Sony to Announce the PS4 Last.

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]if they come out after xbox then they are done. Unless they are playing on undercutting the competition in price. Thats really the only thing that can do it right now.garland51

I don't think that they can even afford to do so with PS Vita or PS4. They constantly did that with PS3 only because they had all the profits of both PS1 & PS2 lined up to help back them up on some losses with.

vita no ps4 yea. They will have to use the cell again and basically buff up the online.

depends... after all it'll be competing against microsoft next gen.... console.... so, even if they announce it might'll be jst a provo... towards microsoft..

That is, of course, assuming they will release a PS4.Stevo_the_gamer

kinda scary that they are saying this now when just a little while ago they said they dont want to give a big head start to MS next gen. Im thinking PS4 is in doubt, oh yeah so glad.

Makes sense. 2012 is all about Vita launch and those killer PS3 exclusives. (and more to be announced soon).

Nike_Air

I'm doubting they're capable of releasing a new console right now. Maybe they'll surprise us. But I think it would be ok for them to wait it out and release one once PS3 sales fizzle down to near nothing.LovePotionNo9

Quite a few factors that people are overlooking in this debate:

1. What if MS and Nintendo tool their consoles to target the casual audience? The Wii-U's controller is certainly a novel concept and Kinect is keeping the 360 afloat in the face of the growing worldwide fanbase that the PS3 garners this gen.. Not to mention the near complete lack of core-gamer exclusive titles coming from internal MS studios.

2. No BluRay startup costs this time around, nor massive Cell R&D. Think about it. While the process for creating blue laser diodes was at it's most expensive, Sony had to contend with the HD-DVD Association competing for those diodes. This greatly inflated the cost of launching the PS3. The STI partnership with Toshiba and IBM was also a pretty large cost in putting the PS3 on shelves. Now, a BluRay drive is pretty much the same cost in manufacturing that at DVD drive was back in 2004. It is also in-house technology to them which saves a bit of cost from licensing and such.

3. By launching last, whatever technology they do want to run with this time around can also be brought down in price of manufacturing. If you think Sony is launching a $600 console again, you should probably stop eating paint chips. It ain't happening.

Sony is in a position to bake their cake and eat it too by having a powerful system and launch at a competitive price range. They also need this year to establish Vita. It would be against their own interests to not spread their hardware launch cycle. Today, Sony is the heel. Tomorrow, you may be thanking your lucky stars for them.

Quite a few factors that people are overlooking in this debate:

1. What if MS and Nintendo tool their consoles to target the casual audience? The Wii-U's controller is certainly a novel concept and Kinect is keeping the 360 afloat in the face of the growing worldwide fanbase that the PS3 garners this gen.. Not to mention the near complete lack of core-gamer exclusive titles coming from internal MS studios.

2. No BluRay startup costs this time around, nor massive Cell R&D. Think about it. While the process for creating blue laser diodes was at it's most expensive, Sony had to contend with the HD-DVD Association competing for those diodes. This greatly inflated the cost of launching the PS3. The STI partnership with Toshiba and IBM was also a pretty large cost in putting the PS3 on shelves. Now, a BluRay drive is pretty much the same cost in manufacturing that at DVD drive was back in 2004. It is also in-house technology to them which saves a bit of cost from licensing and such.

3. By launching last, whatever technology they do want to run with this time around can also be brought down in price of manufacturing. If you think Sony is launching a $600 console again, you should probably stop eating paint chips. It ain't happening.

Sony is in a position to bake their cake and eat it too by having a powerful system and launch at a competitive price range. They also need this year to establish Vita. It would be against their own interests to not spread their hardware launch cycle. Today, Sony is the heel. Tomorrow, you may be thanking your lucky stars for them.Shewgenja

While true, look at how that's working out for Vita so far.

While true, look at how that's working out for Vita so far.

garland51

The same approach can produce a powerful-enough PS4, with a profitable ecosystem from the get-go, if not on the hardware itself.

If you're talking about how it's selling though - the issue with the Vita is more universal - people will not pay $250 for a gaming handheld.

While true, look at how that's working out for Vita so far.

garland51

Sony have put themselves in a really difficult position.

There will be no PS4 -- they will simply release an update via PSN that will unlock all the untapped power of the Cell in your PS3...67gt500

Keep on dreaming.

Sony to announce last... after they see what the competition is doing and how well it sells. That way they can do the same type of hardware.

Sony to announce last... after they see what the competition is doing and how well it sells. That way they can do the same type of hardware.

Phazevariance

I play my PS3 out of guilt for not playing it often enough more than from a compulsion to want to play it.

Fix that.

if they come out after xbox then they are done. Unless they are playing on undercutting the competition in price. Thats really the only thing that can do it right now.eboyishere

Coming out after actually wouldn't be bad. The PS3 has been pretty successful, and the gap behind Xbox 360 is astonishingly small (around 3 million with both having sold upwards of 60 million units).

If they release late, but can manage to keep a good price and a stable of decent launch games (something the PS3 had issues with), then they'll be fine.

I guess Sony is used to being last.

[QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

Quite a few factors that people are overlooking in this debate:

1. What if MS and Nintendo tool their consoles to target the casual audience? The Wii-U's controller is certainly a novel concept and Kinect is keeping the 360 afloat in the face of the growing worldwide fanbase that the PS3 garners this gen.. Not to mention the near complete lack of core-gamer exclusive titles coming from internal MS studios.

2. No BluRay startup costs this time around, nor massive Cell R&D. Think about it. While the process for creating blue laser diodes was at it's most expensive, Sony had to contend with the HD-DVD Association competing for those diodes. This greatly inflated the cost of launching the PS3. The STI partnership with Toshiba and IBM was also a pretty large cost in putting the PS3 on shelves. Now, a BluRay drive is pretty much the same cost in manufacturing that at DVD drive was back in 2004. It is also in-house technology to them which saves a bit of cost from licensing and such.

3. By launching last, whatever technology they do want to run with this time around can also be brought down in price of manufacturing. If you think Sony is launching a $600 console again, you should probably stop eating paint chips. It ain't happening.

Sony is in a position to bake their cake and eat it too by having a powerful system and launch at a competitive price range. They also need this year to establish Vita. It would be against their own interests to not spread their hardware launch cycle. Today, Sony is the heel. Tomorrow, you may be thanking your lucky stars for them.garland51

While true, look at how that's working out for Vita so far.

I guess Sony is used to being last.

ForzaGearsFace

the ps4 has to release last so that sony can get ideas on what to put in it.

people may want wii type controllers or achievements and none of us really expect them to come up with ideas like that in house do we?

Riverwolf007

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

the ps4 has to release last so that sony can get ideas on what to put in it.

people may want wii type controllers or achievements and none of us really expect them to come up with ideas like that in house do we?

tormentos

Ahh, so the took the SP's advice :o well, I wasn't paid so I can't be held accountable for any negative outcome with this move but should it prove to be the overwhelmingly positive, profitable move, I stand prepared to take full credit and who knows, ya might even here me let out an approving moo or two. :twisted: :P

Ahh, so the took the SP's advice :o well, I wasn't paid so I can't be held accountable for any negative outcome with this move but should it prove to be the overwhelmingly positive, profitable move, I stand prepared to take full credit and who knows, ya might even here me let out an approving moo or two. :twisted: :P

SecretPolice

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Ahh, so the took the SP's advice :o well, I wasn't paid so I can't be held accountable for any negative outcome with this move but should it prove to be the overwhelmingly positive, profitable move, I stand prepared to take full credit and who knows, ya might even here me let out an approving moo or two. :twisted: :P

delta3074

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