Sony PSN isn't profitable. A sign that Sony will charge next gen?

They will have to make some improvements before they can think about charging for it, if they did set up a decent infrastructure and only charged per console access I think that would be perfectly acceptable though. If they follow Microsofts example I can't wait to hear the justifications on here :D.

They shouldn't, they should have a good launch line-up, no pay to play online, price it just lower than microsofts next console, and they'll be fine. Most people this gen will realise their mistake of paying for online and get a ps3

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They shouldn't, they should have a good launch line-up, no pay to play online, price it just lower than microsofts next console, and they'll be fine. Most people this gen will realise their mistake of paying for online and get a ps3

cainetao11

I wonder how PS3 fans would react to Sony charging for online play.Stevo_the_gamer

With the longer downloads, installs, mandatory patches, the one thing going for PSN is that it offers online gaming free. If they take that away then it'll have no redeeming features against xlive. themyth01

I wonder how PS3 fans would react to Sony charging for online play.Stevo_the_gamer

id still be a fan. its not like i dont have any money :P

hmm, well im not gonna worry about this till NEXT GEN

ill keep riding the free online train this gen!

PSN being free is a huge selling point for Sony. I doubt they would charge for a service that is nearly mandatory to play online

sony would be stupid NOT to charge to play online next gen. its not like anyone would jump ship, since u know xbl will also cost $. broken_ops

Sony is out to make money, not friends. I will be more surprised if they didn't charge next gen.Franky-the-bat

Wouldnt surprise me considering how sucessful live has been this gen.

And now we know why Microsoft charges for online. Because the object is to make money not to lose money. Apparently Sony forgot that part when it came to the release of the PS3.

But the reality of the situation was that in its infancy there would have been no way for the fledgling PSN to charge its fanbase. Everyone would have just gone to XBL. So Sony had to suck it up and provide it for free to build up a fanbase. Much like Microsoft had to swallow the entire Xbox knowing that it wouldn't make a dime just to build up a fanbase.

You have to spend money to make money. No different then over paying a high priced Free Agent when you're a crappy team looking to get better.

I guess Sony will keep the free online play since it was a good argument for the system, but I guess they will have PSN+ from the beginning and maybe other services that cost something

I guess Sony will keep the free online play since it was a good argument for the system, but I guess they will have PSN+ from the beginning and maybe other services that cost something

ArchoNils2

i think that would be the safest bet. most important thing would be keeping the online gaming free.

Why are people supporting Microsoft's stance on paying to play online?..By supporting it and consistently renewing your subscription you're essentially telling Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo that it works. Live is not leaps and bounds ahead of Steam and PSN, if and when Sony decides to add cross-party chat to PSN what will be Live's edge? Live felt more like a headset rental fee seeing as how games still had lag even though there was a strong connection and I still had access to DLC, Games on Demand and XBLA games with a Silver account.

I'd rather just buy a gaming PC if Sony and Microsoft both feel the need to pay-to-play.

Why are people supporting Microsoft's stance on paying to play online?..By supporting it and consistently renewing your subscription you're essentially telling Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo that it works. Live is not leaps and bounds ahead of Steam and PSN, if and when Sony decides to add cross-party chat to PSN what will be Live's edge? Live felt more like a headset rental fee seeing as how games still had lag even though there was a strong connection and I still had access to DLC, Games on Demand and XBLA games with a Silver account.

I'd rather just buy a gaming PC if Sony and Microsoft both feel the need to pay-to-play.

KevinPlanet

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/12/24/sonys-hirai-playstation-network-not-yet-profitable/

This is interesting. I'm pretty confident Sony will go the Xbox Live route next gen.

jimmypsn

also a glaring sign that both the PS3 and PSN were colossal failures

If sony starts charging for psn then I'm sticking to pc gaming.

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Why are people supporting Microsoft's stance on paying to play online?..By supporting it and consistently renewing your subscription you're essentially telling Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo that it works. Live is not leaps and bounds ahead of Steam and PSN, if and when Sony decides to add cross-party chat to PSN what will be Live's edge? Live felt more like a headset rental fee seeing as how games still had lag even though there was a strong connection and I still had access to DLC, Games on Demand and XBLA games with a Silver account.

I'd rather just buy a gaming PC if Sony and Microsoft both feel the need to pay-to-play.

Zaibach

Do not support pay-to-play

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From your own link. "However, he expects the PSN to start making money in the following fiscal year."

I doubt them charging next gen anyhow.

AncientDozer

I believe they also said they expect the PS3 to become profitable in 2010, and then whadayaknow, it ends up happening in 2010.

If you don't want to beleive them, that's cool with me, we can just wait and see if they were lying or not.

i think they will no waythey dont want all that xbl money

Lems instead of wishing M$ doesn't charge for Live anymore they are wishing for Sony charging for PSN :lol:Giancar

Look on the bright side. They at least want Sony to be financially profitable :lol:

Lems instead of wishing M$ doesn't charge for Live anymore they are wishing for Sony charging for PSN :lol:Giancar

So you rather MS not charge for Live and lose money? I'm glad you don't run a business.

[QUOTE="Giancar"]Lems instead of wishing M$ doesn't charge for Live anymore they are wishing for Sony charging for PSN :lol:The__Havoc

Look on the bright side. They at least want Sony to be financially profitable :lol:

[QUOTE="Giancar"]Lems instead of wishing M$ doesn't charge for Live anymore they are wishing for Sony charging for PSN :lol:jimmypsn

So you rather MS not charge for Live and lose money? I'm glad you don't run a business.

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[QUOTE="Giancar"]Lems instead of wishing M$ doesn't charge for Live anymore they are wishing for Sony charging for PSN :lol:Giancar

So you rather MS not charge for Live and lose money? I'm glad you don't run a business.

PC has offered a unified online service for decades? News to me.

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[QUOTE="Giancar"]Lems instead of wishing M$ doesn't charge for Live anymore they are wishing for Sony charging for PSN :lol:Giancar

Look on the bright side. They at least want Sony to be financially profitable :lol:

We wouldn't want another Sega fall out now would we :o

Its common sense man. If something costs money to provide you charge. But then again I'm sure you work for FREE. Does this mean I take no issue paying to play online? No. I can play for free else where. But I'm not going to be stupid and wonder why they charge a fee for a service that costs money. I mean we all know PSN is making so much money right? Oh wait....

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Look on the bright side. They at least want Sony to be financially profitable :lol:

The__Havoc

We wouldn't want another Sega fall out now would we :o

no sony will never ever charge for psn. they care for their consumers too much more than making money and will always keep psn free imho

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So you rather MS not charge for Live and lose money? I'm glad you don't run a business.

jimmypsn

PC has offered a unified online service for decades? News to me.

Well good they shouldn't be making money out of the ability to play online games anyway.

if I wanted to talk about business, I would go either to: 1) yahoo finance boards 2) Gaf yeah wish for consoles to ask you for money, for something PC has done FREE for DECADES :shock:_SWAG_

PC has offered a unified online service for decades? News to me.

I have no idea what you just said there, I think you missed a few words or something. Bu its funny you say its our money yet you like others consistently tell us how we are wrong for paying...

WilliamRLBaker

Hirai said PSN will remain free because they can become profitable especially with PSN Plus and Advertising with Home, The Tester etc.

EDIT - Hirai said PSN made 36 billion yen (~430 million USD) in 2010. (at least up until his interview)

Doubt it. They will do the exact same thing they are doing now, only offering the Plus service from the start.

Randoggy

no sony will never ever charge for psn. they care for their consumers too much more than making money and will always keep psn free imho

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no sony will never ever charge for psn. they care for their consumers too much more than making money and will always keep psn free imho

Dibdibdobdobo

True True. So many people think Sony or MS is their friend. They're not.

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no sony will never ever charge for psn. they care for their consumers too much more than making money and will always keep psn free imho

True True. So many people think Sony or MS is their friend. They're not.

[QUOTE="Franky-the-bat"]Sony is out to make money, not friends. I will be more surprised if they didn't charge next gen.Zaibach

I really don't mind paying a bit so that sony doesn't lose off their service. I don't even mind a crap load of advertisements for psn free and nothing for psn plus.