Sony will earn $2-3 for every Xbox One sold

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#1 ShadowsDemon
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This is pure gold

So M$ has finally decided to go to Blu-ray like Sony did. That's cute, and about 8 years too late. At least Sony will be getting a few bucks per sale. What say you?

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Great system wars material! COMMENCE YE WARRIORS!!!
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#3 Murderstyle75
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Remember when Lems hated Blu-Ray?
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#4 Chutebox  Online
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I'm sure MS makes more than that for every Vaio sold.

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The domination truly has won.
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#6 ShadowsDemon
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Remember when Lems hated Blu-Ray?Murderstyle75
Of course they did. I remember when they said that Blu-ray quality isn't even up to DVD standards. Very amusing. :)
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The amount they pay for HDMI is greater.
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#8 Heil68
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Remember when Lems hated Blu-Ray?Murderstyle75
Apparently it wasn't needed back then but now it is...
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#9 Mr-Kutaragi
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"But but but Sony has nothing do with bluray!!1" A couple thousand dollar is drop in bucket. Probably would have made more of wii u, if they didn't bypass.
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#10 kingtito
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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]Remember when Lems hated Blu-Ray?ShadowsDemon
Of course they did. I remember when they said that Blu-ray quality isn't even up to DVD standards. Very amusing. :)

Let's go around making sh!t up. Lems never said anything about BR quality. They said it wasn't needed for gaming and they were right. The article isn't even confirmed and it doesn't even have a source other than "Patcher said so". Sony doesn't even own BR, they're only part of the owners group. I highly doubt they'd get that much especially with all the other owners involved.
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#11 Far_RockNYC
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And sony pays MS for windows and rumble 

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#12 kingtito
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[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"]"But but but Sony has nothing do with bluray!!1" A couple thousand dollar is drop in bucket. Probably would have made more of wii u, if they didn't bypass.

Why are you cows always making sh!t up? Lems never said Sony didn't have anything to do with BR. They said they didn't own the rights and they don't. They're only part owners along with a bunch of other companies.
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And sony pays MS for windows and rumble 

Far_RockNYC
They don't pay MS for rumble.
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#14 dercoo
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So in theory, Sony is profiting more than Microsoft on early Xbox One sales...

Intresting....

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The article states microsoft would have to pay 150 million to 200 million to sony, how hilarious. Will be even more hilarious if xbox one suffers red ring cause them to pay sony even more haha
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#16 Mr-Kutaragi
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[QUOTE="Far_RockNYC"]

And sony pays MS for windows and rumble 

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They don't pay MS for rumble.

MS invent everything, do you forget? They invent motion camera gaming, videogame controller, FPS, gaming online. Now they invent cloud service and dedicated server. :lol:
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#17 cheesie253
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The BD group consists of what? 15 or so companies. Sony will receive a percentage of that licensing fee. (Assuming $3 is the fee Sony would get about 20 cents on each system sold) A lot of money on the millions of consoles that will sell but nowhere near what you were implying Sony would receive.
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#18 Ly_the_Fairy
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The BD group consists of what? 15 or so companies. Sony will receive a percentage of that licensing fee. So lets say it is $3 a system. 15% of $3 is 45 cents. A lot of money on the millions of consoles that will sell but nowhere near what you were implying Sony would receive. cheesie253

Yeah.

It's doubtful Sony gets $3 when the group consists of so many companies. Probably a portion of $3.

Though factoring in game sales, I'm sure there are a few pennies per software sold in it for Sony as well.

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#19 kingtito
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The BD group consists of what? 15 or so companies. Sony will receive a percentage of that licensing fee. So lets say it is $3 a system. 15% of $3 is 45 cents. A lot of money on the millions of consoles that will sell but nowhere near what you were implying Sony would receive. cheesie253
QFT but cows are so lame, they believe every article that comes out. Unless it's an article bad mouthing Sony of course.
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#20 cheesie253
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My math was wrong long day. It's more like 20 cents a system. Also there are 17 companies involved and that makes it even less. Assuming they are equal partners.
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#21 glez13
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Wasn't it the same with DVD?

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#22 Mr-Kutaragi
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The BD group consists of what? 15 or so companies. Sony will receive a percentage of that licensing fee. (Assuming $3 is the fee Sony would get about 20 cents on each system sold) A lot of money on the millions of consoles that will sell but nowhere near what you were implying Sony would receive. cheesie253
lol edit twice due to bad math. This is what Pachter is paid for. You assume he already doesn't account for partners.
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#23 cheesie253
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And? Still doesn't change the fact that Sony is not getting three dollars per system but only about 20 cents. That's many many millions of difference.
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#24 BeardMaster
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[QUOTE="cheesie253"]The BD group consists of what? 15 or so companies. Sony will receive a percentage of that licensing fee. So lets say it is $3 a system. 15% of $3 is 45 cents. A lot of money on the millions of consoles that will sell but nowhere near what you were implying Sony would receive. Ly_the_Fairy

Yeah.

It's doubtful Sony gets $3 when the group consists of so many companies. Probably a portion of $3.

Though factoring in game sales, I'm sure there are a few pennies per software sold in it for Sony as well.

 

doing a google search it appears that the blu ray licensing fee was $9.50 per player in 2009. If its still the same Pachter might have already done the math and estimates Sony gets approx 25% of that fee.

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[QUOTE="cheesie253"]The BD group consists of what? 15 or so companies. Sony will receive a percentage of that licensing fee. (Assuming $3 is the fee Sony would get about 20 cents on each system sold) A lot of money on the millions of consoles that will sell but nowhere near what you were implying Sony would receive. Mr-Kutaragi
lol edit twice due to bad math. This is what Pachter is paid for. You assume he already doesn't account for partners.

Microsoft is not paying $45 in licensing fees for Bluray with every console that they sell. That's far more than the Bluray drive costs them...
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cows have been owned :lol:
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#27 cheesie253
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If its $9.50 per system that is still much much less than the $3 TC stated. That's about 56 cents per partner. Also there are 18 board members and over 50 contributors to the group overall. Who knows what Sonys actual percentage cut of the $9.50 fee is.
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#28 campzor
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so microsoft is continuing to be sony's b!tch, even into the next generation. Impressive.
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#29 cheesie253
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And Sony is MS 8!tch for every copy of windows used on their computers. Impressive.
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The BD group consists of what? 15 or so companies. Sony will receive a percentage of that licensing fee. (Assuming $3 is the fee Sony would get about 20 cents on each system sold) A lot of money on the millions of consoles that will sell but nowhere near what you were implying Sony would receive. cheesie253

 

There's around 50 companies so Sony get a few Cent at most.

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#31 cheesie253
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Correct. I updated a post stating there are 18 companies on the board and over 50 contributors.
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#32 CanYouDiglt
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Doesn't Vita have Skype also?That is owned by Microsoft.

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cows have been owned :lol:mems_1224
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#34 Newhopes
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Doesn't Vita have Skype also?That is owned by Microsoft.

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Yup and things like their PC's also use stuff like windows, it's just idiots on those forums who think licensing means anything.

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#35 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]Remember when Lems hated Blu-Ray?kingtito
Of course they did. I remember when they said that Blu-ray quality isn't even up to DVD standards. Very amusing. :)

Let's go around making sh!t up. Lems never said anything about BR quality. They said it wasn't needed for gaming and they were right. The article isn't even confirmed and it doesn't even have a source other than "Patcher said so". Sony doesn't even own BR, they're only part of the owners group. I highly doubt they'd get that much especially with all the other owners involved.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we always "make" $hit up. Since I've been online and had a PS3 I've seen lems, cows, sheep and hermits b!tch about everything under the sun, especially the BR quality and how bad it is, etc. Hell, I even know people IRL who have said it. So please, stop with your umbrella definitions and generalizations, or that umbrella will have to turn into a flame-shield/umbrella very, very quickly.
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[QUOTE="cheesie253"]The BD group consists of what? 15 or so companies. Sony will receive a percentage of that licensing fee. (Assuming $3 is the fee Sony would get about 20 cents on each system sold) A lot of money on the millions of consoles that will sell but nowhere near what you were implying Sony would receive. Newhopes

 

There's around 50 companies so Sony get a few Cent at most.

You are aware that there are several tiers of investment in Blu Ray, and even in the same tier there is unequal share ownership.

Sony, Panasonic and Philips are the 3 biggest contributors & share holders in Blu-Ray.

They get a disportionatly larger split of any licensing profit.

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[QUOTE="Newhopes"]

[QUOTE="cheesie253"]The BD group consists of what? 15 or so companies. Sony will receive a percentage of that licensing fee. (Assuming $3 is the fee Sony would get about 20 cents on each system sold) A lot of money on the millions of consoles that will sell but nowhere near what you were implying Sony would receive. dercoo

 

There's around 50 companies so Sony get a few Cent at most.

You are aware that there are several tiers of investment in Blu Ray, and even in the same tier there is unequal share ownership.

Sony, Panasonic and Philips are the 3 biggest contributors & share holders in Blu-Ray.

They get a disportionatly larger split of any licensing profit.

There's 18 major holders and 50 odd minor holders.

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#38 moistsandwich
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NOPE... Sony will only get a fraction of that $2-$3 from every Blu-Ray player sale... they have a multitude of other companies to share it with. Pachter is wrong. Surprise surprise.

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Remember when Lems hated Blu-Ray?Murderstyle75
Did we? I was always envious. Always wanted a Blu-Ray player. Thank god they finally put one in a real system.
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That's cheap for sex.

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#41 ShaineTheNerd
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Sony gets money for each Xbox One sold, while Microsoft gets money for every new computer the Sony first-party developers buy and install Windows on. Nice trade off.
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#42 gamebreakerz__
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And Sony has to pay MS for games, since, you know, THE X1 HAS SOME.

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Very informative and non biased post, thank you for your contribution.
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#43 dercoo
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[QUOTE="dercoo"]

[QUOTE="Newhopes"]

 

There's around 50 companies so Sony get a few Cent at most.

Newhopes

You are aware that there are several tiers of investment in Blu Ray, and even in the same tier there is unequal share ownership.

Sony, Panasonic and Philips are the 3 biggest contributors & share holders in Blu-Ray.

They get a disportionatly larger split of any licensing profit.

There's 18 major holders and 50 odd minor holders.

Major holders =/= Equal holders.

Sony, Panasonic and Philips are the key & majority players.

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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

And Sony has to pay MS for games, since, you know, THE X1 HAS SOME.

gamebreakerz__

Very informative and non biased post, thank you for your contribution.

 

The feeling is mutual.

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#46 ShaineTheNerd
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And Sony has to pay MS for games, since, you know, THE X1 HAS SOME.

GOGOGOGURT
They also have to pay Nintendo, Apple and Google, because THEY ALL HAVE GAMES!!1!
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yup
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#48 Cranler
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Sony gets money for each Xbox One sold, while Microsoft gets money for every new computer the Sony first-party developers buy and install Windows on. Nice trade off. ShaineTheNerd
A few cents per xbox one vs the $50 or more that MS gets per sony pc sold isnt a tradeoff.
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#49 ShaineTheNerd
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Would you be pissed if I told you MS made money for every Android phone sold?magicalclick
Let me guess, MS also gets money from Windows Phones? Jk, but on a serious note, is the phone on your signature a sign you have a Windows phone? Are they good?
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#50 ShaineTheNerd
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[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"]Sony gets money for each Xbox One sold, while Microsoft gets money for every new computer the Sony first-party developers buy and install Windows on. Nice trade off. Cranler
A few cents per xbox one vs the $50 or more that MS gets per sony pc sold isnt a tradeoff.

This guy got it! Bravo, sir. I expected a cow stating Sony came out on top there.