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#1 seabiscuit8686
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Obviously this is system wars and everyone cares about sales and graphics....but I've noted one big thing everyone forgets - Sony is a business and the PS3 has been a horrible failure for them as a company.

Why?

Look at the fact that last generation they sold around (greater than) 140 million units (PS2) vs. a mere 25 million Xbox originals. If you look at the percentage (between only these companies), that is 560% more than the Xbox.

So even if the PS3 eventually outsells the Xbox 360 by 10 million or 20 million, what an embarrassment. They are still hemorrhaging money and will NEVER have the same results as the previous generation.

For a company, the ONLY thing that matters is money. The difference between last gen and this gen is horrifying if you are Sony. The bickering on here is laughable because it is clear...SONY HAS LOST

Not the "console wars" but the utter domination they had, and the utter cash cow they had.

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You are right TC *throws PS3 out the window*
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Obviously this is system wars and everyone cares about sales and graphics....but I've noted one big thing everyone forgets - Sony is a business and the PS3 has been a horrible failure for them as a company.

Why?

Look at the fact that last generation they sold around (greater than) 140 million units (PS2) vs. a mere 25 million Xbox originals. If you look at the percentage (between only these companies), that is 560% more than the Xbox.

So even if the PS3 eventually outsells the Xbox 360 by 10 million or 20 million, what an embarrassment. They are still hemorrhaging money and will NEVER have the same results as the previous generation.

For a company, the ONLY thing that matters is money. The difference between last gen and this gen is horrifying if you are Sony. The bickering on here is laughable because it is clear...SONY HAS LOST

Not the "console wars" but the utter domination they had, and the utter cash cow they had.

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You are right TC *throws PS3 out the window*RTUUMM
Imma jump and the bandwagon and throw mine at my cat
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You are right TC *throws PS3 out the window*RTUUMM
It has nothing to do with the enjoyment of the PS3...it is just stating that people who are basically saying "PS3 is catching up" are just ignorant people forgetting to look at the bigger picture of the failure this generation has been for sony. To the poster above...trolling how? By stating an opinion backed by facts?
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I feel like I'm back in 07.
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#8 KevinButlerVP
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it's 2010...
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#9 seabiscuit8686
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[QUOTE="seabiscuit8686"]

Obviously this is system wars and everyone cares about sales and graphics....but I've noted one big thing everyone forgets - Sony is a business and the PS3 has been a horrible failure for them as a company.

Why?

Look at the fact that last generation they sold around (greater than) 140 million units (PS2) vs. a mere 25 million Xbox originals. If you look at the percentage (between only these companies), that is 560% more than the Xbox.

So even if the PS3 eventually outsells the Xbox 360 by 10 million or 20 million, what an embarrassment. They are still hemorrhaging money and will NEVER have the same results as the previous generation.

For a company, the ONLY thing that matters is money. The difference between last gen and this gen is horrifying if you are Sony. The bickering on here is laughable because it is clear...SONY HAS LOST

Not the "console wars" but the utter domination they had, and the utter cash cow they had.

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Because assessing the past in determining present performance is something new.....
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#10 seabiscuit8686
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it's 2010...KevinButlerVP
It is 2010...and the PS3 has failed to accomplish what it was created to do - make Sony massive amounts of money and continue to dominate in market share
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#12 penumbra13
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This is system wars. Every post is a troll (or should be). That said, yes Sony has failed hard this gen.

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oh no...whatever shall I do with my pathetic ps3.... Oh that's right I'll play the award winning playstation 3 exclusives along with tons of other games and look forward to a killer lineup for next few years.

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Yeah, in fact, sony is not leading in most industries now...

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#16 seabiscuit8686
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Yeah, in fact, sony is not leading in most industries now...

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Cell Phone: Apple (smart phone), Nokia (cheap non smart phone)

Camcorder: Sony (too bad, dslr is eatingits high endmarket while dc and cell phone are taking over low end market)

oajlu
That is my point - thank you. The system is great (as are each in their own way). The point is not that the PS3 sucks, but that Sony as a company has been horrifyingly poor in the past several years. To those saying - "so what, doesn't affect my amazing games" - well yeah it does. Company's tend to avoid areas where they are not making money - hint hint
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#17 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

obvious_troll.jpg obvious troll image by elvisbloom

Very Obvious

seabiscuit8686

The only Black person at that party is the server...sad

Wow, racist AND stuck in the past? You rule TC. I must also throw my PS3 out the window now.

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[QUOTE="seabiscuit8686"][QUOTE="RTUUMM"]You are right TC *throws PS3 out the window*KevinButlerVP
It has nothing to do with the enjoyment of the PS3...it is just stating that people who are basically saying "PS3 is catching up" are just ignorant people forgetting to look at the bigger picture of the failure this generation has been for sony. To the poster above...trolling how? By stating an opinion backed by facts?

sony made blu ray the standard format and had to pay for it but in doing so have still made much better games then the 360 probably ever have imo

This is true. If they eventually make enough money off Blu-Ray to offset the loses and potential loses of the PS3, it will in fact be a successful generation because of that.
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#19 KevinButlerVP
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[QUOTE="oajlu"]

Yeah, in fact, sony is not leading in most industries now...

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Cell Phone: Apple (smart phone), Nokia (cheap non smart phone)

Camcorder: Sony (too bad, dslr is eatingits high endmarket while dc and cell phone are taking over low end market)

seabiscuit8686

That is my point - thank you. The system is great (as are each in their own way). The point is not that the PS3 sucks, but that Sony as a company has been horrifyingly poor in the past several years. To those saying - "so what, doesn't affect my amazing games" - well yeah it does. Company's tend to avoid areas where they are not making money - hint hint

I think you meanPS3 as a system, not Sony as a company. they make money on more than just PS3

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And yet I dont care how the company itself does... only the console quality and its library, funny that, you could be right. but it does nothing in SYSTEM WARS.
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#21 seabiscuit8686
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[QUOTE="seabiscuit8686"]

[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

obvious_troll.jpg obvious troll image by elvisbloom

Very Obvious

Blabadon

The only Black person at that party is the server...sad

Wow, racist AND stuck in the past? You rule TC. I must also throw my PS3 out the window now.

How is that racist - people at the party are racist - not me

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as a company that needs profit, it faild big time, but fans are very pleased, can't complain wutsoever.

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#23 seabiscuit8686
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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="seabiscuit8686"][QUOTE="oajlu"]

Yeah, in fact, sony is not leading in most industries now...

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Console: Nintendo

Computer: HP

Cell Phone: Apple (smart phone), Nokia (cheap non smart phone)

Camcorder: Sony (too bad, dslr is eatingits high endmarket while dc and cell phone are taking over low end market)

That is my point - thank you. The system is great (as are each in their own way). The point is not that the PS3 sucks, but that Sony as a company has been horrifyingly poor in the past several years. To those saying - "so what, doesn't affect my amazing games" - well yeah it does. Company's tend to avoid areas where they are not making money - hint hint

I think you PS3 as a system, not Sony as a company. they make money on more than just PS3

Of course they make money on more than the PS3....but any company losing money and not profiting in areas (without the prospect of eventually turning a profit) but their loses and move on to other areas of their business that are profitable... Econ 101
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#24 seabiscuit8686
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as a company that needs profit, it faild big time, but fans are very pleased, can't complain wutsoever.

2mrw
Exactly - PS3 = good console (no where have I disagreed) for the consumer PS3 = horrible console for Sony as they were expecting dominant market share and massive profit
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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="seabiscuit8686"] That is my point - thank you. The system is great (as are each in their own way). The point is not that the PS3 sucks, but that Sony as a company has been horrifyingly poor in the past several years. To those saying - "so what, doesn't affect my amazing games" - well yeah it does. Company's tend to avoid areas where they are not making money - hint hintseabiscuit8686
I think you PS3 as a system, not Sony as a company. they make money on more than just PS3

Of course they make money on more than the PS3....but any company losing money and not profiting in areas (without the prospect of eventually turning a profit) but their loses and move on to other areas of their business that are profitable... Econ 101

So by that theory Nintendo would of left the industry 2 generations ago. but they bounced back? and well Microsoft? have never had a boom and are still here.... so....
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#26 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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In real life the PS3 has sold better then the 360

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#27 ItsBriskBaby
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Huh! Did you pull a Fry and fall in a time machine andget released and think it's that time still. *O hey what's up Bender!*

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#28 seabiscuit8686
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In real life the PS3 has sold better then the 360

toast_burner
In real life - Microsoft won the generation (vs. Sony) due to an increase in market share and profitability while Sony has a decrease (massive) in market share and profitability
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Huh! Did you pull a Fry and fall in a time machine andget released and think it's that time still. *O hey what's up Bender!*

ItsBriskBaby
The "time machine" "throw PS3 out window" comments are people who cannot fathom the fact that Sony is a company that has lost vs. microsoft this generation. Instead of taking time to think about it...they write comments like this
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In real life the PS3 has sold better then the 360

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Lulz....link?

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#31 shabab12
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lololololololololol stupid thread. you act as if sony didnt know they were making a loss on the ps3. to launch a year and a half after the 360, having both competitors being literally less than half the price, and only be 4 million units behind is great.

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#32 seabiscuit8686
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[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="seabiscuit8686"][QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] I think you PS3 as a system, not Sony as a company. they make money on more than just PS3

Of course they make money on more than the PS3....but any company losing money and not profiting in areas (without the prospect of eventually turning a profit) but their loses and move on to other areas of their business that are profitable... Econ 101

So by that theory Nintendo would of left the industry 2 generations ago. but they bounced back? and well Microsoft? have never had a boom and are still here.... so....

Nintendo still had massive profits from Portables (since they were the only real system) and also had every reason to predict profitability in the market through the creation of another console....so no
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#33 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

In real life the PS3 has sold better then the 360

seabiscuit8686
In real life - Microsoft won the generation (vs. Sony) due to an increase in market share and profitability while Sony has a decrease (massive) in market share and profitability

I cant deny that. I was just pointing out the sales thing because a lot of people think wrongly about the sales.
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Yeah, in fact, sony is not leading in most industries now...

TV: Samsung

Digital Camera / DSLR: Canon

Console: Nintendo

Computer: HP

Cell Phone: Apple (smart phone), Nokia (cheap non smart phone)

Camcorder: Sony (too bad, dslr is eatingits high endmarket while dc and cell phone are taking over low end market)

oajlu

Apple is not leading in smartphones.

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What was the point of this?
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[QUOTE="ItsBriskBaby"]

Huh! Did you pull a Fry and fall in a time machine andget released and think it's that time still. *O hey what's up Bender!*

seabiscuit8686
The "time machine" "throw PS3 out window" comments are people who cannot fathom the fact that Sony is a company that has lost vs. microsoft this generation. Instead of taking time to think about it...they write comments like this

Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...... They realized there is still like 5 years left in this generation.
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#37 seabiscuit8686
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lololololololololol stupid thread.shabab12
Stupid because instead of ranting about Sony outselling the 360 in Europe and Asia, I am realistically looking at Sony and the PS3 as a whole and showing that the PS3 for Sony has been an utter failure....
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#38 seabiscuit8686
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[QUOTE="oajlu"]

Yeah, in fact, sony is not leading in most industries now...

TV: Samsung

Digital Camera / DSLR: Canon

Console: Nintendo

Computer: HP

Cell Phone: Apple (smart phone), Nokia (cheap non smart phone)

Camcorder: Sony (too bad, dslr is eatingits high endmarket while dc and cell phone are taking over low end market)

ianuilliam

Apple is not leading in smartphones.

Blackberry is - not relevant
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

In real life the PS3 has sold better then the 360

Modern_Unit

Lulz....link?

Whats better, selling 2000 products in one day, or selling 20000 in 10 years?

The answer is 2000 in one day, but on SW 20000 in 10 years is considerd better.

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#40 seabiscuit8686
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[QUOTE="seabiscuit8686"][QUOTE="ItsBriskBaby"]

Huh! Did you pull a Fry and fall in a time machine andget released and think it's that time still. *O hey what's up Bender!*

Blabadon
The "time machine" "throw PS3 out window" comments are people who cannot fathom the fact that Sony is a company that has lost vs. microsoft this generation. Instead of taking time to think about it...they write comments like this

Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...... They realized there is still like 5 years left in this generation.

In which they will be no where near the market share or profit of the PS2 - which they fully expected this generation
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[QUOTE="RTUUMM"]You are right TC *throws PS3 out the window*seabiscuit8686
It has nothing to do with the enjoyment of the PS3...it is just stating that people who are basically saying "PS3 is catching up" are just ignorant people forgetting to look at the bigger picture of the failure this generation has been for sony. To the poster above...trolling how? By stating an opinion backed by facts?

I assume you mean catching up to the PS2 which System Wars doesn't care about. What System Wars cares about is PS3 catching up to the 360, or are you just looking for an excuse to feel better about yourself that you made a difference on the internet? Sleep easy while I enjoy all my systems.

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

In real life the PS3 has sold better then the 360

seabiscuit8686

In real life - Microsoft won the generation (vs. Sony) due to an increase in market share and profitability while Sony has a decrease (massive) in market share and profitability

You just mentioned the fact that Blue-Ray could pull ps3 through, and now you're saying Microsoft has won this generation? What ever happened to quality content? Oh wait, this is SW... Are you posting this stuff just to hear your brain rattle?

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[QUOTE="seabiscuit8686"][QUOTE="ItsBriskBaby"]

Huh! Did you pull a Fry and fall in a time machine andget released and think it's that time still. *O hey what's up Bender!*

Blabadon

The "time machine" "throw PS3 out window" comments are people who cannot fathom the fact that Sony is a company that has lost vs. microsoft this generation. Instead of taking time to think about it...they write comments like this

Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...... They realized there is still like 5 years left in this generation.

5 Years? LOL wishful thinking , if Sony wants to come out last with there next gen console they will farther behind then this gen.

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What was the point of this?1stPlaceWinner
This is me pulling SW's head out of its $%# and looking at the real world and how company's view the console wars. It is "system wars" after all - so why not have a REAL view point
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#45 bphan
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Obviously this is system wars and everyone cares about sales and graphics....but I've noted one big thing everyone forgets - Sony is a business and the PS3 has been a horrible failure for them as a company.

Why?

Look at the fact that last generation they sold around (greater than) 140 million units (PS2) vs. a mere 25 million Xbox originals. If you look at the percentage (between only these companies), that is 560% more than the Xbox.

So even if the PS3 eventually outsells the Xbox 360 by 10 million or 20 million, what an embarrassment. They are still hemorrhaging money and will NEVER have the same results as the previous generation.

For a company, the ONLY thing that matters is money. The difference between last gen and this gen is horrifying if you are Sony. The bickering on here is laughable because it is clear...SONY HAS LOST

Not the "console wars" but the utter domination they had, and the utter cash cow they had.

seabiscuit8686

Sony said people would get two jobs in order to get a PS3. I guess Sony was wrong.

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#46 donalbane
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it's 2010...KevinButlerVP
A full 2 years before Sony said their games division will be profitable.
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#47 KevinButlerVP
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

In real life the PS3 has sold better then the 360

Lulz....link?

Whats better, selling 2000 products in one day, or selling 20000 in 10 years?

The answer is 2000 in one day, but on SW 20000 in 10 years is considerd better.

well thats what MS was aiming for, the 360 is much better in the short run while if you buy a PS3 you will know its gona last a long time
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#48 Nyxathid_Horror
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[QUOTE="seabiscuit8686"][QUOTE="ItsBriskBaby"]

Huh! Did you pull a Fry and fall in a time machine andget released and think it's that time still. *O hey what's up Bender!*

Blabadon

The "time machine" "throw PS3 out window" comments are people who cannot fathom the fact that Sony is a company that has lost vs. microsoft this generation. Instead of taking time to think about it...they write comments like this

Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...... They realized there is still like 5 years left in this generation.

For the PS3 that is, and it's more like 5-10; 360 has 2-4 (if even).

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#49 seabiscuit8686
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[QUOTE="seabiscuit8686"][QUOTE="RTUUMM"] [QUOTE="nitsud_19"]

[QUOTE="seabiscuit8686"][QUOTE="RTUUMM"]You are right TC *throws PS3 out the window*nitsud_19

It has nothing to do with the enjoyment of the PS3...it is just stating that people who are basically saying "PS3 is catching up" are just ignorant people forgetting to look at the bigger picture of the failure this generation has been for sony. To the poster above...trolling how? By stating an opinion backed by facts?

I assume you mean catching up to the PS2 which System Wars doesn't care about. What System Wars cares about is PS3 catching up to the 360, or are you just looking for an excuse to feel better about yourself that you made a difference on the internet? Sleep easy while I enjoy all my systems.

System Wars - Microsoft Xbox 360 gains market share and increases profitability. Sony PS3 loses massive market share and profitability. Microsoft wins war based on REAL life where profits and market share are what matter But yeah - I just saved the internet....

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#50 seabiscuit8686
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[QUOTE="seabiscuit8686"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

In real life the PS3 has sold better then the 360

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In real life - Microsoft won the generation (vs. Sony) due to an increase in market share and profitability while Sony has a decrease (massive) in market share and profitability

You just mentioned the fact that Blue-Ray could pull ps3 through, and now you're saying Microsoft has won this generation? What ever happened to quality content? Oh wait, this is SW... Are you posting this stuff just to hear your brain rattle?

Or it's considering the fact taht Blu-Ray MAY OR MAY NOT create as much profit for Sony as expected (we are in the may not at this point).