Sony's 1st party has deteriorated a shocking amount in recent years

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#151 lamprey263
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I think the quality of Sony's studios mostly suffered though do to the complexities of programming for the Cell. Sony pretty much killed themselves with that. Making PS3 games took more time, money, personnel, was plagued with technical challenges. They probably took a few third parties down with them as well. They had to spend less time on the creative development of games and more times working around it's demanding architecture. I'm sure whatever studios did survive can't wait to work on a system that isn't such a burden. I think all games will improve this next gen, not just because of the increased power new systems afford, but the ease of developing means more time working on the creative aspects of game development. And things won't be good for just Sony in this regard, it'll be better for everyone, as makers of third party multiplatform game development efforts will not longer have the PS3 being the ball and chain that prevents their games from reaching their full potential.
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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="NationProtector"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] Still console exclusive though. If we must get technical, that would also mean games like Alan Wake aren't exclusive either because playing on a Vaio makes them part of the Sony family as well. PC is open source and just like Sony not getting royalties playing on their brand name PC's, Microsoft doesnt see a penny from them running on Windows either.

No, you are using microsoft software to run the game, if you used actual logic, it would be MS family still. Also, console exclusives don't matter here, they never had, why do you want to change the rules all of a sudden? There are also quite a few PC games that MS had/is seeing money from in certain programs and publishing, and GFWL.

Yet these games are still not selling copies of Windows. Regardless of whether or not the person playing it would have bought a gaming PC or a Walmart special just for social networking, they would still be using the same exact copy of Windows. Windows was on the Dreamcast as well. Did that make Powerstone and Blue Stinger part of Segas family or part of Microsofts? If anybody benefits from PC games, its the hardware companies.

Assuming that people who built their PC's or wants to play games never once brought a Windows OS disc.
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#153 BigBoss255
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Naughty Dog, Guerilla, Team Ico, Polyphony, San Diego, Media Molecule, Santa Monica. Sucker Punch have all put out AAA games on Metacritic in the past. Worry about MS, the only AAA dev they have is Turn 10.
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Its been HUGELY downgraded during the PS3 generation and will probably only get worse with Sonys obsession on indie games. Cows act like its untouchable when that couldn't be further from the truth.

SCE Japan Studio - Working on Knack LOL
Team Ico - ..... :lol:
Polyphony Digital - ...... Are now second to Turn 10. Takes them 6 years just to make a new game, despite being filled with old assets. Last game a huge flop.
Naughy Gods - Sonys best dev studio
SCE Santa Monica - Their second best, but their only quality games have been God of War games so far. Yawn.
SCE San Diego - MLBLOL
SCE Bend - Portable garbage
Sucker Punch - AA studio at best
SCE London - Casual trash like Buzz
Evolution - AA studio at best
Guerilla - AA studio at best
Media Molecule - working on PS Move trash

Incognito Entertainment - Closed down.
Lightbox Interactive - Cut ties with Sony. No sequel to Warhawk or Starhawk for you.
SCE Liverpool - Closed down. No Wipeout for you.
Zipper Interactive - Closed down. No SOCOM for you.
Superbot - Cut ties with Sony. No Playstations Allstars sequel for you.
Eat Sleep Play - Cut ties with Sony. No Twisted Metal for you.
That GameCompany - Multiplat now
Insomniac - Multiplat now

So from all that, there are 2 AAA calbire studios?

I'm just wondering where these 20 AAA blockbuster games are being developed that are supposedly coming from Sony in the first year? (or so cows keep telling me)

So far theres Killzone, Knack, Drive Club, The Order and Infamous. Thats 5.

RR360DD

Yea,but you're like....really biased..........so you can f**k off.:lol:

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[QUOTE="NationProtector"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="NationProtector"] No, you are using microsoft software to run the game, if you used actual logic, it would be MS family still. Also, console exclusives don't matter here, they never had, why do you want to change the rules all of a sudden? There are also quite a few PC games that MS had/is seeing money from in certain programs and publishing, and GFWL.

Yet these games are still not selling copies of Windows. Regardless of whether or not the person playing it would have bought a gaming PC or a Walmart special just for social networking, they would still be using the same exact copy of Windows. Windows was on the Dreamcast as well. Did that make Powerstone and Blue Stinger part of Segas family or part of Microsofts? If anybody benefits from PC games, its the hardware companies.

Assuming that people who built their PC's or wants to play games never once brought a Windows OS disc.

Even if they bought an OEM disc for a gaming PC instead of a $300 Walmart bundle for media, they still paid for the same copy of Windows.
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lol, this thread reeks of desperation lol.II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]lol, this thread reeks of desperation lol.Chutebox

I think the TC knows what's coming at Gamescom from Sony. This is early DC.

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Naughty Dog, Guerilla, Team Ico, Polyphony, San Diego, Media Molecule, Santa Monica. Sucker Punch have all put out AAA games on Metacritic in the past. Worry about MS, the only AAA dev they have is Turn 10. BigBoss255

Guerilla - only ONE AAA game and that was 4 years ago

Team Ico - Nope they were AA. Also, no games released at all during the PS3 gen :lol:

Polyphony - Only ONE AAA game and that was 12 years ago LMAO

San Diego - When was the last AAA MLB game? 2009?

MM - Too bad theyre working on Move trash lol

Sucker Punch - 4 years since their last AAA. 2 A games since then.

So yeah, as I suspected Sonys 1st party used to be good, but they've deteriorated big time.

:cool:

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[QUOTE="NationProtector"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] No, you are using microsoft software to run the game, if you used actual logic, it would be MS family still. Also, console exclusives don't matter here, they never had, why do you want to change the rules all of a sudden? There are also quite a few PC games that MS had/is seeing money from in certain programs and publishing, and GFWL.

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"]Naughty Dog, Guerilla, Team Ico, Polyphony, San Diego, Media Molecule, Santa Monica. Sucker Punch have all put out AAA games on Metacritic in the past. Worry about MS, the only AAA dev they have is Turn 10. RR360DD

Guerilla - only ONE AAA game and that was 4 years ago

Team Ico - Nope they were AA. Also, no games released at all during the PS3 gen :lol:

Polyphony - Only ONE AAA game and that was 12 years ago LMAO

San Diego - When was the last AAA MLB game? 2009?

MM - Too bad theyre working on Move trash lol

Sucker Punch - 4 years since their last AAA. 2 A games since then.

So yeah, as I suspected Sonys 1st party used to be good, but they've deteriorated big time.

:cool:

SotC was AAA
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#160 comptonst88
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lol R360DD thread.

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[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="NationProtector"]

Naughty Dog, Guerilla, Team Ico, Polyphony, San Diego, Media Molecule, Santa Monica. Sucker Punch have all put out AAA games on Metacritic in the past. Worry about MS, the only AAA dev they have is Turn 10. rjdofu

Guerilla - only ONE AAA game and that was 4 years ago

Team Ico - Nope they were AA. Also, no games released at all during the PS3 gen :lol:

Polyphony - Only ONE AAA game and that was 12 years ago LMAO

San Diego - When was the last AAA MLB game? 2009?

MM - Too bad theyre working on Move trash lol

Sucker Punch - 4 years since their last AAA. 2 A games since then.

So yeah, as I suspected Sonys 1st party used to be good, but they've deteriorated big time.

:cool:

SotC was AAA

Not on Gamespot it wasn't, unless we're flip flopping back to metacritic. Its hard to keep track these days

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[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Guerilla - only ONE AAA game and that was 4 years ago

Team Ico - Nope they were AA. Also, no games released at all during the PS3 gen :lol:

Polyphony - Only ONE AAA game and that was 12 years ago LMAO

San Diego - When was the last AAA MLB game? 2009?

MM - Too bad theyre working on Move trash lol

Sucker Punch - 4 years since their last AAA. 2 A games since then.

So yeah, as I suspected Sonys 1st party used to be good, but they've deteriorated big time.

:cool:

RR360DD

SotC was AAA

Not on Gamespot it wasn't, unless we're flip flopping back to metacritic. Its hard to keep track these days

Yeah, better just to stick to one.
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lol..

Liquid_

Bumping in case someone didnt see it.

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Its been HUGELY downgraded during the PS3 generation and will probably only get worse with Sonys obsession on indie games. Cows act like its untouchable when that couldn't be further from the truth.

SCE Japan Studio - Working on Knack LOL
Team Ico - ..... :lol:
Polyphony Digital - ...... Are now second to Turn 10. Takes them 6 years just to make a new game, despite being filled with old assets. Last game a huge flop.
Naughy Gods - Sonys best dev studio
SCE Santa Monica - Their second best, but their only quality games have been God of War games so far. Yawn.
SCE San Diego - MLBLOL
SCE Bend - Portable garbage
Sucker Punch - AA studio at best
SCE London - Casual trash like Buzz
Evolution - AA studio at best
Guerilla - AA studio at best
Media Molecule - working on PS Move trash

Incognito Entertainment - Closed down.
Lightbox Interactive - Cut ties with Sony. No sequel to Warhawk or Starhawk for you.
SCE Liverpool - Closed down. No Wipeout for you.
Zipper Interactive - Closed down. No SOCOM for you.
Superbot - Cut ties with Sony. No Playstations Allstars sequel for you.
Eat Sleep Play - Cut ties with Sony. No Twisted Metal for you.
That GameCompany - Multiplat now
Insomniac - Multiplat now

So from all that, there are 2 AAA calbire studios?

I'm just wondering where these 20 AAA blockbuster games are being developed that are supposedly coming from Sony in the first year? (or so cows keep telling me)

So far theres Killzone, Knack, Drive Club, The Order and Infamous. Thats 5.

RR360DD

Why must you crush there spirit? They already have a inferior system that still plays like a PS2. Do you have to rub this in there face as well?

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#165 thewickedgamer
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Microsoft is no better, in fact they are worse. The last few years of the 360 has been nothing but Halo, Gears, Forza. That's boring. MS are scared to take risks and push the envelope. Sony has been pushing new stuff all gen.
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Guerilla - only ONE AAA game and that was 4 years ago

Team Ico - Nope they were AA. Also, no games released at all during the PS3 gen :lol:

Polyphony - Only ONE AAA game and that was 12 years ago LMAO

San Diego - When was the last AAA MLB game? 2009?

MM - Too bad theyre working on Move trash lol

Sucker Punch - 4 years since their last AAA. 2 A games since then.

So yeah, as I suspected Sonys 1st party used to be good, but they've deteriorated big time.

:cool:

RR360DD

SotC was AAA

Not on Gamespot it wasn't, unless we're flip flopping back to metacritic. Its hard to keep track these days

Even M$ themselves uses metacritic. One of their developer polices when deciding whether or not to port a title to their platform is that is must have a meta-critic score of 80 percent or higher. Gamespot can rate a game at a 9 or 10 all they want but its pretty irrelevant to even your Fangod.
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[QUOTE="BigBoss255"]Naughty Dog, Guerilla, Team Ico, Polyphony, San Diego, Media Molecule, Santa Monica. Sucker Punch have all put out AAA games on Metacritic in the past. Worry about MS, the only AAA dev they have is Turn 10. RR360DD

Guerilla - only ONE AAA game and that was 4 years ago

Team Ico - Nope they were AA. Also, no games released at all during the PS3 gen :lol:

Polyphony - Only ONE AAA game and that was 12 years ago LMAO

San Diego - When was the last AAA MLB game? 2009?

MM - Too bad theyre working on Move trash lol

Sucker Punch - 4 years since their last AAA. 2 A games since then.

So yeah, as I suspected Sonys 1st party used to be good, but they've deteriorated big time.

:cool:

You can't judge the quality of an entire company based on what a single website scored their games. All of those devs except Ico have released AAA games on MC this gen and have the potential to do the same next gen. The only first party devs which have truly declined this gen are Lionhead and Rare. Enjoy having inferior 1st and 3rd party games next gen.

The only mediocre dev you listed is Evolution Studio. DriveClub looks awful and I wouldn't be surprised if they don't last this gen.

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#168 Chris_Williams
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you hate sony, why you worried abou their first party

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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"]Naughty Dog, Guerilla, Team Ico, Polyphony, San Diego, Media Molecule, Santa Monica. Sucker Punch have all put out AAA games on Metacritic in the past. Worry about MS, the only AAA dev they have is Turn 10. BigBoss255

Guerilla - only ONE AAA game and that was 4 years ago

Team Ico - Nope they were AA. Also, no games released at all during the PS3 gen :lol:

Polyphony - Only ONE AAA game and that was 12 years ago LMAO

San Diego - When was the last AAA MLB game? 2009?

MM - Too bad theyre working on Move trash lol

Sucker Punch - 4 years since their last AAA. 2 A games since then.

So yeah, as I suspected Sonys 1st party used to be good, but they've deteriorated big time.

:cool:

You can't judge the quality of an entire company based on what a single website scored their games. All of those devs except Ico have released AAA games on MC this gen and have the potential to do the same next gen. The only first party devs which have truly declined this gen are Lionhead and Rare. Enjoy having inferior 1st and 3rd party games next gen.

It was actually Microsofts fault that both of those studios declined the way they did forcing their big names to leave those companies. Even worse, Microsoft has used that M$ Kinect doucher, Scott Henson to lead both companies as a replacement for both the Stampers and Peter Molyneux.
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[QUOTE="BigBoss255"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Guerilla - only ONE AAA game and that was 4 years ago

Team Ico - Nope they were AA. Also, no games released at all during the PS3 gen :lol:

Polyphony - Only ONE AAA game and that was 12 years ago LMAO

San Diego - When was the last AAA MLB game? 2009?

MM - Too bad theyre working on Move trash lol

Sucker Punch - 4 years since their last AAA. 2 A games since then.

So yeah, as I suspected Sonys 1st party used to be good, but they've deteriorated big time.

:cool:

Murderstyle75
You can't judge the quality of an entire company based on what a single website scored their games. All of those devs except Ico have released AAA games on MC this gen and have the potential to do the same next gen. The only first party devs which have truly declined this gen are Lionhead and Rare. Enjoy having inferior 1st and 3rd party games next gen.

It was actually Microsofts fault that both of those studios declined the way they did forcing their big names to leave those companies. Even worse, Microsoft has used that M$ Kinect doucher, Scott Henson to lead both companies as a replacement for both the Stampers and Peter Molyneux.

Incorrect, Rare was already dead, unless you think SF:A on the gC and those GBA games were some class A titles.
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an awful thread by an awful poster

 

It is sad too because RR360D was a decent poster (one of the better posters) 10 levels earlier. Its like he had to take Loosingends place.

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#172 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"]Naughty Dog, Guerilla, Team Ico, Polyphony, San Diego, Media Molecule, Santa Monica. Sucker Punch have all put out AAA games on Metacritic in the past. Worry about MS, the only AAA dev they have is Turn 10. BigBoss255

Guerilla - only ONE AAA game and that was 4 years ago

Team Ico - Nope they were AA. Also, no games released at all during the PS3 gen :lol:

Polyphony - Only ONE AAA game and that was 12 years ago LMAO

San Diego - When was the last AAA MLB game? 2009?

MM - Too bad theyre working on Move trash lol

Sucker Punch - 4 years since their last AAA. 2 A games since then.

So yeah, as I suspected Sonys 1st party used to be good, but they've deteriorated big time.

:cool:

You can't judge the quality of an entire company based on what a single website scored their games. All of those devs except Ico have released AAA games on MC this gen and have the potential to do the same next gen. The only first party devs which have truly declined this gen are Lionhead and Rare. Enjoy having inferior 1st and 3rd party games next gen.

The only mediocre dev you listed is Evolution Studio. DriveClub looks awful and I wouldn't be surprised if they don't last this gen.

As you said, Team Ico no games.

Sucker Punch - no AAA games on meta.

Polyphony - no AAA games on meta.

Evolution - no AAA on meta

Seems you have a jaded view of Sonys 1st party ... like most cows.

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[QUOTE="NationProtector"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="BigBoss255"] You can't judge the quality of an entire company based on what a single website scored their games. All of those devs except Ico have released AAA games on MC this gen and have the potential to do the same next gen. The only first party devs which have truly declined this gen are Lionhead and Rare. Enjoy having inferior 1st and 3rd party games next gen.

It was actually Microsofts fault that both of those studios declined the way they did forcing their big names to leave those companies. Even worse, Microsoft has used that M$ Kinect doucher, Scott Henson to lead both companies as a replacement for both the Stampers and Peter Molyneux.

Incorrect, Rare was already dead, unless you think SF:A on the gC and those GBA games were some class A titles.

Rare still had many of their talents from the N64 days who all quit after Microsoft refused to allow them to work on anything outside of the child's demographic. There were many projects which were given the red light including Killer Instinct because Microsoft was trying to combat the Nintendo Wii craze by using a household Nintendo name.
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#174 Murderstyle75
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an awful thread by an awful poster

 

It is sad too because RR360D was a decent poster (one of the better posters) 10 levels earlier. Its like he had to take Loosingends place.

NEWMAHAY
He reminds me of Robot Apple. Are they two of the same?
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#175 rjdofu
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an awful thread by an awful poster

 

It is sad too because RR360D was a decent poster (one of the better posters) 10 levels earlier. Its like he had to take Loosingends place.

NEWMAHAY

He's just trolling around, so did loosingends, terrible poster is the one like callofdutyrulez or brofist.

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coming from a guy whos system has only one major title release this year.....this thread is weak sauce
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The only bad 1st party is Microsoft.

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#178 RR360DD
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an awful thread by an awful poster

 

It is sad too because RR360D was a decent poster (one of the better posters) 10 levels earlier. Its like he had to take Loosingends place.

NEWMAHAY
Edited 3 times? That you solidty? :cool:
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#179 stereointegrity
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[QUOTE="NEWMAHAY"]

an awful thread by an awful poster

 

It is sad too because RR360D was a decent poster (one of the better posters) 10 levels earlier. Its like he had to take Loosingends place.

RR360DD
Edited 3 times? That you solidty? :cool:

lol robotapple account
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#180 homeboylizard
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TC...you can't be taken seriously talking about which consoles have better exclusives with that sig! Only fellow fanboys will follow you.

You lost every little bit of credibility when you posted that TLoU flopped, and then you are calling a game that isn't even finished(BTS) yet a flop???? You are a poor and see-though troll that creates threads only that backfire and you try to save them.

Only 1st party MS has are:

Turn 10-I give every respect to this dev and what it did with Forza 4 (a good overall racer), but they completelyscrewed up Forza 5 by the looks of it

313i-Halo 4 was probably the worst flop in the entire history of SW. The moment Bungie left to work on Destiny, Halo was done.

Epic- Gears of War 3 was a complete letdown, riding on the coats of 2 memorable games GEOW 1&2

Lionhead-Fable 3 and Journey flopped so hard that no X360 fanboy ever spoke of those games again

___________ ______________________ ________________________ _________________ ________

Sony 1st party devs:

ND-Uncharted 3 lived up to the hype

-The Last of Us was close to being an AAAA..not just AAA

Team ICO-Only reason The Last Guardian didn't come out is because Fumito Ueda was disappointed by Shadow Of The Colossus and means to create the best product he can with The Last Guardian, and probably Sony wanted TLG to be a selling point for PS 4l.

Sucker Punch-I don't recall Infamous 2 to be hyped AAA (nor can I find the hype thread) but it wasn't a great game...I give you that.

Etc.

I don't think that Sony 1st party produced a bad game...like some MS 1st party did.

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#181 Murderstyle75
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TC...you can't be taken seriously talking about which consoles have better exclusives with that sig! Only fellow fanboys will follow you.

You lost every little bit of credibility when you posted that TLoU flopped, and then you are calling a game that isn't even finished(BTS) yet a flop???? You are a poor and see-though troll that creates threads only that backfire and you try to save them.

Only 1st party MS has are:

Turn 10-I give every respect to this dev and what it did with Forza 4 (a good overall racer), but they completelyscrewed up Forza 5 by the looks of it

313i-Halo 4 was probably the worst flop in the entire history of SW. The moment Bungie left to work on Destiny, Halo was done.

Epic- Gears of War 3 was a complete letdown, riding on the coats of 2 memorable games GEOW 1&2

Lionhead-Fable 3 and Journey flopped so hard that no X360 fanboy ever spoke of those games again

___________ ______________________ ________________________ _________________ ________

Sony 1st party devs:

ND-Uncharted 3 lived up to the hype

-The Last of Us was close to being an AAAA..not just AAA

Team ICO-Only reason The Last Guardian didn't come out is because Fumito Ueda was disappointed by Shadow Of The Colossus and means to create the best product he can with The Last Guardian, and probably Sony wanted TLG to be a selling point for PS 4l.

Sucker Punch-I don't recall Infamous 2 to be hyped AAA (nor can I find the hype thread) but it wasn't a great game...I give you that.

Etc.

I don't think that Sony 1st party produced a bad game...like some MS 1st party did.

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Its posters like RR360DD who give the Xbox community a bad name.
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#182 Granny_Spanked
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This thread reaks of butthurt.
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#183 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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At least they have a respectable 1st party contrary to MS

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#184 Arman_Tanzarian
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Iunno bout you guys but everywhere i look there is a new Sony exclusive coming currently on ps3.
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#185 Liquid_
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"][QUOTE="RR360DD"] On Vita.

Haha you just mentioned another sony gaming system (sony's handheld). And its on their cuz they did cross platform. haha

So what :lol: If we count teh 'Sony' exclusives then we can count 'Microsoft' exclusives like State of Decay

PC is microsoft's handeld gaming system? what..?
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#186 RR360DD
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TC...you can't be taken seriously talking about which consoles have better exclusives with that sig! Only fellow fanboys will follow you.

You lost every little bit of credibility when you posted that TLoU flopped, and then you are calling a game that isn't even finished(BTS) yet a flop???? You are a poor and see-though troll that creates threads only that backfire and you try to save them.

Only 1st party MS has are:

Turn 10-I give every respect to this dev and what it did with Forza 4 (a good overall racer), but they completelyscrewed up Forza 5 by the looks of it

313i-Halo 4 was probably the worst flop in the entire history of SW. The moment Bungie left to work on Destiny, Halo was done.

Epic- Gears of War 3 was a complete letdown, riding on the coats of 2 memorable games GEOW 1&2

Lionhead-Fable 3 and Journey flopped so hard that no X360 fanboy ever spoke of those games again

___________ ______________________ ________________________ _________________ ________

Sony 1st party devs:

ND-Uncharted 3 lived up to the hype

-The Last of Us was close to being an AAAA..not just AAA

Team ICO-Only reason The Last Guardian didn't come out is because Fumito Ueda was disappointed by Shadow Of The Colossus and means to create the best product he can with The Last Guardian, and probably Sony wanted TLG to be a selling point for PS 4l.

Sucker Punch-I don't recall Infamous 2 to be hyped AAA (nor can I find the hype thread) but it wasn't a great game...I give you that.

Etc.

I don't think that Sony 1st party produced a bad game...like some MS 1st party did.

homeboylizard

For someone with such a nice sig, you sure are a disappointing.

Try and think of a more constructive reply next time

:cool:

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#187 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"] Haha you just mentioned another sony gaming system (sony's handheld). And its on their cuz they did cross platform. hahaLiquid_
So what :lol: If we count teh 'Sony' exclusives then we can count 'Microsoft' exclusives like State of Decay

PC is microsoft's handeld gaming system? what..?

I believe in a world where if a game is on more than one platform, its not exclusive.

I lowered myself to cow logic in that post, and I apologise for that. The similarities being that Sony publishes games on Vita just as Microsoft publishes games on Windows.

Sorry :cool:

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#188 Mr-Kutaragi
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lol lemming OP just destroy MS first party. :lol:
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#189 stereointegrity
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lol his posts keep getting worse and worse
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#190 Murderstyle75
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[QUOTE="Liquid_"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]So what :lol: If we count teh 'Sony' exclusives then we can count 'Microsoft' exclusives like State of Decay RR360DD

PC is microsoft's handeld gaming system? what..?

I believe in a world where if a game is on more than one platform, its not exclusive.

I lowered myself to cow logic in that post, and I apologise for that. The similarities being that Sony publishes games on Vita just as Microsoft publishes games on Windows.

Sorry :cool:

For one, handheld games are generally nothing like the console versions and secondly, many games on Windows aren't even published by Microsoft. Trials was actually published by Ubisoft. And since Sony makes computers as well, a PC version hardly makes a game a Microsoft Exclusive.
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A lot of sony's PS3's first party exclusives barely interest me anyway.

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#192 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="Liquid_"] PC is microsoft's handeld gaming system? what..?Murderstyle75

I believe in a world where if a game is on more than one platform, its not exclusive.

I lowered myself to cow logic in that post, and I apologise for that. The similarities being that Sony publishes games on Vita just as Microsoft publishes games on Windows.

Sorry :cool:

For one, handheld games are generally nothing like the console versions and secondly, many games on Windows aren't even published by Microsoft. Trials was actually published by Ubisoft. And since Sony makes computers as well, a PC version hardly makes a game a Microsoft Exclusive.

Firstly, PSAllstars and Sly Cooper were pretty much identical.

Secondly, maybe you missed the part where I said I believe that if a game is on more than one platform, its not exclusive.

No point arguing with me brah, it was a cow who brought up the whole playstation family exclusive bullshit, I just played along.

Keep up :cool:

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#193 ultraking
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damn dude. Do you live on gamespot?
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#194 Ninja-Hippo
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Sony's first party was excellent this generation because they had no choice but to pump huge amounts of money into first party development to get games on the shelves and PS3s sold. They thought they'd get 3rd party support right out of the gate but the PS3 was so horrible to develop for and sold so badly to begin with they were in serious trouble for its first year. Remember the 'has no games' meme? It wasn't a lie. People have a short term memory, and forget what a massive sea change the last generation saw in terms of 3rd party support for xbox. Previously the Xbox was floated by Halo, Ninja Gaiden, Tom Clancy games and hit and miss 1st party games. No Final Fantasy, no Devil May Cry, no Metal Gear Solid, no Grand Theft Auto (not until years after release). Now you'd really struggle to find a big third party game that isn't on the xbox. That's why MS's 1st party kinda sucked last gen. That's what you want as a platform holder; to have 3rd party developers do what they do best and make games for your box. It sells itself. Making your own games is far too costly. As soon as the 360 started doing well MS started shutting down studios left right and center. Sony are doing the same now because they know that having that number of 1st party games is completely unsustainable. They cant keep releasing games like Beyond which cost a lot to make and will inevitably sell like crap. Even the best selling games like Uncharted and the Last of Us will be lucky to even break even on costs.
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#195 dream431ca
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Naughty Dog>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>All Microsoft 1st Party

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#196 crimsonman1245
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Sony's first party was excellent this generation because they had no choice but to pump huge amounts of money into first party development to get games on the shelves and PS3s sold. They thought they'd get 3rd party support right out of the gate but the PS3 was so horrible to develop for and sold so badly to begin with they were in serious trouble for its first year. Remember the 'has no games' meme? It wasn't a lie. People have a short term memory, and forget what a massive sea change the last generation saw in terms of 3rd party support for xbox. Previously the Xbox was floated by Halo, Ninja Gaiden, Tom Clancy games and hit and miss 1st party games. No Final Fantasy, no Devil May Cry, no Metal Gear Solid, no Grand Theft Auto (not until years after release). Now you'd really struggle to find a big third party game that isn't on the xbox. That's why MS's 1st party kinda sucked last gen. That's what you want as a platform holder; to have 3rd party developers do what they do best and make games for your box. It sells itself. Making your own games is far too costly. As soon as the 360 started doing well MS started shutting down studios left right and center. Sony are doing the same now because they know that having that number of 1st party games is completely unsustainable. They cant keep releasing games like Beyond which cost a lot to make and will inevitably sell like crap. Even the best selling games like Uncharted and the Last of Us will be lucky to even break even on costs.Ninja-Hippo

Whoa, those games are extremelly expensive to make, but lets not get ahead of ourselves, they are not just breaking even from 5 million sales a game, they make quite a bit from those games.

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#197 Heil68
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I'm still loving the Sony exclusives, main reason I went with PS4 this gen. Greatness awaits. Sony. PS4.
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#198 Arman_Tanzarian
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New here on sw what this lemmings and cows you guys keep talking about? Oh and is everyone here 12 including that baurus Diaw guys
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#199 Murderstyle75
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New here on sw what this lemmings and cows you guys keep talking about? Oh and is everyone here 12 including that baurus Diaw guysArman_Tanzarian
A lemming is an Xbox fanboy while a Cow is a Sony fanboy. But if you were to read the definitions in the SW survival guide, you would see that Lemmings are very much Cows now.
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#200 ultraking
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New here on sw what this lemmings and cows you guys keep talking about? Oh and is everyone here 12 including that baurus Diaw guysArman_Tanzarian
dont worry about it. Leave now before its too late