Sorry SW, I doubt we will see a 10/10 rating until next gen

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#1 cee1gee
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It is hard to please gamers no matter how great the game is, and since the last 10 was what? gta 4? correct me if im wrong. People said that it no way should of got a 10. Its going to make game critics look more in depth before considering a 10/10 rating...

So i think next gen we will see some 10's due to better graphics i suppose, the games should be outstanding compared to what we are playing now, so it looks like next gen...anyone disagree?

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#2 Who_Dat_Ninja
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There could be a 10/10 this gen. Or next gen. No one really knows, we can't exactly see the future. And there are good games below a 10...
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#3 Parasomniac
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We'll probably see one when the next full GTA comes out.
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I'm not really interested in whether we do or don't. I just want to play solid games.

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#5 Yankees718
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It is hard to please gamers no matter how great the game is, and since the last 10 was what? gta 4? correct me if im wrong. People said that it no way should of got a 10. Its going to make game critics look more in depth before considering a 10/10 rating...

So i think next gen we will see some 10's due to better graphics i suppose, the games should be outstanding compared to what we are playing now, so it looks like next gen...anyone disagree?

cee1gee

GTA V...lol

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#6 foxhound_fox
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We won't know that until the gen is over. Personally, I could see Assassin's Creed II nailing one, considering Van Ord is still here, he loved the first one, and the second is going to be heavily improved over the first.

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#7 deactivated-59da85d821feb
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Neither GTA4 or MGS4 deserved 10/10. Especially MGS4 when you look at it's scores at Gamerankings or Metacritic.
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#8 mo0ksi
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I honestly hope that no game gets a 10 anymore, becasue when it does it gets nothing but crap thrown at it. Oh wait, that's just describing all the AAA/AAAA scored games here. Don't get me wrong, I think certain games are overrated. But lately is seems that almost no game, no matter how well rated it is, can ever be legitimately good in SW.

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#9 Console_Gamer93
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i don't think it has to do with graphics.

Advertisement/agreements/etc. seem more likely.

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#10 Who_Dat_Ninja
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We won't know that until the gen is over. Personally, I could see Assassin's Creed II nailing one, considering Van Ord is still here, he loved the first one, and the second is going to be heavily improved over the first.

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After the GS reaction to his review, I wouldn't think he'd give it a 10, even if he really thought so.
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#11 cee1gee
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We won't know that until the gen is over. Personally, I could see Assassin's Creed II nailing one, considering Van Ord is still here, he loved the first one, and the second is going to be heavily improved over the first.

foxhound_fox
ehhhh i predict a 9.0 MAYBE 9.5
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#12 LegendofNerd
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Never say never. GS has surprised us before.

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#13 Aku101
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God of War 3 will be AAAA. Bet on it.

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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]I honestly hope that no game gets a 10 anymore, becasue when it does it gets nothing but crap thrown at it. Oh wait, that's just describing all the AAA/AAAA scored games here.

yea so critics will look more in depth before just throwing 10s out there
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It is hard to please gamers no matter how great the game is, and since the last 10 was what? gta 4? correct me if im wrong. People said that it no way should of got a 10. Its going to make game critics look more in depth before considering a 10/10 rating...

So i think next gen we will see some 10's due to better graphics i suppose, the games should be outstanding compared to what we are playing now, so it looks like next gen...anyone disagree?

cee1gee
Last 10/10 was MGS4. That and GTAIV were both within a couple of months. I suspect we could easily see another 10 this gen. It only hinges on one reviewer. I certainly would have given Uncharted 2 a 10/10, even though I don't think 10/10 means "Perfect" (nothing is perfect).
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#16 mo0ksi
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[QUOTE="cee1gee"][QUOTE="mo0ksi"]I honestly hope that no game gets a 10 anymore, becasue when it does it gets nothing but crap thrown at it. Oh wait, that's just describing all the AAA/AAAA scored games here.

yea so critics will look more in depth before just throwing 10s out there

But maybe the games were rated so high because...they're actually good? I think GTA 4 was fully deserving of the general reception, for example. Just like how some people think that MGS 4 deserved the 10 it received here.
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#17 foxhound_fox
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After the GS reaction to his review, I wouldn't think he'd give it a 10, even if he really thought so.Who_Dat_Ninja

Why should he care about reaction? Its his opinion after all. If he wants to give ACII a 10, he can. I thought the 9.0 for AC was justified, despite the issues it was still very enjoyable for me. And that's the point, a review score is just a quantification of the reviewer's enjoyment of said game... it in no way represents the "quality" of the game at all.

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#18 cee1gee
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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"][QUOTE="cee1gee"][QUOTE="mo0ksi"]I honestly hope that no game gets a 10 anymore, becasue when it does it gets nothing but crap thrown at it. Oh wait, that's just describing all the AAA/AAAA scored games here.

yea so critics will look more in depth before just throwing 10s out there

But maybe the games were rated so high because...they're actually good? I think GTA 4 was fully deserving of the general reception, for example. Just like how some people think that MGS 4 deserved the 10 it received here.

i agree gta 4 deserved it. it took sandbox games into a whole new level, the graphics were great, the storyline was good, the multiplayer was really fun...10 was deserving
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I'm not really interested in whether we do or don't. I just want to play solid games.

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[QUOTE="Who_Dat_Ninja"]After the GS reaction to his review, I wouldn't think he'd give it a 10, even if he really thought so.foxhound_fox


Why should he care about reaction? Its his opinion after all. If he wants to give ACII a 10, he can. I thought the 9.0 for AC was justified, despite the issues it was still very enjoyable for me. And that's the point, a review score is just a quantification of the reviewer's enjoyment of said game... it in no way represents the "quality" of the game at all.

THANK GOD SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS ME. (Well, I know more people do but still...)

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Why should he care about reaction? Its his opinion after all. If he wants to give ACII a 10, he can. I thought the 9.0 for AC was justified, despite the issues it was still very enjoyable for me. And that's the point, a review score is just a quantification of the reviewer's enjoyment of said game... it in no way represents the "quality" of the game at all.

foxhound_fox

I'm in NO way saying that's what he should do. Just the impending rage of some people might cause him to drop it to a 9.5, is all.

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#21 foxhound_fox
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I'm in NO way saying that's what he should do. Just the impending rage of some people might cause him to drop it to a 9.5, is all.

Who_Dat_Ninja


Who cares about the "rage?" If he wants to rate the game a 10, he will. He shouldn't care what a bunch of forumites think. Plus, there have been very few occasions where scores were swapped after being reviewed.

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#22 Who_Dat_Ninja
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[QUOTE="Who_Dat_Ninja"]I'm in NO way saying that's what he should do. Just the impending rage of some people might cause him to drop it to a 9.5, is all.

foxhound_fox


Who cares about the "rage?" If he wants to rate the game a 10, he will. He shouldn't care what a bunch of forumites think. Plus, there have been very few occasions where scores were swapped after being reviewed.

He SHOULDN'T, but he MIGHT, that's ALL I'm saying...

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God of War 3 will be AAAA. Bet on it.

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This is the safest bet for a AAAA I can think of. Maybe GT5, Alan Wake, Starcraft II or Diablo 3, but those are all too far away to speculate on.
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#24 Filthybastrd
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Honestly, there should have been none.

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#25 urdead18
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Wait a second, doesn't God of War 3 come out this gen?

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#26 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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Diablo 3, Alan Wake, Mass Effect 2, The Last Guardian, or maybe Half Life ep 3.
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#27 cee1gee
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[QUOTE="Aku101"]

God of War 3 will be AAAA. Bet on it.

Hahadouken
This is the safest bet for a AAAA I can think of. Maybe GT5, Alan Wake, Starcraft II or Diablo 3, but those are all too far away to speculate on.

Alan wake has a good shot, gt5 ehh i dont know, starcraft 2 i doubt it, diablo 3 maybe
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#28 DeadEndPanda
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let me predict the rest of the thread.

Cows say GoW will get a 10

Sheep say zelda wii will get a 10

lemmings will say Halo reach will get a 10

i seriously hope this time around the game which gets a 10 will atlast be worth it.

but its pritty hard to please everybody.

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#29 gamedude00
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Honestly, the only game i can see getting a AAAA score is Mass Effect 2.

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#30 Aku101
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Honestly, the only game i can see getting a AAAA score is Mass Effect 2.

gamedude00

Yeah an 8.5 game is magically going to jump up to a 10 :roll:

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#31 Hahadouken
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Honestly, there should have been none.

Filthybastrd
Why have a 10 scale if you don't use the whole thing? Honestly, some people are way too critical. Equate it to women... you see a lot of 10s out there, some are hotter than others but they are still 10s. I think more 10s should be given out, personally.
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#32 gamedude00
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[QUOTE="gamedude00"]

Honestly, the only game i can see getting a AAAA score is Mass Effect 2.

Aku101

Yeah an 8.5 game is magically going to jump up to a 10 :roll:

Killzone (6.9) ---> killzone 2 (9.0)

Uncharted (8.0) ---> uncharted 2 (9.5)

MGS 3 (8.7) ---> MGS 4 (10) *Actually, MGS 3 shouldve gotten a 10 from the start*

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#33 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="gamedude00"]

Honestly, the only game i can see getting a AAAA score is Mass Effect 2.

Aku101

Yeah an 8.5 game is magically going to jump up to a 10 :roll:

Metal Gear Solid basically did. 8.7 --> 10.0

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#34 Aku101
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[QUOTE="Aku101"]

[QUOTE="gamedude00"]

Honestly, the only game i can see getting a AAAA score is Mass Effect 2.

ActicEdge

Yeah an 8.5 game is magically going to jump up to a 10 :roll:

Metal Gear Solid basically did. 8.7 --> 10.0

Between 2 gens though.

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#35 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Aku101"]

Yeah an 8.5 game is magically going to jump up to a 10 :roll:

Aku101

Metal Gear Solid basically did. 8.7 --> 10.0

Between 2 gens though.

Not sure how that matters. Not like your original argument had any context to time.

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#36 Hahadouken
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[QUOTE="Aku101"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Metal Gear Solid basically did. 8.7 --> 10.0

ActicEdge

Between 2 gens though.

Not sure how that matters. Not like your original argument had any context to time.

Not only that, but Mass received a lot of AAA scores from other sites. GS is on the low side. It's essentially a AAA game, regardless of what this one site gave it, so a jump to 10 is not out of the question at all.
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#37 Leejjohno
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A lot of people agreed with GTA's rating. It has the highest production values of any game this gen.

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[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Honestly, there should have been none.

Hahadouken
Why have a 10 scale if you don't use the whole thing? Honestly, some people are way too critical. Equate it to women... you see a lot of 10s out there, some are hotter than others but they are still 10s. I think more 10s should be given out, personally.

well said sir
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#39 foxhound_fox
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Yeah an 8.5 game is magically going to jump up to a 10 :roll:

Aku101


What does Mass Effect's score do to effect the second one's? If there is significant enough improvements, it could easily score 10. And the PC version scored 9.

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[QUOTE="Aku101"]Yeah an 8.5 game is magically going to jump up to a 10 :roll:

foxhound_fox


What does Mass Effect's score do to effect the second one's? If there is significant enough improvements, it could easily score 10. And the PC version scored 9.

I agree, I mean look what happened to the Killzone series. previous games in a series have no baring on how the sequel will turn out.

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Zelda Wii, maybe Super Mario Galaxy 2, Starcraft 2.
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#42 Burning-Sludge
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I doubt the Wii will ever get a perfect 10 from Game Spot.

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[QUOTE="Who_Dat_Ninja"]After the GS reaction to his review, I wouldn't think he'd give it a 10, even if he really thought so.foxhound_fox


Why should he care about reaction? Its his opinion after all. If he wants to give ACII a 10, he can. I thought the 9.0 for AC was justified, despite the issues it was still very enjoyable for me. And that's the point, a review score is just a quantification of the reviewer's enjoyment of said game... it in no way represents the "quality" of the game at all.

Really!? I love AC but it was a broken POS. It's had so much potential and fell flat on its face in ever aspect. Each assassination require the same 4 events to get to. Clunkly controls with the repetition just made it awful. But I can't wait for the second one. I just hope they fixed it.

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#44 Silenthps
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I doubt many gamers would have complained if Mario Galaxy got a 10. only other game I could see getting a 10 if it ever comes out this gen is Half Life 3, assuming it has the portal gun.
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Really!? I love AC but it was a broken POS. It's had so much potential and fell flat on its face in ever aspect. Each assassination require the same 4 events to get to. Clunkly controls with the repetition just made it awful. But I can't wait for the second one. I just hope they fixed it.

SexySasquatch11


Did you happen to read what I wrote? Van Ord enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. You didn't. Just because you didn't enjoy it doesn't mean Van Ord can't rate it 9.0/10. Just because you found it "broken, clunky and repetitive" doesn't make it any less enjoyable to particular people. There is no score that a reviewer can give that everyone will agree with. Its based purely on enjoyment, it has nothing to do with a game's "quality."

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Impossible to tell, though I have found both 10's this generation (GTAIV and MGS4) incredibly disappointing. I didn't finish either of them, it got to the point where I just had no interest in playing them.
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#47 Snagal123
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No game should get a 10 anyway, unless your some idiot who thinks 7 is the average of 10, oh wait Gamespot and all US review sites think 7 is the average of 10.

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#48 Silenthps
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[QUOTE="SexySasquatch11"]Really!? I love AC but it was a broken POS. It's had so much potential and fell flat on its face in ever aspect. Each assassination require the same 4 events to get to. Clunkly controls with the repetition just made it awful. But I can't wait for the second one. I just hope they fixed it.

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Did you happen to read what I wrote? Van Ord enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. You didn't. Just because you didn't enjoy it doesn't mean Van Ord can't rate it 9.0/10. Just because you found it "broken, clunky and repetitive" doesn't make it any less enjoyable to particular people. There is no score that a reviewer can give that everyone will agree with. Its based purely on enjoyment, it has nothing to do with a game's "quality."

A reviewer shouldn't base a score based on how much they specifically enjoyed it but on how much they think the majority of the public would enjoy it. Ex. If a reviewer is a huge DBZ fan, he' shouldn't give a DBZ game a huge score just because he enjoyed it so much. He should do his review as though he were an average consumer who may or may not know a thing about the DBZ universe.

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#49 Microdevine
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well, it wouldnt surprise me to see a another perfect scoring game this gen. especially since it still has some legs left and next year alone seems like it has some 10/10 contenders.mass effect 2, splinter cell:conviction, halo:reach, gow 3, the last guardian, and agent(considering its rockstar north fun fact: got gta 4 a 10) all those games are highly reguarded franchises with amazing devs behind them. but a 10's are given out few and far between(usually, gta 4 and mgs 4 were only a couple months apart). i guess we'll just have to wait and see tho.

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="SexySasquatch11"]Really!? I love AC but it was a broken POS. It's had so much potential and fell flat on its face in ever aspect. Each assassination require the same 4 events to get to. Clunkly controls with the repetition just made it awful. But I can't wait for the second one. I just hope they fixed it.

Silenthps


Did you happen to read what I wrote? Van Ord enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. You didn't. Just because you didn't enjoy it doesn't mean Van Ord can't rate it 9.0/10. Just because you found it "broken, clunky and repetitive" doesn't make it any less enjoyable to particular people. There is no score that a reviewer can give that everyone will agree with. Its based purely on enjoyment, it has nothing to do with a game's "quality."

A reviewer shouldn't base a score based on how much they specifically enjoyed it but on how much they think the majority of the public would enjoy it. Ex. If a reviewer is a huge DBZ fan, he' shouldn't give a DBZ game a huge score just because he enjoyed it so much. He should do his review as though he were an average consumer who may or may not know a thing about the DBZ universe.

Actually a revewer needs to look at the components of the game, compare against the standards that review scale has and then apply it to the audience. There is no reason why a game in the dragonball z universe needs to be subject to extreme story criticism for example. The fans don't care, and the games aren't about story. Deducting marks for silly things is not what reviews should do. Reviews need to be informative first and foremost. If they can't do that, they are worthless.