I've seen a few of these threads. Do you really believe this? Or want this? Isn't a competitive market a good thing?
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I've seen a few of these threads. Do you really believe this? Or want this? Isn't a competitive market a good thing?
clone01
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I think the Playstation brand is safe for a while. It is one of their few divisions still turning a profit. Sony may eventually go under if they stay on their current track. If they do, however, The Playstation division will be one of the last if not the last divisions to disappear. So all in all I think we will see some of Sony's assets be sold away, but not The Playstation.
OH MY GOD!!!! I cant believe you are back. OH LAWD!!!! Plz, no..........hope so . it would be good for the gaming business.
ForzaGearsFace
[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]OH MY GOD!!!! I cant believe you are back. OH LAWD!!!! Plz, no..........hope so . it would be good for the gaming business.
Nengo_Flow
dont know who you are, probably one of my fans, its ok to be unknown.
I don't think so because they have many other things that generate them money besides games but just in case I'm only buying Sony consoles to do my part to help them. Heil68I think this is where a lot of people are getting mixed up. Sony has a whole company is losing money not just Sony gaming.
[QUOTE="Heil68"]I don't think so because they have many other things that generate them money besides games but just in case I'm only buying Sony consoles to do my part to help them. HarlockJCI think this is where a lot of people are getting mixed up. Sony has a whole company is losing money not just Sony gaming.
they are but with VITA looking to become a flop, and the emergence of a clearly stronger competition in Nintendo and Microsoft, its looking like lights out. WHY WOULD SONY EVEN TRY NEXT GEN WITH PS4? They have no chance....
Look at how sharply quality and competition went down after sega left the gaming market (talking about them not being a part of this gen), if sony left it would be over for console gaming.
Some people may think it's cute to want sony to fail but with MS charging $60 a year for online now, with sony gone...forget about it, expect a monthly mandatory charge to play gamesonline or a ridiclious annual fee of over $100. that would probably just be the beginning. The jury is out on what ever nintendo is going to do, I have no clue.
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SONY gaming devision is one of the few profitable devisions in the company
mmmwksil
Odd, seeing as how all I ever hear is them losing money.
But then again, I don't care enough to check the facts.
I think you're letting SW get into your head a little :P
I think this is where a lot of people are getting mixed up. Sony has a whole company is losing money not just Sony gaming.[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="Heil68"]I don't think so because they have many other things that generate them money besides games but just in case I'm only buying Sony consoles to do my part to help them. ForzaGearsFace
they are but with VITA looking to become a flop, and the emergence of a clearly stronger competition in Nintendo and Microsoft, its looking like lights out. WHY WOULD SONY EVEN TRY NEXT GEN WITH PS4? They have no chance....
They have a very good chance. If they understand Games alone don't make a system successful. To have a successful system you have to have some kind of gimmick. The PS2 it was the DVD player, the 360 it's the Online then Kinect and the Wii it's the motion controls.[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"] I think this is where a lot of people are getting mixed up. Sony has a whole company is losing money not just Sony gaming. HarlockJC
they are but with VITA looking to become a flop, and the emergence of a clearly stronger competition in Nintendo and Microsoft, its looking like lights out. WHY WOULD SONY EVEN TRY NEXT GEN WITH PS4? They have no chance....
They have a very good chance. If they understand Games alone don't make a system successful. To have a successful system you have to have some kind of gimmick. The PS2 it was the DVD player, the 360 it's the Online then Kinect and the Wii it's the motion controls.how is PS4 going to match Kinect? Xbox live? and Microsoft having brandname recognition going into this gen on their side? HOW? Im much more qualified than most to predict on this, so to be honest, I really dont care what anyone has to say. I know I will be right, hopefully SONY will look at the whole picture and not make a PS4.
-I do believe it could happen. Anyone that does not think they are in a danger zone is lying to themselves. Could they turn things around? Of course they can but it is going to be a long road. 4 years of posting lost profits, credit score has been downgraded, $13 billion in debt, Stocks have really taken a dive for the worst, ect.I've seen a few of these threads. Do you really believe this? Or want this? Isn't a competitive market a good thing?
clone01
-Companies big and small have failed over the years because of one reason or another. Life goes on and and yes so will gaming.
I'm just a legacy to another poster who used to this (Chris_Williams) but stopped and put "Sony is doomed" in his sig instead. I'm just gonna stop feeding you.[QUOTE="shadowchronicle"]It really isn't that hard to tell especially since you put no effort into posting this in every sony doom thread.Eponique
Doubt Sony will go under but its possible their playstation brand might. I wouldnt be surprised if the next console was not even called Playstation.
I don't expect this from you Clone, I thought you were a fair and balanced poster, your the only one on here who makes sense, not crazy people like me. :P
But no, nobody is going anywhere. Sony has been making a profit ever since they released the Slim model, they were losing it with the PS3 fat and they lost some money with the hack thing. But overall they have done pretty well this gen, MS is similar, they lost alot of money with the RROD fiasco. But they also made it too.
What lemmins and sheep don't realise is that competition is good, they are the reason why these systemsimprove and why we get better games. Let's go over a few scenerios:
MS is the only one: Xbox Live fee jumps up to INSANE price, like $100a year or something. They never fix the RROD or other system issues because they have no need to do so, you HAVE to buy their system.MS screws over thier fanbase even more so by nickel and diming them on every little thing (they kinda do that now) but on a grand scale, like charging for updates and other pointless stuff. They also don't push forward with any tech or good games, so that would be the world lemmings live in.
Nintendo is the only one: They never push hardware and your stuck with mostly gimmicky games. There would be no great games like Skyrim or RDR, or just about any other 3rd party game because their system wouldn't be able to handle it. Online gameplay would be a joke and there would be no voice chat or friends list or anything, also the systems would never get more powerful beyond the Wii and you would never see games with great graphics. This is the world that Sheep would live in
Sony is the only one: There would be awesome parties every night and all the cool people would be lauhing at everyone else :P Na, but what would really happen is that Sony would release MASSVELY over priced systems like the PS3 fat, but even more pricey. They would also have never improved PSN to where it is now, so it would have remained to the part where it was at launch, lacking many features and terrible unintegreated. They would also charge for online play considerin that they would be the only one around. Also they wouldn't be releasing all the great games like Uncharted or Killzone ect... they would have no reason to do that. They alerady have your money, this is the world where Cows would live in.
So what's the lesson kids? Competition is a GOOD thing, and if one of them left the business we would all get hurt. But thankfully everyone is doing fine, and we will all see them next gen. They will all make great things, but Sony makes the best, I get paid to say that, so get over it.
Of course they will not go under, they will need to downsize though, they just posted there 4th consecutive annual loss, they are 13 mbillion in debt and there market cap is only 17 billion, there games division will not go under it is one of the few profit making divisions they have left, they need to lose there TV and mobile phone divisions as that is where they are losing the most money, selling there stake in LCD TV's was a wise move, buying out erricson was not such a smart move as they will get hammered by apple and sumsung, they have 168 billion in assets so they have a lot to sell to get themselves through this, SONY will survive, they will not go under but they will become a smaller company.delta3074
lol no, your wrong. They are making a profit just like MS, they lost some money (just like MS) but also made profit aswell (just like MS). Your numbers and everything is wrong, they arn't going to downsize.
[QUOTE="delta3074"]Of course they will not go under, they will need to downsize though, they just posted there 4th consecutive annual loss, they are 13 mbillion in debt and there market cap is only 17 billion, there games division will not go under it is one of the few profit making divisions they have left, they need to lose there TV and mobile phone divisions as that is where they are losing the most money, selling there stake in LCD TV's was a wise move, buying out erricson was not such a smart move as they will get hammered by apple and sumsung, they have 168 billion in assets so they have a lot to sell to get themselves through this, SONY will survive, they will not go under but they will become a smaller company.ShadowMoses900
lol no, your wrong. They are making a profit just like MS, they lost some money (just like MS) but also made profit aswell (just like MS). Your numbers and everything is wrong, they arn't going to downsize.
http://truthdive.com/2011/11/03/sony-warns-of-4th-annual-loss.html http://advanced-television.com/index.php/2011/11/02/sony-warns-of-4th-annual-loss/ http://www.financial-news.co.uk/3446/2011/11/sony-warns-on-fourth-annual-loss-as-tv-sales-plummet/ http://in.mobile.reuters.com/article/article/idINL4E7M22KN20111102 http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-12-26/hardware/30558565_1_lcd-panels-sony-shares-sony-corp They are alredy downsizing, and you are a good bloke but you need to do your research sunshine, they have been loosing money for 4 straight years runningI don't think so because they have many other things that generate them money besides games but just in case I'm only buying Sony consoles to do my part to help them.Heil68
yep, same here.
i got yo back Sony
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"][QUOTE="delta3074"]Of course they will not go under, they will need to downsize though, they just posted there 4th consecutive annual loss, they are 13 mbillion in debt and there market cap is only 17 billion, there games division will not go under it is one of the few profit making divisions they have left, they need to lose there TV and mobile phone divisions as that is where they are losing the most money, selling there stake in LCD TV's was a wise move, buying out erricson was not such a smart move as they will get hammered by apple and sumsung, they have 168 billion in assets so they have a lot to sell to get themselves through this, SONY will survive, they will not go under but they will become a smaller company.delta3074
lol no, your wrong. They are making a profit just like MS, they lost some money (just like MS) but also made profit aswell (just like MS). Your numbers and everything is wrong, they arn't going to downsize.
http://truthdive.com/2011/11/03/sony-warns-of-4th-annual-loss.html http://advanced-television.com/index.php/2011/11/02/sony-warns-of-4th-annual-loss/ http://www.financial-news.co.uk/3446/2011/11/sony-warns-on-fourth-annual-loss-as-tv-sales-plummet/ http://in.mobile.reuters.com/article/article/idINL4E7M22KN20111102 http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-12-26/hardware/30558565_1_lcd-panels-sony-shares-sony-corp They are alredy downsizing, and you are a good bloke but you need to do your research sunshine, they have been loosing money for 4 straight years runningI could just as easily find some dumb links to sites that say MS or Wal Mart is losing, doesn't prove anything. I could just as easliy find the opposite if I wanted to.
hope so . it would be good for the gaming business.
ForzaGearsFace
You must be very stupid and probably some 10 year old acting to be smart, you dont get how big it is if a company goes under do you? do you know how many people will lose their jobs? how many have families? of course you dont so let me tell you its millions and millions, you should ALWAYS hope for the best dumbass, even if its a company you hate always wish them the best, they deserve as much support as possible, at least SONY is actually bringing new things and new products unlike MoneySukcingSoft. hope no company goes under.
I think the only legit reason to hope sony goes under is to make cows, the most annoying fanboy faction EVER, cry and weep like a little girl who dropped her snowcone.
http://truthdive.com/2011/11/03/sony-warns-of-4th-annual-loss.html http://advanced-television.com/index.php/2011/11/02/sony-warns-of-4th-annual-loss/ http://www.financial-news.co.uk/3446/2011/11/sony-warns-on-fourth-annual-loss-as-tv-sales-plummet/ http://in.mobile.reuters.com/article/article/idINL4E7M22KN20111102 http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-12-26/hardware/30558565_1_lcd-panels-sony-shares-sony-corp They are alredy downsizing, and you are a good bloke but you need to do your research sunshine, they have been loosing money for 4 straight years running[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
lol no, your wrong. They are making a profit just like MS, they lost some money (just like MS) but also made profit aswell (just like MS). Your numbers and everything is wrong, they arn't going to downsize.
ShadowMoses900
I could just as easily find some dumb links to sites that say MS or Wal Mart is losing, doesn't prove anything. I could just as easliy find the opposite if I wanted to.
Are you really that blinded by the love for Sony or are you just trolling?
-4 years posting loses in profit
-stocks have dropped by 51% in the last year
-$13 billion in debt
-credit score was just downgraded
-They are selling off assests like Spiderman merchandising and LSD because they need money fast
-revenue growth is negative 9%
This list could go on but the bottom line is Sony is in a very bad state. They are not making anything that is leading in any of the products including gaming.
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