Splinter Cell flops, Alan Wake turns out to be 540p - Year of the 360??

I don't even know why people try to say its year of the 360 when none of their games can match that of ps3 games. I mean SC Conviction < MGS4 in terms of points according to GS. and AW doesn't look anywhere near the quality of Uncharted 2 which got a 9.5. How can Lemmings come up with the idea that this is this year? Can't they admit that since MGS4, its been and will always be the year of the 360. The ps3 has been pumping GOTY after GOTY like MGS4, Demons Souls, Uncharted 2 at IGN. I mean its ridiculous how lemmings don't see this and they keep defending their 360s even after they have gone through 4 systems that have RRODed. Do they even have any logic?pstripl3

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="Giancar"] playing the SW meta game? nahhhhh (and there are more multi games like BC2 that scored AAA, and you can play Bayonetta still in the ps3) *turns SW meta game on* oh and by your logic AAAe, and a handfull of AAe are nothing? how many exclusives games has gotten the 360 so far? nothing? *turns it off* I can play the game too :oGiancar

Like I said, I can play (X+1) AAA games on 360 and (X) AAA games on PS3, any AAA games, be it exclusive or not, that's what matters. You didn't answer my question, if it's not exclusive, does it mean I can't play an AAA game for the platform? :roll:

If I can, that proves my point→ you can play more AAA games on 360 than PS3 for this year. Can you disprove this? please go ahead and try.

[QUOTE="pstripl3"]

I don't even know why people try to say its year of the 360 when none of their games can match that of ps3 games. I mean SC Conviction < MGS4 in terms of points according to GS. and AW doesn't look anywhere near the quality of Uncharted 2 which got a 9.5. How can Lemmings come up with the idea that this is this year? Can't they admit that since MGS4, its been and will always be the year of the 360. The ps3 has been pumping GOTY after GOTY like MGS4, Demons Souls, Uncharted 2 at IGN. I mean its ridiculous how lemmings don't see this and they keep defending their 360s even after they have gone through 4 systems that have RRODed. Do they even have any logic?

ohthemanatee

I think he meant uncharted2 won GOTY at IGN , demons souls won here.

where did the TC go all of a sudden?lawlessx

i wanna know too...lol

SC did not flop. You're really making fun of resolution? Really?

Alan wake is 720p.

Like I said, I can play (X+1) AAA games on 360 and (X) AAA games on PS3, any AAA games, be it exclusive or not, that's what matters. You didn't answer my question, if it's not exclusive, does it mean I can't play an AAA game for the platform? :roll:

If I can, that proves my point→ you can play more AAA games on 360 than PS3 for this year. Can you disprove this? please go ahead and try.

themyth01

and PS3 owners can play the same game that got AAA in the 360 Bayonetta, just a not so great version

Xbox 360 gets a great game the PS3 and Wii do not. And Alan Wake was confirmed to be 720p.Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="themyth01"]

Like I said, I can play (X+1) AAA games on 360 and (X) AAA games on PS3, any AAA games, be it exclusive or not, that's what matters. You didn't answer my question, if it's not exclusive, does it mean I can't play an AAA game for the platform? :roll:

If I can, that proves my point→ you can play more AAA games on 360 than PS3 for this year. Can you disprove this? please go ahead and try.

Giancar

and PS3 owners can play the same game that got AAA in the 360 Bayonetta, just a not so great version

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]where did the TC go all of a sudden?KarateeeChop

i wanna know too...lol

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"] 2 AAAs > 1 AAA, am I right?themyth01

For 2010 thus far...

PC (14 total, 7 exclusive)
2 AAA
9 AA (4 AAE) (1 expansion)
3 A (3 AE) (1 expansion)

PS3 (19 total, 5 exclusive)
3 AAA (1 AAAE) (1 expansion)
11 AA (4 AAE)
5 A

XBOX 360 (15 total, -1 exclusive)
3 AAA (-1 E)
7 AA
5 A

Wii (9 total, 6 exclusive)
5 AA (3 AAE)
4 A (3 AE)

By your logic Dragon Age can't be played on the 360 in 2009? Great logic.

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"][QUOTE="lawlessx"] http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/32186/t1140135-mgs-4-only-running-in-576p-upscaled/

here's my research

lawlessx

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Xbox 360 gets a great game the PS3 and Wii do not. And Alan Wake was confirmed to be 720p.djsifer01

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"] so your source is the same as the TC's? he really must've felt that one :lol:Duckyindiana

sure doesn't look like it

Regarding Splinter Cell: Conviction --

We have two hype threads:

1. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27253602Created by kozzy1234
   1. This thread had a hype of AAA with 59 votes, and AA with 36 votes
2. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27247836Created by Ninja-Bear
   1. This thread had a hype of AA with 113 votes, and a AAA with 84 votes

If we were to add these together we have a hype of AA with 149 votes over the AAA hype of 143 votes. Therefore Splinter Cell: Conviction is a AA hyped game: hype met. Or maybe we should take the thread that was created first as the true hype thread? Then it is still the thread that hyped Conviction AA.

Regarding Alan Wake --

The game looks absolutely fantastic, and more importantly the gameplay and storytelling appear to be much better than the graphics, no?http://www.gamestar.de/index.cfm?pid=1589&pk=13802

[QUOTE="themyth01"]

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]Correct. Except none of the systems have only 1 AAA.

For 2010 thus far...

PC (14 total, 7 exclusive)
2 AAA
9 AA (4 AAE) (1 expansion)
3 A (3 AE) (1 expansion)

PS3 (19 total, 5 exclusive)
3 AAA (1 AAAE) (1 expansion)
11 AA (4 AAE)
5 A

XBOX 360 (15 total, -1 exclusive)
3 AAA (-1 E)
7 AA
5 A

Wii (9 total, 6 exclusive)
5 AA (3 AAE)
4 A (3 AE)

shinrabanshou

By your logic Dragon Age can't be played on the 360 in 2009? Great logic.

And the quality of Dragon Age on 360 is not AAA, so an AAA quality game (on non-360 platforms) cannot indeed be played on the 360, since its quality is AA. So Dragon Age makes an AA quality game on the 360 and thus does not belong to the set of AAA games of the 360 for 2009.

[QUOTE="djsifer01"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Xbox 360 gets a great game the PS3 and Wii do not. And Alan Wake was confirmed to be 720p.Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]where did the TC go all of a sudden?Ninja-Hippo

i wanna know too...lol

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

i wanna know too...lol

lawlessx

What did happen to kenny? I remember he kept tripping over if he was a cow or lem. I sometimes swear that there were two seperate people posting on one account. Did he get banned?

Last year several pages of threads were made about whether to consider the expansion, an AAA game, and the conclusion was that it was not (imagine what a great year for the 360 2008 would have been otherwise), you can still check SW post history. The consensus was that the score belonged to the already released game, rather than treating the expansion as new game. As such I'm strictly referring to games. Which is how I arrived at my conclusion. You can start a new thread to change that perception, "Is an expansion a game?" and maybe a new consensus will be reached, until then, my point stands.

themyth01

One could look at the year thus far and say the PC is "winning" as it has the most games that are solely on the platform, or the PS3 since it has the most games added total.

I'm not quite seeing how one would determine the 360 is "winning" the year because it has "more AAAs not on the PS3." It's not the most conventional of metrics.

Splinter Cell is fine, Alan Wake is 720 (and resolution doesn't really affect much.) As opposed too Heavy FLOP, MAG (Which most stopped caring and stopped playing) Some slew of JRPG garbage. And a racer cows have been hyping since the dawn of time. lol Back to ME2.

SC was not a flop and Alan Wake looks amazing. What does the PS3 really have left for this year? Mario Kart and Zelda ripoffs? GT5, that doesn't even have a release date? lol

[QUOTE="themyth01"] Last year several pages of threads were made about whether to consider the expansion, an AAA game, and the conclusion was that it was not (imagine what a great year for the 360 2008 would have been otherwise), you can still check SW post history. The consensus was that the score belonged to the already released game, rather than treating the expansion as new game. As such I'm strictly referring to games. Which is how I arrived at my conclusion. You can start a new thread to change that perception, "Is an expansion a game?" and maybe a new consensus will be reached, until then, my point stands.

shinrabanshou

You should know how SW works. It only counts if it's toward your argument.

[QUOTE="themyth01"] Last year several pages of threads were made about whether to consider the expansion, an AAA game, and the conclusion was that it was not (imagine what a great year for the 360 2008 would have been otherwise), you can still check SW post history. The consensus was that the score belonged to the already released game, rather than treating the expansion as new game. As such I'm strictly referring to games. Which is how I arrived at my conclusion. You can start a new thread to change that perception, "Is an expansion a game?" and maybe a new consensus will be reached, until then, my point stands.

shinrabanshou

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"] Last year several pages of threads were made about whether to consider the expansion, an AAA game, and the conclusion was that it was not (imagine what a great year for the 360 2008 would have been otherwise), you can still check SW post history. The consensus was that the score belonged to the already released game, rather than treating the expansion as new game. As such I'm strictly referring to games. Which is how I arrived at my conclusion. You can start a new thread to change that perception, "Is an expansion a game?" and maybe a new consensus will be reached, until then, my point stands.

OneLazyAsian

You should know how SW works. It only counts if it's toward your argument.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] If you ask me your thread-making privileges should be revoked/suspended temporarily in cases like this. It is unfair that we allow people to make a thread only to abandon it minutes later when its premise is shot down. Give it 24 hours, then come back and post another one. If that doesn't go your way, rinse and repeat. That's not contributing good threads at all.OneLazyAsian

What did happen to kenny? I remember he kept tripping over if he was a cow or lem. I sometimes swear that there were two seperate people posting on one account. Did he get banned?

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"] Last year several pages of threads were made about whether to consider the expansion, an AAA game, and the conclusion was that it was not (imagine what a great year for the 360 2008 would have been otherwise), you can still check SW post history. The consensus was that the score belonged to the already released game, rather than treating the expansion as new game. As such I'm strictly referring to games. Which is how I arrived at my conclusion. You can start a new thread to change that perception, "Is an expansion a game?" and maybe a new consensus will be reached, until then, my point stands.

themyth01

[QUOTE="themyth01"] Last year several pages of threads were made about whether to consider the expansion, an AAA game, and the conclusion was that it was not (imagine what a great year for the 360 2008 would have been otherwise), you can still check SW post history. The consensus was that the score belonged to the already released game, rather than treating the expansion as new game. As such I'm strictly referring to games. Which is how I arrived at my conclusion. You can start a new thread to change that perception, "Is an expansion a game?" and maybe a new consensus will be reached, until then, my point stands.

shinrabanshou

One could look at the year thus far and say the PC is "winning" as it has the most games that are solely on the platform, or the PS3 since it has the most games added total.

I'm not quite seeing how one would determine the 360 is "winning" the year because it has "more AAAs not on the PS3." It's not the most conventional of metrics.

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]So EfLC isn't considered a game? And wasn't listed as such (and as an exclusive) on the spreadsheet for the 360? And isn't currently listed as such on the spreadsheet?

shinrabanshou

[QUOTE="OneLazyAsian"]

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]So EfLC isn't considered a game? And wasn't listed as such (and as an exclusive) on the spreadsheet for the 360? And isn't currently listed as such on the spreadsheet?

themyth01

You should know how SW works. It only counts if it's toward your argument.

Exactly my point. I think some mod should someday get around to making an official set of rules so all this side stepping and hypocrisy would stop.

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="OneLazyAsian"]

You should know how SW works. It only counts if it's toward your argument.

OneLazyAsian

Exactly my point. I think some mod should someday get around to making an official set of rules so all this side stepping and hypocrisy would stop.

Regarding Splinter Cell: Conviction --

We have two hype threads:

1. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27253602Created by kozzy1234
   1. This thread had a hype of AAA with 59 votes, and AA with 36 votes
2. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27247836Created by Ninja-Bear
   1. This thread had a hype of AA with 113 votes, and a AAA with 84 votes

If we were to add these together we have a hype of AA with 149 votes over the AAA hype of 143 votes. Therefore Splinter Cell: Conviction is a AA hyped game: hype met. Or maybe we should take the thread that was created first as the true hype thread? Then it is still the thread that hyped Conviction AA.

Regarding Alan Wake --

The game looks absolutely fantastic, and more importantly the gameplay and storytelling appear to be much better than the graphics, no?http://www.gamestar.de/index.cfm?pid=1589&pk=13802

R3FURBISHED

Somebody better find a broom, we have a thread that needs to be swept under the rug ;).

Even if it were a flop, it's a multiplat, or is it only a multiplat when it flops I'm confused.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]

The 360 is really messing up it's "best year EVAAARRR!!"

thetruespin

to counter these claims, Remedy has clarified the situation with an official statement on the Alan Wake forums.

Community Manager stated: "The game is 720p. Those screenshots are based off footage captured at 960x540 like cocorenut pointed out, of course there will be some downsampling involved

From MarkusRMD (Remedy Managing Director) i.e.http://forum.alanwake.com/showpost.php?p=67334&postcount=595

BxB402 This is really not Alan Wake support thread.. But we really don't and can't control the resolutions in Alan Wake. We're just pushing 16:9 720p out and the Xbox360 OS handles the rest. The game doesn't even know whether you're connected with HDMI, VGA, Component, Composite and whatever rez you set your 360 to. The setup you describe is not one I've tested but if 360 games typically work on it, I'd expect Wake to work too.

Splinter Cell is fine, Alan Wake is 720 (and resolution doesn't really affect much.) As opposed too Heavy FLOP, MAG (Which most stopped caring and stopped playing) Some slew of JRPG garbage. And a racer cows have been hyping since the dawn of time. lol Back to ME2.

Hathesulacon

[QUOTE="Hathesulacon"]

Splinter Cell is fine, Alan Wake is 720 (and resolution doesn't really affect much.) As opposed too Heavy FLOP, MAG (Which most stopped caring and stopped playing) Some slew of JRPG garbage. And a racer cows have been hyping since the dawn of time. lol Back to ME2.

killzowned24

too bad it's gameplay sucks and isn't even AA on Metacritic.

[QUOTE="Hathesulacon"]

Splinter Cell is fine, Alan Wake is 720 (and resolution doesn't really affect much.) As opposed too Heavy FLOP, MAG (Which most stopped caring and stopped playing) Some slew of JRPG garbage. And a racer cows have been hyping since the dawn of time. lol Back to ME2.

killzowned24

[QUOTE="Hathesulacon"]

Splinter Cell is fine, Alan Wake is 720 (and resolution doesn't really affect much.) As opposed too Heavy FLOP, MAG (Which most stopped caring and stopped playing) Some slew of JRPG garbage. And a racer cows have been hyping since the dawn of time. lol Back to ME2.

killzowned24

[QUOTE="Hathesulacon"]

Splinter Cell is fine, Alan Wake is 720 (and resolution doesn't really affect much.) As opposed too Heavy FLOP, MAG (Which most stopped caring and stopped playing) Some slew of JRPG garbage. And a racer cows have been hyping since the dawn of time. lol Back to ME2.

killzowned24

when the graphics are that bad it's pretty easier to run at a high resolution :lol:

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="Hathesulacon"]

Splinter Cell is fine, Alan Wake is 720 (and resolution doesn't really affect much.) As opposed too Heavy FLOP, MAG (Which most stopped caring and stopped playing) Some slew of JRPG garbage. And a racer cows have been hyping since the dawn of time. lol Back to ME2.

KarateeeChop

when the graphics are that bad it's pretty easier to run at a high resolution :lol:

[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] wow, that reminds me ..even MAG with 256 players is 720p!killzowned24

when the graphics are that bad it's pretty easier to run at a high resolution :lol:

Just look at the jaggies on the railing top left corner.

lol, Mag looks fine and doesnt resort to sub hd.

killzowned24

the textures remind me of Perfect Dark Zero

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="Hathesulacon"]

Splinter Cell is fine, Alan Wake is 720 (and resolution doesn't really affect much.) As opposed too Heavy FLOP, MAG (Which most stopped caring and stopped playing) Some slew of JRPG garbage. And a racer cows have been hyping since the dawn of time. lol Back to ME2.

Ninja-Hippo

i try not to bash the ps3, but youre speaking the truth. MAG was terrible, and every ps3 owner including myself, has to admit that. On topic, Alan Wake will look fine and i dont even really like Splinter Cell anyway, so i really dont care if people call it a flop. 360 have a ton more games this year coming out than the ps3. arguing about splinter cell will look stupid at the end of the year.

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

lol, Mag looks fine and doesnt resort to sub hd.

ohthemanatee

the textures remind me of Perfect Dark Zero

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

lol, Mag looks fine and doesnt resort to sub hd.

killzowned24

the textures remind me of Perfect Dark Zero

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

the textures remind me of Perfect Dark Zero

lawlessx

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="killzowned24"] PD is sub hd game btw lol

killzowned24

Um with like 4-5 years of development

those games are years old so we can give them some slack. alan wake on the other hand is a 2010 game!!!

killzowned24

Alan Wake in sub-hd? you got any links that confirm that? because beyond3d still hasn't, if they had then they would have already added Alan Wake's resolution on the list, the reason they didn't is because you can not trust blurry pics