Sony: Real Life - Failed

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="oajlu"]

Yeah, in fact, sony is not leading in most industries now...

TV: Samsung

Digital Camera / DSLR: Canon

Console: Nintendo

Computer: HP

Cell Phone: Apple (smart phone), Nokia (cheap non smart phone)

Camcorder: Sony (too bad, dslr is eatingits high endmarket while dc and cell phone are taking over low end market)

seabiscuit8686

it's nokia..it doesnt require to sign up contract...so RIM and Apple's smartphone actualyl generate more $ to tele companies, so i dont count it.

and RIM is for business users, and i dont count b2b, since their companies pay their phone bill.

[QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

Lulz....link?

The answer is 2000 in one day, but on SW 20000 in 10 years is considerd better.

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]What was the point of this?seabiscuit8686

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

Lulz....link?

KevinButlerVP

The answer is 2000 in one day, but on SW 20000 in 10 years is considerd better.

Microsoft has repeatedly said that the Xbox 360 will last one day longer than the PS3. So I don't think they are worried.

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="toast_burner"] Whats better, selling 2000 products in one day, or selling 20000 in 10 years?

The answer is 2000 in one day, but on SW 20000 in 10 years is considerd better.

toast_burner

[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="seabiscuit8686"] The "time machine" "throw PS3 out window" comments are people who cannot fathom the fact that Sony is a company that has lost vs. microsoft this generation. Instead of taking time to think about it...they write comments like thisNyxathid_Horror

Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...... They realized there is still like 5 years left in this generation.

For the PS3 that is, and it's more like 5-10; 360 has 2-4 (if even).

[QUOTE="seabiscuit8686"][QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]What was the point of this?1stPlaceWinner

[QUOTE="nitsud_19"]

[QUOTE="seabiscuit8686"] It has nothing to do with the enjoyment of the PS3...it is just stating that people who are basically saying "PS3 is catching up" are just ignorant people forgetting to look at the bigger picture of the failure this generation has been for sony. To the poster above...trolling how? By stating an opinion backed by facts?seabiscuit8686

I assume you mean catching up to the PS2 which System Wars doesn't care about. What System Wars cares about is PS3 catching up to the 360, or are you just looking for an excuse to feel better about yourself that you made a difference on the internet? Sleep easy while I enjoy all my systems.

System Wars - Microsoft Xbox 360 gains market share and increases profitability. Sony PS3 loses massive market share and profitability. Microsoft wins war based on REAL life where profits and market share are what matter But yeah - I just saved the internet....

Rationality isn't wanted here in system wars. But seriously what you said was true. People here only see a small image. They gotta take a look at the whole view. MS is doing better than Sony because they are making profit overall and Sony is still losing money. That's the truth. Not a biased opinion.

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="toast_burner"] Whats better, selling 2000 products in one day, or selling 20000 in 10 years?

The answer is 2000 in one day, but on SW 20000 in 10 years is considerd better.

Microsoft has repeatedly said that the Xbox 360 will last one day longer than the PS3. So I don't think they are worried.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] well thats what MS was aiming for, the 360 is much better in the short run while if you buy a PS3 you will know its gona last a long timeKevinButlerVP

[QUOTE="bphan"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] well thats what MS was aiming for, the 360 is much better in the short run while if you buy a PS3 you will know its gona last a long timeKevinButlerVP

Microsoft has repeatedly said that the Xbox 360 will last one day longer than the PS3. So I don't think they are worried.

I have never seen a study that said:

360 users fed up with lack of first party exclusives

I think most companies when they were on top like sony can become content and loose that grasp on reality of what consumers want or stop driving forward, in sony's case they even seemed to believe decided what consumers want.

[QUOTE="seabiscuit8686"]

[QUOTE="nitsud_19"]

I assume you mean catching up to the PS2 which System Wars doesn't care about. What System Wars cares about is PS3 catching up to the 360, or are you just looking for an excuse to feel better about yourself that you made a difference on the internet? Sleep easy while I enjoy all my systems.

bphan

System Wars - Microsoft Xbox 360 gains market share and increases profitability. Sony PS3 loses massive market share and profitability. Microsoft wins war based on REAL life where profits and market share are what matter But yeah - I just saved the internet....

Rationality isn't wanted here in system wars. But seriously what you said was true. People here only see a small image. They gotta take a look at the whole view. MS is doing better than Sony because they are making profit overall and Sony is still losing money. That's the truth. Not a biased opinion.

[QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

Lulz....link?

The answer is 2000 in one day, but on SW 20000 in 10 years is considerd better.

well thats what MS was aiming for, the 360 is much better in the short run while if you buy a PS3 you will know its gona last a long timeKevinButlerVP

Microsoft has repeatedly said that the Xbox 360 will last one day longer than the PS3. So I don't think they are worried.

Obviously this is system wars and everyone cares about sales and graphics....but I've noted one big thing everyone forgets - Sony is a business and the PS3 has been a horrible failure for them as a company.

Why?

Look at the fact that last generation they sold around (greater than) 140 million units (PS2) vs. a mere 25 million Xbox originals. If you look at the percentage (between only these companies), that is 560% more than the Xbox.

So even if the PS3 eventually outsells the Xbox 360 by 10 million or 20 million, what an embarrassment. They are still hemorrhaging money and will NEVER have the same results as the previous generation.

For a company, the ONLY thing that matters is money. The difference between last gen and this gen is horrifying if you are Sony. The bickering on here is laughable because it is clear...SONY HAS LOST

Not the "console wars" but the utter domination they had, and the utter cash cow they had.

seabiscuit8686

Every console gen is a new start, a new round its really bizzare how many poeple ignore this

I think most companies when they were on top like sony can become content and loose that grasp on reality of what consumers want or stop driving forward, in sony's case they even seemed to believe decided what consumers want.

savagetwinkie

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="bphan"]

Microsoft has repeatedly said that the Xbox 360 will last one day longer than the PS3. So I don't think they are worried.

I have never seen a study that said:

360 users fed up with lack of first party exclusives

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="toast_burner"] Whats better, selling 2000 products in one day, or selling 20000 in 10 years?

The answer is 2000 in one day, but on SW 20000 in 10 years is considerd better.

donalbane

[QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] well I mean with hardware failures, lack of 1st party exclusives etc. I don't think people want to deal with rrod for another 5 yearsKevinButlerVP

I have never seen a study that said:

360 users fed up with lack of first party exclusives

I have seen this one:

PS3 users buy PS3 for blu ray ;)

[QUOTE="seabiscuit8686"]

System Wars - Microsoft Xbox 360 gains market share and increases profitability. Sony PS3 loses massive market share and profitability. Microsoft wins war based on REAL life where profits and market share are what matter But yeah - I just saved the internet....

Rationality isn't wanted here in system wars. But seriously what you said was true. People here only see a small image. They gotta take a look at the whole view. MS is doing better than Sony because they are making profit overall and Sony is still losing money. That's the truth. Not a biased opinion.

[QUOTE="seabiscuit8686"]

Obviously this is system wars and everyone cares about sales and graphics....but I've noted one big thing everyone forgets - Sony is a business and the PS3 has been a horrible failure for them as a company.

Why?

Look at the fact that last generation they sold around (greater than) 140 million units (PS2) vs. a mere 25 million Xbox originals. If you look at the percentage (between only these companies), that is 560% more than the Xbox.

So even if the PS3 eventually outsells the Xbox 360 by 10 million or 20 million, what an embarrassment. They are still hemorrhaging money and will NEVER have the same results as the previous generation.

For a company, the ONLY thing that matters is money. The difference between last gen and this gen is horrifying if you are Sony. The bickering on here is laughable because it is clear...SONY HAS LOST

Not the "console wars" but the utter domination they had, and the utter cash cow they had.

Zaibach

Every console gen is a new start, a new round its really bizzare how many poeple ignore this

the problem with ps3 is that ps3 gamers do not buy games . the ps3 game sales are horrible. The game sales is where sony really makes a profit.

[QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] well I mean with hardware failures, lack of 1st party exclusives etc. I don't think people want to deal with rrod for another 5 yearsKevinButlerVP

I have never seen a study that said:

360 users fed up with lack of first party exclusives

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

I have never seen a study that said:

360 users fed up with lack of first party exclusives

I have seen this one:

PS3 users buy PS3 for blu ray ;)

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

I have never seen a study that said:

360 users fed up with lack of first party exclusives

Modern_Unit

I have seen this one:

PS3 users buy PS3 for blu ray ;)

[QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] I havn't seen a study saying: PS3 users fed up with Sony's profits on PS3 your logic works both waysKevinButlerVP

I have seen this one:

PS3 users buy PS3 for blu ray ;)

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Its not even halfway through the year yet

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

the problem with ps3 is that ps3 gamers do not buy games . the ps3 game sales are horrible. The game sales is where sony really makes a profit.

enriK233

[QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] well thats what MS was aiming for, the 360 is much better in the short run while if you buy a PS3 you will know its gona last a long timetoast_burner

[QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] I havn't seen a study saying: PS3 users fed up with Sony's profits on PS3 your logic works both waystoast_burner

I have seen this one:

PS3 users buy PS3 for blu ray ;)

[QUOTE="enriK233"]

the problem with ps3 is that ps3 gamers do not buy games . the ps3 game sales are horrible. The game sales is where sony really makes a profit.

toast_burner

[QUOTE="enriK233"]

the problem with ps3 is that ps3 gamers do not buy games . the ps3 game sales are horrible. The game sales is where sony really makes a profit.

toast_burner

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="seabiscuit8686"]

Obviously this is system wars and everyone cares about sales and graphics....but I've noted one big thing everyone forgets - Sony is a business and the PS3 has been a horrible failure for them as a company.

Why?

Look at the fact that last generation they sold around (greater than) 140 million units (PS2) vs. a mere 25 million Xbox originals. If you look at the percentage (between only these companies), that is 560% more than the Xbox.

So even if the PS3 eventually outsells the Xbox 360 by 10 million or 20 million, what an embarrassment. They are still hemorrhaging money and will NEVER have the same results as the previous generation.

For a company, the ONLY thing that matters is money. The difference between last gen and this gen is horrifying if you are Sony. The bickering on here is laughable because it is clear...SONY HAS LOST

Not the "console wars" but the utter domination they had, and the utter cash cow they had.

seabiscuit8686

Every console gen is a new start, a new round its really bizzare how many poeple ignore this

It was obvious they expecect it to sell well, I'm sorry CEO I forgot you were in that board meeting, And thanks for the obvious "I didnt know that when companies made a product they want it to sell"

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="Modern_Unit"] I don't. My 2nd PS3 just broke last month.donalbane

The 360 was out for 4 years and the PS2 has been out for 10 years and still going. Of course the difference between them will be huge.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="enriK233"]

I have seen this one:

PS3 users buy PS3 for blu ray ;)

seabiscuit8686

The PS2 is still in the lead +1 more win for Sony :P

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

I have seen this one:

PS3 users buy PS3 for blu ray ;)

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Its not even halfway through the year yet

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] then why did PS3 beat MS software sales this year?KevinButlerVP

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Its not even halfway through the year yet

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

I dont know...ODLC had big numbers

[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="enriK233"]

the problem with ps3 is that ps3 gamers do not buy games . the ps3 game sales are horrible. The game sales is where sony really makes a profit.

enriK233

[QUOTE="enriK233"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]Its not 2006 anymore. FIipMode

[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

Very Obvious

seabiscuit8686

The only Black person at that party is the server...sad

top left bro

Yeah, in fact, sony is not leading in most industries now...

TV: Samsung

Digital Camera / DSLR: Canon

Console: Nintendo

Computer: HP

Cell Phone: Apple (smart phone), Nokia (cheap non smart phone)

Camcorder: Sony (too bad, dslr is eatingits high endmarket while dc and cell phone are taking over low end market)

oajlu

[QUOTE="enriK233"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]Its not 2006 anymore. FIipMode

[QUOTE="seabiscuit8686"]

[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

[Pic of troll]

Very Obvious

Macutchi

The only Black person at that party is the server...sad

top left bro

This was my reaction to you bumping that post:

there was a thread today at VGchartz that posted a very interesting chart:

"these numbers concern only the fiscal years and the gaming divisions"

[QUOTE="enriK233"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]Its not 2006 anymore. FIipMode