Sony: "Our 1st party is as large as Microsoft's and Nintendo's"

As large as Microsoft & Nintendo combined

I always knew they had a large 1st party family, but dang. You know, every AAA game on GS (save for MGS4) is a 1st party title. And they have potentially more in the works. I think Nintendo and Sony are tied for quality studios. Sony is just doing more for the core gamer this gen. They always had good devs, but they entered this gen knowing they had to carry the PS3 on their own back.

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"Our development studios - the Worldwide Studios team - is as large as Microsoft and Nintendo's combined," he said, talking at GDC.

"We have a tremendously creative group, and a line-up for the next few years that will bring a lot of new IP to the market, but will also being a lot of [tried and tested] franchises and new iterations to the PS3 in particular, but also PSP," the exec added."

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This is the full list of studios owned by Sony and studios that have a unique '2nd party' relationship with them:

Sony Computer Entertainment Worldwide Studios (SCE WWS)

Internally Owned Studios

Japan

Japan Studio - Ape Escape, Siren, LocoRoco, Patapon
Team ICO - Shadow of the Colossus, ICO
Clap Hanz - Everybody's Golf, Everybody's Tennis
Polyphony Digital - Gran Turismo

North America

Naughty Dog - Crash Bandicoot, Jak & Daxter, Uncharted: Drakes Fortune
Santa Monica Studio - God of War
San Diego Studio - NBA, MLB: The Show
Sony Bend - Syphon Filter
Sony Online Entertainment LLC. - EverQuest
Incognito Entertainment - Warhawk, Twisted Metal
Zipper Interactive - SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs

Europe

London Studio - SingStar, Eyetoy, PlayStation Home
Studio Cambridge - MediEvil, PlayTV
Studio Liverpool - Wipeout, F1
Guerrilla Games - Killzone
Evolution Studios - MotorStorm, World Rally Championship
Bigbig Studios - Pursuit Force, MotorStorm: Arctic Edge

Sony Computer Entertainment Worldwide Studios (SCE WWS)

Third Party Studio Partners

Japan

Level-5 - White Knight Chronicles, Rogue Galaxy, Dark Cloud
Game Republic - Folklore, Genji
Q-Games - PixelJunk
Media.Vision - Wild Arms
Pyramid - Patapon
From Software - Demon's Souls

North America

Insomniac Games - Resistance, Ratchet & Clank
Sucker Punch Productions - InFamous, Sly Cooper
ThatGameCompany - Flow, Flower
Ready at Dawn Studios - God of War: Chains of Olympus, Daxter
High Impact Games - Ratchet & Clank: Size Matters, Secret Agent Clank
Eat Sleep Play - Twisted Metal: Head On
Slant Six Games

Europe

Relentless Software - Buzz!
Media Molecule - LittleBigPlanet
Ninja Theory - Heavenly Sword

What do yall think?

EDIT: Thanks Storm_Marine and Couth_

Yes it is...Sony wins a cookie :D

It is actually and is getting stronger but it was a long time coming.

SONY : "We are BIGGER than YOU, Nintendo and Microsoft!"

NINTENDO : "Oh Sony...It's not the size that matters(1st party), it's the motion of the Blue Ocean (market)."

MICROSOFT : "We got Money!"

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Nintendo was KING of the 1st party Developers...but then Nintendo started Channelling their Vast Superpower into the NonGamer/Casual Gamer market.

I think right now, Nintendo funnels 80% of their resources to Blue Ocean, and 20% to the Core Gamers (Last Year showed us that.)

I would agree that SO FAR This Console gaming Generation, Sony has the best 1st party between the big three consoles.

If Nintendo would stop using their almighty power for games like Personal Trainer, Wii Fit, Wii Music, Wii Resort, Wii Play, Nintendo could blow Sony away, but it's a business. Why should Nintendo support Hardcore Nintendo Loyalists when that MARKET has proven to be much smaller ?(Evidenced by the N64/Gamecube Sales)

We all know that M$ isn't too worried about having a big or great 1st Party though, While Sony has been strengthening their 1st party, M$ has been doing the exact opposite, they have been shutting down their 1st parties and focusing on getting great multiplats on the system...not to mention Timed Exclusives/Exclusive DLC.

Timed Exclusives = Rockband 2 Last Year /Tales of Vesperia / Ninja Gaiden 2

Exclusive DLC = Fallout 3/GTA 4, etc.

The new XBOX360 Tactic has been WAY more effective instead of pumping millions into 1st party devs for games like Too Human, Banjo, Viva, etc. They are great games (and I own all of those lol ) BUT these games were supposed to sell machines.

Can Sony's Strong First party take them out of last place? That's the question.
This Console War is the CLOSEST War we have ever been graced with as gamers.

Nintendo was the best....but sadly not anymore.

But the thing is, they still can be the best if they wanted to. They just don't care anymore. All they care about is the casual market.

sony needs to stop their bragging and boasting its making me sick.

Sony braging they havent said much lately microsoft needs to shut up they have a comment on evey little thing.

sony needs to stop their bragging and boasting its making me sick.

Rza_rectah

It's really making you sick?

They are just stressing the PS3's strength, nothing wrong with that. All companies talk about what they do right, it shouldn't bother you.

IN FACT, it should make you happy as a GAMER.

MORE GREAT GAMES = GREAT FOR GAMERS.

Also, does M$'$ Greenburg bother you? That guy says A Lot of stuff

But honestly, Sony has nothing really to brag about. None of their games really outsold some of the other best selling titles like GTAIV, Call of Duty Modern Warfare and World at War, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Mario Kart Wii, Wii-Play, Wii-Fit, Gears of War, and of course, Halo 3. Metal Gear Solid 4 isn't a first-party Sony game so that really doesn't count.

The best selling PS3 game so far has been Motorstorm, which is only over 3 million. But compare that to Halo 3, GTAIV, or even Super Mario Galaxy which sold over 7 million, it's nothing. And yeah, we don't know what Killzone 2's numbers are, but if there is any indication on its first week sales not even breaking 300,000 in NA whereas Halo 3 sold over 3 million in its first week, I don't think KZ2 will break records at all. I think IF Killzone 2 did break records, we'd already have heard it from Sony's press by now.

So sure, Sony can brag that they have a bigger first party team and make more games for core fans, but when you think about it, none of their games sold as much as the titles I mentioned.

I'm not discrediting Sony's first-party games. They're good games. But it's so irksome when Sony brags like this especially when they don't have the numbers to back it up. It's just as arrogant and shows they're poor sport attitude like how they said the DSi is for kids and the PSP reaches a broader audience.

Sony has nothing to brag about..."Big Sales Post" ASK_Story

Yeah, Sony shouldn't talk about Their great games, they aren't selling.Sony should just give up.

Sales are for Business' to worry aboutl, but I can't play SALES, I want games for all the systems, and SONY is one of the companies I want games from.

I don't care if Madworld sells like crap, I'm happy it came out!It's about fun games, not Sales.

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"]

sony needs to stop their bragging and boasting its making me sick.

It's really making you sick?

They are just stressing the PS3's strength, nothing wrong with that. All companies talk about what they do right, it shouldn't bother you.

IN FACT, it should make you happy as a GAMER.

MORE GREAT GAMES = GREAT FOR GAMERS.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"]

sony needs to stop their bragging and boasting its making me sick.

Rza_rectah

It's really making you sick?

They are just stressing the PS3's strength, nothing wrong with that. All companies talk about what they do right, it shouldn't bother you.

IN FACT, it should make you happy as a GAMER.

MORE GREAT GAMES = GREAT FOR GAMERS.

Oh, the DSi statement. Yeah, I don't like badmouthing, but I do like positive stuff too. :)

Nintendo's still is better.IronBass

Yeah, but not BIGGER.

Nintendo : "It's not the size that matters(1st parties), it's the motion of the Blue Ocean (market).

C'mon, that's a good one. :)

Nintendo's still is better.IronBass

[QUOTE="IronBass"]Nintendo's still is better.ASK_Story

Yeah, but this is a business, so they made the right business move.

Nintendo's still is better.IronBass

Niny is trying to get paid. Don't blame em though. Once you get a wiff of that kind of money, you hunt it down like a hound.

Nintendo's still is better.IronBass

Nintendo can reach a much higher quality level if they want to but they haven't done that in a long time now.

Their last AA Wii game is almost a year old now and the DS part of Nintendo have turned into SquareEnix with either decade old ports (Fire Emblem) two games slapped together (Pokemon Platinum) or year old DS games recently translated (Rhythm Heaven).

[QUOTE="IronBass"]Nintendo's still is better.JLF1

Nintendo can reach a much higher quality level if they want to but they haven't done that in a long time now.

Their last AA Wii game is almost a year old now and the DS part of Nintendo have turned into SquareEnix with either decade old ports (Fire Emblem) two games slapped together (Pokemon Platinum) or year old DS games recently translated (Rhythm Heaven).

Thankfully we can still rely on wonderful Mario and Zelda games. But in the end it isn't much.

Well there first party has nothing on Nintendo's but they have a solid 2nd party list that is ahead of the reast. We all know M$ has nothing for first party and little for 2nd party to even think about.wooooode

Actually, other than a few studios, almost all of Sony's operation is all Sony.

Naughty Dog = Sony. Guerrilla Games = Sony. SCE = Sony. Team Ico = Sony, Polyphony, etc.

That's why Sony made this statement, to get rid of the perception that they are still a huge 2nd party company.

Nintendo CAN. The just DON'T.

Thankfully we can still rely on wonderful Mario and Zelda games. But in the end it isn't much.

Episode_Eve

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

Nintendo CAN. The just DON'T.

Thankfully we can still rely on wonderful Mario and Zelda games. But in the end it isn't much.

JLF1

Lol, so true. I do hope the next Zelda on Wii is "toon-shaded".

Episode_Eve

You know what pisses me off? Nintendo porting Pikmin instead of making Pikmin Thwii :x :lol: :cry:.Episode_Eve

It pisses you off?

Dude, you need to take a chill pill!

Why So SerWiious?:lol:

You know what pisses me off? Nintendo porting Pikmin instead of making Pikmin Thwii :x :lol: :cry:.Episode_Eve

Whenever there's a slow week on SW, I can always count on Sony to say something interesting.no_handlebars

Not like they're wrong this time though. Nintendo's first party, or lack there of, hasn't been nearly as stellar as with previous consoles.

[QUOTE="no_handlebars"]Whenever there's a slow week on SW, I can always count on Sony to say something interesting.Lionheart08

Not like they're wrong this time though. Nintendo's first party, or lack there of, hasn't been nearly as stellar as with previous consoles.

Out of curiosity, how much bigger is Sony compared to Nintendo and MS? Like how many more studios does it have?

And lol, EA got a vote.

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="no_handlebars"]Whenever there's a slow week on SW, I can always count on Sony to say something interesting.carljohnson3456

Not like they're wrong this time though. Nintendo's first party, or lack there of, hasn't been nearly as stellar as with previous consoles.

I love it when people call Wii Fit crap. I usually entertain myself with these comments but its getting old by now.

Carry on...

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Sony said what now? LOL

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Not like they're wrong this time though. Nintendo's first party, or lack there of, hasn't been nearly as stellar as with previous consoles.

Grinning_Demon

I love it when people call Wii Fit crap. I usually entertain myself with these comments but its getting old by now.

Carry on...

edit:

Sony said what now? LOL

Yeah, Wii Fit and Wii Music and all that other crap is crappy crap, but it's a beaten horse though.I can see the entertainment value, crappy games selling to nongamers is funny, when you think about it!

Oh, and to answer your edit, Sony said their 1st party is as large as M$ and Nintendo combined, since you missed it.

According to one survey, most gamers only used Wii Fit less than 5 times after purchase!

*Vote SolidTy for most helpful poster!* :D

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Not like they're wrong this time though. Nintendo's first party, or lack there of, hasn't been nearly as stellar as with previous consoles.

Grinning_Demon

I love it when people call Wii Fit crap. I usually entertain myself with these comments but its getting old by now.

Carry on...

edit:

Sony said what now? LOL

Yeah, Wii Fit and Wii Music and all that other crap is crappy crap, but it's a beaten horse though. I can see the entertainment value, crappy games selling to nongamers is funny, when you think about it! SolidTy

I almost didnt reply, but that is SOO funny i had to say something to express my gratitude.

Thank you for blessing us with your unmatched comedic skills *hearts*

Oh, and to answer your edit, Sony said their 1st party is as large as M$ and Nintendo combined, since you missed it. SolidTy

Oh, i see where the comedy comes from now. The master has taught you well ;)

I dont mean to bash it, it's probably decent for at least a little while anyway... it just doesnt appeal to me. It just angers me to see Nintendo focus so much on that kinda of stuff when they are capable of way better games. carljohnson3456

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]Yeah, Wii Fit and Wii Music and all that other crap is crappy crap, but it's a beaten horse though.I can see the entertainment value, crappy games selling to nongamers is funny, when you think about it!Grinning_Demon

I almost didnt reply, but that is SOO funny i had to say something to express my gratitude.

Thank you for blessing us with your unmatched comedic skills *hearts*

Oh, and to answer your edit, Sony said their 1st party is as large as M$ and Nintendo combined, since you missed it. SolidTy

Oh, i see where the comedy comes from now. The master has taught you well ;)

D'oh!:oops:

Ywah, well, uh, yeah, I uh...that's Sony for ya, the Unintentional Comedy Master of Ceremonies! :lol:

I just wonder what did he meant with the word "large". Number of people? Impossible. Number of games? Hardly. Quality titles? Arguable. Revenue? I would not be surprised if EAD alone beats half of the big 8's combined.IronBass

Possibly more companies?

Oh well. It doesn't really matter to me whether Sony has a larger first-party or not.

The new XBOX360 Tactic has been WAY more effective instead of pumping millions into 1st party devs for games like Too Human, Banjo, Viva, etc. They are great games (and I own all of those lol ) BUT these games were supposed to sell machines.SolidTy