Sooo PC's have better hardware, graphics and options but...

They still have tons of hackers? What's the point of PC gamers bragging about their updated stuff it they still get hackers?

Seriously consoles have "outdated" hardware but have less chances of hacking

Whaaat?? I'm just wondering.. I don't mean to be bashing on PC's as I just hate it when PC gamers brag...

Discuss?

The hackers get banned by moderators/thread

Dedicated Servers say Hi.

They still have tons of hackers? What's the point of PC gamers bragging about their updated stuff it they still get hackers?

Seriously consoles have "outdated" hardware but have less chances of hacking

Whaaat?? I'm just wondering.. I don't mean to be bashing on PC's as I just hate it when PC gamers brag...

Discuss?

WasacreOL

We barely have any hackers in games with dedicated servers, 90% of the admins hate hackers, and they are banned in a matter of seconds.

Ofcourse crappy games with a crappy community shall suffer.

But unfortunately hackers are a problem everywere.

So.. PC still remains superior to consoles in every single way. Vastly superior, it's not even funny.

It's not "outdated" it's outdated.GeneralShowzer

And for people who think that using the 'PC elitist' card is insulting:

'Elitism is the belief or attitude that some individuals, who form an elite — a select group of people with intellect, wealth, specialized training or experience, or other distinctive attributes — are those whose views on a matter are to be taken the most seriously or carry the most weight or those who view their own views as so; whose views and/or actions are most likely to be constructive to society as a whole; or whose extraordinary skills, abilities or wisdom render them especially fit to govern.'

You are basically calling us your superiors, and praising us.

The presence of hackers has literally nothing at all to do with hardware. The platform is more open, so files are more easily accessed, and more easily hacked.

In any case, any multiplayer game worth playing uses dedicated servers and anti-cheat systems to weed out hackers.

It's not "outdated" it's outdated.GeneralShowzer

I'm so confused... So the hackers and stuff are not the PC's fault?

Cuz I read so many posts about cheaters and hackers on Crysis, Crysis 2, Etc.

And for people who think that using the 'PC elitist' card is insulting:

'Elitism is the belief or attitude that some individuals, who form an elite — a select group of people with intellect, wealth, specialized training or experience, or other distinctive attributes — are those whose views on a matter are to be taken the most seriously or carry the most weight or those who view their own views as so; whose views and/or actions are most likely to be constructive to society as a whole; or whose extraordinary skills, abilities or wisdom render them especially fit to govern.'

You are basically calling us your superiors, and praising us.

Lucianu

This is how it goes.

Step 1. Hacker joins server

Step 2. Hacker glitchs or is using aimbot

Step 3. Everyone else: "That **** has aimbot! / is glitching" -Voteban-

Step 4. -Press F1 to ban hacker-

Step 5. -Hacker is banned-

Step 6. Carry on having fun

Hackers get kicked by moderators and administrators. Your point has just been blown to bits.

As Lucianu mentioned this largely isn't a problem on games with dedicated servers because between the admins and the anti-cheat layer most of the problems are taken care of; if a game uses peer-to-peer multiplayer you only have the automated software layer to protect you and if it doesn't see an exploit your only option is to report it to the developer (or whoever) which takes a lot longer.

Enduringly popular multiplayer PC games (Counter-Strike, Battlefield 2, etc.) always have dedicated servers because it provides an experience with fewer cheaters, better stability and increased options like custom maps and new game modes. Peer-to-peer games like Black Ops sell OK on the PC but they never see the long-term popularity of games with dedicated servers for these and other reasons.

And for people who think that using the 'PC elitist' card is insulting:

'Elitism is the belief or attitude that some individuals, who form an elite — a select group of people with intellect, wealth, specialized training or experience, or other distinctive attributes — are those whose views on a matter are to be taken the most seriously or carry the most weight or those who view their own views as so; whose views and/or actions are most likely to be constructive to society as a whole; or whose extraordinary skills, abilities or wisdom render them especially fit to govern.'

You are basically calling us your superiors, and praising us.

Lucianu

"Belief" is a keyword. According to the definition you provided, a PC elitist is a part of a select group of people who own superior hardware than others, and because of that believe that their views and opinions about gaming carry the most weight. Not a compliment at all...

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

And for people who think that using the 'PC elitist' card is insulting:

'Elitism is the belief or attitude that some individuals, who form an elite — a select group of people with intellect, wealth, specialized training or experience, or other distinctive attributes — are those whose views on a matter are to be taken the most seriously or carry the most weight or those who view their own views as so; whose views and/or actions are most likely to be constructive to society as a whole; or whose extraordinary skills, abilities or wisdom render them especially fit to govern.'

You are basically calling us your superiors, and praising us.

EzekyleAbadon

"Belief" is a keyword. According to the definition you provided, a PC elitist is a part of a select group of people who own superior hardware than others, and because of that believe that their views and opinions about gaming carry the most weight. Not a compliment at all...

Ah, i missed that. You're right.

im guessing you've never played multiplayer on pc before? i rarely see hackers on pc games, but when they do show up, they get banned really fast! dedicated servers FTW! ADMINS FTW!

Hackers are not a problem at all anymore in PC games...excluding CoD4 I guess. IW may have gotten rid of them too. killab2oo5

Why CoD4?

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]Hackers are not a problem at all anymore in PC games...excluding CoD4 I guess. IW may have gotten rid of them too. N30F3N1X

Why CoD4?

[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]Hackers are not a problem at all anymore in PC games...excluding CoD4 I guess. IW may have gotten rid of them too. killab2oo5

Why CoD4?

I honestly prefer the match making service for games like CoD much more than dedicated services for everything except for hacking prevention.

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

Why CoD4?

sSubZerOo

I honestly prefer the match making service for games like CoD much more than dedicated services for everything except for hacking prevention.

honestly prefer the match making service for games like CoD much more than dedicated services for everything except for hacking prevention.

sSubZerOo

The hackers get banned by moderators/thread

call_of_duty_10

Yea..and there is NO WAY WE CAN GET AROUND ANY OF THAT...r...i...g...h...t??..lol..why you think servers have to update their tools all the time..People get around everything they throw up. just stating the truth.

They still have tons of hackers? What's the point of PC gamers bragging about their updated stuff it they still get hackers?

Seriously consoles have "outdated" hardware but have less chances of hacking

Whaaat?? I'm just wondering.. I don't mean to be bashing on PC's as I just hate it when PC gamers brag...

Discuss?

WasacreOL

LOL typical console argument "ok PC is better, but the haxors!".

I personally don't care WHICH platform is better, I just want the best, which happens to be PC.

Hackers are a non-issue, 10 years of PC gaming and I've seen maybe a couple aimbots and porting hacks; and none in recent memory.

Fact is: your argument is weak, and you will be on PC within 2 years I'm guessing.

if you've ever been involved in administrating on a server handling banning/unbanning etc.You will know how quick you can lock onto a hacker.SAMP brings back good memories of admining :) twas sometimes more fun banning the hackers who tried to continually troll a server cause he felt so boss cause he had dynamic IP.

[QUOTE="WasacreOL"]

They still have tons of hackers? What's the point of PC gamers bragging about their updated stuff it they still get hackers?

Seriously consoles have "outdated" hardware but have less chances of hacking

Whaaat?? I'm just wondering.. I don't mean to be bashing on PC's as I just hate it when PC gamers brag...

Discuss?

Lucianu

We barely have any hackers in games with dedicated servers, 90% of the admins hate hackers, and they are banned in a matter of seconds.

Ofcourse crappy games with a crappy community shall suffer.

But unfortunately hackers are a problem everywere.

So.. PC still remains superior to consoles in every single way. Vastly superior, it's not even funny.

Hacking on a monitored dedicated server doesn't happen often.

This is part of the reason why PC gamers want dedicated servers. We can completely control who plays on the server. If somebody is hacking or being extremely rude, we can just ban them and they can't come back. Problem solved.

On the consoles you have no choice but to put up with everything and hope that the moderators do something to their profiles.

Who knows, but hey at least we can do something about them. Can't do anything about a hacker on PSN or XBL(we XBL you can kinda) and there's been a recent and extremely sharp increase in them.. for obvious reason.

Hacking on a monitored dedicated server doesn't happen often.

This is part of the reason why PC gamers want dedicated servers. We can completely control who plays on the server. If somebody is hacking or being extremely rude, we can just ban them and they can't come back. Problem solved.

On the consoles you have no choice but to put up with everything and hope that the moderators do something to their profiles.

Wasdie

Takes like 5min to change an ip address and come right back in..usser name,password...ect..nothing even a noob cant handle.

I have not come across a hacker in yeeeeeaaaars. There's a lot of protection against them. Many games are VAC secured, or there's other tools like punkbuster, and given that most servers you play on are admin-run it is so easy to kick people from them. You see a hacker, and he'll be gone in two minutes.

I have come across hackers on the consoles, and that sucks because you either have to quit the game, or let the game run it's course...

I'm so confused... So the hackers and stuff are not the PC's fault?

Cuz I read so many posts about cheaters and hackers on Crysis, Crysis 2, Etc.

WasacreOL

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Hacking on a monitored dedicated server doesn't happen often.

This is part of the reason why PC gamers want dedicated servers. We can completely control who plays on the server. If somebody is hacking or being extremely rude, we can just ban them and they can't come back. Problem solved.

On the consoles you have no choice but to put up with everything and hope that the moderators do something to their profiles.

VanDammFan

Takes like 5min to change an ip address and come right back in..usser name,password...ect..nothing even a noob cant handle.

Then the admin sees them again and bans them in a minute...

Last time I ran into any substantial hacking that ruined my experience I was playing Counter-strike back in like 03.

I played Day of Defeat Source for almost a year straight... and had encountered no more than 3 hackers in that time. And when I did, the server admin banned them.

Grasping at sludge at the bottom of the barrel much? All those advantages that PC offers and "the possibility of hacking" is the best you can do?

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Hacking on a monitored dedicated server doesn't happen often.

This is part of the reason why PC gamers want dedicated servers. We can completely control who plays on the server. If somebody is hacking or being extremely rude, we can just ban them and they can't come back. Problem solved.

On the consoles you have no choice but to put up with everything and hope that the moderators do something to their profiles.

VanDammFan

Takes like 5min to change an ip address and come right back in..usser name,password...ect..nothing even a noob cant handle.

The hackers get banned by moderators/thread

call_of_duty_10

Exactly.

Hackers aren't as big of a problem as people think in most games.