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#51  Edited By lamprey263
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I wonder if it is really broken or if people just don't know what a rogue-like is.

Anyhow, that's why I hate the idea of rogue-likes because their progression systems are so varied some games rhe ideas work, on others they suck, just depends. It's not a genre I am particularly fond of even though their are some games I like a good deal.

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#52  Edited By Pedro
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@lamprey263 said:

I wonder if it is really broken or if people just don't know what a rogue-like is.

I doubt people are confusing a game exiting to XMB to a game being rogue-like.

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#53  Edited By Archangel3371  Online
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@Pedro: Well played. 😂

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#54 Silentchief
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Bought it yesterday and honestly I fucking hate it.

I can go a whole run without a life drop or weapon drop and I'm forced to use the shitty side pistol. It's hard but in a way that feels cheap.

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#55 Pedro
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@silentchief: Sorry to hear that man. Probably you just need a break.

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#56 SolidGame_basic
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@drummerdave9099 said:
@SolidGame_basic said:
@jaydan said:

Does the game really not have any form of saved progression, or are Playstation fans just not accustomed to roguelikes?

It does save when you hit certain milestones like beat a boss or if you aquire a permanent weapon or item. Your guns also progress and the upgrades carry over too. Also, the game will also allow you to buy certain items once per cycle for example an item that resurrects you upon death. There is also an option to buy a one time use checkpoint in case you die.

If I've made progress like you're saying and then the game crashes on that same run do I lose it forever until I do it again?

Whenever you die, you lose your weapon, your items, and buffs and are sent back to the beginning..but if you beat a boss, you just move onto the next world. Your progress with weapon perks will stay. There are certain items in the game that are permanent like your sword. When I lost to the second boss, instead of having to do all of the stages over, the game created a warp for me that I could go back to..but the problem with that is I didn't have my buffs. So I found myself going through encounters to get better weapons and all that. I only had one crash after 20 hours. Yes I had to do a new cycle but the permanent unlocks stay.

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#57 SheevPalpamemes
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@Pedro: I know that Hardware is worthless without software. So try Returnal, you might be surprised.

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#58  Edited By KBFloYd
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another "mature gamer" although he used prefer xbox...bu.. loves playstation as well.

calling the game out for crashes and no saving.

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and this guy also not going to play the game anymore until its patched. crashed on him twice already. ps5 rest mode breaks ps5s

and that 70 dollar next gen experience lmao

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#59 PC_Rocks
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I thought consoles were plug and play!

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#60 SecretPolice
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Would never ever play a dud like this game. Yuck !! :P

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#61 sheep99
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All i know is I am having great time playing the game

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#62 Pedro
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It sucks for folks who are encountering this problem. I hope the issue is resolved.

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#63 TheEroica  Moderator
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You're making a mistake if you read tc's title and think this is a bad game. This thread is scrub content.

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#64  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@KBFloYd said:

yea i saw a video of some african american called gamer2323. the dude battled so hard and beat the 1st stage and then it crashed on him.

this is shitty programming by the developers. not sony's fault.

game was probably rushed out before ratchet and clank to get sales from starving ps5 customers.

Why do you blatantly lie for?

Here's the video you're talking about:

The game didn't crash. He died to the boss. I really don't believe you're a sheep because your hatred for Sony is irrational and you never say anything bad about Microsoft. You're a lemming in sheeps clothing.

Are the sheep supposed to be allies of the company that beat Nintendo and Sega into the ground? It's patronising, because the truth is, the cows don't see Nintendo as any kind of threat, so they act like they're some kind of Japanese ally or some such bs.

But the minute someone makes a thread about how good Nintendo is doing in terms of sales, I see comments talking shit about Nintendo. "it's just a handheld", "it's just this, it's just that". And then cows use Nintendo against MS, "YEAH! SONY AND NINTENDO".

What a load of old nonsense. At least lems and sheep don't pretend with each other.

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#65 HalcyonScarlet
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@hardwenzen said:

A 9/10 IS A 9/10. GET OVER IT, KIDDO.

Yet the cows were MAD about The Medium. :-S

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#66 HalcyonScarlet
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@KBFloYd said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@KBFloYd said:

yea i saw a video of some african american called gamer2323. the dude battled so hard and beat the 1st stage and then it crashed on him.

this is shitty programming by the developers. not sony's fault.

game was probably rushed out before ratchet and clank to get sales from starving ps5 customers.

Why do you blatantly lie for?

Here's the video you're talking about:

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The game didn't crash. He died to the boss. I really don't believe you're a sheep because your hatred for Sony is irrational and you never say anything bad about Microsoft. You're a lemming in sheeps clothing.

6:15-6:20

Bit of a deal breaker until fixed. A game that crashes is one thing, but if you can't save, then those things combined is a huge issue. If I owned this, I might put it aside until fixed.

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@TheEroica said:

You're making a mistake if you read tc's title and think this is a bad game. This thread is scrub content.

So you don't think it matters the game is crashing PS5's?

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#68 deactivated-60c3d23d2738e
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Generic alien shoot em up. Works or doesn't work I'm not intrigued I'm the least with this game.

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well, that's unfortunate

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@KBFloYd said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@KBFloYd said:

yea i saw a video of some african american called gamer2323. the dude battled so hard and beat the 1st stage and then it crashed on him.

this is shitty programming by the developers. not sony's fault.

game was probably rushed out before ratchet and clank to get sales from starving ps5 customers.

Why do you blatantly lie for?

Here's the video you're talking about:

Loading Video...

The game didn't crash. He died to the boss. I really don't believe you're a sheep because your hatred for Sony is irrational and you never say anything bad about Microsoft. You're a lemming in sheeps clothing.

6:15-6:20

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@drummerdave9099 said:
@TheEroica said:

You're making a mistake if you read tc's title and think this is a bad game. This thread is scrub content.

So you don't think it matters the game is crashing PS5's?

@drummerdave9099: no... I don't. It's well documented that if you part with full price money for a game at launch you are paying for the worst version the game will ever be.

I can only assume that people who pay those prices take this into account and understand they are paying for the immediacy of the experience not value.

We've now had nearly TEN full years of knowing that if you buy a game at launch you are getting the least value in both price and experience.

Housemarqe made an incredible game and it still has some bugs.... Just like every other game at launch.

It'll be a goty consideration no matter how you try and spin its launch.

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#72 palasta
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All the hubbub for a game named "Returnal". What a stupid name.

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#73  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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@TheEroica: half the xbox-owned games on my PC are still buggy and crash, years after release. It is what it is - drummerdave wants to tear this down but i don't think anyone who is interested in this game cares. They might wait for some patches, but drummy aint gonna turn them off

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#74 TheEroica  Moderator
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@xantufrog: yep... "the game has launch bugs" could be attributed to every game in the past 10 years and tc brings it up like it's a new phenomenon...

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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:

A 9/10 IS A 9/10. GET OVER IT, KIDDO.

Yet the cows were MAD about The Medium. :-S

We were mad because that game deserved no attention. The game is as bad as it gets. Wait a second, did i call it a game? I meant a cheap indie movie with a 31% rotten tomatoes score.

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@TheEroica said:
@drummerdave9099 said:
@TheEroica said:

You're making a mistake if you read tc's title and think this is a bad game. This thread is scrub content.

So you don't think it matters the game is crashing PS5's?

@drummerdave9099: no... I don't. It's well documented that if you part with full price money for a game at launch you are paying for the worst version the game will ever be.

I can only assume that people who pay those prices take this into account and understand they are paying for the immediacy of the experience not value.

We've now had nearly TEN full years of knowing that if you buy a game at launch you are getting the least value in both price and experience.

Housemarqe made an incredible game and it still has some bugs.... Just like every other game at launch.

It'll be a goty consideration no matter how you try and spin its launch.

All the more reason for the dev to just have a save feature then

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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@KBFloYd said:

yea i saw a video of some african american called gamer2323. the dude battled so hard and beat the 1st stage and then it crashed on him.

this is shitty programming by the developers. not sony's fault.

game was probably rushed out before ratchet and clank to get sales from starving ps5 customers.

Why do you blatantly lie for?

Here's the video you're talking about:

The game didn't crash. He died to the boss. I really don't believe you're a sheep because your hatred for Sony is irrational and you never say anything bad about Microsoft. You're a lemming in sheeps clothing.

Are the sheep supposed to be allies of the company that beat Nintendo and Sega into the ground? It's patronising, because the truth is, the cows don't see Nintendo as any kind of threat, so they act like they're some kind of Japanese ally or some such bs.

But the minute someone makes a thread about how good Nintendo is doing in terms of sales, I see comments talking shit about Nintendo. "it's just a handheld", "it's just this, it's just that". And then cows use Nintendo against MS, "YEAH! SONY AND NINTENDO".

What a load of old nonsense. At least lems and sheep don't pretend with each other.

exactly, i hate sony because they took all the 3rd party from nintendo. they did the same to sega. basically money hatted developers to put their games exclusively on playstation.

xbox hasnt done anything on that level of bad. they brought online to gaming and it was great. they brought DLC which is pretty cool. achievements are cool.

the only bad thing they have brought is paying to play online. thats it.

---

also true how cows think of nintendo as allies then as soon as nintendo one ups them they call them a joke.

although some cows do give nintendo props.

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#80 mowgly1
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Game is sublime. Roguelite as it should be. Just hardcore gameplay.

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#81 Pedro
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@mowgly1 said:

Game is sublime. Roguelite as it should be. Just hardcore gameplay.

And some hardcore crashes. 😂🤣

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#82  Edited By jaydan
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@KBFloYd said:

yea i saw a video of some african american called gamer2323. the dude battled so hard and beat the 1st stage and then it crashed on him.

this is shitty programming by the developers. not sony's fault.

game was probably rushed out before ratchet and clank to get sales from starving ps5 customers.

Why do you blatantly lie for?

Here's the video you're talking about:

The game didn't crash. He died to the boss. I really don't believe you're a sheep because your hatred for Sony is irrational and you never say anything bad about Microsoft. You're a lemming in sheeps clothing.

Are the sheep supposed to be allies of the company that beat Nintendo and Sega into the ground? It's patronising, because the truth is, the cows don't see Nintendo as any kind of threat, so they act like they're some kind of Japanese ally or some such bs.

But the minute someone makes a thread about how good Nintendo is doing in terms of sales, I see comments talking shit about Nintendo. "it's just a handheld", "it's just this, it's just that". And then cows use Nintendo against MS, "YEAH! SONY AND NINTENDO".

What a load of old nonsense. At least lems and sheep don't pretend with each other.

Not that I care too deeply about this fanboy drivel, but a lot of this rings true.

Nintendo is an ally to Playstation fans when they can conveniently use Nintendo against Microsoft to mask the fact Nintendo outsells Playstation in a lot of fronts. 🤣

It's either that or "there's a lot of children that boost those numbers" or "it's just a handheld" to feel better about their own defeat.

Not like sales really matter, but Playstation fans make sales matter more than anyone else.

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#83 HalcyonScarlet
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@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:

A 9/10 IS A 9/10. GET OVER IT, KIDDO.

Yet the cows were MAD about The Medium. :-S

We were mad because that game deserved no attention. The game is as bad as it gets. Wait a second, did i call it a game? I meant a cheap indie movie with a 31% rotten tomatoes score.

First, it was given a 9/10 by GS, so how can you trust them?

Second, have you played it? Maybe it was given a 9 based on what it was supposed to be, like those beyond two souls games, and heavy rain.

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#84  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@KBFloYd said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@KBFloYd said:

yea i saw a video of some african american called gamer2323. the dude battled so hard and beat the 1st stage and then it crashed on him.

this is shitty programming by the developers. not sony's fault.

game was probably rushed out before ratchet and clank to get sales from starving ps5 customers.

Why do you blatantly lie for?

Here's the video you're talking about:

The game didn't crash. He died to the boss. I really don't believe you're a sheep because your hatred for Sony is irrational and you never say anything bad about Microsoft. You're a lemming in sheeps clothing.

Are the sheep supposed to be allies of the company that beat Nintendo and Sega into the ground? It's patronising, because the truth is, the cows don't see Nintendo as any kind of threat, so they act like they're some kind of Japanese ally or some such bs.

But the minute someone makes a thread about how good Nintendo is doing in terms of sales, I see comments talking shit about Nintendo. "it's just a handheld", "it's just this, it's just that". And then cows use Nintendo against MS, "YEAH! SONY AND NINTENDO".

What a load of old nonsense. At least lems and sheep don't pretend with each other.

exactly, i hate sony because they took all the 3rd party from nintendo. they did the same to sega. basically money hatted developers to put their games exclusively on playstation.

xbox hasnt done anything on that level of bad. they brought online to gaming and it was great. they brought DLC which is pretty cool. achievements are cool.

the only bad thing they have brought is paying to play online. thats it.

---

also true how cows think of nintendo as allies then as soon as nintendo one ups them they call them a joke.

although some cows do give nintendo props.

On top of that, Xbox doesn't patronise Nintendo because they are no threat, on the contrary, they keep reaching out to Nintendo for business dealings. That's better respect than hollow words from the PR guys isn't it?

About DLC thing, I thought it went too far 8th gen onward. Every game coming with an expensive season pass.

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#85 hardwenzen
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:

A 9/10 IS A 9/10. GET OVER IT, KIDDO.

Yet the cows were MAD about The Medium. :-S

We were mad because that game deserved no attention. The game is as bad as it gets. Wait a second, did i call it a game? I meant a cheap indie movie with a 31% rotten tomatoes score.

First, it was given a 9/10 by GS, so how can you trust them?

Second, have you played it? Maybe it was given a 9 based on what it was supposed to be, like those beyond two souls games, and heavy rain.

I didn't play it. Of course not. And heavy rain and beyond two souls are as bad, wouldn't touch em from a mile.

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#86  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@jaydan said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@KBFloYd said:

yea i saw a video of some african american called gamer2323. the dude battled so hard and beat the 1st stage and then it crashed on him.

this is shitty programming by the developers. not sony's fault.

game was probably rushed out before ratchet and clank to get sales from starving ps5 customers.

Why do you blatantly lie for?

Here's the video you're talking about:

The game didn't crash. He died to the boss. I really don't believe you're a sheep because your hatred for Sony is irrational and you never say anything bad about Microsoft. You're a lemming in sheeps clothing.

Are the sheep supposed to be allies of the company that beat Nintendo and Sega into the ground? It's patronising, because the truth is, the cows don't see Nintendo as any kind of threat, so they act like they're some kind of Japanese ally or some such bs.

But the minute someone makes a thread about how good Nintendo is doing in terms of sales, I see comments talking shit about Nintendo. "it's just a handheld", "it's just this, it's just that". And then cows use Nintendo against MS, "YEAH! SONY AND NINTENDO".

What a load of old nonsense. At least lems and sheep don't pretend with each other.

Not that I care too deeply about this fanboy drivel, but a lot of this rings true.

Nintendo is an ally to Playstation fans when they can conveniently use Nintendo against Microsoft to mask the fact Nintendo outsells Playstation in a lot of fronts. 🤣

It's either that or "there's a lot of children that boost those numbers" or "it's just a handheld" to feel better about their own defeat.

Not like sales really matter, but Playstation fans make sales matter more than anyone else.

Exactly. Realistically, they're all doing great, so who cares, leave it up to the businessman.

I usually bring up the 23M Gamepass subs, because PS fans have such an unhealthy interest in who is 1st, 2nd and 3rd.

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#87 jaydan
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@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:

A 9/10 IS A 9/10. GET OVER IT, KIDDO.

Yet the cows were MAD about The Medium. :-S

We were mad because that game deserved no attention. The game is as bad as it gets. Wait a second, did i call it a game? I meant a cheap indie movie with a 31% rotten tomatoes score.

First, it was given a 9/10 by GS, so how can you trust them?

Second, have you played it? Maybe it was given a 9 based on what it was supposed to be, like those beyond two souls games, and heavy rain.

I didn't play it. Of course not. And heavy rain and beyond two souls are as bad, wouldn't touch em from a mile.

Only reason you're playing neither Heavy Rain nor Beyond Two Souls is because they're not Playstation exclusives anymore.

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#88 jaydan
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@HalcyonScarlet: If Playstation fans gave many shits less about sales determining their enjoyment factor, I can assure you there would be much more productive conversations in SW.

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#89 hardwenzen
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@jaydan said:
@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

Yet the cows were MAD about The Medium. :-S

We were mad because that game deserved no attention. The game is as bad as it gets. Wait a second, did i call it a game? I meant a cheap indie movie with a 31% rotten tomatoes score.

First, it was given a 9/10 by GS, so how can you trust them?

Second, have you played it? Maybe it was given a 9 based on what it was supposed to be, like those beyond two souls games, and heavy rain.

I didn't play it. Of course not. And heavy rain and beyond two souls are as bad, wouldn't touch em from a mile.

Only reason you're playing neither Heavy Rain nor Beyond Two Souls is because they're not Playstation exclusives anymore.

Sorry dude but you're playing that Pokemon App. Don't talk to me, dude.

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#90  Edited By jaydan
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@hardwenzen said:
@jaydan said:
@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

First, it was given a 9/10 by GS, so how can you trust them?

Second, have you played it? Maybe it was given a 9 based on what it was supposed to be, like those beyond two souls games, and heavy rain.

I didn't play it. Of course not. And heavy rain and beyond two souls are as bad, wouldn't touch em from a mile.

Only reason you're playing neither Heavy Rain nor Beyond Two Souls is because they're not Playstation exclusives anymore.

Sorry dude but you're playing that Pokemon App. Don't talk to me, dude.

If New Pokemon Snap was a PS5 exclusive you would be considering it for GOTY.

At least I'm not hellbent enough that I can still enjoy games without the expectation of being a GOTY game.

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#91  Edited By deactivated-628e6669daebe
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Sony's SSD is just to powerful to Save/Quit.

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#92 hardwenzen
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@jaydan said:
@hardwenzen said:
@jaydan said:
@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

First, it was given a 9/10 by GS, so how can you trust them?

Second, have you played it? Maybe it was given a 9 based on what it was supposed to be, like those beyond two souls games, and heavy rain.

I didn't play it. Of course not. And heavy rain and beyond two souls are as bad, wouldn't touch em from a mile.

Only reason you're playing neither Heavy Rain nor Beyond Two Souls is because they're not Playstation exclusives anymore.

Sorry dude but you're playing that Pokemon App. Don't talk to me, dude.

If New Pokemon Snap was a PS5 exclusive you would be considering it for GOTY.

At least I'm not hellbent enough that I can still enjoy games without the expectation of being a GOTY game.

Come on now. That's like hyping Bugsnax. Hell, think i would rather play Bugsnax than that app pokemon thingy

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#93 jaydan
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@hardwenzen: Oh, I thought you didn't want to talk to me,

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#94 hardwenzen
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@jaydan said:

@hardwenzen: Oh, I thought you didn't want to talk to me,

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@hardwenzen said:

Is that you when your PS5 controller broke from regular usage?😎

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#96 jaydan
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@hardwenzen said:
@jaydan said:

@hardwenzen: Oh, I thought you didn't want to talk to me,

Lemme teach you a thing or two about being quiet.

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#97  Edited By jaydan
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@Pedro: I'm gonna have to steal one of your gifs for this one, but Hardwenzen then:

And Hardwenzen now:

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#98 ermacness
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:

A 9/10 IS A 9/10. GET OVER IT, KIDDO.

Yet the cows were MAD about The Medium. :-S

The medium came and went so fast. Returnal might do the same thing but then cows have R&C to acquire in June.

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#99 hardwenzen
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@jaydan said:

@Pedro: I'm gonna have to steal one of your gifs for this one, but Hardwenzen then:

And Hardwenzen now:

Both of these are mine. Perdro stole the upper one and is now trying to steal the 2nd one. These are mine, stop using them.

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#100  Edited By jaydan
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@hardwenzen: In just a few short years when Sony decides to rip-off Nintendo (again) and launch the bongo peripherals from Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat on the GameCube, as a new way to play your favorite games, this will be you day one: