Sony; "We don't buy exclusivity."

SCEA president Jack Tretton says "We have a very different approach to exclusives than some of our competitors. We don't buy exclusivity. We don't fund development. We don't, for lack of a better term, bribe somebody to only do a game on our platform. We earn it."

Is this naive or admirable?

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Ignorant big tiime.

They got lucky last gen.

SCEA president Jack Tretton says "We have a very different approach to exclusives than some of our competitors. We don't buy exclusivity. We don't fund development. We don't, for lack of a better term, bribe somebody to only do a game on our platform. We earn it."

Is this naive or admirable?

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cakeorrdeath

Sorry, but this is pretty old...in SW terms, that is. ;)

Anyways, yes, this is further proof that Tretton needs to be sacked. Now. He's becoming a joke.

Is this naive or admirable?

cakeorrdeath

Well that depends on the type of fanboy you ask.

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

SCEA president Jack Tretton says "We have a very different approach to exclusives than some of our competitors. We don't buy exclusivity. We don't fund development. We don't, for lack of a better term, bribe somebody to only do a game on our platform. We earn it."

Is this naive or admirable?

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peacebringer

Ah, so the PS3 is pretty much screwed then, because it's in last place right now, right?

1st party = Nintendo
3rd party = Microsoft

where does sony fit in this? multiplats? 2nd party?

"we don't buy exclusives, we lose exclusives" :lol:gamergeekgeek

ownage approved

Mouth peices can be so ignorant.Vandalvideo

The president of SCEA is a mouth piece?:|

Let me get out my crystal ball and pre determine most of the posts in this thread.

"Well they should"

"They should but cant afford it."

"They lose exclusives"

"Bu Bu Bu (insert generic fanboy remark) "

In reality there are only a handfull of 3rd party games that are big time exclusives anymore. If you want an exclusive you better publish it or make it yourself. That is one thing that Sony does just as well as Nintendo and some say better. They have a s load of studios under the Sony umbrella and they crank out some pretty decent games. Other than MGS, FF, GTA most of the big games last gen on the PS2 were made by Sony or 2nd Party Sony studios. GT, GoW, SoTC, Jak, R&C etc...MS is far behind Sony and Nintendo in this regard. They have Halo and Forza. Thats about it. Even GeoW is only exclusive for 2 games.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Mouth peices can be so ignorant.cakeorrdeath

The president of SCEA is a mouth piece?:|

SCEA president Jack Tretton says "We have a very different approach to exclusives than some of our competitors. We don't buy exclusivity. We don't fund development. We don't, for lack of a better term, bribe somebody to only do a game on our platform. We earn it."

Is this naive or admirable?

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cakeorrdeath

Companies are not about morals and ethics. They are about making money. Make your customers happy: get your money. No matter what it takes, as long as they please the customers they will make the money, and they will succeed.

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

SCEA president Jack Tretton says "We have a very different approach to exclusives than some of our competitors. We don't buy exclusivity. We don't fund development. We don't, for lack of a better term, bribe somebody to only do a game on our platform. We earn it."

Is this naive or admirable?

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peacebringer

Let me get out my crystal ball and pre determine most of the posts in this thread.

"Well they should"

"They should but cant afford it."

"They lose exclusives"

"Bu Bu Bu (insert generic fanboy remark) "

In reality there are only a handfull of 3rd party games that are big time exclusives anymore. If you want an exclusive you better publish it or make it yourself. That is one thing that Sony does just as well as Nintendo and some say better. They have a s load of studios under the Sony umbrella and they crank out some pretty decent games. Other than MGS, FF, GTA most of the big games last gen on the PS2 were made by Sony or 2nd Party Sony studios. GT, GoW, SoTC, Jak, R&C etc...MS is far behind Sony and Nintendo in this regard. They have Halo and Forza. Thats about it. Even GeoW is only exclusive for 2 games.

iwo4life

SCEA president Jack Tretton says "We have a very different approach to exclusives than some of our competitors. We don't buy exclusivity. We don't fund development. We don't, for lack of a better term, bribe somebody to only do a game on our platform. We earn it."

Is this naive or admirable?

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cakeorrdeath

Both !

The man is admirable naive , a fool and proud of it .

1st party = Nintendo
3rd party = Microsoft

where does sony fit in this? multiplats? 2nd party?

harry2k5

[QUOTE="harry2k5"]

1st party = Nintendo
3rd party = Microsoft

where does sony fit in this? multiplats? 2nd party?

SergeantSnitch

[QUOTE="iwo4life"]

Let me get out my crystal ball and pre determine most of the posts in this thread.

"Well they should"

"They should but cant afford it."

"They lose exclusives"

"Bu Bu Bu (insert generic fanboy remark) "

In reality there are only a handfull of 3rd party games that are big time exclusives anymore. If you want an exclusive you better publish it or make it yourself. That is one thing that Sony does just as well as Nintendo and some say better. They have a s load of studios under the Sony umbrella and they crank out some pretty decent games. Other than MGS, FF, GTA most of the big games last gen on the PS2 were made by Sony or 2nd Party Sony studios. GT, GoW, SoTC, Jak, R&C etc...MS is far behind Sony and Nintendo in this regard. They have Halo and Forza. Thats about it. Even GeoW is only exclusive for 2 games.

jg4xchamp

Not with the restrictive money hoarding MS is doing with the DLC from Gears. Even though Mark posted to diffuse the situation I don't think everything is so rosy between MS and Epic. They have battled on many points (DLC prices, mod community) and Epic never comes out on top of these discussions. I don't think they will like that for much longer. They probably make more from selling UE3 to everyone under the sun than what they made on Gears after MS takes thier publishing cut.

They bought Heavy Rain as an exclusive. Jack Tretton just get self owned even though most of the time since dont pay devs/publishers to make a game exclusive.kage_53

Wait, they PAID for that steaming pile of crap to only be on their console!?

[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

SCEA president Jack Tretton says "We have a very different approach to exclusives than some of our competitors. We don't buy exclusivity. We don't fund development. We don't, for lack of a better term, bribe somebody to only do a game on our platform. We earn it."

Is this naive or admirable?

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Verge_6

Ah, so the PS3 is pretty much screwed then, because it's in last place right now, right?

the games that sold those forementioned systems aren't on ps3 yet

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

SCEA president Jack Tretton says "We have a very different approach to exclusives than some of our competitors. We don't buy exclusivity. We don't fund development. We don't, for lack of a better term, bribe somebody to only do a game on our platform. We earn it."

Is this naive or admirable?

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Blinblingthing

Ah, so the PS3 is pretty much screwed then, because it's in last place right now, right?

the games that sold those forementioned systems aren't on ps3 yet

And many of those titles were Playstation exclusives (or at least for a time), if I am not mistaken.

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="harry2k5"]

1st party = Nintendo
3rd party = Microsoft

where does sony fit in this? multiplats? 2nd party?

jg4xchamp

i doubt that one

[QUOTE="gamergeekgeek"]"we don't buy exclusives, we lose exclusives" :lol:white_sox

I'd ask QD where they're going, but I have MORE IMPORTANT questions for them! Like, HEY! Are we going to get the next Gen equivalent of that AWESOME weight lifting mini game from Indigo Prophecy?!?!

d00d! That was the bawm! An instant classic! What new ways have you guys found to waste my time for this generation?!? I mean... can you TOP the claustrophobic breathing mini-game?

Seriously... I'm looking forward to PS3's usual suspects (Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and Clank, etc), but piss on QD. They still owe me the cost of the Indigo Prophecy rental and my wasted time.

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

SCEA president Jack Tretton says "We have a very different approach to exclusives than some of our competitors. We don't buy exclusivity. We don't fund development. We don't, for lack of a better term, bribe somebody to only do a game on our platform. We earn it."

Is this naive or admirable?

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Verge_6

Ah, so the PS3 is pretty much screwed then, because it's in last place right now, right?

the games that sold those forementioned systems aren't on ps3 yet

And many of those titles were Playstation exclusives (or at least for a time), if I am not mistaken.

yes

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="iwo4life"]

Let me get out my crystal ball and pre determine most of the posts in this thread.

"Well they should"

"They should but cant afford it."

"They lose exclusives"

"Bu Bu Bu (insert generic fanboy remark) "

In reality there are only a handfull of 3rd party games that are big time exclusives anymore. If you want an exclusive you better publish it or make it yourself. That is one thing that Sony does just as well as Nintendo and some say better. They have a s load of studios under the Sony umbrella and they crank out some pretty decent games. Other than MGS, FF, GTA most of the big games last gen on the PS2 were made by Sony or 2nd Party Sony studios. GT, GoW, SoTC, Jak, R&C etc...MS is far behind Sony and Nintendo in this regard. They have Halo and Forza. Thats about it. Even GeoW is only exclusive for 2 games.

iwo4life

Not with the restrictive money hoarding MS is doing with the DLC from Gears. Even though Mark posted to diffuse the situation I don't think everything is so rosy between MS and Epic. They have battled on many points (DLC prices, mod community) and Epic never comes out on top of these discussions. I don't think they will like that for much longer. They probably make more from selling UE3 to everyone under the sun than what they made on Gears after MS takes thier publishing cut.

They never have. Not saying that it's a smart thing or not but I dunno what's the fuss about them saying it now.tegovoltio

Thats exactly what am thinking. I don't recall deals to have GTA etc exclusive to PS, nor do i recalled them paying Capcom to bring RE4 to PS2.

So why is it now that they made this statement its potentially naive???

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="harry2k5"]

1st party = Nintendo
3rd party = Microsoft

where does sony fit in this? multiplats? 2nd party?

jg4xchamp

Nintendo only leads the industry in Mario milkage and thats all. Zelda hasn't changed since the first N64 game. I don't see how the overall quality of Zelda:TP is any higher than God of War. At least there was dialoge in GoW. Not just a bunch of beeps and moans that seemed like they were ripped right off a NES cart.

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

And many of those titles were Playstation exclusives (or at least for a time), if I am not mistaken.

Verge_6

yes

But...many of those exclusives had gone multiplatform, in one way or another. So, without the great quantity ofsaid exclusives...what are they going to do? Are hopes riding on new IP games like Lair, and Heavenly Sword?

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

SCEA president Jack Tretton says "We have a very different approach to exclusives than some of our competitors. We don't buy exclusivity. We don't fund development. We don't, for lack of a better term, bribe somebody to only do a game on our platform. We earn it."

Is this naive or admirable?

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Caseytappy

Both !

The man is admirable naive , a fool and proud of it .

Are you trying to say that Sony has been paying for exclusives in the past???

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="harry2k5"]

1st party = Nintendo
3rd party = Microsoft

where does sony fit in this? multiplats? 2nd party?

iwo4life

Nintendo only leads the industry in Mario milkage and thats all. Zelda hasn't changed since the first N64 game. I don't see how the overall quality of Zelda:TP is any higher than God of War. At least there was dialoge in GoW. Not just a bunch of beeps and moans that seemed like they were ripped right off a NES cart.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"] [QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

And many of those titles were Playstation exclusives (or at least for a time), if I am not mistaken.

Verge_6

yes

But...many of those exclusives had gone multiplatform, in one way or another. So, without the great quantity ofsaid exclusives...what are they going to do? Are hopes riding on new IP games like Lair, and Heavenly Sword?

Yes, I.E to compensate for some of those loses.

Think about it. PS over the years has given us sony critically acclaimed new IP

[QUOTE="tegovoltio"]They never have. Not saying that it's a smart thing or not but I dunno what's the fuss about them saying it now.Blinblingthing

Thats exactly what am thinking. I don't recall deals to have GTA etc exclusive to PS, nor do i recalled them paying Capcom to bring RE4 to PS2.

So why is it now that they made this statement its potentially naive???

Because they do not enjoy the same advantages they had in the past? and maybe their policy is out of date?

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Mouth peices can be so ignorant.cakeorrdeath

The president of SCEA is a mouth piece?:|

Everyone at Sony is a mouthpiece (in regards to the PS3). Ken Kutaragi kept SO MUCH of the development of the PS3 secret. When the product was finished they had a hella expensive console to market to the masses. Its tanking and devs are jumping ship because of it. Its up to Sony execs to say (by say I mean fabricate) things that put the PS3 in a positive light. Right now, positive spin is all Sony has going for it.

[QUOTE="kage_53"]They bought Heavy Rain as an exclusive. Jack Tretton just get self owned even though most of the time since dont pay devs/publishers to make a game exclusive.Verge_6

Wait, they PAID for that steaming pile of crap to only be on their console!?

indigo prophecies was a decent good game. so who knows how heavy rain will do. no one really talked about it when this game was announced on e3. i was interested in at the time, but slowly fizzled out cause there were no updates about the game since 06s e3.

[QUOTE="iwo4life"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="harry2k5"]

1st party = Nintendo
3rd party = Microsoft

where does sony fit in this? multiplats? 2nd party?

jg4xchamp

Nintendo only leads the industry in Mario milkage and thats all. Zelda hasn't changed since the first N64 game. I don't see how the overall quality of Zelda:TP is any higher than God of War. At least there was dialoge in GoW. Not just a bunch of beeps and moans that seemed like they were ripped right off a NES cart.

SOny one list the SOny 1 and 2nd party games please.

Trust me Nintendo is no where close to what SOny has brought us

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="kage_53"]They bought Heavy Rain as an exclusive. Jack Tretton just get self owned even though most of the time since dont pay devs/publishers to make a game exclusive.istreakforfood

Wait, they PAID for that steaming pile of crap to only be on their console!?

indigo prophecies was a decent good game. so who knows how heavy rain will do. no one really talked about it when this game was announced on e3. i was interested in at the time, but slowly fizzled out cause there were no updates about the game since 06s e3.

arent there other games besides heavy rain that sony bought for exclusiveness(err trettons term bride for exclusive :roll:)?

I was thinking of Vampire Rain by mistake. it's 1 am here, so my reading skills are...suffering.

"we don't buy exclusives, we lose exclusives" :lol:gamergeekgeek

dont be mad your xbox flopped and 360 is likely to follow in its footsteps. All Ms does is throw money around, which shows how much improving they need.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Verge_6"] [QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

And many of those titles were Playstation exclusives (or at least for a time), if I am not mistaken.

Blinblingthing

yes

But...many of those exclusives had gone multiplatform, in one way or another. So, without the great quantity ofsaid exclusives...what are they going to do? Are hopes riding on new IP games like Lair, and Heavenly Sword?

Yes, I.E to compensate for some of those loses.

Think about it. PS over the years has given us sony critically acclaimed new IP

But said new IPs could just as easily flop.

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Mouth peices can be so ignorant.gromit007

The president of SCEA is a mouth piece?:|

Everyone at Sony is a mouthpiece (in regards to the PS3). Ken Kutaragi kept SO MUCH of the development of the PS3 secret. When the product was finished they had a hella expensive console to market to the masses. Its tanking and devs are jumping ship because of it. Its up to Sony execs to say (by say I mean fabricate) things that put the PS3 in a positive light. Right now, positive spin is all Sony has going for it.

Tanking??? You mean not selling good?

What would you expect the most expensive system to do with none of its best games available for it???/

[QUOTE="gamergeekgeek"]"we don't buy exclusives, we lose exclusives" :lol:ff7isnumbaone

dont be mad your xbox flop and 360 is likely to follow in its footsteps. All Ms does is throw money around, which shows how much improving they need.

That was perhaps the lamest attempt at a comeback I have EVER seen...