows more industry insiders than most journalists and he also wrote a book inside the xbox that was excellent.

Avatar image for Sony_Best_Ps3
Sony_Best_Ps3

157

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#19 Sony_Best_Ps3
Member since 2006 • 157 Posts
consumers plead with microsoft to fix red rings of death from killing their console
Avatar image for Nike_Air
Nike_Air

19737

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#20 Nike_Air
Member since 2006 • 19737 Posts

daysofairline is the best poster in system wars. I dont think he would post crud. Also Cows defending Sony isnt something new, I mean for gosh darn sake you know this stuff is being talked about. Sony is getting murdered , lets hope the 200 dollar price drop makes them competitive.Reyes360
Days is slipping. Not only is he posting old stuff we already went over .... but there isn't much to this article.

Avatar image for SpruceCaboose
SpruceCaboose

24589

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 9

User Lists: 0

#21 SpruceCaboose
Member since 2005 • 24589 Posts

[QUOTE="dlp21"]This came from some guys blog. In other words, not credible.DaysAirlines
Dean Takahashi isn't some guy.

He is a reporter from the San Jose Mercury. His blog is more credible than the SDF. That is about as far as I would take it.

Avatar image for dlp21
dlp21

2116

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#23 dlp21
Member since 2003 • 2116 Posts

Lol, he was credible when he blew the whistle on the MS $800 bribe but not now?

Same guy right?

Riverwolf007

He had straight up proof of the bribe, he had the bag with all the bribe gear in it. That is the difference, I am not saying he is always wrong, but I am not saying he always right either.

Avatar image for Grive
Grive

2971

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#24 Grive
Member since 2006 • 2971 Posts

this is oldi-lick-monkeys

Pretty much, yeah.

Still, that's some good news for cows, I'm surprised people are getting defensive about this. This gen's problems have been partially because Sony rested on it's laurels regarding exclusives: Remember, they lost GTAIV because Kutaragi simply didn't take the time to answer Rockstar.

So it's good to know Sony is now being proactive. Takahashi is quite an attention whore, but he does get some good insider info from time to time, so I'd just sift through the loaded words (pleads, struggling, etc), and go right into the gist of it:

Sony is being proactive regarding getting games for their platform. considering their current track record, I'd say this is one of the main medicines (along with a cheaper price) to improve their standing.

Avatar image for SpruceCaboose
SpruceCaboose

24589

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 9

User Lists: 0

#25 SpruceCaboose
Member since 2005 • 24589 Posts
[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

Lol, he was credible when he blew the whistle on the MS $800 bribe but not now?

Same guy right?

dlp21

He had straight up proof of the bribe, he had the bag with all the bribe gear in it. That is the difference, I am not saying he is always wrong, but I am not saying he always right either.

It was not a bribe. Jebus. He wanted special attention, so he called a swag bag (which is common in the undustry for huge titles) a bribe. Suddenly he and his blog are popular.

Avatar image for Tiefster
Tiefster

14639

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 37

User Lists: 0

#26 Tiefster
Member since 2005 • 14639 Posts
[QUOTE="dlp21"]This came from some guys blog. In other words, not credible.DaysAirlines
Dean Takahashi isn't some guy.



Hes a respectible guy but anyone can over-exagerate on a blog with no or little consequence as compared to writing in an acredited journal or magazine. I mean for all we know 2 or 3 lower level 3rd party devs had some problems and Sony had to convince them to stay on with their projects. Thats really a drop in a bucket. If Sony truly had a crisis on their hands we'd know.
Avatar image for Reyes360
Reyes360

2866

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#27 Reyes360
Member since 2007 • 2866 Posts
[QUOTE="dlp21"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

Lol, he was credible when he blew the whistle on the MS $800 bribe but not now?

Same guy right?

SpruceCaboose

He had straight up proof of the bribe, he had the bag with all the bribe gear in it. That is the difference, I am not saying he is always wrong, but I am not saying he always right either.

It was not a bribe. Jebus. He wanted special attention, so he called a swag bag (which is common in the undustry for huge titles) a bribe. Suddenly he and his blog are popular.

um no you are so sadly mistaken. lol suddenly he and his blog are popular, lol ever hear of INside the Xbox? wow cant believe you are so uninformed.

Avatar image for SpruceCaboose
SpruceCaboose

24589

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 9

User Lists: 0

#28 SpruceCaboose
Member since 2005 • 24589 Posts

um no you are so sadly mistaken. lol suddenly he and his blog are popular, lol ever hear of INside the Xbox? wow cant believe you are so uninformed.

Reyes360

Yes I have heard of his book. Have you? Its called Opening the Xbox: Inside Microsoft's Plan to Unleash an Entertainment revolution, not Inside the Xbox.

Lots of people have books. Your point is heavily flawed in that are.

What forum was linking to his blog because of his book? None. Now that he was "bribed" he is suddenly some gaming god. Its junk.

And I am far from uninformed.

As an avid reader of GameSpot, Game Informer, EGM, OXM, and PSU, not to mention Xbox-scene.com, PS3fanboy, and WiiFanboy, not to mention the owner of all three current gen systems and a computer science major at University, I would say I am rather informed about gaming.

Unlike you, I don't try and use that as justification for weilding my opinion like a club.

Avatar image for Reyes360
Reyes360

2866

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#29 Reyes360
Member since 2007 • 2866 Posts
[QUOTE="Reyes360"]

um no you are so sadly mistaken. lol suddenly he and his blog are popular, lol ever hear of INside the Xbox? wow cant believe you are so uninformed.

SpruceCaboose

Yes I have heard of his book. Have you? Its called Opening the Xbox: Inside Microsoft's Plan to Unleash an Entertainment revolution, not Inside the Xbox.

Lots of people have books. Your point is heavily flawed in that are.

What forum was linking to his blog because of his book? None. Now that he was "bribed" he is suddenly some gaming god. Its junk.

And I am far from uninformed.

As an avid reader of GameSpot, Game Informer, EGM, OXM, and PSU, not to mention Xbox-scene.com, PS3fanboy, and WiiFanboy, not to mention the owner of all three current gen systems and a computer science major at University, I would say I am rather informed about gaming.

Unlike you, I don't try and use that as justification for weilding my opinion like a club.

lol ok sure keep giving out your credentials, ill take Dean T. over you anyday. Good luck on that degree my friend.

Avatar image for SpruceCaboose
SpruceCaboose

24589

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 9

User Lists: 0

#30 SpruceCaboose
Member since 2005 • 24589 Posts

lol ok sure keep giving out your credentials, ill take Dean T. over you anyday. Good luck on that degree my friend.

Reyes360

I don't care who you believe, but when you try and claim that I am uninformed about a book, its a good idea to know the name of the book yourself at least.

Avatar image for Reyes360
Reyes360

2866

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#31 Reyes360
Member since 2007 • 2866 Posts
[QUOTE="Reyes360"]

lol ok sure keep giving out your credentials, ill take Dean T. over you anyday. Good luck on that degree my friend.

SpruceCaboose

I don't care who you believe, but when you try and claim that I am uninformed about a book, its a good idea to know the name of the book yourself at least.

No thanks..... Dean rules!!!!

Avatar image for TheSolution3k
TheSolution3k

224

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#32 TheSolution3k
Member since 2005 • 224 Posts
Where is this "news" coming from.....where is the source? I'd rather read the tabloids than subject myself to reading more garbage rumors and speculations.....good day Dean....
Avatar image for excelR83
excelR83

2932

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#33 excelR83
Member since 2003 • 2932 Posts

You're a couple days late, Mr. Current.

It's not that credible to me. Why would developers abandon the opportunity to make money? They may not make as much money on the PS3 as the 360, but they make more from both than they make from just the 360, right?

Avatar image for Khanezhyray
Khanezhyray

901

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#34 Khanezhyray
Member since 2005 • 901 Posts

daysofairline is the best poster in system wars. I dont think he would post crud. Also Cows defending Sony isnt something new, I mean for gosh darn sake you know this stuff is being talked about. Sony is getting murdered , lets hope the 200 dollar price drop makes them competitive.Reyes360

Don't grade a post on the poster's credibility, especially if it's a quote. Investigate the source, not the poster. The poster is almost always the middleman between the source and the reader.

Any poster can get a good or bad source, it's a matter of how they tell if the source is valid or not.

In all honesty, I'd be less biased towards other consoles than the PS3 if I didn't have to fight off microsoft and nintendo fanboys daily.. I'd like to be less biased, but it seems like that will never happen.

Avatar image for excelR83
excelR83

2932

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#35 excelR83
Member since 2003 • 2932 Posts
[QUOTE="Reyes360"]

um no you are so sadly mistaken. lol suddenly he and his blog are popular, lol ever hear of INside the Xbox? wow cant believe you are so uninformed.

SpruceCaboose

Yes I have heard of his book. Have you? Its called Opening the Xbox: Inside Microsoft's Plan to Unleash an Entertainment revolution, not Inside the Xbox.

Lots of people have books. Your point is heavily flawed in that are.

What forum was linking to his blog because of his book? None. Now that he was "bribed" he is suddenly some gaming god. Its junk.

And I am far from uninformed.

As an avid reader of GameSpot, Game Informer, EGM, OXM, and PSU, not to mention Xbox-scene.com, PS3fanboy, and WiiFanboy, not to mention the owner of all three current gen systems and a computer science major at University, I would say I am rather informed about gaming.

Unlike you, I don't try and use that as justification for weilding my opinion like a club.

Ownage SO approved.

Avatar image for excelR83
excelR83

2932

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#36 excelR83
Member since 2003 • 2932 Posts

[QUOTE="i-lick-monkeys"]this is oldGrive

Pretty much, yeah.

Still, that's some good news for cows, I'm surprised people are getting defensive about this. This gen's problems have been partially because Sony rested on it's laurels regarding exclusives: Remember, they lost GTAIV because Kutaragi simply didn't take the time to answer Rockstar.

So it's good to know Sony is now being proactive. Takahashi is quite an attention whore, but he does get some good insider info from time to time, so I'd just sift through the loaded words (pleads, struggling, etc), and go right into the gist of it:

Sony is being proactive regarding getting games for their platform. considering their current track record, I'd say this is one of the main medicines (along with a cheaper price) to improve their standing.

Great post.

Avatar image for shadowfox55
shadowfox55

1609

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#37 shadowfox55
Member since 2007 • 1609 Posts

Reading his article has me personally to not getting a PS3


Just playing, I know Sony will tell its consumers when something going on.

Avatar image for AchievementNuts
AchievementNuts

476

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#38 AchievementNuts
Member since 2007 • 476 Posts
now sony has to BEG devs to stick with PS3, how sad :lol:
Avatar image for -Serpahim-
-Serpahim-

1627

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#39 -Serpahim-
Member since 2007 • 1627 Posts

[QUOTE="dlp21"]This came from some guys blog. In other words, not credible.DaysAirlines
Dean Takahashi isn't some guy.

who is dean takahashi?

Avatar image for fuzzysquash
fuzzysquash

17374

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 42

User Lists: 0

#40 fuzzysquash
Member since 2004 • 17374 Posts
[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Reyes360"]

lol ok sure keep giving out your credentials, ill take Dean T. over you anyday. Good luck on that degree my friend.

Reyes360

I don't care who you believe, but when you try and claim that I am uninformed about a book, its a good idea to know the name of the book yourself at least.

No thanks..... Dean rules!!!!

Reyes...you're out of your league, bud.

Avatar image for Grive
Grive

2971

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#41 Grive
Member since 2006 • 2971 Posts

You're a couple days late, Mr. Current.

It's not that credible to me. Why would developers abandon the opportunity to make money? They may not make as much money on the PS3 as the 360, but they make more from both than they make from just the 360, right?

excelR83

Not necessarily on two counts:

First, it might happen that the Ps3 version becomes unprofitable. This is the most obvious alternative. However, it's not the only one. The second one requires a bit of knowledge on project evaluation. Let's assume that on average, a dev team will take 2 years and make 1 million dollars per Xbox 360 game. Porting this to the Ps3 will take the dev team 1 year, and will bring 400,000 dollars. Thus, the return would be $500,000 yearly if you make 360 exclusives, and 466,666 dollars yearly if you make a x360 game and port it to the ps3.

Of course, these are made up numbers, and not always will this be the case (otherwise there would be no multiplats or third party PS3 games), but it's an example to show how it might not necessarily make sense to port a game even if it's profitable, depending on the circumstances.

Oh, and fuzzysquash gets seconded. Reyes is quite out of his league in that, erm... "debate".

Avatar image for mazdero
mazdero

1754

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#42 mazdero
Member since 2002 • 1754 Posts
[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Reyes360"]

lol ok sure keep giving out your credentials, ill take Dean T. over you anyday. Good luck on that degree my friend.

Reyes360

I don't care who you believe, but when you try and claim that I am uninformed about a book, its a good idea to know the name of the book yourself at least.

No thanks..... Dean rules!!!!

If Dean stated The 360 has only sold 8 million systems total, and MS won't be releasing a new console because they don't want to keep supporting a division that does nothing but lose money, Would you feel the same way about him?

Avatar image for bearbones
bearbones

1332

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#43 bearbones
Member since 2006 • 1332 Posts
[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Reyes360"]

lol ok sure keep giving out your credentials, ill take Dean T. over you anyday. Good luck on that degree my friend.

Reyes360

I don't care who you believe, but when you try and claim that I am uninformed about a book, its a good idea to know the name of the book yourself at least.

No thanks..... Dean rules!!!!

Perhaps you should write a book? Here's a suggestion for the title:

How To Make An Ass Out Of Yourself

Avatar image for Lilac_Benjie
Lilac_Benjie

12287

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#44 Lilac_Benjie
Member since 2006 • 12287 Posts

this is oldi-lick-monkeys

This will never grow old.