Splinter Cell Demo IS here

How does it look like . Is it THE graphics king on consoles?Salt_The_Fries

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Sooo, how's everyone feel about the demo?anshul89

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Sooo, how's everyone feel about the demo?anshul89

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="chaplainDMK"]

I doubt its a timed exclusive.

Revolution316

I don't doubt it.

This is what I did to come to my belief :

1. Looking at Splinter Cell's entire History regarding multiplat status,
   
2. Looking at Ubisoft's History as a 3rd Party company,
   
3. Looking at 3rd Parties multiplatform agnostic policies this entire generation,
   
4. Looking at the History of Xbox Timed Exclusive Releases and 3rd Party Timed Deals,
   
5. Looking at the install base of the PS3 34 Million (about 5 Million away from 360's install base),
   
6. Looking at NDA's within the game industry, and understanding how NDA's work, and why NDA's are employed,
   
7. and most importantly, Reading Ubisoft Montreal CEO Yannis Mallat and Lead Splinter Cell : Conviction's Designer Stephen Masters various statements regarding the Splinter Cell : Conviction's Future, I don't doubt at all.

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Two Quotes and Links for you. :P

Link & Quote #1, Ubisoft Montreal CEO Yannis Mallat :

"VideoGamer.com: We're a multiplatform website, and we have many PS3-owning readers who would love to play Splinter Cell: Conviction. Do you have any message for them? Is there any hope for them regarding the game?

Yannis Mallat: There is always hope.

VideoGamer.com: Does that mean Splinter Cell: Conviction might come to the PS3?

Yannis Mallat: I can't predict the future. But it's good to hear that people who can't play Splinter Cell are willing to.

While Mallat's comments do not confirm Conviction's arrival on the PS3, they are cryptic enough to suggest Splinter Cell's days on PS3 may not be over."

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Link & Quote #2, Lead Designer Stephen Masters of Splinter Cell : Conviction :

"Don't you dare question the ability of the Splinter Cell: Conviction developers. According tolead designer Stephen Masters, the team "could easily" create the amazing looking sequel for PlayStation 3. That doesn't mean they're going to, however. If it's not a lack of technical know-how, why wouldn't Splinter Cell be coming to Sony's black box o' Blu-ray?

"Well that's purely a business decision. That's it," he explains. "Ubisoft as a company now has a lot of experience with PS3. Our processes, tools, techniques are very well-developed -- we could absolutely execute on the PS3 if we had the opportunity, but like I said it was a business decision."

A business decision? That's one, very tactful way, of putting it, but there's no need for Ubisoft to be so coy. Just tell us many many zeros Microsoft wrote on that check and we'll say no more about it. "

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That's just two interviews, there has been other statements, articles, sites, etc.

I'm not too worried about it at any rate, I have the 360 version reserved (why wait?), but I've been keeping track of the news for the game, and this stuff comes up all the time. It's been in development almost as long as Alan Wake.

I'm more inclined to believe it's timed. Officially, "It's only for PC and 360" though.

You must have missed this part of that quote :

"It's a timed exclusive for PC and 360 at this point...but still, check PSN just in case.:P"

"Just wait and see how Ubisoft plays this out, officially there is no word."

It's right there when you quoted me. :P

I completely agree it's an educated guess, there is no certainty. After all, "officially there is no word"! :PSolidTy

Officially there is a word. SC:C is exclusive to PC/360. The series as a whole however, I fully expect to go multiplat AFTER SC:C.

Well, it's just a demo, but it certainly has a shot when the final game is released.

I will be busting through this demo a few times, for sure! I own the entire series and I beat them on the toughest settings.:P

SolidTy

Lol, once you develop a perfectionistic habit of doing things in Splinter Cell series, then there's virtually no difference between the difficulty settings :P.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

You must have missed this part of that quote :

"It's a timed exclusive for PC and 360 at this point...but still, check PSN just in case.:P"

"Just wait and see how Ubisoft plays this out, officially there is no word."

It's right there when you quoted me. :P

I completely agree it's an educated guess, there is no certainty. After all, "officially there is no word"! :Pmythrol

Officially there is a word. SC:C is exclusive to PC/360. The series as a whole however, I fully expect to go multiplat AFTER SC:C.

I said there is no certainty above and over and over in this thread. :|

You had to have read through this thread to find that post, so everything I can possibly say on the SC:C matter has been said regarding NDA's, Timed deals, etc.

I see you feel differently, and that's perfectly fine.

It's not like when I end up being right about things, people PM me and let me know a year later, so it's all good. It's just speculation on both sides.
I do see you have an interesting take on the series direction after SC:C though...it's possible. :P

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Well, it's just a demo, but it certainly has a shot when the final game is released.

I will be busting through this demo a few times, for sure! I own the entire series and I beat them on the toughest settings.:P

Salt_The_Fries

Lol, once you develop a perfectionistic habit of doing things in Splinter Cell series, then there's virtually no difference between the difficulty settings :P.

Uh oh...you are on to my one of my secrets of gaming. :P

[QUOTE="mythrol"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

You must have missed this part of that quote :

"It's a timed exclusive for PC and 360 at this point...but still, check PSN just in case.:P"

"Just wait and see how Ubisoft plays this out, officially there is no word."

It's right there when you quoted me. :P

I completely agree it's an educated guess, there is no certainty. After all, "officially there is no word"! :PSolidTy

Officially there is a word. SC:C is exclusive to PC/360. The series as a whole however, I fully expect to go multiplat AFTER SC:C.

I said there is no certainty above and over and over in this thread. :|

You had to have read through this thread to find that post, so everything I can possibly say on the SC:C matter has been said regarding NDA's, Timed deals, etc.

I see you feel differently, and that's perfectly fine.

It's not like when I end up being right about things, people PM me and let me know a year later, so it's all good. It's just speculation on both sides.
I do see you have an interesting take on the series direction after SC:C though...it's possible. :P

I'm not saying that it won't happen. I'm saying that OFFICIALLY there actually IS a word out right now. The game is PC / 360 exclusive. At some time that word might change, but that's not what your statement was.

As far as my opinion goes, I think the series will go multiplat after SC:C.

The demo is amazing it was a little short but it was intense. I predict a solid 9.0 here.

So does the game look good ? Like those high res screens I see all the time of the game. Or do i have to wait for the game to come out for the PC

Not a fan of Splinter Cell but its worth a try. -goes to play it on Realistic- yeah i know i'm crazy.

I'm not saying that it won't happen. I'm saying that OFFICIALLY there actually IS a word out right now. The game is PC / 360 exclusive. At some time that word might change, but that's not what your statement was.

As far as my opinion goes, I think the series will go multiplat after SC:C.

mythrol

I got that, now you repeated yourself. You went through this thread, and found that word "official" that I misused (?), and stuck to that word. Props.

You got me on that word.:P Forget context, all my research, quotes, links and all my other posts in this thread, your research has been rewarded when you found me chatting with another user. :P

I will just say you are right man. :)

My sentence was referring to "officially there is no word (of a PS3 version from Ubisoft)", but either way, that word "official" is a problem, and I get that. Ah well.:P

Just so it's clear, I meant that "officially Ubisoft can't tell us of a PS3 version", but it's all in the way the sentence is structured.

As far as your opinion regarding the future of the SC franchise, it's certainly a possibility.

I got that, now you repeated yourself. You went through, found that word "official", and stuck to that. Props.

You got me on that word.:P Forget context, all my research, quotes, and links and all my other posts in this thread, your research has been rewarded when you found me chatting with another user. :P

My sentence was referring to "officially there is no word of a PS3 version", but either way, that word official is a problem, and I get that. Ah well.:P

As far as your opinion regarding the future of the SC franchise, it's certainly a possibility.SolidTy

Yes I've read your quotes and links, I take it to mean that they plan to bring the SC series to the PS3.

Here, I'll provide a link since you seem to really like mentioning them.

Edge Online Interview with Max Beland - Creative Director of SC:C

When asked if Splinter Cell has a future on the PS3 -

"I don't see why it wouldn't. I'm not involved in the business deals. I joined Splinter Cell after the exclusivity deal with Microsoft had already been signed, but there's no reason why Splinter Cell couldn't be on the PS3. Conviction? No because of the exclusivity deal. I know people keep talking about maybe, maybe not, [but] at Ubisoft Montreal I haven't seen anyone working on PS3 for Conviction."

This is why I believe the way I do. SC:C will be exclusive. The series however, will go multiplat after.

Sorry, I couldn't quote you :

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Still, That's a good quote! :)

I've read that one in the past at some point as well, but I couldn't remember the source. It confirms that there was definitely a deal and it's signing.

However, if an NDA is in place...he may have just said that to throw people off the trail, so ensure great sales, which is perfectly understandable.

It's also possible he's telling the truth.

Still, it's a good quote, and I see your reasoning much better now. :P

I still am not convinced considering the nature of NDA"s, but it's definitely a great quote. Thanks man. :)

I don't ultimately care either way, as I preordered the 360 version, but it's fun to chat about.

How does it look like . Is it THE graphics king on consoles?Salt_The_Fries

LOL, no :P

About developers/publishers credibility:

"There will be no PS3 version of BioShock. It has been explained time and time again."

:P

Still feels like a stealth game. Still feels like a Splinter Cell game.

It's just more quicker and even more smoother now.

Graphics are pretty nice, but I wasn't blown away or anything. Mostly the in-game stuff looks the best, but the cutscenes are a litle crude, imo.

Nice, will definitely DL it later on.

[QUOTE="zero_snake99"]Is this screen tearing for anyone else? It's giving me a bad headache. No joke. It's worse than me trying to run Oblivion on my old PC when it came out... GUH! Anyway, the gameplay is decent. The quick kills are awesome but they seem to make it less "stealth" which I don't like. I've enjoyed the SC games for it's slow paced, walking around as a hunched man at 1ft/sec speed. When I go to my bros house again, I'll try it on realistic... to see how that is.AAllxxjjnn

Definitely will have to play through the full game at some point.

Hearing that they took away the vs. from Chaos Theory I am sooooo dissapointed.....

I unfortunately didn't get to experience the online too much then and I was really hoping to have lots of fun with that....

Still, I do remember having good fun with the co-op so I will have to check it out.

And yeah, the executions are awesome.

So does the game look good ? Like those high res screens I see all the time of the game. Or do i have to wait for the game to come out for the PC

GTSaiyanjin2

Just played the demo on insane and i'm very disappointed. it is impossible to play by strictly being stealthy. the enemies stand facing each other the whole time. also the AI is retarded since they just empty their bullets at the last known position, they don't bother to look around. in previous games they would actually look around your last known position rather than shoot at it. also this game is way more linear than the previous games. chaos theory had huge levels with various points of entry and enough room to look at a situation from different angles. finally, it took me about 4 minutes to finish the demo on insane without being detected by just using my pistol the whole time. ubisoft managed to turn the best stealth game into a mediocre action game.

Just played the demo on insane and i'm very disappointed. it is impossible to play by strictly being stealthy. the enemies stand facing each other the whole time. also the AI is retarded since they just empty their bullets at the last known position, they don't bother to look around. in previous games they would actually look around your last known position rather than shoot at it. also this game is way more linear than the previous games. chaos theory had huge levels with various points of entry and enough room to look at a situation from different angles. finally, it took me about 4 minutes to finish the demo on insane without being detected by just using my pistol the whole time. ubisoft managed to turn the best stealth game into a mediocre action game.

civic_misfit

Huh? The enemies come around and look around the last known position area. :|

Just played the demo on insane and i'm very disappointed. it is impossible to play by strictly being stealthy. the enemies stand facing each other the whole time. also the AI is retarded since they just empty their bullets at the last known position, they don't bother to look around. in previous games they would actually look around your last known position rather than shoot at it. also this game is way more linear than the previous games. chaos theory had huge levels with various points of entry and enough room to look at a situation from different angles. finally, it took me about 4 minutes to finish the demo on insane without being detected by just using my pistol the whole time. ubisoft managed to turn the best stealth game into a mediocre action game.

civic_misfit

[QUOTE="civic_misfit"]

Just played the demo on insane and i'm very disappointed. it is impossible to play by strictly being stealthy. the enemies stand facing each other the whole time. also the AI is retarded since they just empty their bullets at the last known position, they don't bother to look around. in previous games they would actually look around your last known position rather than shoot at it. also this game is way more linear than the previous games. chaos theory had huge levels with various points of entry and enough room to look at a situation from different angles. finally, it took me about 4 minutes to finish the demo on insane without being detected by just using my pistol the whole time. ubisoft managed to turn the best stealth game into a mediocre action game.

BioShockOwnz

Huh? The enemies come around and look around the last known position area. :|

the demo reminds me that i haven't actually played any stealth games since MGS4 came out (even longer since i played Splinter Cell)

have to get used to stealth again... the controls are ace tho

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="civic_misfit"]

Just played the demo on insane and i'm very disappointed. it is impossible to play by strictly being stealthy. the enemies stand facing each other the whole time. also the AI is retarded since they just empty their bullets at the last known position, they don't bother to look around. in previous games they would actually look around your last known position rather than shoot at it. also this game is way more linear than the previous games. chaos theory had huge levels with various points of entry and enough room to look at a situation from different angles. finally, it took me about 4 minutes to finish the demo on insane without being detected by just using my pistol the whole time. ubisoft managed to turn the best stealth game into a mediocre action game.

civic_misfit

Huh? The enemies come around and look around the last known position area. :|

No, definitely not. All the enemies came around to my last known position.

Still feels like a stealth game. Still feels like a Splinter Cell game.

It's just more quicker and even more smoother now.

Graphics are pretty nice, but I wasn't blown away or anything. Mostly the in-game stuff looks the best, but the cutscenes are a litle crude, imo.

BioShockOwnz

There are some questionable design choices. Mark and execute does feel pretty cheap, it's too easy to rely on it to bail you out. It also allows you to track targets through walls. And the screen going monochrome when you're hidden can't be the best solution. What was wrong with the light on Sam's back? Also the claw thing when you earn the power-up. What the **** is that about?

Also it's rather contrived when the enemies lose sight of you and they just sit on their asses staring at your last known position. Looking at it as a playground for you to plan and experiment it's nice that the game's more lenient when you foul up and allows you to play around some, but you know, things like that feel kind of odd. Doesn't really feel like you're outsmarting your opponents, it's not as satisfying when the game helps you out like that.

Game resolution is:

1040x585 2xAA

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?p=1409467#post1409467

I just can't stand these new trends where demos became "exclusives".

It's just incredibly stupid.

Game resolution is:

1040x585 2xAA

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?p=1409467#post1409467

sayonara89

[QUOTE="sayonara89"]

Game resolution is:

1040x585 2xAA

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?p=1409467#post1409467

[QUOTE="anshul89"]

[QUOTE="sayonara89"]

Game resolution is:

1040x585 2xAA

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?p=1409467#post1409467

mtradr43

[QUOTE="mtradr43"][QUOTE="anshul89"]LOL. My PC will run it at 4 times the resolution and double the frame rate :lol:

anshul89

wow, this was alot better than I expected...very fun. It's different from the previous SCs. Sam Fisher is a bit of Jason Bournish now. Anyways this looks like a day one buy.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Well, it's just a demo, but it certainly has a shot when the final game is released.

I will be busting through this demo a few times, for sure! I own the entire series and I beat them on the toughest settings.:P

Lol, once you develop a perfectionistic habit of doing things in Splinter Cell series, then there's virtually no difference between the difficulty settings :P.

Game resolution is:

1040x585 2xAA

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?p=1409467#post1409467

sayonara89