Splinter Cell Conviction gameplay, MGS4 owned?

[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"] I know these are old but it pisses me off everytime I see footage of the game. Ubisoft, I'm going to give you a hint. The thing that made the games great was the stealth, not sam being emo after his daughter died, not same being a hobo. Stop fing with the series and make another game like chaos theory. /rantorganic_machine

The reason he has the homeless look is because... gee I don't know... he's a wanted man. Remember DA? How can he recover from that? How can he go back to being a regular agent? It wouldn;t make sense unless it was a prequel. And even then, we wouldn't want to end the series there.

I do remeber da and at the end you had a choice to kill lambert or not. They could have it where the third echelon can forgive him because they need him for another job. Not a wanted man on the streets. The series was great because of the stealth and the gadgets. On the streets I'm guessing he wont have either of that... ie killing the series.

The series was great because of the stealth and the gadgets. On the streets I'm guessing he wont have either of that... ie killing the series.

Lemmywinks_360

Not neccesarily. You can still conceptually have a stealth game out in the open. It is a different kind of stealth where you have to hide in the crowds and manage them well. Those videos don't really show that and the vids that do don't look compelling... which is why I am guessing they have put this game off.

And in response to the story, I didn't finish the 360 version. The xbox version only had bad endings.

[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"]

The series was great because of the stealth and the gadgets. On the streets I'm guessing he wont have either of that... ie killing the series.

organic_machine

Not neccesarily. You can still conceptually have a stealth game out in the open. It is a different kind of stealth where you have to hide in the crowds and manage them well. Those videos don't really show that and the vids that do don't look compelling... which is why I am guessing they have put this game off.

And in response to the story, I didn't finish the 360 version. The xbox version only had bad endings.

There are 3 endings I believe depending on what you did in the game. The good ending he blows up the boat that is holding the nuke in the harbor. The bad ending is where is nuke goes off in NYC.

TC thanks for posting that I didn't know there was gameplay, never saw it before.

Splinter Cell is one of my favorite franchises and i'm sure Conviction will be amazing as well.

I could tell why they delayed the game for an overhaul though, that gameplay demo looks dated compared to today's standards, Assassins Creed already did stuff like that and you can pick up objects and stuff in a lot of games now not with your hands per say but single objects and physics like that aren't WOW anymore, so I guess they're going to try to add a lot more stuff to make it fresh and new by the time it comes out.

Hopefully it turns out good, but based on the amount of time they're spending on it it gets me a little worried for it. It's not like Ubisoft is a small dev or anything.

By the way i'd like to add as much as I like Splinter Cell it's not going to trump MGS4. The reason MGS4 is so great is because of it's story, Kojima's direction, and the characters involved, without even mentioning the gameplay. Splinter Cell always has lame stories, with cliche characters, and the direction is far from great, Splinter Cell relies on it's fantastic gameplay, which was always unique and different, hopefully Conviction can keep the series alive.

[QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"]

The series was great because of the stealth and the gadgets. On the streets I'm guessing he wont have either of that... ie killing the series.

Lemmywinks_360

Not neccesarily. You can still conceptually have a stealth game out in the open. It is a different kind of stealth where you have to hide in the crowds and manage them well. Those videos don't really show that and the vids that do don't look compelling... which is why I am guessing they have put this game off.

And in response to the story, I didn't finish the 360 version. The xbox version only had bad endings.

There are 3 endings I believe depending on what you did in the game. The good ending he blows up the boat that is holding the nuke in the harbor. The bad ending is where is nuke goes off in NYC.

That's funny. The last gen version was nothing at all like that. There were only bad endings in the xbox/ps/gc version. Some were worse than others, but the best ending was unsettling at best.

I freakin' love Splinter Cell. I can't wait for this gem! Snake ain't got nothing on Sam Fisher ! ! !

[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"]

There are 3 endings I believe depending on what you did in the game. The good ending he blows up the boat that is holding the nuke in the harbor. The bad ending is where is nuke goes off in NYC.

organic_machine

That's funny. The last gen version was nothing at all like that. There were only bad endings in the xbox/ps/gc version. Some were worse than others, but the best ending was unsettling at best.

HERE is the video of the xbox 1 and ps2 and GC ending.

[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"][QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"]

The series was great because of the stealth and the gadgets. On the streets I'm guessing he wont have either of that... ie killing the series.

organic_machine

Not neccesarily. You can still conceptually have a stealth game out in the open. It is a different kind of stealth where you have to hide in the crowds and manage them well. Those videos don't really show that and the vids that do don't look compelling... which is why I am guessing they have put this game off.

And in response to the story, I didn't finish the 360 version. The xbox version only had bad endings.

There are 3 endings I believe depending on what you did in the game. The good ending he blows up the boat that is holding the nuke in the harbor. The bad ending is where is nuke goes off in NYC.

That's funny. The last gen version was nothing at all like that. There were only bad endings in the xbox/ps/gc version. Some were worse than others, but the best ending was unsettling at best.

Wierd that they would make different endings for different verisons. I just watched the ps2/xbox/gc ending and its much better and darker than the 360/ps3/pc versions.

Wierd that they would make different endings for different verisons. I just watched the ps2/xbox/gc ending and its much better and darker than the 360/ps3/pc versions.

Lemmywinks_360

Yeah I know, rite? And considering the same developing studio that made it is working on Conviction, I would assume the last gen version was canon.Thats why I wasn't surprised to see Sam end up the way he is in Conviction.

[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"]

Wierd that they would make different endings for different verisons. I just watched the ps2/xbox/gc ending and its much better and darker than the 360/ps3/pc versions.

organic_machine

Yeah I know, rite? And considering the same developing studio that made it is working on Conviction, I would assume the last gen version was canon.Thats why I wasn't surprised to see Sam end up the way he is in Conviction.

That does make ALOT more sense then if they used the 360/ps3 version endings and made him a hobo.

That does make ALOT more sense then if they used the 360/ps3 version endings and made him a hobo.

Lemmywinks_360

It would be funny if the reason the better game was released on the last gen consoles because Montreal lost a bet to Shanghai or something! :lol:

[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"]

That does make ALOT more sense then if they used the 360/ps3 version endings and made him a hobo.

organic_machine

It would be funny if the reason the better game was released on the last gen consoles because Montreal lost a bet to Shanghai or something! :lol:

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