[QUOTE="Berserker_2"]The simple truth about the Wii is that it was born from a slimmer GameCube. The Xbox 360 was coming years earlier than expected and Nintendo panicked. They were in the middle of a GameCube iteration and decided to pass it off as a new console. How do I know this? The CPU is an over-clocked Gekko. It is the very same CPU. No console is history shared the same CPU as it's predecessor. The size of the Wii is another indication. If it used all new parts, they would be much larger, but instead they took the existing GameCube design, and shrunk it.Kaze_no_MiraiHonestly, I'm surprised that you would pass of your theories as cold hard fact. Why cant you believe that their plan all along was to make a Wii and not a powerhouse? Nintendo spent 23 years of making new powerful consoles. There is no way that they planned to use old technology for a new console. It had never been done. There hand was forced by Microsoft to make a new console. The 360 was released 4 years after Xbox. You saw what happened to Sony. Sony is barely treading water now. The Wii is not a bold attempt to raise video games to a new level. The Wii was a white flag.
Speaking of betrayal...
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[QUOTE="REVOLUTIONfreak"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="REVOLUTIONfreak"]The DS Lite doesn't cost anymore than the original, so what exactly are you talking about? Even the GBA SP I think stayed at the same price as the original model.Berserker_2They didn't "cost more" but they were redesigned to maintain a high price. But the Wii is an expensive GameCube. You can argue that it has a little more memory and a little higher speed (if we believe the rumored specs), but it is a modified GameCube for $250.Part of the reason Wii costs $250 isn't Nintendo's fault.... it's retailers. If my memory is correct retailers whined to Nintendo about the console's initial $200 price because they'd make little to no profit on the machine, so Nintendo bumped up the price and at that point probably included Wii Sports in the bundle. Why are people so eager to pick on Nintendo? What did Nintendo do to you? How exactly do you dislike Nintendo when they have been making timeless classics for over 20 years, and have produced some great memories for mostly all of us as kids and adults. Nintendo are not the innocent, kid-friendly console company everyone sees. They are in the business to make money and they have maintained the status quo for the last 15 years. They never stray from their demographic. Nintendo are the current bully, despite the illusion of Miyamoto's happy smile. The Wii is the result of complacency and Nintendo fans continue to buy their products. Which comes back to my point about Sheep hypocrisy.
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[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"]The simple truth about the Wii is that it was born from a slimmer GameCube. The Xbox 360 was coming years earlier than expected and Nintendo panicked. They were in the middle of a GameCube iteration and decided to pass it off as a new console. How do I know this? The CPU is an over-clocked Gekko. It is the very same CPU. No console is history shared the same CPU as it's predecessor. The size of the Wii is another indication. If it used all new parts, they would be much larger, but instead they took the existing GameCube design, and shrunk it.Berserker_2Honestly, I'm surprised that you would pass of your theories as cold hard fact. Why cant you believe that their plan all along was to make a Wii and not a powerhouse? Nintendo spent 23 years of making new powerful consoles. There is no way that they planned to use old technology for a new console. It had never been done. There hand was forced by Microsoft to make a new console. The 360 was released 4 years after Xbox. You saw what happened to Sony. Sony is barely treading water now. The Wii is not a bold attempt to raise video games to a new level. The Wii was a white flag. All power consoles were under Yamauchi, but in 2002-2003 (i forget) Iwata came to be the CEO, and guess what he's responsible for the Wii. The same man wasnt in charge of the companies consoles anymore, the Wii was Iwata's vision.
[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"]The simple truth about the Wii is that it was born from a slimmer GameCube. The Xbox 360 was coming years earlier than expected and Nintendo panicked. They were in the middle of a GameCube iteration and decided to pass it off as a new console. How do I know this? The CPU is an over-clocked Gekko. It is the very same CPU. No console is history shared the same CPU as it's predecessor. The size of the Wii is another indication. If it used all new parts, they would be much larger, but instead they took the existing GameCube design, and shrunk it.Berserker_2Honestly, I'm surprised that you would pass of your theories as cold hard fact. Why cant you believe that their plan all along was to make a Wii and not a powerhouse? Nintendo spent 23 years of making new powerful consoles. There is no way that they planned to use old technology for a new console. It had never been done. There hand was forced by Microsoft to make a new console. The 360 was released 4 years after Xbox. You saw what happened to Sony. Sony is barely treading water now. The Wii is not a bold attempt to raise video games to a new level. The Wii was a white flag.
Iwata is not Yamauchi. The change in leadership shows itself in a change in strategy.
[QUOTE="Berserker_2"] Nintendo are not the innocent, kid-friendly console company everyone sees. They are in the business to make money and they have maintained the status quo for the last 15 years. They never stray from their demographic. Nintendo are the current bully, despite the illusion of Miyamoto's happy smile. The Wii is the result of complacency and Nintendo fans continue to buy their products. Which comes back to my point about Sheep hypocrisy.Kaze_no_MiraiNintendo is in the business to make money!!11?? :shock: No way... And Sony and Microsoft are in it for all the poor kids who don't have anything to eat, right. Why are they the bully... seriously, please explain and give examples.
MS, Sony, and Nintendo are all businesses. They are all legitimate, too. That's all great. God Bless them every one!
However, the Sheep have a certain culture and they refuse to see Nintendo as a business. They completely embrace Nintendo's words defending the Wii.
Here's the truth from the horse's mouth:
Iwata When did you start feeling that way? Takeda It must have been about a year after we started developing Wii. After speaking with Nintendo's development partners, I became keenly aware of the fact that there is no end to the desire of those who just want more. Give them one, they ask for two. Give them two, and next time they will ask for five instead of three. Then they want ten, thirty, a hundred, their desire growing exponentially. Giving in to this will lead us nowhere in the end. I started to feel unsure about following that path about a year into development.
After a "year of developing the Wii", they decided to use old technology. Takeda also insults the consumer by complaining about our expectations. Microsoft and Sony met our technological expectations. Why didn't Nintendo? It's too hard for Takeda to keep up, I guess.
Nintendo is in the business to make money!!11?? :shock: No way... And Sony and Microsoft are in it for all the poor kids who don't have anything to eat, right. Why are they the bully... seriously, please explain and give examples.[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"] Nintendo are not the innocent, kid-friendly console company everyone sees. They are in the business to make money and they have maintained the status quo for the last 15 years. They never stray from their demographic. Nintendo are the current bully, despite the illusion of Miyamoto's happy smile. The Wii is the result of complacency and Nintendo fans continue to buy their products. Which comes back to my point about Sheep hypocrisy.Berserker_2
MS, Sony, and Nintendo are all businesses. They are all legitimate, too. That's all great. God Bless them every one!
However, the Sheep have a certain culture and they refuse to see Nintendo as a business. They completely embrace Nintendo's words defending the Wii.
Here's the truth from the horse's mouth:
Iwata When did you start feeling that way? Takeda It must have been about a year after we started developing Wii. After speaking with Nintendo's development partners, I became keenly aware of the fact that there is no end to the desire of those who just want more. Give them one, they ask for two. Give them two, and next time they will ask for five instead of three. Then they want ten, thirty, a hundred, their desire growing exponentially. Giving in to this will lead us nowhere in the end. I started to feel unsure about following that path about a year into development.After a "year of developing the Wii", they decided to use old technology. Takeda also insults the consumer by complaining about our expectations. Microsoft and Sony met our technological expectations. Why didn't Nintendo? It's too hard for Takeda to keep up, I guess.
Wait what does that have anythignt to do with Nintendo being a bully? And how are they insulting the consumer? All hes saying is the more power people have the more they will want. :?Well if you what you claim is true only one of them are you forced to buy and that's the one that's OMG a different console...Which company has made the most redesigns to their consoles and then sold them at a higher price?
Nintendo!
Every single handheld has had multiple iterations. The lastest is the DS Lite.
Then there's the GameCube. You can now purchase a small white GameCube for $250! Nintendo renamed it to "Wii".
Where are all of the Sheep complaining about these redesigns?
Berserker_2
Nintendo is in the business to make money!!11?? :shock: No way... And Sony and Microsoft are in it for all the poor kids who don't have anything to eat, right. Why are they the bully... seriously, please explain and give examples.[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"] Nintendo are not the innocent, kid-friendly console company everyone sees. They are in the business to make money and they have maintained the status quo for the last 15 years. They never stray from their demographic. Nintendo are the current bully, despite the illusion of Miyamoto's happy smile. The Wii is the result of complacency and Nintendo fans continue to buy their products. Which comes back to my point about Sheep hypocrisy.Berserker_2
MS, Sony, and Nintendo are all businesses. They are all legitimate, too. That's all great. God Bless them every one!
However, the Sheep have a certain culture and they refuse to see Nintendo as a business. They completely embrace Nintendo's words defending the Wii.
Here's the truth from the horse's mouth:
Iwata When did you start feeling that way? Takeda It must have been about a year after we started developing Wii. After speaking with Nintendo's development partners, I became keenly aware of the fact that there is no end to the desire of those who just want more. Give them one, they ask for two. Give them two, and next time they will ask for five instead of three. Then they want ten, thirty, a hundred, their desire growing exponentially. Giving in to this will lead us nowhere in the end. I started to feel unsure about following that path about a year into development.
After a "year of developing the Wii", they decided to use old technology. Takeda also insults the consumer by complaining about our expectations. Microsoft and Sony met our technological expectations. Why didn't Nintendo? It's too hard for Takeda to keep up, I guess.
He's talking about developer's expectations, not consumers'. If anything the Wii has consumer expectations at the forefront of its design.
Stop the generalizations about sheep. They're unflattering, and the person that they aren't flattering is you.
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