Sony: PS3 at 31 million, gap is now 8 million

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#1 GulliversTravel
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/slow-ps3-start-was-down-to-stock-sony

This is straight from Peter Dille. Despite the massive growth in Japan as well as Europe and America, the gap doesnt seemed to have closed much at all...

"I mean, we've got 31 million [units sold] worldwide right now - they've got 39 million [units sold]. I don't even need to go out 10 years," he quipped.

Regarding catching up

"I'm not going to make any predictions for your interview today other than we'll pass them, but you look at where we are today and where they are today, and they had an opportunity to sprint as far ahead of us as possible when they had the head start.

"Well, we're breathing down their necks and they can see us in the rear-view mirror and it's not going to take too long to pass them."

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The last time I heard, the gap was around 6 - 7 million.

The 360 has actually widened the gap since then? :shock:

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Clearly he has never heard of VGchartz.........lol

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#4 sikanderahmed
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wow 8 million. thats a huge difference

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#5 GulliversTravel
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Clearly he has never heard of VGchartz.........lol

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Knowing the VGChartz community, they are probably saying hes wrong:P
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#6 88mphSlayer
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if that's true then the gap has actually widened since last year, as i recall it got down to something like 5-6 million last year, 8 million was about where we were in 2008

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The last time I heard, the gap was around 6 - 7 million.

The 360 has actually widened the gap since then? :shock:

The_Game21x

I don't know how the gap has widen considering there was no region where the Xbox360 pulled a consideable lead for like the last 5 months...

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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

The last time I heard, the gap was around 6 - 7 million.

The 360 has actually widened the gap since then? :shock:

not surprising, the 360 is still cheaper and better for gaming
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#9 Chrome-
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Low stock amounts? give me a break.
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#10 Ontain
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hasn't it been about that for years now?
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#11 SilentlyMad
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WoW gap is bigger then I thought. Ya Sony is never catching up at this rate......I mean seriously Never
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Umm the gap was 8 million before the PS3 price cut and size reduction, so you're telling me that 360 managed to sell just as much as PS3 WW in the past 3 months? Something about 360's sales just doesn't add up, the past 3 months it was clear to everyone that PS3 is kicking 360's arse worldwide and yet the gap is still 8 million.
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Umm the gap was 8 million before the PS3 price cut and size reduction, so you're telling me that 360 managed to sell just as much as PS3 WW in the past 3 months? Something about 360's sales just doesn't add up, the past 3 months it was clear to everyone that PS3 is kicking 360's arse worldwide and yet the gap is still 8 million. Swift_Boss_A
It's not clear to me... My younger sister just bought a 360. PS3 wasn't even considered.
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

The last time I heard, the gap was around 6 - 7 million.

The 360 has actually widened the gap since then? :shock:

Yeh, and i love your sig, did you make it?
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Umm the gap was 8 million before the PS3 price cut and size reduction, so you're telling me that 360 managed to sell just as much as PS3 WW in the past 3 months? Something about 360's sales just doesn't add up, the past 3 months it was clear to everyone that PS3 is kicking 360's arse worldwide and yet the gap is still 8 million. Swift_Boss_A
Maybe because it's cheaper?
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Umm the gap was 8 million before the PS3 price cut and size reduction, so you're telling me that 360 managed to sell just as much as PS3 WW in the past 3 months? Something about 360's sales just doesn't add up, the past 3 months it was clear to everyone that PS3 is kicking 360's arse worldwide and yet the gap is still 8 million. Swift_Boss_A

As I said before someone isn't giving the real numbers lol.

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#17 Vadamee
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Woa! So the PS3 only closed the gap by 2 million consoles in FOUR YEARS. Considering 2009 and 2008 were bigger for PS3 than for Xbox 360 and it still manage to make no significant gains, 2010 is looking to be good year for MSFT since there is Natal and Halo Reach and a rumored price drop... I doubt the PS3 will ever surpass the 360 before this generation is up.
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Umm the gap was 8 million before the PS3 price cut and size reduction, so you're telling me that 360 managed to sell just as much as PS3 WW in the past 3 months? Something about 360's sales just doesn't add up, the past 3 months it was clear to everyone that PS3 is kicking 360's arse worldwide and yet the gap is still 8 million. Swift_Boss_A
Well its either that Dille is using sell-through numbers or they overstuffed the channel when they released the Slim. AFAIK, PS3 production was hugely ramped up before the Slim.
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The last time I heard, the gap was around 6 - 7 million.

The 360 has actually widened the gap since then? :shock:

The_Game21x

Either that, or cows should stop using VGchartz as a "reliable" source

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Going at this rate it won't outsell 360 with God of War III , Gran Turismo 5 being the only real system sellers. Don't think there are many more game that can push consoles on PS3 other than those two and Agent, Versus XIII, Persona 5, Syphon Filter. :|
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As a cow I am dissapointed (if all this is true). I don't know what could be a game changer at this point with Arc and Natal possibly neutralizing each other. The only way the PS3 could pass the 360 is if MS jumps earlier in the next generation and the PS3 sells for two or three more years.
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#22 Zaibach
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that makes next to sense, the gap was closed with price cut was it not?

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Umm the gap was 8 million before the PS3 price cut and size reduction, so you're telling me that 360 managed to sell just as much as PS3 WW in the past 3 months? Something about 360's sales just doesn't add up, the past 3 months it was clear to everyone that PS3 is kicking 360's arse worldwide and yet the gap is still 8 million. Swift_Boss_A

you have to account for year-round sales and even in the U.S. where the PS3 eventually outsold the 360 for 2 or 3 months in the fall it didn't necessarily kill 360 sales, they were almost neck and neck

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#24 Kashiwaba
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that makes next to sense, the gap was closed with price cut was it not?

Zaibach

It wasnt closed it just made it a little bit smaller but still MS numbers are a little bit fishy.

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"we're breathing down their necks and they can see us in the rear-view mirror and it's not going to take too long to pass them" someone should tell this guy to lay off the sauce,lol
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Going at this rate it won't outsell 360 with God of War III , Gran Turismo 5 being the only real system sellers. Don't think there are many more game that can push consoles on PS3 other than those two and Agent, Versus XIII, Persona 5, Syphon Filter. :|Adrian_Cloud
Do sales really matter that much? imo the PS3 has some incredible games you just can't miss, and a lot of big games coming, so in the end sales don't matter that much, imo anyway.
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]Going at this rate it won't outsell 360 with God of War III , Gran Turismo 5 being the only real system sellers. Don't think there are many more game that can push consoles on PS3 other than those two and Agent, Versus XIII, Persona 5, Syphon Filter. :|

By next year, the PS3 will be at a stage where no game can really boost hardware sales as itll bemore than four years old. Still, the PS3 isnt selling the volumes wed expect. In NA, its neck and neck despite the PS3 having so much more value at the same price. As for Europe, theyve always preferred the PS3 simply out of ignorance, heck it outsold the 360 in 2007 despite missing the first few months even though 360 had Gears of War AND Halo.
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i thought PS3 was winning all the world wide sales

we know it is in japan

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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]Going at this rate it won't outsell 360 with God of War III , Gran Turismo 5 being the only real system sellers. Don't think there are many more game that can push consoles on PS3 other than those two and Agent, Versus XIII, Persona 5, Syphon Filter. :|racing1750
Do sales really matter that much? imo the PS3 has some incredible games you just can't miss, and a lot of big games coming, so in the end sales don't matter that much, imo anyway.

The PS3 userbase is far too big to ignore, so if it catches up even by the end of this year, its hardly going to make a difference. Even with PS3 development being way easier than it was in 07 and 08 and multiplat sales no longer having such a gulf between them, the 360 is still the lead platform. If developers switch to the PS3 for lead development, the 360 hardly suffers as weve seen already. One thing we also forget is that much of the PS3s userbase comes from Japan, which is a non-factor for Western developers.
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I didn't expect that. At this rate, the PS3 won't catch the 360 anytime soon.
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#31 Zaibach
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someone somewhere has been fibbing

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Honestly i thought the gap was shorter! :|

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I didn't expect that. At this rate, the PS3 won't catch the 360 anytime soon.IronBass
Sure looks like it.
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I'm sure that, from all the people that is monitoring MS' moves, we, SW, are the ones that are gonna find it out. :roll:

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#35 Zaibach
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

someone somewhere has been fibbing

IronBass

And I'm sure that, from all the people that is monitoring MS' moves, we, SW, are the ones that are gonna find it out. :roll:

when did I accuse MS of anything?:?

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It's going to take a miracle to close that gap any time soon.

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#37 delta3074
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]

someone somewhere has been fibbing

Zaibach

And I'm sure that, from all the people that is monitoring MS' moves, we, SW, are the ones that are gonna find it out. :roll:

when did I accuse MS of anything?:?

i don't think ironbass comment was aimed at you personally, i think it was aimed at the general attitude towards MS on these boards,lol
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#38 RAGINGxPONY
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I heard MS numbers are shipped, not sold. Don't know if that makes any difference or not.

But no one is lying here, the reason why you guys are so shocked is because your basing it off estimations like VGchartz and NPD. The only people that know how much the system sold are the companies themselves. So to say they are lying, when your basing it off estimations is ridculous.

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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]

And I'm sure that, from all the people that is monitoring MS' moves, we, SW, are the ones that are gonna find it out. :roll:IronBass
when did I accuse MS of anything?:?

i don't think ironbass comment was aimed at you personally, i think it was aimed at the general attitude towards MS on these boards,lol

Exactly, I pressed "quick quote" instead of "quick reply". Sorry Zaibach :P
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Going at this rate it won't outsell 360 with God of War III , Gran Turismo 5 being the only real system sellers. Don't think there are many more game that can push consoles on PS3 other than those two and Agent, Versus XIII, Persona 5, Syphon Filter. :|Adrian_Cloud
You say PS3 games like the 360 does not have games like Halo Reach one of the most well known brand names ever in games this year plus games like Fable 3, Splinter Cell, Gears of War 3 (maybe) and all the others.

This is a great year game wise for the 360.

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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]Going at this rate it won't outsell 360 with God of War III , Gran Turismo 5 being the only real system sellers. Don't think there are many more game that can push consoles on PS3 other than those two and Agent, Versus XIII, Persona 5, Syphon Filter. :|racing1750
Do sales really matter that much? imo the PS3 has some incredible games you just can't miss, and a lot of big games coming, so in the end sales don't matter that much, imo anyway.

True enough, but for the sake of an argument PS3 could possibly pull this off with a significant game line-up that can appeal to the niche market,hardcore gamers, and the masses. Which is basically was my point, if Agent is as big as GTAIII for Sony well we all know how well that did. Persona 5 appeals to a niche rpg market and could be a break through in WW with proper marketing. Versus XIII, well its Final Fantasy Gran Turismo 5 and Syphon Filter appeal to the old school Sony gamers.

Each of these titles are new to this generation, which is why i think they will have a significant impact in pushing consoles. Games like Uncharted 2, Resistance 2 didn't really do too much to push consoles. But we all saw how well MGS4(94% increase NDP) and FFXIII(237,000 consoles sold) managed to push consoles.

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[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

The last time I heard, the gap was around 6 - 7 million.

The 360 has actually widened the gap since then? :shock:

Yeh, and i love your sig, did you make it?

Yeah, I made it. Thanks for the compliment! :D
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

The last time I heard, the gap was around 6 - 7 million.

The 360 has actually widened the gap since then? :shock:

Yeh, and i love your sig, did you make it?

Yeah, I made it. Thanks for the compliment! :D

Nice, it makes me want to play Forza 3 for some reason :P
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Going at this rate it won't outsell 360 with God of War III , Gran Turismo 5 being the only real system sellers. Don't think there are many more game that can push consoles on PS3 other than those two and Agent, Versus XIII, Persona 5, Syphon Filter. :|Adrian_Cloud

except that God of War isnt a system seller...

something that sells well =/= system seller

also, Agent, syphon filter, and persona 5 will not push any extra systems, at least in the U.S.

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"Well, we're breathing down their necks and they can see us in the rear-view mirror and it's not going to take too long to pass them."

GulliversTravel
When I saw this I couldn't help but laugh out loud. Using a car analogy?... Priceless. :lol:
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Now do you see why people tell you not to use VGChartz cows? Why when VGC apologists say "We don't have a better source!", we counter with "Its better to use no source than a wrong one?"
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="GulliversTravel"]

"Well, we're breathing down their necks and they can see us in the rear-view mirror and it's not going to take too long to pass them."

When I saw this I couldn't help but laugh out loud. Using a car analogy?... Priceless. :lol:

Oh noes Sony is a serial killer in the backseat of MS's car! :o
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But we all saw how well MGS4(94% increase NDP) and FFXIII(237,000 consoles sold) managed to push consoles.

Adrian_Cloud

But the 360 also outsold the PS3 for 2008. It's not like MGS4 made a huge difference.

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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="GulliversTravel"]

"Well, we're breathing down their necks and they can see us in the rear-view mirror and it's not going to take too long to pass them."

blue_hazy_basic
When I saw this I couldn't help but laugh out loud. Using a car analogy?... Priceless. :lol:

Oh noes Sony is a serial killer in the backseat of MS's car! :o

Nah sonys the tied up victim on the back seat desperately trying to cut through the rope,not to worry though microsoft will turn around and smash them in the face with the spade any time now
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#50 i_am_interested
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sony passed 27 million at the end of sep 09

microsoft passed 31 at the end of august 09 (and over 30 around may 09)

so microsoft sold 8 mill units in 4 months (as of CES 2010) and sony sold 4 million in 4 months (as of Dilles interview)?

interesting