Speaking of flops, which was the bigger one: Lair or Too Human?

I would say Too Human. (Don't judge because I own a PS3)

I believe the only redeeming quality of Lair was it's graphics? While Too Human had a lot of flaws and that annoying death sequence? Not sure never played either of them.

But Lair had dragons, c'mon...DRAGONS!!

Lair: Hyped AAA got a 4.5

Too Human: Hyped AAA got a 5.5

It's simple math.

The cows will say Too Human and the Lemmings will say Lair.

One thing with Too Human is posters who wweren't Lemmings where hyping it.

I would say Too Human. (Don't judge because I own a PS3)

I believe the only redeeming quality of Lair was it's graphics? While Too Human had a lot of flaws and that annoying death sequence? Not sure never played either of them.

But Lair had dragons, c'mon...DRAGONS!!

siLVURcross

Lair: Hyped AAA got a 4.5

Too Human: Hyped AAA got a 5.5

It's simple math.

Lionheart08

Too Human: under production for over 10 years.

Lair: not.

Lair: Hyped AAA got a 4.5

Too Human: Hyped AAA got a 5.5

It's simple math.

Lionheart08

Too human was in production for 10 years and had astronomical production costs.

Lair had Dragons which make less of a flop in my eyes :P.

like I said in the other topic, it is a crime not to give this award to too human :lol: 10 years under production and preproduction to get an average score of 6-Mad_Rhetoric-

One could argue that lair was hyped more, plus too human averages 69% on gamerankings, lair averages 56%

Lair

Too Human is actually a decent game. Lair on the other hand is arguably on par with Legendary for atrociousness

[QUOTE="-Mad_Rhetoric-"]like I said in the other topic, it is a crime not to give this award to too human :lol: 10 years under production and preproduction to get an average score of 6munu9

One could argue that lair was hyped more, plus too human averages 69% on gamerankings, lair averages 56%

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Lair: Hyped AAA got a 4.5

Too Human: Hyped AAA got a 5.5

It's simple math.

Ren_eko

Too human was in production for 10 years and had astronomical production costs.

Lair had Dragons which make less of a flop in my eyes :P.

This man understands the utmost importance of the presence of dragons.

Applaud him people!

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Lair: Hyped AAA got a 4.5

Too Human: Hyped AAA got a 5.5

It's simple math.

Ren_eko

Too human was in production for 10 years and had astronomical production costs.

Lair had Dragons which make less of a flop in my eyes :P.

True enough. :P

Lair was just another game that cows hyped because of beautiful trailer just to see it flop. Cows always do that nothing new. Too Human was being hyped AAA even AAAA and some called it the Final Fantasy, or Metal Gear Solid 4 killed. Been in development for 10 years. Too Human is easily the bigger flopSnakePS360Gamer

Uh, Link? I don't remember anyone hyping it like that.

[QUOTE="Ren_eko"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Lair: Hyped AAA got a 4.5

Too Human: Hyped AAA got a 5.5

It's simple math.

Lionheart08

Too human was in production for 10 years and had astronomical production costs.

Lair had Dragons which make less of a flop in my eyes :P.

True enough. :P

Both were hilarious flops but those 10 years certainly add an extra spicy sw hilarity to the whole thing

[QUOTE="SnakePS360Gamer"]Lair was just another game that cows hyped because of beautiful trailer just to see it flop. Cows always do that nothing new. Too Human was being hyped AAA even AAAA and some called it the Final Fantasy, or Metal Gear Solid 4 killed. Been in development for 10 years. Too Human is easily the bigger flopChaos_HL21

Uh, Link? I don't remember anyone hyping it like that.

Lair was a bigger flop as most didn't expect it to flop, unlike Too Human. Sure many didn't expect Too Human to flop to that degree but still. I believe Lair is the right answer.Devil-Itachi

The previews were so damn misleading, everyone except maybe one or two site were being really nice and saying it played well. But when they actually reviewed it, the dropped 5/10's left and right.

All things considered, in the REAL WORLD it's obviously Too Human.

In SW it's a toss up, due to the fanboy population.

Too Human was SK's 10 year the making, super Online Coop, M$ paid for exclusive, Trilogy. It had So much hype, even after the demo, people were reserving it in record numbers.

Dennis Dyack went on a rampage at NEOGAF, further adding to it's ownage.

ALSO, to the noobs saying LAIR had AAA hype, stop trolling and lying. Lair was AA hype.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25892732

One could argue that lair was hyped more

munu9

All things considered, in the REAL WORLD it's obviously Too Human.

In SW it's a toss up, due to the fanboy population.

Too Human was SK's 10 year the making, super Online Coop, M$ paid for exclusive, Trilogy. It had So much hype, even after the demo, people were reserving it in record numbers.

Dennis Dyack went on a rampage at NEOGAF, further adding to it's ownage.

SolidTy

[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="SnakePS360Gamer"]Lair was just another game that cows hyped because of beautiful trailer just to see it flop. Cows always do that nothing new. Too Human was being hyped AAA even AAAA and some called it the Final Fantasy, or Metal Gear Solid 4 killed. Been in development for 10 years. Too Human is easily the bigger flopSnakePS360Gamer

Uh, Link? I don't remember anyone hyping it like that.

I'm sure if you dig deep enough you'll find afew lemmings doing that. But it would be the same thing with Lair and Haze.

[QUOTE="SnakePS360Gamer"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="SnakePS360Gamer"]Lair was just another game that cows hyped because of beautiful trailer just to see it flop. Cows always do that nothing new. Too Human was being hyped AAA even AAAA and some called it the Final Fantasy, or Metal Gear Solid 4 killed. Been in development for 10 years. Too Human is easily the bigger flopChaos_HL21

Uh, Link? I don't remember anyone hyping it like that.

I'm sure if you dig deep enough you'll find afew lemmings doing that. But it would be the same thing with Lair and Haze.

Lair was a much bigger flop anyone who disagrees is a fanboy. Lair was hyped like some ps3 saviour while too human wasnt hyped as much especially after its lame appearance at E3 06 or whenever it was shown. Alot of lemmings agreed too human would suck but cows on the other hand were hyping lair like it will kill 360. so Lair is a major flop and it also scored lower then too humanmingo123

Lair was supposed to be a graphical powerhouse that would wipe the floor with 360s.

Too Human was plagued with problems from the start and most fans were just hoping that it would get fix and be a good game. But it was quite obvious to everyone it would be either a failure or success.

The answer it Lair.

Oh so we're basing flops on production time and not fan hype now?

P.S. I don't remember the 360 being around for 10 years...

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Lair: Hyped AAA got a 4.5

Too Human: Hyped AAA got a 5.5

It's simple math.

BrownWalrus

Too Human: under production for over 10 years.

Lair: not.

Oh so we're basing flops on production time and not fan hype now?

P.S. I don't remember the 360 being around for 10 years...

Blue-Sky

Putting scores aside,

atleast Too Human was good.

Lair was hyped down to AA/A.

Too Human was hyped AAA /AAAA.

Too Human wins.

Just about everyone was laughing at Too Human before it was released, while people still thought that Lair could be a good game.

I'd definitely have to give it to Lair.

Just about everyone was laughing at Too Human before it was released, while people still thought that Lair could be a good game.

I'd definitely have to give it to Lair.

Planeforger

Lair is horrible, not even playable imo

Lair: Hyped AAA got a 4.5

Too Human: Hyped AAA got a 5.5

It's simple math.

Lionheart08

Lair was hyped down to AA/A.

Too Human was hyped AAA /AAAA.

Too Human wins.

XenogearsMaster

Sorry, but Too Human hype was AA/A there were only 3 people that predicted AAA. Lair was hyped way higher, quit spinning the obvious...Lair = biggest flop by far...

lair was hyped AAA all the time antil the review

too human was hyped AAA but when the previews started to show up the hyped go down to AA\A and when the demo camesout the hyped was A

so yes lair was a biger flop

honestly, Too Human. 10 years in the making, yet still a flop, after all the hype.MightyMuna

can people stop using this stupid arguement? the game WAS NOT developed for 10 years straight. It underwent many engine-transitions, story and gameplay changes under it's time-lap. They also put it to rest for years while they did other games. Too Human (the one in the stores now) is only 3-4 years old.

Lair. What? Can't a cow admit that his game flopped?StewieZim101

Too Human.What?Can't a lemming admit this game flopped?

I can do it too :P.

Too human was hyped AAA? When?

I thought it was A/AA

Anyway, I like too human a lot and havent played lair.

Yeah Spore is definitely the bigger flop. Hermits/PC fanboys said that game had an easy lock on GOTY/AAAA. The gaming media said the game would be revolutionary and groundbreaking and hyped it to hell. "zomg it's teh guy who made teh sims this is gunna be revolootionary!!!"