Sony Studios Worldwide Chief Blames Developers for Slow PS3 Sales in Japan. lol

Sony Studios Worldwide Chief Blames Developers for Slow PS3 Sales in Japan.

Sony Worldwide Studios president Shuhei Yoshida lamented the PlayStation 3's status in its home territory of Japan. However, he was quick to point the finger at Japan's third-party software makers for Sony's current standing, saying that they lack the "capabilities" to produce system-selling games.

"It's mostly a software thing,"Yoshida told Videogaming247. "Price is important, but relative to the the value consumers perceive. There are lots of consumers, game fans in Japan, that are waiting to spend their money," he claimed.

The system, the priciest of the three current-generation consoles, barely leads predecessor PlayStation 2 in Japanese sales charts despite approaching two years on sale. According to Japanese magazine Weekly Famitsu, the Nintendo DS outsold the PlayStation 3 by a factor of eight and Sony's PSP outsold it by a factor of three last week.

"What's happening is that lack of support from the Japanese publishers," Yoshida continued. "Not necessarily from intentions but from development capabilities."

Yoshida reportedly also agrees with the contingency of Japanese developers who believe that the West is currently trumping Japan's game development industry by being more creative.Shacknews

...and the blame game starts. and I'd expect nothing less from Sony than to blame someone else for their problems. Hell, I'm surprised they didn't blame the gamers yet. for having "poor taste" or something.

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I buy a game console to play games, it's the developers fault for not releasing any games for the ps3.

couldnt agree more. all PS3 needs are games that cater to them and watch how it outsells Wii.

I buy a game console to play games, it's the developers fault for not releasing any games for the ps3.

MouseOfClock

couldnt agree more. all PS3 needs are games that cater to them and watch how it outsells Wii.

MightyMuna

*swings fishing rod out*

[QUOTE="MouseOfClock"]

I buy a game console to play games, it's the developers fault for not releasing any games for the ps3.

Dreams-Visions

dont pull that cow BS......

PS3 doesnt have good games IN COMPARISON to 360s library. Wii too, 1st party wise.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="MouseOfClock"]

I buy a game console to play games, it's the developers fault for not releasing any games for the ps3.

-General_Ram-

dont pull that cow BS......

PS3 doesnt have good games IN COMPARISON to 360s library. Wii too, 1st party wise.

and the 360 and PS3 libraries are very damn comparible. PS3 has outsold the 360 in all but what? 2 weeks in its lifetime in Japan?

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="MouseOfClock"]

I buy a game console to play games, it's the developers fault for not releasing any games for the ps3.

-General_Ram-

dont pull that cow BS......

PS3 doesnt have good games IN COMPARISON to 360s library. Wii too, 1st party wise.

it true when you have japan studeos making exclusive games for a very pore sales console. makes you wonder how much micrsoft are paying for these jrp. if these games were for the ps 3 instead of 360 in japan the ps 3 would sell twice as many ps 3 as the 360 is selling now.

can't blame sony either because they are working on the jrpg like white night story ect. there not sitting there relying on third parties to make there jrpg.

[QUOTE="-General_Ram-"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="MouseOfClock"]

I buy a game console to play games, it's the developers fault for not releasing any games for the ps3.

Dreams-Visions

dont pull that cow BS......

PS3 doesnt have good games IN COMPARISON to 360s library. Wii too, 1st party wise.

and the 360 and PS3 libraries are very damn comparible. PS3 has outsold the 360 in all but what? 2 weeks in its lifetime in Japan?

i dont care who ur talking to you. I know I am talking to you.

Check ANY review site.....youll see 360 has 2x the number of games out NOW.

Check ANY review site.....youll see 360 has more games rated 70-99% NOW.

Actually......thats kinda ignorant about japan. It was outsold for 2 weeks since the 08 price drop, 1 when vesperia launched, 1 when ace combat 6 launched, and when Blue Dragon Launched.

Thats 5 weeks. It aint much but its kinda embarassing given the PS2 vs Xbox of last gen.

I love how people are so cynical on the internet, his intentions obviously aren't bad, he's just saying development on PS3 for that region is entirely too slow, which results in a lack of games for that region. His statment makes complete sense, why is this getting overblown?lantus

Because shacknews wants attention so they come up with a topic title that will attract people.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="MouseOfClock"]

I buy a game console to play games, it's the developers fault for not releasing any games for the ps3.

-General_Ram-

dont pull that cow BS......

PS3 doesnt have good games IN COMPARISON to 360s library. Wii too, 1st party wise.

what else does the 360 have that not on or better than ps 3 games. wii too lol first party wise lol what third party does not count for the ps 3 they only count for the 360 library right.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="MouseOfClock"]

I buy a game console to play games, it's the developers fault for not releasing any games for the ps3.

-General_Ram-

dont pull that cow BS......

PS3 doesnt have good games IN COMPARISON to 360s library. Wii too, 1st party wise.

I knew it Dreams, you've been masquerading this whole time!!!

Sony Studios Worldwide Chief Blames Developers for Slow PS3 Sales in Japan.

[QUOTE="Shacknews"]Sony Worldwide Studios president Shuhei Yoshida lamented the PlayStation 3's status in its home territory of Japan. However, he was quick to point the finger at Japan's third-party software makers for Sony's current standing, saying that they lack the "capabilities" to produce system-selling games.

"It's mostly a software thing,"Yoshida told Videogaming247. "Price is important, but relative to the the value consumers perceive. There are lots of consumers, game fans in Japan, that are waiting to spend their money," he claimed.

The system, the priciest of the three current-generation consoles, barely leads predecessor PlayStation 2 in Japanese sales charts despite approaching two years on sale. According to Japanese magazine Weekly Famitsu, the Nintendo DS outsold the PlayStation 3 by a factor of eight and Sony's PSP outsold it by a factor of three last week.

"What's happening is that lack of support from the Japanese publishers," Yoshida continued. "Not necessarily from intentions but from development capabilities."

Yoshida reportedly also agrees with the contingency of Japanese developers who believe that the West is currently trumping Japan's game development industry by being more creative.Dreams-Visions

...and the blame game starts. and I'd expect nothing less from Sony than to blame someone else for their problems. Hell, I'm surprised they didn't blame the gamers yet. for having "poor taste" or something.

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ORANGE = 'LOL, WUT' / LMAO!

RED = *facepalm*

Give it time.

[QUOTE="-General_Ram-"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="MouseOfClock"]

I buy a game console to play games, it's the developers fault for not releasing any games for the ps3.

MouseOfClock

dont pull that cow BS......

PS3 doesnt have good games IN COMPARISON to 360s library. Wii too, 1st party wise.

I love how people are so cynical on the internet, his intentions obviously aren't bad, he's just saying development on PS3 for that region is entirely too slow, which results in a lack of games for that region. His statment makes complete sense, why is this getting overblown?lantus

Because it's SONY's fault for forcing the PS3 to become their Blu-Ray trojan horse...pressing the price skyward...giving millions of would-be console owners cold feet. which has, of course, impacted the ability of developers to make money off the console.

All of those things are Sony's fault. It's pretty narrow-minded to blame the developers for an environment SONY created.

[QUOTE="-General_Ram-"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="MouseOfClock"]

I buy a game console to play games, it's the developers fault for not releasing any games for the ps3.

blue_hazy_basic

dont pull that cow BS......

PS3 doesnt have good games IN COMPARISON to 360s library. Wii too, 1st party wise.

I knew it Dreams, you've been masquerading this whole time!!!

I agree, I am not saying he is putting blame but the JRPG list for the PS3 is small. Mostly because JRPGs take time to make and the PS3 came out later. I do agree that the PS3 and 360s games are comparable but he is not defending the PS3s sales agains the 360s sales. The PS3 is killing the 360 in Japan, thats no question, he is saying that the PS3s sales could be alot higher then it currently is if more Japanese developers had released their JRPGs on the PS3 instead of Japan waiting a year longer for games like Eternal Sonata.

Everyone is quick to point out that the PS3 is lacking in the JRPG department yet somehow its bad when a Sony exec notices it too and says it hinders their sales?

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="-General_Ram-"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="MouseOfClock"]

I buy a game console to play games, it's the developers fault for not releasing any games for the ps3.

-General_Ram-

dont pull that cow BS......

PS3 doesnt have good games IN COMPARISON to 360s library. Wii too, 1st party wise.

and the 360 and PS3 libraries are very damn comparible. PS3 has outsold the 360 in all but what? 2 weeks in its lifetime in Japan?

i dont care who ur talking to you. I know I am talking to you.

Check ANY review site.....youll see 360 has 2x the number of games out NOW.

Check ANY review site.....youll see 360 has more games rated 70-99% NOW.

Actually......thats kinda ignorant about japan. It was outsold for 2 weeks since the 08 price drop, 1 when vesperia launched, 1 when ace combat 6 launched, and when Blue Dragon Launched.

Thats 5 weeks. It aint much but its kinda embarassing given the PS2 vs Xbox of last gen.

I agree, I am not saying he is putting blame but the JRPG list for the PS3 is small. Mostly because JRPGs take time to make and the PS3 came out later. I do agree that the PS3 and 360s games are comparable but he is not defending the PS3s sales agains the 360s sales. The PS3 is killing the 360 in Japan, thats no question, he is saying that the PS3s sales could be alot higher then it currently is if more Japanese developers had released their JRPGs on the PS3 instead of Japan waiting a year longer for games like Eternal Sonata.

Everyone is quick to point out that the PS3 is lacking in the JRPG department yet somehow its bad when a Sony exec notices it too and says it hinders their sales?

Javy03

and how many JRPGs does the Wii have?

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="-General_Ram-"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="MouseOfClock"]

I buy a game console to play games, it's the developers fault for not releasing any games for the ps3.

Dreams-Visions

dont pull that cow BS......

PS3 doesnt have good games IN COMPARISON to 360s library. Wii too, 1st party wise.

I knew it Dreams, you've been masquerading this whole time!!!

oops, my bad. u just sounded like u were blindly defending ps3s library.

[QUOTE="MouseOfClock"][QUOTE="-General_Ram-"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="MouseOfClock"]

I buy a game console to play games, it's the developers fault for not releasing any games for the ps3.

Dreams-Visions

dont pull that cow BS......

PS3 doesnt have good games IN COMPARISON to 360s library. Wii too, 1st party wise.

I love how people are so cynical on the internet, his intentions obviously aren't bad, he's just saying development on PS3 for that region is entirely too slow, which results in a lack of games for that region. His statment makes complete sense, why is this getting overblown?lantus

Because it's SONY's fault for forcing the PS3 to become their Blu-Ray trojan horse...pressing the price skyward...giving millions of would-be console owners cold feet. which has, of course, impacted the ability of developers to make money off the console.

All of those things are Sony's fault. It's pretty narrow-minded to blame the developers for an environment SONY created.

Thats exactly what it is, I believe alot of people will read this post and ignore it.

people seem to forget that it took X360 over 2 years to get a decent JRPG (Tales of Vesperia). PS3 launched Nov 06, it aint even 2 years yet. and its getting White Knight this Dec. seriously guys, relax.MightyMuna

to Dreams- Wii is not selling because it has good library, its selling because it has a bad library, a library that caters to non-gamers, there are more non-gamers than gamers. look at Wii Fit.

people seem to forget that it took X360 over 2 years to get a decent JRPG (Tales of Vesperia). PS3 launched Nov 06, it aint even 2 years yet. and its getting White Knight this Dec. seriously guys, relax.MightyMuna

because I'm not aware of any. yet...well...the sales.

Sony created this mess with their poor hardware/software integration and early support. Does anyone REALLY think Polyphony wanted to spend an entire generation making ONE racing game while competitors like Turn 10 release 2 in the same timeframe? you guys all know time is money...and developers want to get games out as fast as possible. well the difficulty in programming games on the PS3 for many devs seems to have hindered their ability to put games out quickly.

as such, the PS3's library may suffer. but the root cause of all of those things is the playstation 3's nature. pointing to developers is like pointing at a branch for the reason a tree is sick. no. look at the root.

[QUOTE="MightyMuna"]people seem to forget that it took X360 over 2 years to get a decent JRPG (Tales of Vesperia). PS3 launched Nov 06, it aint even 2 years yet. and its getting White Knight this Dec. seriously guys, relax.Ibacai

correct me if I'm wrong, but LO and IU were released this year, thats more than 2 years since X360 launched.

to Dreams- Wii is not selling because it has good library, its selling because it has a bad library, a library that caters to non-gamers, there are more non-gamers than gamers. look at Wii Fit.

MightyMuna

my point is, Sony's price tag, difficulty of developing for the hardware, and weak software (still trying to catch up to Xbox Live technologies and features) and software integration (still hard to find games with achievements or custom soundtracks, for example) are the reason a giant library of games aren't there. it's Sony's fault, not developers who are working their butts off to get games out.

and it's not like PS3 owners have been much of an encouragement to perspective developers, as my fellow PS3 owners have the lowest software attach ratio world-wide of any console.

[QUOTE="MightyMuna"]people seem to forget that it took X360 over 2 years to get a decent JRPG (Tales of Vesperia). PS3 launched Nov 06, it aint even 2 years yet. and its getting White Knight this Dec. seriously guys, relax.Dreams-Visions

because I'm not aware of any. yet...well...the sales.

Sony created this mess with their poor hardware/software integration and early support. Does anyone REALLY think Polyphony wanted to spend an entire generation making ONE racing game while competitors like Turn 10 release 2 in the same timeframe? you guys all know time is money...and developers want to get games out as fast as possible. well the difficulty in programming games on the PS3 for many devs seems to have hindered their ability to put games out quickly.

as such, the PS3's library may suffer. but the root cause of all of those things is the playstation 3's nature. pointing to developers is like pointing at a branch for the reason a tree is sick. no. look at the root.

[QUOTE="MightyMuna"]people seem to forget that it took X360 over 2 years to get a decent JRPG (Tales of Vesperia). PS3 launched Nov 06, it aint even 2 years yet. and its getting White Knight this Dec. seriously guys, relax.Dreams-Visions

because I'm not aware of any. yet...well...the sales.

Sony created this mess with their poor hardware/software integration and early support. Does anyone REALLY think Polyphony wanted to spend an entire generation making ONE racing game while competitors like Turn 10 release 2 in the same timeframe? you guys all know time is money...and developers want to get games out as fast as possible. well the difficulty in programming games on the PS3 for many devs seems to have hindered their ability to put games out quickly.

as such, the PS3's library may suffer. but the root cause of all of those things is the playstation 3's nature. pointing to developers is like pointing at a branch for the reason a tree is sick. no. look at the root.

the cell is PS3's worst enemy.

Blame cell for KZ2, GT5, and FF13, FFV13 4-5 year dev cycles.

In the Meantime 360 gets Forza 2-3, Gears 1-2, BD/LO/Cry On (Mistwalker jrpgs).

Friendly developer kits are your best friend sony.........

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="MightyMuna"]people seem to forget that it took X360 over 2 years to get a decent JRPG (Tales of Vesperia). PS3 launched Nov 06, it aint even 2 years yet. and its getting White Knight this Dec. seriously guys, relax.MightyMuna

correct me if I'm wrong, but LO and IU were released this year, thats more than 2 years since X360 launched.

It's not blame. :| I disagree with the article. To me, it is a fact that there's a lack of support from Japanese games developers, and this has contributed to the lesser sales of ps3 in Japan. The more Japanese games = more sales in Japan, what is there to blame?hoplayletsplay

And why is there less support for the PS3 in japan? Because of the install base? Yes. Which was caused by SONY making a $600 Blu-Ray player.

[QUOTE="Javy03"]

I agree, I am not saying he is putting blame but the JRPG list for the PS3 is small. Mostly because JRPGs take time to make and the PS3 came out later. I do agree that the PS3 and 360s games are comparable but he is not defending the PS3s sales agains the 360s sales. The PS3 is killing the 360 in Japan, thats no question, he is saying that the PS3s sales could be alot higher then it currently is if more Japanese developers had released their JRPGs on the PS3 instead of Japan waiting a year longer for games like Eternal Sonata.

Everyone is quick to point out that the PS3 is lacking in the JRPG department yet somehow its bad when a Sony exec notices it too and says it hinders their sales?

Dreams-Visions

and how many JRPGs does the Wii have?

We all know the Wii sells for different reasons then the PS3 and the 360. Its been outselling all the consoles available in EVERY region and it has the worst games. Mostly because its cheap, easily accessible, different, etc. Japan loves quirky weird games and the Wii is full of them.

The truth is the HD era is hard on developers. They are taking longer and longer to come out with games. I mean we are gonna be 3 years into the HD gaming era and still no FF. I do believe price is an issue but then again with the PS2 still going strong in the JRPG department, it looks like some people just dont see a reason to upgrade quite yet. There is no simple answer but develpment cycles definatly take a toll on all systems.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="MightyMuna"]people seem to forget that it took X360 over 2 years to get a decent JRPG (Tales of Vesperia). PS3 launched Nov 06, it aint even 2 years yet. and its getting White Knight this Dec. seriously guys, relax.-General_Ram-

because I'm not aware of any. yet...well...the sales.

Sony created this mess with their poor hardware/software integration and early support. Does anyone REALLY think Polyphony wanted to spend an entire generation making ONE racing game while competitors like Turn 10 release 2 in the same timeframe? you guys all know time is money...and developers want to get games out as fast as possible. well the difficulty in programming games on the PS3 for many devs seems to have hindered their ability to put games out quickly.

as such, the PS3's library may suffer. but the root cause of all of those things is the playstation 3's nature. pointing to developers is like pointing at a branch for the reason a tree is sick. no. look at the root.

the cell is PS3's worst enemy.

Blame cell for KZ2, GT5, and FF13, FFV13 4-5 year dev cycles.

In the Meantime 360 gets Forza 2-3, Gears 1-2, BD/LO/Cry On (Mistwalker jrpgs).

Friendly developer kits are your best friend sony.........

Which is why I find it so startling that Sony would have the nerve and audacity to blame the developers for this mess.

Makes me really take my hat off to Insomniac (Resistance, Resistance 2, Ratchet & Clank). They have unusually strong talent there.

all should applaud them. just because they've overcome a lot of ****.

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="MightyMuna"]people seem to forget that it took X360 over 2 years to get a decent JRPG (Tales of Vesperia). PS3 launched Nov 06, it aint even 2 years yet. and its getting White Knight this Dec. seriously guys, relax.MightyMuna

correct me if I'm wrong, but LO and IU were released this year, thats more than 2 years since X360 launched.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Javy03"]

I agree, I am not saying he is putting blame but the JRPG list for the PS3 is small. Mostly because JRPGs take time to make and the PS3 came out later. I do agree that the PS3 and 360s games are comparable but he is not defending the PS3s sales agains the 360s sales. The PS3 is killing the 360 in Japan, thats no question, he is saying that the PS3s sales could be alot higher then it currently is if more Japanese developers had released their JRPGs on the PS3 instead of Japan waiting a year longer for games like Eternal Sonata.

Everyone is quick to point out that the PS3 is lacking in the JRPG department yet somehow its bad when a Sony exec notices it too and says it hinders their sales?

Javy03

and how many JRPGs does the Wii have?

We all know the Wii sells for different reasons then the PS3 and the 360. Its been outselling all the consoles available in EVERY region and it has the worst games. Mostly because its cheap, easily accessible, different, etc. Japan loves quirky weird games and the Wii is full of them.

The truth is the HD era is hard on developers. They are taking longer and longer to come out with games. I mean we are gonna be 3 years into the HD gaming era and still no FF. I do believe price is an issue but then again with the PS2 still going strong in the JRPG department, it looks like some people just dont see a reason to upgrade quite yet. There is no simple answer but develpment cycles definatly take a toll on all systems.

but seriously, the HD era has been disproportionally harder on Sony than it has on Microsoft. and it's Sony's fault.

By the time Gran Turismo 5 comes out, Turn 10 will have released 2 Forza games.

360 had DoA4 how long before Soul Calibur IV (I would mention VF, but the PS3 version had no multiplay)

examples go on and on. this is the fault of Sony and their design choices along the way.

[QUOTE="MightyMuna"]people seem to forget that it took X360 over 2 years to get a decent JRPG (Tales of Vesperia). PS3 launched Nov 06, it aint even 2 years yet. and its getting White Knight this Dec. seriously guys, relax.Ibacai

I beleive Blue Dragon was the first big title JRPG to release aside from Enchanted Arm which both got near launch and it was thee months shy of TWO years from launch. The rest came after two years going on three. JRPGs take time to make, the 360 had to wait a good while for theirs and so does the PS3. Both systems are slowly getting JRPGs.

The PS3 is not behind the curve.

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="MightyMuna"]people seem to forget that it took X360 over 2 years to get a decent JRPG (Tales of Vesperia). PS3 launched Nov 06, it aint even 2 years yet. and its getting White Knight this Dec. seriously guys, relax.Javy03

I beleive Blue Dragon was the first big title JRPG to release aside from Enchanted Arm which both got near launch and it was thee months shy of TWO years from launch. The rest came after two years going on three. JRPGs take time to make, the 360 had to wait a good while for theirs and so does the PS3. Both systems are slowly getting JRPGs.

The PS3 is not behind the curve.

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="MightyMuna"]people seem to forget that it took X360 over 2 years to get a decent JRPG (Tales of Vesperia). PS3 launched Nov 06, it aint even 2 years yet. and its getting White Knight this Dec. seriously guys, relax.Javy03

I beleive Blue Dragon was the first big title JRPG to release aside from Enchanted Arm which both got near launch and it was thee months shy of TWO years from launch. The rest came after two years going on three. JRPGs take time to make, the 360 had to wait a good while for theirs and so does the PS3. Both systems are slowly getting JRPGs.

The PS3 is not behind the curve.

wrong. ur blind.

360 got timed exclusivity of Enchanted Arms, Eternal Sonata, and upcoming Last Remnant. It has 2 jrpgMMOs (multiplat but not on PS3) which are Phantasy Star Universe and FFX1. It has Blue Dragon, Lost Odessey, Tales of Vesperia. 09 will deliever Cry On and Star OCean. And thats WITHOUT the tokyo game show announcements.

PS3 just got its first jrpg........Eternal Sonata....a 1 year port.

Wow, Sony continues with its "Foot in mouth" syndrome. Seriously, Sony has no one else to blame but themselves. They got too arrogant for their own good and insisted on the $600 price tag.

Game development is also expensive for the 3rd party devs. Why do you think companies like SE release only a few new games and a ton of remakes? They've spent a lot of money on both FFXIII and FF Versus XIII that they don't have enough money to fund these new games. Look at Konami. They spent so much on MGS4 that they didn't have enough money to fund other projects.

Sony has caused all this on themselves.

[QUOTE="hoplayletsplay"]It's not blame. :| I disagree with the article. To me, it is a fact that there's a lack of support from Japanese games developers, and this has contributed to the lesser sales of ps3 in Japan. The more Japanese games = more sales in Japan, what is there to blame?Nagidar

Even if I agree with what you've just said, it has nothing to do with my comment. I was saying the article is wrong for portraying Sony blaming on the developers. And is there anything wrong with my statment anyway, why would you come up with something so irrelevant?

And why is there less support for the PS3 in japan? Because of the install base? Yes. Which was caused by SONY making a $600 Blu-Ray player.

Even if I agree with what you've just said, it has nothing to do with my comment. I was saying the article is wrong for portraying Sony blaming on the developers. And is there anything wrong with my statment anyway, why would you come up with something so irrelevant?

Edit: If you think I said the lack of Japanese developer support is the sole reason of low ps3 sales in Japan, then you're wrong. I said, it contributed to the outcome, which means become part of the reasons. How hard is it for you and many others to understand the fact (yes, I think it's a fact) that, more high profile Jrpg will help increasing the sales in Japan.

Try figure it out of what will happen if 360 doesn't have shooters or wii doesn't have have any Nintendo games. Sony is not blaming, just stating the fact.

agreed on why people buy the consoles. I'm shameless fishing today. :)

but seriously, the HD era has been disproportionally harder on Sony than it has on Microsoft. and it's Sony's fault.

By the time Gran Turismo 5 comes out, Turn 10 will have released 2 Forza games.

360 had DoA4 how long before Soul Calibur IV (I would mention VF, but the PS3 version had no multiplay)

examples go on and on. this is the fault of Sony and their design choices along the way.

Dreams-Visions

I disagree, yes GT 5 will come out and there will have been 2 Forza games but GT is not a company that pumps out games. Not to mention that by this Fall there will be 2 Motorstorms which actually sold well and now with split screen will fix many flaws that the first one had.

You can't dismiss VF because it didnt have online, people still bought and played it. PS3 owners had their fighter. And they had to wait for SC 4 as well.

Development time has taken longer this time around. But once these devs finally push out one game they will be able to pump out the sequels much faster with ground work to use.

The 360 didnt get its next decent JRPG aside from Enchanted arms which both consoles had early till the Two year mark. Then it was Two years going on three before the next couple decent ones. The PS3 is on that same path. Eternal Sonota then Last Remnant the WKS.

The HD era is hard on devs and will get easier with time. It hasnt been harder on the PS3, the media has just been harder on the PS3. Since the Xbox did so poorly they have 0 expectations for it so anything it does is improvement. But the PS3 has to Dominate or its not good enough.

The 360 and PS3 fans had to wait roughly the same amount for their quality software thanks to the HD era.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]agreed on why people buy the consoles. I'm shameless fishing today. :)

but seriously, the HD era has been disproportionally harder on Sony than it has on Microsoft. and it's Sony's fault.

By the time Gran Turismo 5 comes out, Turn 10 will have released 2 Forza games.

360 had DoA4 how long before Soul Calibur IV (I would mention VF, but the PS3 version had no multiplay)

examples go on and on. this is the fault of Sony and their design choices along the way.

Javy03

I disagree, yes GT 5 will come out and there will have been 2 Forza games but GT is not a company that pumps out games. Not to mention that by this Fall there will be 2 Motorstorms which actually sold well and now with split screen will fix many flaws that the first one had.

You can't dismiss VF because it didnt have online, people still bought and played it. PS3 owners had their fighter. And they had to wait for SC 4 as well.

Development time has taken longer this time around. But once these devs finally push out one game they will be able to pump out the sequels much faster with ground work to use.

The 360 didnt get its next decent JRPG aside from Enchanted arms which both consoles had early till the Two year mark. Then it was Two years going on three before the next couple decent ones. The PS3 is on that same path. Eternal Sonota then Last Remnant the WKS.

The HD era is hard on devs and will get easier with time. It hasnt been harder on the PS3, the media has just been harder on the PS3. Since the Xbox did so poorly they have 0 expectations for it so anything it does is improvement. But the PS3 has to Dominate or its not good enough.

The 360 and PS3 fans had to wait roughly the same amount for their quality software thanks to the HD era.

ill say ti again.........

360 got timed exclusivity of Enchanted Arms, Eternal Sonata, and upcoming Last Remnant. It has 2 jrpgMMOs (multiplat but not on PS3) which are Phantasy Star Universe and FFX1. It has Blue Dragon, Lost Odessey, Tales of Vesperia. 09 will deliever Cry On and Star OCean. And thats WITHOUT the tokyo game show announcements.

PS3 just got its first jrpg........Eternal Sonata....a 1 year port.

It actually is if you read my post before this one you just did.Ibacai

I did, you said by the Two year mark it will have ES. So the PS3 will have ES, Disegea 3, and Enchanted arm at the same time the 360 had Enchanted arm and Blue Dragon. How is that behind? Then it will have Valkyria Chronicles WKS, Last Remnant, and more soon.

Wow, Sony continues with its "Foot in mouth" syndrome. Seriously, Sony has no one else to blame but themselves. They got too arrogant for their own good and insisted on the $600 price tag.

Game development is also expensive for the 3rd party devs. Why do you think companies like SE release only a few new games and a ton of remakes? They've spent a lot of money on both FFXIII and FF Versus XIII that they don't have enough money to fund these new games. Look at Konami. They spent so much on MGS4 that they didn't have enough money to fund other projects.

Sony has caused all this on themselves.

Zhengi

[QUOTE="Ibacai"] It actually is if you read my post before this one you just did.Javy03

I did, you said by the Two year mark it will have ES. So the PS3 will have ES, Disegea 3, and Enchanted arm at the same time the 360 had Enchanted arm and Blue Dragon. How is that behind? Then it will have Valkyria Chronicles WKS, Last Remnant, and more soon.

ill say it for a third time..........

360 got timed exclusivity of Enchanted Arms, Eternal Sonata, and upcoming Last Remnant. It has 2 jrpgMMOs (multiplat but not on PS3) which are Phantasy Star Universe and FFX1. It has Blue Dragon, Lost Odessey, Tales of Vesperia. 09 will deliever Cry On and Star OCean. And thats WITHOUT the tokyo game show announcements.

PS3 just got its first jrpg........Eternal Sonata....a 1 year port.

**********You seem to be comparing 360 and PS3 in their second year. WRONG, 360 is in its third year. 360 got a year lead and u gotta accept and DEAL with that. And dont count Srpgs.....that only makes ur argument even less compelling.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Javy03"]

I agree, I am not saying he is putting blame but the JRPG list for the PS3 is small. Mostly because JRPGs take time to make and the PS3 came out later. I do agree that the PS3 and 360s games are comparable but he is not defending the PS3s sales agains the 360s sales. The PS3 is killing the 360 in Japan, thats no question, he is saying that the PS3s sales could be alot higher then it currently is if more Japanese developers had released their JRPGs on the PS3 instead of Japan waiting a year longer for games like Eternal Sonata.

Everyone is quick to point out that the PS3 is lacking in the JRPG department yet somehow its bad when a Sony exec notices it too and says it hinders their sales?

Javy03

and how many JRPGs does the Wii have?

We all know the Wii sells for different reasons then the PS3 and the 360. Its been outselling all the consoles available in EVERY region and it has the worst games. Mostly because its cheap, easily accessible, different, etc. Japan loves quirky weird games and the Wii is full of them.

The truth is the HD era is hard on developers. They are taking longer and longer to come out with games. I mean we are gonna be 3 years into the HD gaming era and still no FF. I do believe price is an issue but then again with the PS2 still going strong in the JRPG department, it looks like some people just dont see a reason to upgrade quite yet. There is no simple answer but develpment cycles definatly take a toll on all systems.

bold part i would agree with

the cheap and worst games not so much but then again for my "hardcore" games i use the pc

from my point of view the wii is the only console out that is sticking to the roots of being a console and delivering what the pc does not ...unless you include some little indi/flash games

it sells not because its cheap but because its not seen as over priced. here in town we have a lo0t of pizza places (its a college town) we only have one "gourmet" place where a pizza cost 25$, yea its damned good but they dont pull the volume as say papa john's. for papa johns it is not seen as cheap or the best but good and reasonable. there are also cheap places that some how make their pizza taste like cardboard, cheaper then papa's and does less business because it is seen as an onferior good