;Sony: There's no way Xbox 360 will win in the end

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

I agree with Hirai that they're not competing with the Wii.

The people likely to by a Wii are definitely not the same type of people likely to by a 360 or PS3. So no, they're not really competing at the cash register.

jg4xchamp

I think people are still stuck in the traditional console race mentality where Nintendo is as they always were. If it's a console, then they're automatically competing.

I don't see it that way anymore. Things have changed. Nintendo is going for the casual and non-gamers. Sony and MS are, for the most part, still going after the core gamers. The target audiences are so different, I wouldn't think they'd be significantly eating into one another's userbase. Of course there is some overlap, but by in large, that overlap isn't big enough to say they're directly in competition.

VoodooHak

Yea...well with Sony's "10 year plan" and MS releasing a new system in 2-3 years, I'd hope so.

PS3 will have a bigger install base, because they keep it lingering, yet MS will make more money in those same 10 years.

Mau-Justice

Wii is defianetly in competition with the 360 and PS3. :|

If it isn't, than DS and PSP aren't in competition.

[QUOTE="Mau-Justice"]

Yea...well with Sony's "10 year plan" and MS releasing a new system in 2-3 years, I'd hope so.

PS3 will have a bigger install base, because they keep it lingering, yet MS will make more money in those same 10 years.

EmperorSupreme

Microsoft has never had a 10 year console cycle- They only had one console...that was losing them money...where as the 360 is allready making profits...and Microsoft is set to go longer this time aroundjg4xchamp

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]I agree - It would be wise for a company next gen., maybe even Sega :) or someone else to compete in that different VG market and make a bunch of quick cash. Heck, they can make a $90.00 console and sell it @ $250.00 and laugh all the way to the bank too. :PSecretPolice

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Microsoft has never had a 10 year console cycle- They only had one console...that was losing them money...where as the 360 is allready making profits...and Microsoft is set to go longer this time aroundPhilMargera

Uhhhhhhh, some guy from Microsoft said the exact same thing at E3 last year. I sure hope you all jumped at his throat too. :roll: Personally, I like this. I thought it was a little arrogant of MS to say that at first but then I realised how good that is for us. It means both MS and SCE are committed to putting out the best console and services available. This just means the competition heats up, and that means that at the end of the day we, as gamers, win.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="Mau-Justice"]

Yea...well with Sony's "10 year plan" and MS releasing a new system in 2-3 years, I'd hope so.

PS3 will have a bigger install base, because they keep it lingering, yet MS will make more money in those same 10 years.

Mau-Justice

They weren't late, MS abandoned the first X-Box and jumped in early.

Sony Computer Entertainment chairman Kazuo Hirai told the Official PlayStation Magazine that Sony is confident the PlayStation 3 will ultimately sell more consoles than the Xbox 360, slamming Microsoft for making consoles that only last in the market for four or five years, while Sony's stay strong for ten years.

Kaz Hirai told OPM that Microsoft's next-generation system, the Xbox 360, is "something that lacks longevity."

After explaining how Sony's video game consoles, the PlayStation, PS2, and PS3, are all committed to ten-year life cycles, while Microsoft's consoles don't reach half that lifespan, he said

"...you do the math."

"Unless things go really bad," Hirai said. "There's no way that at the end of a life cycle our competition is going to have a higher install base."

Hirai also revealed that Sony doesn't even consider the Nintendo Wii a real competitor to the PS3.

"they're a different world and we operate in our world."

You can read the full story on CVG here.

Source

What do you guys think?

Sorry if posted before or if wrong section.

You like having to buy a new console after 4 years?

Hirai is an idiot and shouldn't be taken seriously. He's being almost as stupid as Krazy Ken.

And :lol: at not considering Nintendo competition. MS and Sony both better kiss Nintendo's shoes.

Aljosa23

Last time I checked he was SCE CEO...what was it that you do for a living again?

Calling him an "idiot" is plain dumb and ignorant.

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Hirai is an idiot and shouldn't be taken seriously. He's being almost as stupid as Krazy Ken.

And :lol: at not considering Nintendo competition. MS and Sony both better kiss Nintendo's shoes.

1xcalibur1

Last time I checked he was SCE CEO...what was it that you do for a living again?

Calling him an "idiot" is plain dumb and ignorant.

Says the guy who's on friday on a video game forum..Shouldn't you be working young man:roll:

You like having to buy a new console after 4 years?

Tyrant156

[QUOTE="1xcalibur1"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Hirai is an idiot and shouldn't be taken seriously. He's being almost as stupid as Krazy Ken.

And :lol: at not considering Nintendo competition. MS and Sony both better kiss Nintendo's shoes.

foreverflame890

Last time I checked he was SCE CEO...what was it that you do for a living again?

Calling him an "idiot" is plain dumb and ignorant.

Says the guy who's on friday on a video game forum..Shouldn't you be working young man:roll:

I couldnt care less what you think about me.

But I sure as hell dont have the arrogance, audacity and let alone foolishness to call a multi-million-dollar business man an "idiot".

Have some decency and respect for crying out loud.

[QUOTE="Mau-Justice"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"] I don't think Sony is saying they won't have a console the next time MS has one ready, I think what they are saying is that they are planning on supporting PS3 as well.Tyrant156

They weren't late, MS abandoned the first X-Box and jumped in early.

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Hirai is an idiot and shouldn't be taken seriously. He's being almost as stupid as Krazy Ken.

And :lol: at not considering Nintendo competition. MS and Sony both better kiss Nintendo's shoes.

1xcalibur1

Last time I checked he was SCE CEO...what was it that you do for a living again?

Calling him an "idiot" is plain dumb and ignorant.

50 Cent is a millionaire but you probably think he's a genius because he makes more money, right?

[QUOTE="1xcalibur1"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Hirai is an idiot and shouldn't be taken seriously. He's being almost as stupid as Krazy Ken.

And :lol: at not considering Nintendo competition. MS and Sony both better kiss Nintendo's shoes.

Aljosa23

Last time I checked he was SCE CEO...what was it that you do for a living again?

Calling him an "idiot" is plain dumb and ignorant.

50 Cent is a millionaire but you probably think he's a genius because he makes more money, right?

To put it this way: untill you have provided with an IQ test, keep your opinions to yourself.

There arent any words of wisdome there for sure.

why do people keep saying the nintendo isnt in competition with sony?? They make a gaming console, so YES they ARE. Reel_E_Weird

I think he needs to pull his head out of his rear. This Christmas season was a slaughter ever since the 360 price drop. The funny thing is, Sony still nearly matched 360 sales in 2008, since they led them from the start of the year up til the month of the price drop. I really wish these guys would get with the damn program.BobHipJames

[QUOTE="BobHipJames"]I think he needs to pull his head out of his rear. This Christmas season was a slaughter ever since the 360 price drop. The funny thing is, Sony still nearly matched 360 sales in 2008, since they led them from the start of the year up til the month of the price drop. I really wish these guys would get with the damn program.TOAO_Cyrus1

I know I'm asking for alot of criticism for posting this, but might as well.carljohnson3456

why do people keep saying the nintendo isnt in competition with sony?? They make a gaming console, so YES they ARE. Reel_E_Weird

Sony is full of it. I mean obviously they will keep the PS3 on the market as long as the PS2 lasted. You've got to think, they've been getting their asses kicked by the competition this whole Gen. What better way to make that money back? Obviously have the PS3 have a longer life cycle than the XBOX 360. We all know in 3-4 years the next XBOX is coming out, and with that the 360 will be discontinued. Sony knows this, we all know this, it's easy for them to just leave the PS3 on the market and make back the moeny they lost with an extra 3-4 year life cycle. Microsoft does not care if this happens. They've already outsold the first XBOX, add together the next 3-4 years of sales...Regardless what happens they leave in a win win situation and move on to the next console.

Sony already knows they're gonna have to milk the ps3 possibly more than they did the PS2, which is why they come up with "In the end we'll do this" blah blah blah.

Microsoft is not known for milking out of date hardware. Computer related, you name it, they're already beyond a good position with the 360. The 360 will last longer than the first XBOX, but with the success it already has, Microsoft will discontinue it once the next console is out.

Sony is full of it. I mean obviously they will keep the PS3 on the market as long as the PS2 lasted. You've got to think, they've been getting their asses kicked by the competition this whole Gen. What better way to make that money back? Obviously have the PS3 have a longer life cycle than the XBOX 360. We all know in 3-4 years the next XBOX is coming out, and with that the 360 will be discontinued. Sony knows this, we all know this, it's easy for them to just leave the PS3 on the market and make back the moeny they lost with an extra 3-4 year life cycle. Microsoft does not care if this happens. They've already outsold the first XBOX, add together the next 3-4 years of sales...Regardless what happens they leave in a win win situation and move on to the next console.

Sony already knows they're gonna have to milk the ps3 possibly more than they did the PS2, which is why they come up with "In the end we'll do this" blah blah blah.

Microsoft is not known for milking out of date hardware. Computer related, you name it, they're already beyond a good position with the 360. The 360 will last longer than the first XBOX, but with the success it already has, Microsoft will discontinue it once the next console is out.

xsalvioutlawx

Wait so 360 is already succesful and Sony has to milk the PS3? But MS has only sold 8 mill more than the PS3...

Are you surprised? Of course they are going to say that. No company would stand up and say 'We will lose'.

Edit: To xsalvioutlawx,

How did Sony 'milk' the PS2? Why would any company discontinue a console that continues to sell very well? Don't mistake support for 'milking'. Forgive me but I'm happy Sony didn't choose to abandon the PS2 when it reached high sales, thats one of the reasons its such a great console. You can hate Sony, but they handled the PS2 perfectly.

ps3 is a failure Sigmaan

The Xbox was Microsofts first gaming console, so to say that they aren't going to support the 360 for 10yrs is just nonsense.I could see if they had released 2 or 3 consoles and showed a pattern of abandoning them early,but we're judging the lifespan of the 360 by the Xbox's past? I remember when the 360 launched and the Sony execs were calling it Xbox1.5, but now it looks like the tides have turned, only this time Nintendo is quietly leading the pack,followed by the 360, then the PS3. Look,I love my PS3.My Blu rays look stunning on my SONY BRAVIA tv, but I wish these CEOs would stfu.

I wish these CEOs would stfu.godzillavskong